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WeWinWeEat
03-13-2013, 01:45 AM
$30 mil signing bonus. Puts him in the Larry Fitzgerald and Megatron money. It's an arms race for sure.
As a Dolphins fan, I am glad they did it. But damn. I think the Ellerbe signing will turn out to be a bigger win in the long run.
fortmyersgator
03-13-2013, 07:04 AM
They need DT's and OL's
FearNoSpear
03-13-2013, 07:56 AM
As a dolphins fan I'm not happy about it. I'd rather use that money to retain jake long and bush. Mike Wallace is a good deep threat but hasn't shown that he's an all around WR. We cut Marshall two years ago who is better. The Dolphins have become one of the worse run organizations in the NFL. It's disheartening and frustrating
NorthCaptivaGator
03-13-2013, 10:27 AM
As a dolphins fan I'm not happy about it. I'd rather use that money to retain jake long and bush. Mike Wallace is a good deep threat but hasn't shown that he's an all around WR. We cut Marshall two years ago who is better. The Dolphins have become one of the worse run organizations in the NFL. It's disheartening and frustrating
disagree, we have had Jake Long and Bush for two losing seasons, Tanneyhill is the real deal, Long's backup did fine at the end of last year and Lamar Miller is a younger Reggie Bush, I don't know much about Wallace but the Phin's need a deep threat, it will make the white guy from OSU and Best that much better, now, need a pass catching tight end and one more DB, plus some O-line depth.
tideh8rGator
03-13-2013, 12:35 PM
They need DT's and OL's
They have needed those for YEARS, and ireland cluelessly keeps drafting them when he should draft skill position players, in early rounds. And keeps whiffing on them.
For a change the Dolphins need PLAYMAKERS.
Lots of good loyal Gators are also Dolphin fans, Dolphin fans are not all scum lovers like many think in here. Quit hating on the Dolphins everybody.
mfpardnor2
03-13-2013, 12:39 PM
Been a Dolphin Fan since 1970
WeWinWeEat
03-13-2013, 12:44 PM
I think Reggie gets re-signed. No other team out there is going to pay him big money.
And now that we have our WR, I bet we take an OL with our first pick. We're not re-signing Long and "All I do is hold" Incognito has to go.
ajoseph
03-13-2013, 01:03 PM
Dolphins were absolutely desperate for a WR, both from a bona fide team need and perhaps equally important, from a PR need. The team needs the talking heads to talk them up, to speak of the team as an organization that wants to win. Because of the build-up to FA, they would have signed Wallace at virtually any price.
As for Long , I think Long was a great tackle, but he has (either in fact or at least in perception) become injury prone. The team did not have a drop-off when Martin switched sides. And, the team is not a bull-rush, down hill running club anymore. They are more finesse, and Long does not necessarily fit their plan. Still, they need quality linemen is they are going to compete. There are still a bunch of free agents out there, and the draft is filled with depth.
Bush? I would love to have him back. He makes the offense more dynamic. And, with a receiver like Wallace to truly spread the field, Bush's skill-set becomes even more dangerous. I think he will be missed more than most people think, particularly because I am far from being sold on Lamar Miller as a replacement.
For the Fins to be true contenders, however, they really need to shore up their defensive backfield. Our corners were beat time and again last year. We really need a ton of help there. And, we could really use a big, reliable TE to clear the seams and give us a target in the red zone.
Over all, the Fins have a LONG way to go (no pun intended), but it looks to me like finally they are headed in the right direction.
Sylez_G_Koolaid
03-13-2013, 01:30 PM
I think Reggie gets re-signed. No other team out there is going to pay him big money.
And now that we have our WR, I bet we take an OL with our first pick. We're not re-signing Long and "All I do is hold" Incognito has to go.
PFT reporting Bush has reached a deal with Detroit.
WeWinWeEat
03-13-2013, 02:02 PM
PFT reporting Bush has reached a deal with Detroit.
Ha. Just saw that. Too bad. Reggie was a great locker room presence.
Lamar Miller, please step up.
austin
03-13-2013, 02:17 PM
Way over paid for both, but desperate GM's will do that. $35 mil. for an inside backer, not smart,
and only 1 good year on top of that.
ArtVandelay
03-13-2013, 03:15 PM
I think this is a huge waste of money for the Dolphins...and I love it :yes:
austin
03-13-2013, 03:19 PM
Just dropped $26 mil on another LB- Phillip Wheeler- good player.... but not $26 million good.
ArtVandelay
03-13-2013, 03:39 PM
The Dolphins are the kings of thinking money will buy success and all they have is a fancy red carpet before the game. I think they are far away from being a contender.
FearNoSpear
03-13-2013, 04:10 PM
disagree, we have had Jake Long and Bush for two losing seasons, Tanneyhill is the real deal, Long's backup did fine at the end of last year and Lamar Miller is a younger Reggie Bush, I don't know much about Wallace but the Phin's need a deep threat, it will make the white guy from OSU and Best that much better, now, need a pass catching tight end and one more DB, plus some O-line depth.
Sorry but the losing seasons weren't a direct result to Long or Bush. We still don't know if Tannehill is the real deal or not although he showed flashes. We should've kept Marshall a couple years ago I stead of dropping a ton on a one dimensional WR. To me this just seems to be our routine. Lose a few good players and over sign for a couple. At best we tread water and its getting old
tommyuf21
03-13-2013, 06:54 PM
I'm as much an Ireland hater as many here, but I can't disagree with the free agency moves he has made this year to date.
Wallace (or Jennings) was absolutely essential. Once Hartline was resigned as a #2, they needed a speed guy and Wallace was by far the best available. Mission accomplished.
As for the linebackers, they have simply replaced Dansby (and Burnett soon) for two guys that are younger and cheaper. Dannell was being viewed as Ray Lewis' replacement, but keeping Flacco put the Ravens in a bind and they didn't have money to spend there. Crap happens when you win a Super Bowl.
I would have liked to have seen them keep Bush, but not 4 years, $16 million that Detroit paid. Long isn't worth the $12 million that he is seeking. For that kind of money, I'd rather have someone who can score touchdowns (like Wallace).
For those who want more lineman, that's all Ireland has brought in for the last 5 years and the last four have been losing years. Time to get players who score touchdowns and make big plays.
JohnC1908
03-13-2013, 07:47 PM
Dolphins were my team many moons ago so I still have a soft spot for them. Ireland is dropping big time change on decent players. Dolphins have no LT now, that should be priority number one come draft time.
tommyuf21
03-13-2013, 10:17 PM
Dolphins were my team many moons ago so I still have a soft spot for them. Ireland is dropping big time change on decent players. Dolphins have no LT now, that should be priority number one come draft time.
You can find good linemen without spending a lot in free agency or using the first pick in the draft.
Jake was a really good player, but not what the Dolphins needed to invest so highly in when they did it. Part of the outdated Parcells philosophy that Ireland had clung to for too long.
You can't skimp on QB's, WR's and other impact positions and be relevant. The Dolphins are living proof that way is of the past.
geauxgator1
03-13-2013, 10:39 PM
I like Wallace, but they dumped a ton of $$'s on Hartline and him. It will be interesting to see how they work out this year. They are still a long way form challenging the Pats.
JohnC1908
03-13-2013, 10:50 PM
You can find good linemen without spending a lot in free agency or using the first pick in the draft.
Jake was a really good player, but not what the Dolphins needed to invest so highly in when they did it. Part of the outdated Parcells philosophy that Ireland had clung to for too long.
You can't skimp on QB's, WR's and other impact positions and be relevant. The Dolphins are living proof that way is of the past.
With no LT though how are they going to have time to throw? If that's what the first round pick is alright, but I think you're underestimating the importance and availability of the position.
LeafUF
03-13-2013, 10:56 PM
I like Wallace, but they dumped a ton of $$'s on Hartline and him. It will be interesting to see how they work out this year. They are still a long way form challenging the Pats.
$6 mil this year got Denver Welker, NE Amendola and Miami Hartline. I think Miami is doing it wrong.
MtownGator
03-13-2013, 11:05 PM
No matter the pay --They got an SEC killer in NFL.
Wallace is a game changer if you have the O who can get the ball to him.
tideh8rGator
03-14-2013, 09:46 AM
I am not sure the Dolphins don't have their sights set on another RB like lacy. I also very much doubt lamar miller ever becomes an NFL presence. And thomas is a PROVEN bust.
As much as I don't want ANY of satan's guys, lacy would be a nice addition.
I am concerned that ireland is setting up to go for milliner with the Dolphins' 1st round pick, I think the guy is a product of satan hype.
JohnC1908
03-14-2013, 09:51 AM
^Milliner would really have to plummet to be there at 13.
tilly
03-14-2013, 10:51 AM
The Dolphins are the kings of thinking money will buy success and all they have is a fancy red carpet before the game. I think they are far away from being a contender.
They are two missed FGs from making the playoffs last year...
They had 3 TDs from the receiving corps.
These are strong moves. They are no longer the team FAs say "no" to. I think they are a playoff team...who STILL even after this week has a lot of cap space.
tommyuf21
03-14-2013, 06:54 PM
With no LT though how are they going to have time to throw? If that's what the first round pick is alright, but I think you're underestimating the importance and availability of the position.
Long has been in decline over the last two seasons. Even when healthy last season, he was getting run over. He gave up a lot of sacks last year for someone who is supposed to be elite. I think its safe to say that Pouncey is the best lineman on that team and even Incognito performed better than Jake.
I'm pretty certain that Ireland can find someone competent to play LT for less than $12 million/season, which is what Jake wants. I've read that $8 million and a nice long term deal (which has incentives in it) is on the table to keep Jake.
I agree that you need solid, consistent play out of that position, but you can't throw that much money at someone that you may not be able to count on anymore. It seems sad to say that because Long is only 27. However, injuries seem to be catching up to him. Long had three really good years, but the NFL is what have you done for me lately...
Swampmaster
03-14-2013, 07:48 PM
another overpaid "big name" player that will do nothing to help miami--reggie bush part 2. The dolphins never learn.
tommyuf21
03-14-2013, 08:01 PM
another overpaid "big name" player that will do nothing to help miami--reggie bush part 2. The dolphins never learn.
I disagree. Miami isn't going to the Super Bowl anytime soon, probably no playoffs for at least another year or two, but they will never be able to find out if Tannehill is the guy unless he has someone to throw to. Miami's wide receivers caught a grand total of 1 (one) touchdown last year. Whether or not Wallace is over paid is not the issue, the need for a playmaker is paramount.
At some point, the wallet has to open and someone has to take a chance. Reggie Bush was not taking a chance. He was traded for a linebacker (Jonathan Amaya) and didn't make a huge salary in Miami. You can say that Bush resurrected his career in Miami, after becoming an afterthought in New Orleans.
Sitting on your butt and drafting acorns is going to get Ireland a trip to the unemployment line. He probably should already be there, but at this point, he has to swing for the fence and try to hit a couple of home runs.
tilly
03-14-2013, 11:51 PM
another overpaid "big name" player that will do nothing to help miami--reggie bush part 2. The dolphins never learn.
How did Reggie Bush not help? He had arguably the two best seaons of his career in Miami.
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tommyuf21
03-15-2013, 01:05 AM
How did Reggie Bush not help? He had arguably the two best seaons of his career in Miami.
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You can make a good argument that the lack of weapons kept Reggie from being as effective as he could have been.
With a gamebreaking receiver last season, Miami wins at least two more games and is in the playoff picture.
tilly
03-15-2013, 12:02 PM
You can make a good argument that the lack of weapons kept Reggie from being as effective as he could have been.
With a gamebreaking receiver last season, Miami wins at least two more games and is in the playoff picture.
Exactly. Reggie will play the roll in Detroit with megatron that he could have played in Miami with a deep threat.
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