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Science: Black Hole has a 'Twisted Magnetic Field'

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Mar 27, 2024.

  1. chemgator

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    Our galaxy's black hole, known as the Sagittarius A-Hole, has a strong and organized magnetic field. The hole is as black as black can be, I must say. Our black hole is puny compared to the M87-hole in a nearby galaxy; M87 is 1500 times bigger, and has a massive jet of plasma coming out of it. It is suspected that our black hole has a jet coming out of it, but it is too small to be seen at this time, and it may have to wait until the new iPhone 18 comes out. Scientists are looking forward to teasing the black hole about its data plan.

    That concludes today's lesson on astrology.

    Twisted magnetic field observed around Milky Way's central black hole

     
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    In other news, the Hubble telescope has witnessed a star being born. It's not as messy as you would think. The image shows the new star with a brownish disc of matter around it known as a protoplanetary disc. The baby is being called "FS Tau B" until they can find a sober astronomer to give it a proper name.

    Hubble Telescope witnesses a new star being born in a stunning cosmic light show (image)

     
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  3. sierragator

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    Is Sagittarius a hole a new poster here?
     
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    I've been around for a while and I have yet to hear our supermassive Black Hole (at the center of the Milky Way) called "Sagittarius A-Hole." Lol...

    I have heard it called Sagittarius A-star. And... Sagittarius A.
     
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    I've been called worse
     
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  6. Trickster

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    You have to appreciate astronomers’ humor.
     
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    Sagittarius A-hole??!! Move over, Uranus!
     
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    Now I know what my next ambient electronica album is going to be called
     
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  9. Trickster

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    A black hole reminds me of water going down the drain. The water doesn't disappear. Matter can neither be created nor destroyed, just be changed in form. Which raises the question: what happens to matter which disappears into a black hole?
     
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    If come on man is any indication of that, I may hold the record.
     
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    It's way bigger than Uranus.
     
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    This is a great topic. I read a few years ago that one theory is a Planck star as matter compresses into infinity and perhaps even a “white hole”. Something about space time and how time does not act uniform… we have not observed the matter “reform” and exit.

    Astrophysics and mathematics… how improbable and special was Newton?
     
  13. Trickster

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    That gives me a headache.
     
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    I am excite.
     
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    Recently heard a scientist (on a podcast) make an argument that our entire "Observable Universe" is actually in a black hole.
    An interesting concept with some mathmatics to back it up.

    It is exciting that science is producing more and more sophisticated instruments to measure and observe the Universe.

    Regarding our solar system, and the spheres contained within, and our human origins, I find the scientific evidence overwhelming
    that supports current thinking about our being "star-stuff" and evolved from it. It's quite elegant really.

    A while back you posted a video about the origin of earth and how life sprang from it. I was familiar with that video and have watched
    it many times.

    Considering that the current (#) of galaxies, based on James Webb observations, is now 2 Trillion (Brian Cox) and in fact may indeed be
    an infinite number, it makes sense to me that our earth and everything in and on it, is the result of a GIGANTIC (Natural) chemisty experiment
    wherein stars, planets and all things, are created and destroyed, again, and again and again in infinite numbers, with no (supernatural) element to it whatsoever.

    Sooner or later, when the known and unknown elements of the periodic table are mixed together in infinite ways, you get something like ..........
    Earth. And humans. I tend to think our species is uniquely evolved and adapted to live in and on,the ecosystems of the earth, like every other
    living organism on this planet, alive now or extinct, and there are MILLIONS of examples. Humans (Hominids) having adapted to the earth
    eco-systems provided by nature over the last few million years. (Perhaps up to 10 million), based on the fossil record.

    Considering the incredible number of natural process variables making hominid life sustainable, the odds of finding an Earth 2, may be improbable
    although given the incredible number of planets out there, perhaps not impossible, given a little "terra-forming".

    The religous adherents, of course, in their endless determination to refute science and hypnotize people to their belief systems, will argue
    "Intelligent Design". This argument means nothing to me other than a desperate attempt to justify their own god, gods, or religous belief systems.
    Ignoring a literal EARTH, Solar System and Galaxy full of evidence to the contrary.

    While science cannot definitively disprove this notion, my take on it is that if that is indeed true, WOW what an intelligence that must be.
    My counter argument to that of course is that the "intelligent designer" concept in no way confirms any religous origin concept such as promulgated
    by Abrahmic or any other religons. Super Advanced (Aliens).... maybe, but supernatural Judao-Christian-Islamic earth god? Give me a break.

    Ignorance is bliss so they say, I am more interested in what science and increasingly more sophisticated instruments of measure tell us, to ascertain
    a better understanding of things.
     
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    Much easier for the intellectually lazy to say a super being snapped its fingers and suddenly everything was here 6,000 years ago.
     
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    Good post! Thanks. I have not lost sight of the fact that religion can posit what it may, but two facts are indisputable: "mankind" is an invasive species, and 99+% of all species which have ever existed on this planet are extinct.

    Which leads me to Enrico Fermi's famous question about the lack of evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life - "Where is everybody?!" There are some excellent YouTube videos trying to answer that question. Here is one.
    Why Can't We See Evidence of Alien Life?
    Sorry I don't know how to attach it.
     
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  18. Trickster

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    That's not as far fetched as you might imagine.....depending upon how you define "super being".
     
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    Thanks for starting this discussion. I've probably read 50+ books on the wider subject and am just as dumb as ever. It's our lot to want to know the ultimate answers.....and perhaps our curse to never be able to find them (though one word we shouldn't use is "never"). I know it's mine.
     
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    Humans, for millenia, have sheltered themselves from the lack of understanding of natural processes by thinking in that way.

    While regrettable, super-natural god being beliefs seem to be a peculiar, Homo Sapien, brain wiring mechanism, to cope with nature. Sadly the ego of humans further developed this psychosis to project themselves as being created in the image of, and for, the pleasure and manipulation of these "Gods" while subordinating all other life forms as chattel or "stock" to be destroyed, consumed or rendered extinct at humans pleasure, while serving these Gods.

    Science has unlocked many aspects that offer explanations to the processes of nature, but in my opinion, our species has barely scratched the surface, of that understanding, as to the true nature of the universe. Considering that the rennissance and the enlightment is barely 500 years old, we are still babes with pacifiers in our mouths when it comes to learning.

    Religous ignorance, on the other hand, clearly demonstrates how (Tribal) humans in our arrogance and hubris, shit in our own bed, treat each other with ignorant cruel barbarity, and of course, with what little technological innovation humans have discovered, use it to damn the torpedoes, and proceed at full speed ahead, toward what appears to be environmental catastrophe of a VERY SENSITIVE eco-system, and perhaps, premature extinction, not only of ourselves, but of many, and perhaps all, other species alive on this 3rd rock from the sun.
     
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