Breaking News: Three Ohio State Players named in rape investigation

[TheGator]

http://m.abc6onyourside.com/news/OSU_Football_Players_Linked_to_Alleged_Rape_Case?m obileredirect=true


The alleged victim reported the incident to police In November.

She says It happened after a party in October.

She tells police she and two friends met three football players and she went back to their room with one of them.

She said they were "fooling around" in his bed when a second player started touching her.

She said she didn't want to do that so she went into the bathroom.

There she told police, the second player forced her to have oral sex.

In the search warrant, police say the first player told them said the girl came back to his room with him, and he got into his bed.

He said she jumped on top of him and started kissing him.

After a while, he decided didn't want to do that because he had a girlfriend back home.

No one from OSU would talk today saying its an ongoing investigation ABC 6 / FOX 28 has learned that one, of the three players, left the team last week.

No one from the university will confirm that it's a result of this incident.

[Tebowism0823]

The sad thing is this happens all the time and gies unreported.

[GatorPrincess8]

sad

[luciaboy]

no topic on espn yet. they won't go after urban like they did when he was at uf. he is after all one of them now

[GT Gator]

no topic on espn yet. they won't go after urban like they did when he was at uf. he is after all one of them now

Sorry, but that's ridiculous. If he has as many arrests at OSU as he had at UF, the press will be relentless.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

no topic on espn yet. they won't go after urban like they did when he was at uf. he is after all one of them now

It literally just broke holy cow you guys are quick to hunt for a conspiracy.

[32250Gator]

The article says nothing about them being charged, only that their names were in a search warrant. No real story for ESPN to run unless charges are filed.

[Tebowism0823]

It literally just broke holy cow you guys are quick to hunt for a conspiracy.

I think it's a fair assessment to believe they won't go as hard at UM now as they did in the past. Like stated, he was one of them.

[99gator]

Sorry, but that's ridiculous. If he has as many arrests at OSU as he had at UF, the press will be relentless.

i'd give this a little more time.

however, we had **** like people throwing cups at a sandwich shop.

this is rape.

[gator85jd]

no topic on espn yet. they won't go after urban like they did when he was at uf. he is after all one of them now

Don't bring up urban. The urban worshipers will be all over you if you do.

[adamgator96]

I think it's a fair assessment to believe they won't go as hard at UM now as they did in the past. Like stated, he was one of them.

In the wake of the Penn State scandal, I doubt things will be business as usual. Either way, with so many news outlets these days, ESPN would be foolish to choose to be late to a sports story.

[Tebowism0823]

In the wake of the Penn State scandal, I doubt things will be business as usual. Either way, with so many news outlets these days, ESPN would be foolish to choose to be late to a sports story.

This is espn we are talking about

[TheGator]

Now the news station has pulled the story. Something stinks here

http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2013/3/12/4096924/abc6-pulls-ohio-state-alleged-rape-report-from-website

[atlantagator86]

Maybe I misunderstand the storyline, but something doesn't add up.

She tells police she and two friends met three football players and she went back to their room with one of them.

She said they were "fooling around" in his bed when a second player started touching her.

Okay, so exactly how many people are in this room while she's "fooling around" with this one guy????

She said she didn't want to do that so she went into the bathroom.

There she told police, the second player forced her to have oral sex.

So where was the guy she was with while this is going on? She goes to the bathroom followed by this other guy and he does nothing?!?!

In the search warrant, police say the first player told them said the girl came back to his room with him, and he got into his bed.

He said she jumped on top of him and started kissing him.

After a while, he decided didn't want to do that because he had a girlfriend back home.

So after being raped and forced to give oral sex, this girl is so distraught that she ... goes back and tries to jump the guy's bones who she started with?!?!?! Yeah, that seems like the logical reaction of a girl who's been raped.

And then this guy suddenly decides to stop her because he has a girlfriend.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a rape didn't happen and if it did, these guys should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. But there are a lot of things about this story, on both sides, that just makes no sense.

[Speedofsand]

Se'Von Pittman left the team last week. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21823931/ohio-state-defensive-end-sevon-pittman-to-transfer Ohio State would not confirm the reason for Pittman's desire to be released, though the Dispatch reports it has something to do with an "off-the-field issue" and Pittman is "looking for a fresh start."
The others allegedly named are Kyle Dodson, OL from Cleveland, and either a recruit Shelton Gibson (also from Cleve Heights) who signed with W.Va., or Meyer's inner circle member and church buddy Noah Spence.

[STR8OUTDASWAMP1]

Don't bring up urban. The urban worshipers will be all over you if you do.

I'll insert my obligatory FVCK Urban Liar here.

[gatorr4life]

I'll insert my obligatory FVCK Urban Liar here.

And I'll insert "he did bring us two titles, couple of SEC championships and a hiesman winning qb. And a million all Americans, as well". Oh, and he upgraded the facilities and added some more tradition. Shall I go on? Ok, one more... HE OWNED OUR RIVALS.

[dadx4]

This story doesn't sound right at all. Is forced oral sex considered rape? I honestly don't know. Sexual assault yes, but rape, I don't know.

[DuPontGator]

Urbs keeping it consistent lol

[GatorJeff]

I read on the Ohio State board that the guys involved were Se'von Pittman (who was a 2012 Rivals 100 signee that Urban "flipped"), Kyle Dodson, and David Dawson, who was in town on a recruiting trip. I know the Gators also recruited Dawson at some point last fall. Dodson was also "flipped" to Ohio State by Urban after having commited elsewhere. Dodson was a US Army All-American offensive tackle (signed with OSU in 2012) who had offers from dozens of schools. Dawson ended up signing with Michigan last month.

[DuPontGator]

And I'll insert "he did bring us two titles, couple of SEC championships and a hiesman winning qb. And a million all Americans, as well". Oh, and he upgraded the facilities and added some more tradition. Shall I go on? Ok, one more... HE OWNED OUR RIVALS.

He still sucks...

[SkyChimp]

Here's an updated link to the story.

OHIO STATE FOOTBALL PLAYERS NAMED IN SEARCH WARRANT REGARDING RAPE (http://www.thelantern.com/sports/3-ohio-state-football-players-named-in-search-warrant-regarding-alleged-rape-1.3008690#.UUBNzTfNinl)

[LakeGator]

Here's an updated link to the story.

OHIO STATE FOOTBALL PLAYERS CHARGED WITH RAPE (http://www.thelantern.com/sports/3-ohio-state-football-players-named-in-search-warrant-regarding-alleged-rape-1.3008690#.UUBNzTfNinl)

The article title is 3 Ohio State football players named in search warrant regarding alleged rape and there is no indication that anyone has been charged with anything at this point.

[GCNumber7]

Yeah I don't know about all this. Fishy story.

[HudsonGator]

Sounds like the Texas story that broke at the end of last year.

The charges were ultimately dismissed. (http://www.burntorangenation.com/football/2013/1/23/3908706/case-mccoy-jordan-hicks-sexual-assault-investigation-case-is-closed-no-charges)

[AgingGator]

Just more "1% of the 1%" behavior by Urban's players.

[G8RNTN]

And I'll insert "he did bring us two titles, couple of SEC championships and a hiesman winning qb. And a million all Americans, as well". Oh, and he upgraded the facilities and added some more tradition. Shall I go on? Ok, one more... HE OWNED OUR RIVALS.

Does Shelley Meyer have anything to worry about??? :joecool:

[orangeblueorangeblue]

The article title is 3 Ohio State football players named in search warrant regarding alleged rape and there is no indication that anyone has been charged with anything at this point.

Sometimes the urge to knock Urban Meyer outweighs the urge to look at things, read and comprehend them and then respond accordingly.

See:

Just more "1% of the 1%" behavior by Urban's players.

[DuPontGator]

Sometimes the urge to knock Urban Meyer outweighs the urge to look at things, read and comprehend them and then respond accordingly.

See:



Can't.... Fight the urge.

[GatorLaw]

Maybe I misunderstand the storyline, but something doesn't add up.



Okay, so exactly how many people are in this room while she's "fooling around" with this one guy????



So where was the guy she was with while this is going on? She goes to the bathroom followed by this other guy and he does nothing?!?!



So after being raped and forced to give oral sex, this girl is so distraught that she ... goes back and tries to jump the guy's bones who she started with?!?!?! Yeah, that seems like the logical reaction of a girl who's been raped.

And then this guy suddenly decides to stop her because he has a girlfriend.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a rape didn't happen and if it did, these guys should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. But there are a lot of things about this story, on both sides, that just makes no sense.

It's not clear exactly where the information in the story came from. The story talked about what the girl "said" (to who? when?) and also talked about what was in a search warrant. My guess is that it all came from the search warrant but regardless, it's not an indictment or information or something similar that one would expect to be clearer and provide more detail as to what allegedly happene. So it's no surprise that there are a lot of things about this story that make no sense.

[nawlinsgator]

Maybe I misunderstand the storyline, but something doesn't add up.



Okay, so exactly how many people are in this room while she's "fooling around" with this one guy????



So where was the guy she was with while this is going on? She goes to the bathroom followed by this other guy and he does nothing?!?!



So after being raped and forced to give oral sex, this girl is so distraught that she ... goes back and tries to jump the guy's bones who she started with?!?!?! Yeah, that seems like the logical reaction of a girl who's been raped.

And then this guy suddenly decides to stop her because he has a girlfriend.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a rape didn't happen and if it did, these guys should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. But there are a lot of things about this story, on both sides, that just makes no sense.

Who knows what happened, but you read the original post wrong. She didn't jump the guys bones AFTER the oral sex thing. He was retelling it from his POV.

[grant1]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

[orangeblueorangeblue]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

I assume if you're in a situation wherein you're being forced to engage in some sexual behavior, biting a penis might not necessarily be the wisest move.

[atlantagator86]

Who knows what happened, but you read the original post wrong. She didn't jump the guys bones AFTER the oral sex thing. He was retelling it from his POV.

Okay. That makes more sense.

[JohnC1908]

Kind of silly to say what you would do if you were being raped. Especially if you're a girl surrounded by 3 Division 1 athletes.

[tilly]

To those saying ESPN goes "easy" on "their own"...

....Bobby Valentine says hello.

[ThePlayer]

Just more "1% of the 1%" behavior by Urban's players.

This will help him more than you know. :joecool:

[AgingGator]

Call it an "urge to knock Urban Meyer" if you want (it is, I admit).

But seriously, does anyone here not expect to more frequent disciplinary problems at OSU?

[born2beagator]

To those saying ESPN goes "easy" on "their own"...

....Bobby Valentine says hello.

well that is because he messed up on of their favorite teams.

[lurkingator1]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

:crazy:

[StrangeGator]

This story doesn't sound right at all. Is forced oral sex considered rape? I honestly don't know. Sexual assault yes, but rape, I don't know.

I don't know. How about one of us tries it and then we see what happens.

Seriously, I think it will fall under the state's sodomy statutes. Reminds me of a funny story from art school years. A girl I knew was complaining because she had to wake up in the middle of the night to bail her husband out of jail. He told her he was arrested for DUI. When she went to post bail, it was much higher than a DUI should have been. The clerk then showed her the arrest report; DUI, reckless driving, driving without headlights and sodomy, all at the same time. Apparently he had picked up a girl at a strip club and was driving along while she was busy in his lap. Oral sex is considered sodomy in Georgia and most other states.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Call it an "urge to knock Urban Meyer" if you want (it is, I admit).

But seriously, does anyone here not expect to more frequent disciplinary problems at OSU?

This stuff is largely arbitrary. Athletes tend to commit crimes, push the limits of discipline, etc. We could be next. Or it could be Alabama. Or Michigan. Or USC. There isn't a coach on earth that can prevent it, assuming he's recruiting top-notch talent.

[nawlinsgator]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

Seems like it would work in the movies huh? If she did this in real life, she would probably get the beating of her life.

[your_perfect_enemy]

This stuff is largely arbitrary. Athletes tend to commit crimes, push the limits of discipline, etc. We could be next. Or it could be Alabama. Or Michigan. Or USC. There isn't a coach on earth that can prevent it, assuming he's recruiting top-notch talent.

could be next? Hasn't it already been "our turn" for like 10 years now (discipline wasn't zooks forte either so this isn't meant to be a knock on urbs)?

[DuPontGator]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

No teeth?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

could be next? Hasn't it already been "our turn" for like 10 years now (discipline wasn't zooks forte either so this isn't meant to be a knock on urbs)?

Well I meant next, but sure.

Sometimes you hit a rough patch, there's nothing a coach can do to 100% prevent this; all he can do is respond to it in a fair way.

[gatorr4life]

He still sucks...

So much so that you're willing to trade all of the aforementioned accomplishments? Ill await your response....:laugh:

[gatorsfan530]

I'll insert my obligatory FVCK Urban Liar here.

I'll insert my obligatory "you're a moron" here

[DuPontGator]

So much so that you're willing to trade all of the aforementioned accomplishments? Ill await your response....:laugh:

I'm thinking right before I trade all the wonderful things urbs has done for the program.

[your_perfect_enemy]

Well I meant next, but sure.

Sometimes you hit a rough patch, there's nothing a coach can do to 100% prevent this; all he can do is respond to it in a fair way.

I worded that terribly. I meant it seems like the cycle has been stuck on us for the past 10 years and its time for someone else's turn.

[UFish]

She's forced to give oral sex and does not bite?? Something wrong with that story. I'm usually on the side of the girl, but that doesn't add up. It's already in her mouth, just start chewing!

Interesting choice of words.

[gatorr4life]

I'm thinking right before I trade all the wonderful things urbs has done for the program.

Sure.

[socraticsilence]

I'm thinking right before I trade all the wonderful things urbs has done for the program.

Remember to take down Tim's statue when you ship the 2 BCS trophies back.

[SkyChimp]

The article title is 3 Ohio State football players named in search warrant regarding alleged rape and there is no indication that anyone has been charged with anything at this point.

Apologies... It was early yesterday morning. I made the correction

[DuPontGator]

Remember to take down Tim's statue when you ship the 2 BCS trophies back.

Lol... The urb fanboy to the rescue.

[Billygator76]

I thought I heard on a news radio story yesterday that the girl was 16 years old; statutory rape if something really happened; 3 college guys and a 16 year old. Something also about a huge crowd in Stubenville, OH, must be her home town; I predict this is going to get interesting. Of course the girl could be a slut sexually active since age 13, but, glad it's in OH instead of G'ville. Karma for Urb.

[your_perfect_enemy]

I thought I heard on a news radio story yesterday that the girl was 16 years old; statutory rape if something really happened; 3 college guys and a 16 year old. Something also about a huge crowd in Stubenville, OH, must be her home town; I predict this is going to get interesting. Of course the girl could be a slut sexually active since age 13, but, glad it's in OH instead of G'ville. Karma for Urb.

I think you're mixing cases. The one in stubenville was a few hs players that raped a 16 yo girl too drunk to consent after a game and has apparently divided the town.

[4everaGator]

I have always liked Welker. I am sorry that he is playing for horsey face and with Peyton now, that's got to suck!

As far as filling the void in the slot, nobody mentioning Jeff Demps. Dude could fill those shoes eventually. Not if he keeps returning to track and holds his weight at 175. If he ever makes the decision to bulk up and play football only, I think he could produce some serious yardage in the Pats' system.

[antny]

I have always liked Welker. I am sorry that he is playing for horsey face and with Peyton now, that's got to suck!

As far as filling the void in the slot, nobody mentioning Jeff Demps. Dude could fill those shoes eventually. Not if he keeps returning to track and holds his weight at 175. If he ever makes the decision to bulk up and play football only, I think he could produce some serious yardage in the Pats' system.

Ummm.......

[GatorAvatar]

Urban always got rid of players who abused women. This case doesn't sound like rape. What does she mean "they were fooling around"?

[HudsonGator]

Urban always got rid of players who abused women.


Chris Rainey just sent you a text.

[HayGator]

I have always liked Welker. I am sorry that he is playing for horsey face and with Peyton now, that's got to suck!

As far as filling the void in the slot, nobody mentioning Jeff Demps. Dude could fill those shoes eventually. Not if he keeps returning to track and holds his weight at 175. If he ever makes the decision to bulk up and play football only, I think he could produce some serious yardage in the Pats' system.

I know you said filling the void in the slot but you are in the wrong thread.

[Colin]

Let it go, people. We have a better coach now. All that matters.

[socraticsilence]

Urban always got rid of players who abused women. This case doesn't sound like rape. What does she mean "they were fooling around"?

Violence against Women was basically the one zero tolerance violation Urban had with the exception of Rainey- (with Chris I still argue him receiving a concussion less than 24 hours prior to the text messages is a factor that people shouldn't ignore).

[DuPontGator]

I have always liked Welker. I am sorry that he is playing for horsey face and with Peyton now, that's got to suck!

As far as filling the void in the slot, nobody mentioning Jeff Demps. Dude could fill those shoes eventually. Not if he keeps returning to track and holds his weight at 175. If he ever makes the decision to bulk up and play football only, I think he could produce some serious yardage in the Pats' system.

Lol!

[nawlinsgator]

I think you're mixing cases. The one in stubenville was a few hs players that raped a 16 yo girl too drunk to consent after a game and has apparently divided the town.

This one's even more interesting. How is the town divided?

[nawlinsgator]

Urban always got rid of players who abused women. This case doesn't sound like rape. What does she mean "they were fooling around"?

Well, the guy who allegedly forced oral sex was not the same guy she was fooling around with.

I guess these modern times require new guidelines. If a girl is fooling around with a guy in a room while other guys are in there, is it an open invitation for the other guys to participate? They should make a "For Dummies" guide for group sex.

[candymanfromgc]

I smell vacation time with the family is really needed. Oh the stress.

[red4512]

Wheres Nexium. The spasms are starting.

Just the first of many such headlines for THE LIAR.

[your_perfect_enemy]

This one's even more interesting. How is the town divided?

I haven't really read too much about it outside of headlines. it's one of those football crazed ohio towns (because there's nothing else to do in that state) so the only thing I can think of is a portion of them are backing the football players under the 'boys will be boys' theory.

[Go2gtr]

This stuff is largely arbitrary. Athletes tend to commit crimes, push the limits of discipline, etc. We could be next. Or it could be Alabama. Or Michigan. Or USC. There isn't a coach on earth that can prevent it, assuming he's recruiting top-notch talent.I don't think you can take the coach's role out of the mix. We had incidents but were not plagued by criminal activity under SOS and we had plenty of NFL talent on campus. Saban has had very little of it, considering the top level talent he has on campus. Urban Meyer had an epidemic of arrests, it seemed he had no control over it.

The leader has to have control and exert his influence over the behavior of these kids and it starts with the recruiting process.