Orange and Blue Spring Football Debut - 1:00 P.M. Saturday, April 6th. SUN TV & FCS

[RayGator]

Saturday, April 6, 2013

1:00 P.M. from Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville FL 32604

The Orange and Blue Spring Football Debut

SUN Sports TV in Florida and FOX College Sports, National Coverage

SUN TV Crew: Larry Vettel (play-by-play), Nat Moore (analyst), Brady Ackerman (sideline).

Gator Roster
http://www.gatorzone.com/football/bios.php

Free Online Web Stream Outside Florida
www.FOXSportsFlorida.com
With Eric Esteban

Twitter @SunSportsFOXFL

Schedule of Events

9:00 A.M. Gator Locker Room Yard Sale (Outside Gate 9)

10:00 A.M. Fan Fest In North End Zone Lawn

10:30 A.M. Gator Walk

11:30 A.M. Gates Open to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium

11:30 A.M. Warm-Ups Begin On The Field

12:30 P.M. Alumni Flag Football Game

1:00 P.M. Orange and Blue Debut

Replay Schedule

Sunday, April 7th.
10:00 A.M. SUN Sports TV. "Breakfast with the Gators."

Ticket Information:

Free Admission Now For Everyone!

IMPORTANT: If You Plan On Going To The "Debut" This Saturday, Please Read The Following Link With New Info I Just Received From Gator Boosters. Due To Several Injuries Coach Muschamp Is Making Changes In The Usual Format Of The Spring Game. The Debut Is Now Free. If You Already Purchased Tickets, Info Is Provided For Refunds.

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25408

www.gatorboosters.org

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25087

www.foxsportsflorida.com

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25145

On Twitter
#OBDebut @GatorZoneFB @GatorZoneNews

and

www.GatorZone.com

www.GatorBoosters.org

2013 Florida Gators Football Schedule
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=253838
http://www.gatorzone.com/schedule.php?sport=footb&year=2013

Den
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=259591

[RayGator]

2013 Open Springs Practice Dates

Tuesday, March 12th. 10:30 A.M. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Pro Scout Day.
Former Gator Players workout for NFL Coaches and Scouts.
Enter at Gates 2, 6, 15, 18.

Friday, March 15th. 4:35 P.M. - 6:35 P.M. Sanders Football Practice Fields.

Saturday, March 16th. 1:05 P.M. - 3:00 P.M. Sanders Football Practice Fields.

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25087

Gators Spring Preview

Quarterbacks and Running Backs
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25189

Receivers and Tight Ends
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25204

Offensive Line
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25180

Defensive Line
http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25138

[daytonag8r]

i noticed the title said orange and blue FOOTBALL GAME and not debut . is there a chance that there will be an actual game instead of a glorified practice ? spurriers version was fun and worth the 4 hour r/t .

[gatorbogey]

Big NCAA Gymnastics regionals match in the o'dome that day at 6:00 pm. stay and watch that one!

also, softball hosts mississippi state at 3 pm - check out the action after the O&B Debut. UAA should run shuttles to that event.

must be the 'miss state weekend' or something as baseball travels to starkville to play the 'dogs.

also, on sunday, if you're coming into town and staying the overnight - or live in town - mens and women's tennis take on miss state. action starts at 10 am. more softball at noon.

and saturday there's a lacrosse match at noon. if the UAA was smart they'd move that start time to, like, 10 am : what better way to 'tailgate' than watching gator lacrosse! then run shuttles to BHG for the O&B game.

[bzak24]

You can go to gymnastics, softball, tennis.... Or watch the gators in the Final Four that day. I know what I will choose!!

[gatorbogey]

good point!
30k-55k will attend the O&B game. if the gators are in the final four, i'm hoping half of those #'s are in atlanta!
then for those staying in g'ville, just need 8k for the gymnastics (would be competing w/ the gator's game if we're the later game)
and 1.5k easily can attend the softball w/out issue. so if you're not in atlanta, there's alot of other gator sports to support & follow for that weekend!

[Jaggator]

I see Ray's on top of his game as usual. He leaves no stone unturned with all those links. Thanks for being early. :wave: You da man! Some rep sent your way.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTM6gihzZ8auEjvzRkWha8-tz9Xzu9NoEussVskwA4qhtsVm_ia

[jcp]

What? No night game?

The networks are screwing with us again.

[RayGator]

I received the following email from the UF Alumni Association:

UF Alumni Association

Tailgate with the UF Alumni Association before the Orange and Blue Game

Saturday, April 6, 2013
10:00 A.M. - 1:00 P.M.

Emerson Alumni Hall
1938 West University Avenue
Gainesville, FL 32603

All Gators are welcome! Admission is Free!

BBQ Food Tickets: $10.00 Pre-Sale; $12.00 Game Day;
Kids 12 and under eat Free!

www.ufalumni.ufl.edu

[MtownGator]

Bout time I'm in need of some football.

Orange N Blue

[socraticsilence]

Passing game will tell us how far we go this season- is this a Gator Bowl team or will we challenge for a game in Atlanta.

[gatorbait1]

Passing game will tell us how far we go this season- is this a Gator Bowl team or will we challenge for a game in Atlanta.

That's not a fair judgment since we have the best corners on college....

[socraticsilence]

That's not a fair judgment since we have the best corners on college....

It's more how the passing game looks- is Jeff throwing to moving targets, can he even come close to hitting the deep ball.

[gatorbait1]

It's more how the passing game looks- is Jeff throwing to moving targets, can he even come close to hitting the deep ball.

I sure hope so man.

[ValdostaGatorFan]

When do people start entering the stadium? Every time I've went, I've showed up kinda late. I'd like to get a seat at the top of the stadium in the shade, or closer to the field.

[RayGator]

I think it's 90 minutes. Not sure if it's as early as 2 hours. If I hear anything from UF, or if maybe someone else knows, we'll post it here.

[ValdostaGatorFan]

Thanks!

[LanceT]

Gatorzone or the like streaming this online??

[gatormonk]

This doesn't sound good for the game:

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20130326/ARTICLES/130329655?tc=cr

Florida has been so depleted by them that it now appears unlikely the Gators will be able to play a traditional game for the Orange & Blue Debut on April 6. The spring game could turn out to be more like another practice.

[GatorLaw]

It's more how the passing game looks- is Jeff throwing to moving targets, can he even come close to hitting the deep ball.

I agree about the moving targets, it would be nice to see more YACs. But not with the deep ball.

He threw a number of long passes that were just barely out of the receiver's reach. And I seem to remember a couple that were dropped or at least that should have been caught. Going from memory, which is always risky with my memory, but I don't think he's that far away from being good with the long passes.

[AFCyberGator]

Do Florida Gator athletes get injured more than athletes in other programs, or are just more open about it? I am craving Gator football so bad now that I will watch a glorified scrimmage, but I am curious if we have worse luck than other teams (see Ronald Powell's injury in last year's O&B Debut) or if this is somewhat normal.

[RayGator]

To tell the truth, I don't know. Maybe someone else does.

[Dreamliner]

While they are still in a minority, there are strength coaches who argue that weight-lifting, which is meant to protect athletes from injury, actually predisposes athletes to injury.

Of course this doesn't explain why one program would be especially injury prone.

[RayGator]

I read somewhere recently that the 45 degree leg press causes the most injuries of gym machines and at the same time causes very little, if any, benefit.

[SkyChimp]

I'm trying to decide if I want to drive it to see it as a practice if it's going to be broadcasted anyway in FL. Any recent updates after what Muschump said last week?

[gator1986]

It's more how the passing game looks- is Jeff throwing to moving targets, can he even come close to hitting the deep ball.

Jeff has actually hit the deep ball a few times its either been negated or someone just didn't catch it

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I read somewhere recently that the 45 degree leg press causes the most injuries of gym machines and at the same time causes very little, if any, benefit.

I can't see that. There's definitely hypertrophy benefit to the leg press. If it causes more injuries it's probably because it's one of those exercises that guys just love to throw plates on. I've seen tons of guys do 1/8th reps on those with 1200 lbs.

As for the game, I'll be going but not expecting anything beyond a practice. I don't think we'll be able to glean anything from the O&B game beyond "oh that guy got bigger" or "looks like that player lost some weight."

[Dreamliner]

They always 'look bigger' in the Spring. if they really were bigger each year the average player on the roster would go 300.

[The_Graygator]

I won't be making it this year.

Gotta work cause it looks to be raining several days this week and I'll have to make up some of that work on Saturday. Plus, I had to spend for new home PC because the lightning fried my old one last week.

I was even going to pursue getting a group together to fly a plane with a score banner over FSU's spring game, but I can't afford that one now either. Btw, if anyone is interested in organizing that, I think I have someone who can do it. Just PM me and let me know. :wink:

[gatorbait1]

I won't be making it this year.

Gotta work cause it looks to be raining several days this week and I'll have to make up some of that work on Saturday. Plus, I had to spend for new home PC because the lightning fried my old one last week.

I was even going to pursue getting a group together to fly a plane with a score banner over FSU's spring game, but I can't afford that one now either. Btw, if anyone is interested in organizing that, I think I have someone who can do it. Just PM me and let me know. :wink:

Lol that's awesome!

[RayGator]

And what would that plane banner say?

[Jaggator]

Gators Rule
37-26

[Swamp_of_Gators]

Gators Rule
37-26

"7 of the last 9" at the bottom for an extra jab.

[GatorNation850]

This will be my first spring game in 8 years straight that I will miss, really bummed but work comes first ugh

[The_Graygator]

And what would that plane banner say?

Similar to what FSU's did during the 2011 UF Spring Game: 37 - 26 GO GATORS! :wink:

I did some checking with the groups in Tally and they all refused to do it. One guy said there were actually laws about flying over Doak Campbell with banners. I didn't believe that for a sec.

I was given a contact link by a friend to someone out of town who might do it though.

[AFCyberGator]

Similar to what FSU's did during the 2011 UF Spring Game: 37 - 26 GO GATORS! :wink:

I did some checking with the groups in Tally and they all refused to do it. One guy said there were actually laws about flying over Doak Campbell with banners. I didn't believe that for a sec.

I was given a contact link by a friend to someone out of town who might do it though.

It is remotely possible that Doak Campbell lies within restricted airspace due to its proximity and orientation to the airport. I would have to check the flight maps. It is also very easy to accidentally cross into Eglin Air Force Base's restricted airspace from Tallahassee. At first glance, Ben Hill Griffin looks as if it would be easier to avoid restricted airspace from the airport.

Then again, it is possible that someone is lying. I just basing this on what I know of flight paths and R-coded airspace.

[PSGator66]

That is actually a good deal Ray! Thanks for sharing.

[GatorDeputy13]

I read where this will be more like a practice due to the injuries to the O-line. Coach said it wouldn't be fair to ask 6 linemen to have all those snaps. There will be some 11 on 11 drills.

Below is the posted schedule.

Saturday, April 6, 2013

Schedule of Events

9:00 a.m. – Gator Locker Room Yard Sale (outside Gate 9)

10:00 a.m. – Verizon Fan Fest in North End Zone Lawn

10:30 a.m. – Gator Walk

11:30 a.m. – Gates Open to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium

11:30 a.m. – Warm-ups begin on the field

12:30 p.m. – Alumni Flag Football Game

1:00 p.m. – Orange & Blue Debut

Anyone know what is sold at the Locker Room Yard sale?

Dep

[FearNoSpear]

I read where this will be more like a practice due to the injuries to the O-line. Coach said it wouldn't be fair to ask 6 linemen to have all those snaps. There will be some 11 on 11 drills.

Below is the posted schedule.

Saturday, April 6, 2013

Schedule of Events

9:00 a.m. – Gator Locker Room Yard Sale (outside Gate 9)

10:00 a.m. – Verizon Fan Fest in North End Zone Lawn

10:30 a.m. – Gator Walk

11:30 a.m. – Gates Open to Ben Hill Griffin Stadium

11:30 a.m. – Warm-ups begin on the field

12:30 p.m. – Alumni Flag Football Game

1:00 p.m. – Orange & Blue Debut

Anyone know what is sold at the Locker Room Yard sale?

Dep

Practice jerseys practice pants as well as clearance items from the gator sports shop. Miscellaneous stuff

[Jaggator]

"7 of the last 9" at the bottom for an extra jab.




:yes: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/images/icons/icon14.gif

[ces1948]

Certainly not worth it to me. Four hour drive each way. Have fun!

[g8r925]

So is it still going to be televised on Saturday?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Gators coach Will Muschamp likes his team’s offensive line heading into his third season, he just would like for more of them to be healthy.

Muschamp announced Tuesday that due to a lack of healthy offensive linemen, he is altering the format of Saturday’s Orange & Blue Debut spring game. Instead of a full scrimmage, the game will be an open practice that will include situational scrimmage snaps between individual and team position drills the Gators perform regularly at practice.

I think it's only been televised once on Saturday and that was the time it was on ESPN.

[RayGator]

IMPORTANT INFO!

For those that may be planning to go to the Orange and Blue "Debut" this weekend, or for anyone interested, I received an email from Gator Boosters today about several changes Coach Muschamp is making in the Format of the event this year. There are players with injuries. Also it is now FREE for everyone.

Please read this link for the info I received from Gator Boosters:

http://www.gatorzone.com/story.php?id=25408

Also, please read the OP of this thread for changes and additions we made to it.

Thanks, and Go Gators!

[G8R92]

Do Florida Gator athletes get injured more than athletes in other programs, or are just more open about it? I am craving Gator football so bad now that I will watch a glorified scrimmage, but I am curious if we have worse luck than other teams (see Ronald Powell's injury in last year's O&B Debut) or if this is somewhat normal.

I'm pretty sure Spurrier had to change the O&B spring game format to 7 on 7 one year due to injuries on the O-Line.

[AFCyberGator]

I'm pretty sure Spurrier had to change the O&B spring game format to 7 on 7 one year due to injuries on the O-Line.

I do remember that back in 2000. The Gators did well that year. Good call. Then again I also remember in 1993 when Spurrier went crazy because the receivers were dropping all the passes from Dean and Wuerffel. Another 10-win season. I hate that we lost to FSU both years, and to Miami in 2000.

[RayGator]

I hate losing to anyone.

[supagator]

Still can't believe their isn't a home baseball game planned this weekend!

[RayGator]

When do people start entering the stadium? Every time I've went, I've showed up kinda late. I'd like to get a seat at the top of the stadium in the shade, or closer to the field.

11:30 A.M.

[RayGator]

We have always had very good turnouts in the past but with the changes due to some injuries
modifying the Spring game to a practice type format, I think it may be a little down tomorrow. We shall see.

[Jaggator]

UF is expected to host more than a dozen 2014 recruits. This is why I was hoping for a large turnout but probably not now due to the fact that it was changed to be a scrimmage instead of a game.

[RayGator]

Will Jag be there?

[GATORAZ]

UF is expected to host more than a dozen 2014 recruits. This is why I was hoping for a large turnout but probably not now due to the fact that it was changed to be a scrimmage instead of a game.

the amount of fans at the game spring game wont have a big impact on the recruits

[RayGator]

the amount of fans at the game spring game wont have a big impact on the recruits

Will you be there?

[supagator]

We have always had very good turnouts in the past but with the changes due to some injuries
modifying the Spring game to a practice type format, I think it may be a little down tomorrow. We shall see.

I agree! It's hard for some of us to drive 3-4 hours one way to watch a practice with gas costa $3.75 a gallon.

[Speedofsand]

Give 'em hell, coach!

http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Florida_Gators_Will_Muschamp_2012-300x237.jpg

[UTGator]

Does anyone know if there will be a live stream online somewhere?

[AFCyberGator]

Does anyone know if there will be a live stream online somewhere?

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/ncaa/florida-gators/streaming

[UTGator]

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/ncaa/florida-gators/streaming

You're the man. I appreciate it.

[gatorbait1]

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/ncaa/florida-gators/streaming

It says that it's only for those outside of Florida but Sony think it will still play for those in Florida? If not is there an alternative website that's streaming the game????

[TheRaid]

I am glad people are interested. I am having a hard time being interested at all in the O&B practice. Why should I click on the link? convince me.

[jcp]

I am glad people are interested. I am having a hard time being interested at all in the O&B practice. Why should I click on the link? convince me.

Don't.

[Jaggator]

Will Jag be there?

Thank you for asking but Jag set aside Saturday to get his taxes prepared. Also, can't help the fact that my brother-in-law is coming to visit us today & tomorrow.

[gatorbait96]

Not working for me so far.

[GatorSean]

Muschamp "we're an ascending program... we'll be at the top."

:yes:

[UFFL]

Everybody and their mother is injured today. Maybe even a few grandmothers

[GatorSean]

I am glad people are interested. I am having a hard time being interested at all in the O&B practice. Why should I click on the link? convince me.

If you have to ask, don't click it.

But the answer is because its Gator Football.

[GataBaitx3]

If you have to ask, don't click it.

But the answer is because its Gator Football.

Boom.

[UFFL]

Interested to see how Maye and Poole are playing

[RayGator]

Temp is 73 and it's a beautiful day in The Swamp!

:)

[GatorSean]

Humphries gained some weight... looks like an actual lineman now.

Easley still dancing...

[ThePlayer]

What's the score?

[UFFL]

Humphries gained some weight... looks like an actual lineman now.

Easley still dancing...

he looks smaller to me (Easley)

[GatorSean]

Jones looks pretty thick! Definitely gained some muscle mass.

[UFFL]

We don't want to watch interviews we want to watch them play

[UFFL]

Our pass rush and pass coverage look good

[HungaryGator]

How come I don't get a live stream of the game when I click on the link? Am I missing something here?

[uftaipan]

We don't want to watch interviews we want to watch them play

This. So far, very disappointing.

[UFFL]

who is #25?

[UFFL]

holy crap this tv coverage is awful

[HungaryGator]

OK nevermind. 25 minutes after It started I FINALLY got it.

[GatorSean]

We don't want to watch interviews we want to watch them play

and now they go to commercial in the middle of a play? WTF?

[cocodrilo]

This is the worst telecast I've ever seen. They're running plays, and Vettel and Moore won't tell us who's running the ball, who's trying to catch it, or anything else. All they can do is run their mouths about anything except what's going on. Disgusting.

[FloridaxGators1]

Wow.....

[bposs]

holy crap this tv coverage is awful

QB drops back to throw.......go to commercial. All we need now is "boom goes the dynamite"!

[gator7_5]

I am glad people are interested. I am having a hard time being interested at all in the O&B practice. Why should I click on the link? convince me.
The question is does anybody give a flip if you watch or not?

People bitch about closed pratices and then bitch about a practice being televised. Meh.

[ThePlayer]

holy crap this tv coverage is awful

WTF...they just went to a commercial in the middle of a snap?
How about showing the "live action" and just 'listening' to the coaches?

[UFFL]

if soccer games can go 45 minutes without a commercial, the O&B game can go 10 minutes without one

[GatorSean]

This is the worst telecast I've ever seen. They're running plays, and Vettel and Moore won't tell us who's running the ball, who's trying to catch it, or anything else. All they can do is run their mouths about anything except what's going on. Disgusting.

That's because they are not even facing the field. They quite literally aren't watching what is happening.

[UFFL]

WTF show the plays WTFFFFF

[co_gator89]

Wow. Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything.

[UFFL]

LOL at Valdez Showers

[uftaipan]

If anyone is raging to know why ESPN will never broadcast our Spring Game (not for many years) unlike they do for Alabama, year after year, then just tune in to this crap. All questions will be answered.

[bposs]

Wow. Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything.

Ok, back to some game type situations. I sense another commercial coming on.

[FloridaxGators1]

Murphy would have got murdered if it were a real game

[UFFL]

Did Muschamp get a beer gut

[FloridaxGators1]

Sloppy...

[gator7_5]

Wow, look at Taylor cut..

[UFFL]

Pease is a smart OC

[FloridaxGators1]

Wow, look at Taylor cut..

He looked GOOD

[UFFL]

Everybody looks good. I like it

[UFFL]

oh man you have to be careful there

[gatorbogey]

man, whoever is directing the shots needs to be replaced

[FloridaxGators1]

These damn commercials during the scrimmage is irritating me. Also, the camera angles are annoying. We wanna see the play!

[j7]

Less coach and other talk and more of the actual practice with commentary on what is happening on the field please. It's like the practice is just a backdrop.

[cocodrilo]

I can't watch any more of this. I tuned in to enjoy something. This broadcast crew is beyond incompetent.

[bposs]

These damn commercials during the scrimmage is irritating me. Also, the camera angles are annoying. We wanna see the play!

If anyone is there live, please let us know if we get in the end zone. We won't see it on TV. Thanks.

[UFFL]

Paul Kennedy and Chris Dingman would do a better job

[uftaipan]

Everybody looks good. I like it

How can you tell?

[GatorSean]

I know I already said this once but I am going to say it again because I'm having trouble believing it myself...

The announcers are not facing the field!

I mean... how did they expect this to work??

[cocodrilo]

Will there be a replay tomorrow for those who have missed this?

[g8r925]

this is the most aggravating thing I've tried to watch.

[bposs]

Will there be a replay tomorrow for those who have missed this?

You'd be better off searching youtube for cell phone video of this practice.

[UFFL]

This entire situation is so weird. It's like UF football can't be taken seriously

[Jaggator]

About how many fans are in attendance?

[uftaipan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-SfYxfJDo

[GatorSean]

Scrimmage drill... time for coaches interviews and commercials so we can't see them actually play.

[bposs]

This entire situation is so weird. It's like UF football can't be taken seriously

I think if we were doing orange vs blue as a full scrimmage more people would show up.

[TnCamoGator]

Amongst all the chaos, has anyone been able to depict anything going on? Who looks good and who doesn't? Anybody made any impressive plays so far?

[UFFL]

I think if we were doing orange vs blue as a full scrimmage more people would show up.

I'm not even talking attendance. I'm just commenting on this broadcasting situation

On a different note, Jeff looks incredibly unchanged compared to last year. I was one of the biggest advocates for Driskel last year, so I hope he gets it going

[gatorbogey]

elam going amish? or is it the Lincoln look?

[bposs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge-SfYxfJDo

Lol. How about this one too?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W45DRy7M1no

[gatorbogey]

About how many fans are in attendance?

hard to tell
probably about 12k?

[GatorSean]

Amongst all the chaos, has anyone been able to depict anything going on? Who looks good and who doesn't? Anybody made any impressive plays so far?

Many of the players look good physically...

Poole, Orr, Humphries, Jones, Watkins all look significantly bigger or more ripped than last year.

But there is no way to tell how well anyone is actually playing.

[FloridaxGators1]

Morrison looks like a beast

[gatorbogey]

hard to tell
probably about 12k?

vettel says 20k

[bposs]

Many of the players look good physically...

Poole, Orr, Humphries, Jones, Watkins all look significantly bigger or more ripped than last year.

But there is no way to tell how well anyone is actually playing.

I've learned more about Sunniland fertilizer products than this team.

[gatorbogey]

I've learned more about Sunniland fertilizer products than this team.

yeah, i'm thinking each play or segment is separately sponsored

[TnCamoGator]

Many of the players look good physically...

Poole, Orr, Humphries, Jones, Watkins all look significantly bigger or more ripped than last year.

But there is no way to tell how well anyone is actually playing.

That's great news. I can't imagine matt Jones being able to get much bigger so that's just incredible. Is DRob playing?

[UFFL]

everybody looks fast

[gatorbogey]

I do like to watch a few of these drills...
though I wish they would have shown them w/ the coach explaining them and what they are looking for, etc instead of showing mostly the interview.

[UFFL]

we just got a reminder that Fred Taylor is the classiest guy ever. seriously what a cool guy

[gator7_5]

Lol @ freddy T. "Yeah, I'm faster"

[j7]

This coverage is frustrating!

[zippyzee]

New title for the TV coverage. Call it the Orange and Blue Debacle!! I've never seen such an amateurish production in my life. A Jr. High journalism/tv class could do a better job. Horrible announcing. Have Nat and Larry taken a breath yet? They have no idea what's going on behind them but they're sticking to the script. Fox/Sun Sports should be embarrassed for this incompetence!!

[adamgator96]

we just got a reminder that Fred Taylor is the classiest guy ever. seriously what a cool guy

Sounded like he retired with his head still full of sense. I didn't expect him to sound so polished.

Go Fred!

[UFFL]

Robinson using the jazz hands to confuse Purifoy. Highly effective

[tilly]

Lots of photos of the crowd popping up on my instagram. (My guess is 20k-25k ...
If your on IG search #orangeandbluedebut

[UFFL]

It's not gameday size, but it's a good showing

[GatorSean]

Looks like Murphy is the holder on field goals... the opens up the playbook for some nice fakes.

[ThePlayer]

Will there be a replay tomorrow for those who have missed this?

The mercy rule prohibits it.

[tilly]

I know you guys hate the coverage. BUT...I am at work and cant watch. You guys are a least watching *some* Gator football being played in the Swamp on a gorgeous Saturday.

I am stuck at a desk.

Your day....is better than mine. :plain:

[j7]

The mercy rule prohibits it.

Good one

[gatorbogey]

unimpressed by the passing game

[GatorSean]

Sweep to Debose... good defense.

[GATORAZ]

unimpressed by the passing game

I think we have two healthy WR's right now

[GatorSean]

BY some miracle I think they've shown Taylor run 5 times now... and all have been impressive.

He's the only player I can form an opinion about, he looks great.

TD Taylor!

[FloridaxGators1]

Kelvin Taylor is looking good

[ThePlayer]

unimpressed by the passing game

Do we have a passing game? :huh:

[gatorbogey]

hard to tell anything but D secondary looks half decent
K Taylor looks pretty darn outstanding.

[GATORAZ]

Kelvin Taylor is looking good

kid has great feet

[g8r925]

Driskel has looked less than impressive, and I have been an advocate of Driskel sense last spring. Can't hit the wr even in a scrimmage.

[gatorbogey]

hey, murphy w/ a completion!

[Gator40]

I can see the "Murphy should be the starter" posts popping up again. Will this be the third year in a row?

[zippyzee]

Somebody please call the FCC and make them stop this coverage!!

[GatorSean]

Morrison is looking good at MLB.

[GatorSean]

So... how long does this thing last?

[bposs]

Somebody please call the FCC and make them stop this coverage!!

The Orange and Blue de-pew!

[bposs]

Morrison is looking good at MLB.

Yeah he does.

[bposs]

So... how long does this thing last?

It's over.

[GATORAZ]

now we wait and hope for good recruiting news

[SkyChimp]

I am concerned about Driskel passing :-(

[socraticsilence]

Driskel has looked less than impressive, and I have been an advocate of Driskel sense last spring. Can't hit the wr even in a scrimmage.

He's great at hitting stationary targets who are open, so if we see a lot of zone he migh be ok, if not well at least he's fast and we have some backs.

[SkyChimp]

Jeff is on fox sports now saying "we have a long way to go but we did good". Ughhhh

[GATORAZ]

Jeff is on fox sports now saying "we have a long way to go but we did good". Ughhhh

what would you like for him to say "everything is great so we wont work hard in the summer in player run practices"?

[Jaggator]

With all the Kelvin Taylor talk in this thread, watch the bright future of Gator football.

Very impressive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYpYkJaxgdI

[GatorSean]

I'm not sure how anyone can form an opinion on the passing game... what did they show 5 passes? They didn't show at least double that amount.

Muschamp seems to think he did well.

[GATORAZ]

I'm not sure how anyone can form an opinion on the passing game... what did they show 5 passes? They didn't show at least double that amount.

Muschamp seems to think he did well.

yep and we only have two fully healthy scholarship WR's right now and both of those guys will not start next year

[Go2gtr]

We also have excellent coverage personnel.

[socraticsilence]

Murphy would have got murdered if it were a real game

We hear this every year but he's been the best spring QB the last two seasons, I'm not saying make him the starter but why can't he get some reps just to see if maybe we have another Matthews situation- where a guy who was overlooked in recruiting and isn't necessarily supremely talented is better on the field than the HS all-americans.

[socraticsilence]

I can see the "Murphy should be the starter" posts popping up again. Will this be the third year in a row?

What would giving him some snaps costs us, he's relatively mobile and being able to run is basically the only thing Jeff brings to the table.

[GatorSean]

We hear this every year but he's been the best spring QB the last two seasons, I'm not saying make him the starter but why can't he get some reps just to see if maybe we have another Matthews situation- where a guy who was overlooked in recruiting and isn't necessarily supremely talented is better on the field than the HS all-americans.

Being the best QB during the OB game (and even that is debatable) is not the same thing as being the best QB during Spring.

[GATORAZ]

socraticsilence has lost it he wants Murphy in the game now

[FloridaxGators1]

We hear this every year but he's been the best spring QB the last two seasons, I'm not saying make him the starter but why can't he get some reps just to see if maybe we have another Matthews situation- where a guy who was overlooked in recruiting and isn't necessarily supremely talented is better on the field than the HS all-americans.

I said that because of the corner blitz he didn't see. I didn't mean it like that.

[socraticsilence]

socraticsilence has lost it he wants Murphy in the game now

I get that he's a weak armed undersized QB but I don't know he could be Johnny Football good- he might have instincts, I know its irrational but Jeff's just so frustrating to watch- he's the most talented QB we've ever had in terms of raw physical talent (Cam is the only guy who might beat him out) but he just doesn't seem to have that intangible quality that made guys like Tim and Danny so special- be it instincts in the pocket (he's no where near as good at change of direction as Tim was but he's quick enough)or touch and anticipation (if you gave Jeff 10 throws he couldn't drop a fade in like Danny did with ease), that makes a short weak not particularly fast QB like Manziel an unstoppable weapon at times, I wish it weren't true but at this point he's still more of an athlete than a QB.

I don't think Murphy can last a whole SEC season but who knows he might be able too, what I do feel is that barring a light going on this summer Jeff's going to be pretty much the same guy he was last year only his best target is gone and teams no longer believe that we'll even attempt the deep ball so windows are going to be tighter.

[GATORAZ]

socraticsilence you know what also made Tim and Danny special? The people around them. Give Jeff the guys those two played with and we go undefeated. Jeff doesnt have to improve a ton for this team to win 11 games. I do expect improvement though.

[tilly]

socraticsilence you know what also made Tim and Danny special? The people around them. Give Jeff the guys those two played with and we go undefeated. Jeff doesnt have to improve a ton for this team to win 11 games. I do expect improvement though.

This. Percy, Demps, Rainey, Anthony, Hilliard, Rhett, Baker etc...are not walking through that door. (I'd last Taylor too...but his son actually has walked through the door )

[gtr2x]

socraticsilence you know what also made Tim and Danny special? The people around them. Give Jeff the guys those two played with and we go undefeated. h.

Just a bit of an exaggeration don't ya think since neither of those 2 Heisman winners had an undefeated season.

[socraticsilence]

socraticsilence you know what also made Tim and Danny special? The people around them. Give Jeff the guys those two played with and we go undefeated. Jeff doesnt have to improve a ton for this team to win 11 games. I do expect improvement though.

this is true to an extent but I'm not sure why people think our talent level is higher at QB than say WR, I've seen nothing to make me think that Jeff is better at playing QB than Reed was at TE or Hammond and Dunbar were at WR. Is it just because he had a lot of stars next to his name, and a ton of physical ability because if that's the case then we're stacked at WR as well I mean Debose was a HS superstar as well.

[Gators2015_BB3]

Just a bit of an exaggeration don't ya think since neither of those 2 Heisman winners had an undefeated season.

Not really.. We were one win away from an undefeated regular season.. I would like to think that with some playmakers on offense, we couldve beaten Georgia.

[StrangeGator]

I don't know what everyone was expecting today. It would have been hard to deliver an entertaining game for the fans. Harder still to make it look like the team has improved. This is often the worst time of year for the team. Players are recovering from injuries, learning new plays, or even new positions. The spring game is rarely a glimpse into what the team will be in the fall.

[sec1]

True ...

[socraticsilence]

Not really.. We were one win away from an undefeated regular season.. I would like to think that with some playmakers on offense, we couldve beaten Georgia.


Switch Danny or Tim for Jeff and we win that game, though I don't know if Danny beats Vandy.

[c_gator24]

Just a bit of an exaggeration don't ya think since neither of those 2 Heisman winners had an undefeated season.

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

[BobbyGator72]

My thoughts on what little we could see today. Our defense backs looked really good, I didnt see a receiver open all day. I liked Morrison and McMillian had a couple of nice plays. Taylor had a few nice runs but then dropped an easy pass during the 1 minute drill. Ajabe had a nice run early. Clay Burton had a nice catch. The kickers both made every kick they showed and I thought Hardin looked to be more accurate and get the ball off higher and further, then at the end of the practice Phillips made his and Hardin clanked his kick off the upright. Hard to gather much from what was actually shown, the QB's did not do much except for the shorter passes but they didnt really have anyone open. Defense looked pretty good. Orr seemed to be pretty active. As Driskel said there is definately alot of work that needs to be done in the summer. The QB's and receivers need to throw every day.

[GATORAZ]

this is true to an extent but I'm not sure why people think our talent level is higher at QB than say WR, I've seen nothing to make me think that Jeff is better at playing QB than Reed was at TE or Hammond and Dunbar were at WR. Is it just because he had a lot of stars next to his name, and a ton of physical ability because if that's the case then we're stacked at WR as well I mean Debose was a HS superstar as well.

Hammond is not going to make an NFL roster. Reed will but who else from last year? Gillie might be in the league for what 3 years?

Now look at the team Tebow played on and look how long some of those guys are going to be in the league?

[Tito22]

Hammond is not going to make an NFL roster. Reed will but who else from last year? Gillie might be in the league for what 3 years?

Now look at the team Tebow played on and look how long some of those guys are going to be in the league?

Gilly getting 3 years only? I don't know about that. I think he is a lot better than you give him credit for

[GATORAZ]

Gilly getting 3 years only? I don't know about that. I think he is a lot better than you give him credit for

How many years then 5? This is the NFL the average roster turns over every 3 years. It is really really hard to stay in the NFL for an extended amount of time.

[rounds]

Jeff started 0-4 on short to medium passes. First one was wide in flat and should have been a pick 6. sigh....
Same old Jeff.

[number1]

Not really.. We were one win away from an undefeated regular season.. I would like to think that with some playmakers on offense, we couldve beaten Georgia.

Or a better QB. I mean you have to look at it both ways. Can't just blame that loss on the WRs when the QB made tons of unforced mistakes.

[socraticsilence]

Jeff started 0-4 on short to medium passes. First one was wide in flat and should have been a pick 6. sigh....
Same old Jeff.


How was the deep ball how many shots down the field did we hit on?

[gatorbogey]

I saw we went once semi deep, like a corner route. but the coverage was so sporatic it would be difficult to make any sort of definitive assessment about how things looked.
& I think murphy had a few plays looking long, but didn't throw deep (would have been sacked).

[GATORAZ]

How was the deep ball how many shots down the field did we hit on?

I saw someone say that really wasn't an emphasis today

[Tito22]

How many years then 5? This is the NFL the average roster turns over every 3 years. It is really really hard to stay in the NFL for an extended amount of time.

I take it you are trying to make the argument that we didn't have the talent that we had in the Tebow years. I agree with that but not on Gilly. He is twice the tailback that Rainey or Demps were

[GATORAZ]

I take it you are trying to make the argument that we didn't have the talent that we had in the Tebow years. I agree with that but not on Gilly. He is twice the tailback that Rainey or Demps were

I would disagree with that. If he was twice the talent he would have played when they. were here.

How many years do you think he will be in the NFL seriously?

[gator1986]

So as of now since I was busy today, what's the news about today? Any good passing going on? Anything good? Anymore commits to expect besides Roger Clemens?

[GATORAZ]

So as of now since I was busy today, what's the news about today? Any good passing going on? Anything good? Anymore commits to expect besides Roger Clemens?

well Muschamp was asked bout how the team acted during the Louisville game. He said nothing is going to change. He says when you are beating LSU nobody has a problem with it but when you lose to Louisville they are a "bunch of thugs".

[gator1986]

well Muschamp was asked bout how the team acted during the Louisville game. He said nothing is going to change. He says when you are beating LSU nobody has a problem with it but when you lose to Louisville they are a "bunch of thugs".

Lol he said that!!???? If so I agree..

[Tito22]

I would disagree with that. If he was twice the talent he would have played when they. were here.

How many years do you think he will be in the NFL seriously?

Coaches make dumb personnel decisions all the time on every level. I would say a minimum of 5 years for Gilly but to be more specific, i would say longer than Demps and Rainey combined

[gator1986]

Coaches make dumb personnel decisions all the time on every level. I would say a minimum of 5 years for Gilly but to be more specific, i would say longer than Demps and Rainey combined

If Rainey straightened up I could see him lasting longer than five. Demps can be purely a kickoff and punt returner so the possibility is endless for him.

[GATORAZ]

Coaches make dumb personnel decisions all the time on every level. I would say a minimum of 5 years for Gilly but to be more specific, i would say longer than Demps and Rainey combined

Two staffs picked those two over him. Rainey is an idiot for fighting with his girlfriend. Demps is an idiot for saying he wants to play both sports so Gily should be in the league longer but 5 years is a long time. No way two staff didnt see that a player was TWICE as good as those other two and didnt play him

[GATORAZ]

Lol he said that!!???? If so I agree..

yep Boom talked a lot of crap as a player he is not going to stop our team from celebrating plays.

[Tito22]

If Rainey straightened up I could see him lasting longer than five. Demps can be purely a kickoff and punt returner so the possibility is endless for him.

Rainey has no shot at lasting longer than 5.

[gator1986]

I kind of disagree. Gillislee was not the ideal back for urban, then when muschamp came in he tried to stick to a similar offensive plan to make the adjustment level as easy as possible. He knew Demps and Rainey were great playmakers, he tried to utilize them as much as possible to make the change easy. If Gillislee would of been allowed to run for a year or two before, I think I would of been different. Do you think Muschamp would start Gillislee next year over Rainey and Demps if they all had another year and Gillislee had a year like this? Absolutely.... No question....

[gator1986]

Rainey has no shot at lasting longer than 5.

Why is that? He is a kickoff returner... He has speed and great cuts, and jukes... He could last as long as he wanted... He only won't for his own stupidity...

[Tito22]

Why is that? He is a kickoff returner... He has speed and great cuts, and jukes... He could last as long as he wanted... He only won't for his own stupidity...

Rainey all that in college too and while it all looked good, he only balled against bad competition. It showed in the NFL, 102 yards.rushing total for the season and 14 catches for a whopping 60 yards.

[Tito22]

Two staffs picked those two over him. Rainey is an idiot for fighting with his girlfriend. Demps is an idiot for saying he wants to play both sports so Gily should be in the league longer but 5 years is a long time. No way two staff didnt see that a player was TWICE as good as those other two and didnt play him

I don't think it is that far fetched that both staffs made an error on Gilly. In fact.I thought I read a quote this past season where Muschamp says he should have played Gilly more the year before. You are right 5 years is a long time but I believe RG is good enough to last that long. Barring injury of course

[gator1986]

Rainey all that in college too and while it all looked good, he only balled against bad competition. It showed in the NFL, 102 yards.rushing total for the season and 14 catches for a whopping 60 yards.

As I said... As a kickoff/punt returner he could last as long as he wanted... As a RB no... But I have seen games this past year where when he found a hole, in a depleted O Line, he would burst for 12-15 yards... Pittsburgh's o line was horrible this past year.

[Tito22]

As I said... As a kickoff/punt returner he could last as long as he wanted... As a RB no... But I have seen games this past year where when he found a hole, in a depleted O Line, he would burst for 12-15 yards... Pittsburgh's o line was horrible this past year.

Agree to disagree. Any time I hear Rainey and punt return I think of the worst display by a punt returner ever in last years Auburn game. You are a fan of his and that's cool. I liked Rainey too, but he was never that good in my eyes

[gator1986]

Agree to disagree. Any time I hear Rainey and punt return I think of the worst display by a punt returner ever in last years Auburn game. You are a fan of his and that's cool. I liked Rainey too, but he was never that good in my eyes

Lol I'm not a huge Rainey fan? I was more a Gillislee fan, from when they used to put him in the 4th quarter and they'd let him run for 60 yards. I just believe if Rainey puts effort into it, he can excel the talent is there... Mentality is not obviously... Agree to disagree.... I agree lol

[ApexNC]

well Muschamp was asked bout how the team acted during the Louisville game. He said nothing is going to change. He says when you are beating LSU nobody has a problem with it but when you lose to Louisville they are a "bunch of thugs".

Wow...so it's ok to be classless as long as you're winning? SMH

[UFreak]

I wasn't concerned about thuggery. I was put off by idiocy. We were getting waxed and still celebrating.

[socraticsilence]

I take it you are trying to make the argument that we didn't have the talent that we had in the Tebow years. I agree with that but not on Gilly. He is twice the tailback that Rainey or Demps were


I think you're severely underrating Demps and Rainey- one was a top 25 5 star back who contributed all over the field, the other had Olympic Speed, Mike was better in our current scheme but he would not have done what Jeff and Chris did along side Tim.

[Tito22]

I think you're severely underrating Demps and Rainey- one was a top 25 5 star back who contributed all over the field, the other had Olympic Speed, Mike was better in our current scheme but he would not have done what Jeff and Chris did along side Tim.

Come on man, his recruiting stars? That means nothing once college starts

[Gatuar]

Rainey was terrible....but awesome against Citadel and Charleston Southern

[Tito22]

I wouldn't say terrible, but ineffective against good competition

[socraticsilence]

Demps and Rainey were a much better fit than Gilly in Meyer's offense I don't think you can fault the coaches there, and given our dearth of weapons going with Demps and Rainey in 2011 is also understandable.

[GATORAZ]

Wow...so it's ok to be classless as long as you're winning? SMH

He doesn't think we act classless in either situation

[GATORAZ]

Rainey was terrible....but awesome against Citadel and Charleston Southern

it was the Oline more than Rainey.

[socraticsilence]

it was the Oline more than Rainey.

This as well, give Rainey a USC 05 or Bama 12 line and he looks a lot like Reggie Bush- not a workhorse but an awesome talent.

[RayGator]

The attendance was down but no doubt it was larger than what the Hurricanes get at a "home game" in the Dolphins stadium in Miami Gardens.

[socraticsilence]

The attendance was down but no doubt it was larger than what the Hurricanes get at a "home game" in the Dolphins stadium in Miami Gardens.


I'd have attended if I lived in Gainesville, its hard to justify driving hours to attend a practice.

[SECund2nun]

Demps and Rainey were a much better fit than Gilly in Meyer's offense I don't think you can fault the coaches there, and given our dearth of weapons going with Demps and Rainey in 2011 is also understandable.

I'll take MG over Demps and Rainey in any offense. MG can run with speed, power, run inside and outside. Plus he is a better blocker. Rainey and Demps cannot run well inside against a non garbage defense. They are both complementary situational role players. MG is a feature back.

MG should have been starting from day one.

[socraticsilence]

I'll take MG over Demps and Rainey in any offense. MG can run with speed, power, run inside and outside. Plus he is a better blocker. Rainey and Demps cannot run well inside against a non garbage defense. They are both complementary situational role players. MG is a feature back.

MG should have been starting from day one.

We had a feature back for Mike's first 2 seasons-- Tebow, having true homerun hitters was more valuable- Mike's not a homerun threat in SEC play (to put it another way Jeff Demps never had a season with run shorter than 60 yards, Mike never ran it for more than 60 in his entire career). In a space based approach Demps and Rainey were more dangerous and more consistent players on everything but runs up the gut- which due to the aforementioned best inside runner in college history we had covered.

2009 was the best year Florida's ever had for running the ball-- its not like a feature back was a must have.

[g8rfan22]

who is #25?

Gideon Ajagbe. Converted fron LB to FB to add more depth at the position.

[TJtheGator]

What was the final attendance number?

[RayGator]

What was the final attendance number?

In the Lakeland Ledger this morning "20,000 plus" is what was printed. Not an exact number.

[Swampmaster]

In the Lakeland Ledger this morning "20,000 plus" is what was printed. Not an exact number.

No way there were 20000 people at that practice

[UFreak]

No way there were 20000 people at that practice

He said it wasn't an exact number. :)

I agree. I think 15,000 is probably fair. 18,000 at absolute best

[RayGator]

Sunday 4.7.2013 The Lakeland Ledger

Final Spring Practice Leaves Passing Doubts

>> Many of the 20,000 plus fans who showed up Saturday at The Swamp for Florida's final Spring Practice probably left 2 hours later still wondering (and probably worrying) about the downfield passing game.

It simply wasn't there.

But that doesn't mean it won't be there in the Fall. That's the message that coach Will Muschamp and QB Jeff Driskel delivered after the practice. <<

"I think it will a lot better in the Fall. We have more guys that can stretch the field. We have good team speed at the receiver position. Our line is blocking a lot better. And the quarterbacks are doing a better job knowing when he have the opportunity to launch the ball."

"It's kind of everything working together and running the ball well to set up those plays."

- Gator QB Jeff Driskel.

>> Muschamp did not seemed concerned what happened at Saturday's practice. <<
And he explains why in the article.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20130406/NEWS/130409348/1002/sports?Title=Final-Spring-Practice-Leaves-Passing-Doubts

I think it's a good article, review on the Saturday Orange and Blue Debut.