Can NFL Teams ask Manti Te'o if he is gay...

[ArtVandelay]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--can-nfl-teams-ask-manti-te-o-if-he-s-gay--depends-on-which-teams-are-doing-the-asking-024157625.html

Very interesting article.

Not sure that any player would answer honestly if they were...

Not sure that it would matter if they were...

Law of averages suggests that there have to be some in the NFL.

[Nicho]

Probably better to inquire in a roundabout way... "Manti, showtunes make up what percentage of your MP3 collection?"

[GatorAvatar]

The NFL Players Association is aware of those rumblings — and Colorado tight end Nick Kasa's contention that he was asked if he's a heterosexual — and the union wants the league to investigate whether, and to what extent, it occurred.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/02/27/nfl-to-investigate-scouting-combine-questions-about-sexual-preferences/1951703/

[qwghlmgator]

Why would a team ask, unless they had definitive statistics that gay players have a negative WAR vis-a-vis straight players??? I want my team to have the best players. Period.

Unfortunately I'm a Jags fan, so that's not in the cards for me, but still...

[HudsonGator]

Probably better to inquire in a roundabout way... "Manti, showtunes make up what percentage of your MP3 collection?"

Nice. :laugh:

[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

The Dolphins asked Dez Bryant about his prostitute mother so I'd imagine anything's possible, bro.

[PSGator66]

Nicho - CLASSIC!!

[nawlinsgator]

Why would a team ask, unless they had definitive statistics that gay players have a negative WAR vis-a-vis straight players??? I want my team to have the best players. Period.

Unfortunately I'm a Jags fan, so that's not in the cards for me, but still...

I'd imagine it's a locker room cohesion kind of thing. You don't want your starting middle linebacker to be ostracized by the rest of the team.

[adamgator96]

Not legally IMO.

I think it's going to take a top tier player like Brady, P Manning, or A Peterson to come out while at the top of his game before attitudes can begin to change.

[gatorzguy28]

There are better questions to ask:

What color family is puce in?
What is a tiramisu?
Name 4 characters in the village people?
Who was the last american gold medalist figure skater?
Get an opinion on Judy Garland/Liza Minnelli

Funny story: I had a friend who thought her boyfriend my swing the other way. I suggested that she ask about puce and/or tiramisu. She asked him about puce and he quickly said 'it's pink'. So she called me and was amazed at how that worked. I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads. Once he mentioned Liza, that was the end. This list works every time! We found out later that he had to cover since he was military.

[geauxgator1]

There are better questions to ask:

What color family is puce in?
What is a tiramisu?
Name 4 characters in the village people?
Who was the last american gold medalist figure skater?
Get an opinion on Judy Garland/Liza Minnelli

Funny story: I had a friend who thought her boyfriend my swing the other way. I suggested that she ask about puce and/or tiramisu. She asked him about puce and he quickly said 'it's pink'. So she called me and was amazed at how that worked. I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads. Once he mentioned Liza, that was the end. This list works every time! We found out later that he had to cover since he was military.

I agree with most of the list but not tiramisu. Everyone knows what tiramisu is, unless you've lead a sheltered life.

[tilly]

I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads.

Yet YOU knew? NTTIWWT :joecool:

[Allanon]

There are better questions to ask:

What color family is puce in?
What is a tiramisu?
Name 4 characters in the village people?
Who was the last american gold medalist figure skater?
Get an opinion on Judy Garland/Liza Minnelli

Funny story: I had a friend who thought her boyfriend my swing the other way. I suggested that she ask about puce and/or tiramisu. She asked him about puce and he quickly said 'it's pink'. So she called me and was amazed at how that worked. I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads. Once he mentioned Liza, that was the end. This list works every time! We found out later that he had to cover since he was military.

Hey, Liza Minnelli did alright in Arthur.

[HudsonGator]

I am sure most in the NFL live by DADT

[Jstewie15]

I wonder if Patriots were team they already have 1 gay Te (Gronkowski) maybe they want another. lol

[gatorzguy28]

Yet YOU knew? NTTIWWT :joecool:

Yes. Yes I do. I know a lot of things that the average walking-around kinda person would not know.

[jagervol01]

I agree with most of the list but not tiramisu. Everyone knows what tiramisu is, unless you've lead a sheltered life.
Call me a loser but I had to google it. An Italian dessert made of ladyfingers dipped in coffee and layered with egg yoke and cocoa. It sounds ok to me. Does that make me a flamer or something?

[exiledgator]

Not legally IMO.

I think it's going to take a top tier player like Brady, P Manning, or A Peterson to come out while at the top of his game before attitudes can begin to change.

Have you seen Brady dance? Or dress?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Supermodels. Whatever. Gay guys never marry chicks. :roll: :laugh:

[Gatorphenom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ffHd7O3yQ

[gatordavisl]

They need to ask?

[anstro76]

legally they shouldn't and why do they care. he can either play football or he can't

Sent from my mind using esp

[geauxgator1]

Call me a loser but I had to google it. An Italian dessert made of ladyfingers dipped in coffee and layered with egg yoke and cocoa. It sounds ok to me. Does that make me a flamer or something?

I guess Italian restaurants in Tennessee are limited to Dominoe's and Pizza Hut. No problem, you get a pass.

[JohnC1908]

Being gay would be the least of my worries with him. That outrageous lie he's told would bother me a bit more. Although if he can play I really wouldn't give a damn either way.

[wygator]

legally they shouldn't and why do they care. he can either play football or he can't

Sent from my mind using esp

Not sure that the EEO rules about questions you can ask apply to football players who are contract workers, not employees.

[samdingo]

On the local (Columbia, SC) radio station they were discussing this and apparently former Gamecock Chris Culliver (yeah, the one with the gay remark at the Super Bowl) said one team asked him if he had ever worn women's panties.

Definitely some strange questions there, but they're usually probably more interested in your reaction than what you actually say.

The whole thing is beginning to get a little silly. I had to start questioning my own sexuality after I realized I was watching hulking, cut dudes in neon spandex basically exercising for hours on end. :huh:

[Swampmaster]

Not directly---but they can show him a picture of AJ Mccarron and AJ's girlfriend and ask who he likes better.

[exiledgator]

Not directly---but they can show him a picture of AJ Mccarron and AJ's girlfriend and ask who he likes better.

That question would make a lot of GC posters sound gay.

"I've seen hotter..." "It's all makeup." etc

[UFreak]

Yes. Yes I do. I know a lot of things that the average walking-around kinda person would not know.

Like being gay?

[sleeze]

If u have to ask...then he Prolly is.

[Gatormb]

There are better questions to ask:

What color family is puce in?
What is a tiramisu?
Name 4 characters in the village people?
Who was the last american gold medalist figure skater?
Get an opinion on Judy Garland/Liza Minnelli

Funny story: I had a friend who thought her boyfriend my swing the other way. I suggested that she ask about puce and/or tiramisu. She asked him about puce and he quickly said 'it's pink'. So she called me and was amazed at how that worked. I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads. Once he mentioned Liza, that was the end. This list works every time! We found out later that he had to cover since he was military.

Too funny. Got a zero on that test BTW.

Perhaps TD celebration dances could be previewed.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Why would a team ask, unless they had definitive statistics that gay players have a negative WAR vis-a-vis straight players??? I want my team to have the best players. Period.

Unfortunately I'm a Jags fan, so that's not in the cards for me, but still...

My thoughts. Who cares?

[G8R92]

If u have to ask...then he Prolly is.

More likely that if you have to ask, then don't draft him. He's already going to be hazed by his new teammates wherever he goes.

Personally, if I was a GM, that game against Bama tells me all I need to know.

[col_kurtz]

The guy is looking more and more like an undrafted free agent

[dadx4]

Probably better to inquire in a roundabout way... "Manti, showtunes make up what percentage of your MP3 collection?"

Classic

[DuPontGator]

So what was the deal? Sexting with a dude got busted and made up the crazy girlfriend story as a cover?

[Spurffelbow833]

That question would make a lot of GC posters sound gay.

"I've seen hotter..." "It's all makeup." etc

Unless they proceed with specific makeup and fashion tips for her, it doesn't mean anything.

[GatorRade]

Why would a team ask, unless they had definitive statistics that gay players have a negative WAR vis-a-vis straight players??? I want my team to have the best players. Period.

Unfortunately I'm a Jags fan, so that's not in the cards for me, but still...

Data?? We talkin about data?!?

[boatdrinks]

There are better questions to ask:

What color family is puce in?
What is a tiramisu?
Name 4 characters in the village people?
Who was the last american gold medalist figure skater?
Get an opinion on Judy Garland/Liza Minnelli

Funny story: I had a friend who thought her boyfriend my swing the other way. I suggested that she ask about puce and/or tiramisu. She asked him about puce and he quickly said 'it's pink'. So she called me and was amazed at how that worked. I told here there are very very few folks who will just know what that is off the top of their heads. Once he mentioned Liza, that was the end. This list works every time! We found out later that he had to cover since he was military.

Great. Now I know what puce is after reading this post. Apparently I'm going to fail (or pass depending on your point of view) the gay test from here on out. My wife is going to be pissed.

[Nicho]

Great. Now I know what puce is after reading this post. Apparently I'm going to fail (or pass depending on your point of view) the gay test from here on out. My wife is going to be pissed.

Quit acting like such a puce. Oh wait, wrong pronunciation. :)

[GatorLaw]

Not sure that the EEO rules about questions you can ask apply to football players who are contract workers, not employees.

What? Football players have contracts but that doesn't make them "contract workers" in the legal sense. They're employees of the team with which they sign a contract for every purpose I know of (especially federal tax laws, which is one of the most significant areas where the difference between "employee" and "independent contractor" is important).

As for asking the question about being gay, in the context of the Combine I think it depends on State law and how strict a given State's employment/discrimination laws are. I read somewhere that 17 States have laws stringent enough to prevent this question from being asked and that it would be o.k. in the others.

I'm not an employment/labor lawyer so I don't know any more about the second paragraph of this message than anyone else. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me, my feelings won't be hurt.

[gator1986]

Why ask its obvious

[lurkingator1]

yes but they can't make him prove it

[ArtVandelay]

What? Football players have contracts but that doesn't make them "contract workers" in the legal sense. They're employees of the team with which they sign a contract for every purpose I know of (especially federal tax laws, which is one of the most significant areas where the difference between "employee" and "independent contractor" is important).

As for asking the question about being gay, in the context of the Combine I think it depends on State law and how strict a given State's employment/discrimination laws are. I read somewhere that 17 States have laws stringent enough to prevent this question from being asked and that it would be o.k. in the others.

I'm not an employment/labor lawyer so I don't know any more about the second paragraph of this message than anyone else. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me, my feelings won't be hurt.

The articles lists which teams (states) have those laws.

[ArtVandelay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ffHd7O3yQ

That video was hilarious!!!

Love the Al Roker bit.

[gatorzguy28]

Great. Now I know what puce is after reading this post. Apparently I'm going to fail (or pass depending on your point of view) the gay test from here on out. My wife is going to be pissed.

Don't worry---there are still others you can go by. Honestly, two of the best measures I have honestly seen in the real world that are almost 100% is in grooming and piercings.
For some reason that I don't understand, nipple piercing ( and having another very sensitive part pierced also) is very common with gay men and so is body shaving and grooming of the body hair (known as manscaping). So if any of that is present, then you pretty much have your answer. But if you are having to google the answer for the test questions, you are straight for sure!:yes::yes:

[tilly]

Its true, that most states do allow the question.

[secgator]

Being gay would be the least of my worries with him. That outrageous lie he's told would bother me a bit more. Although if he can play I really wouldn't give a damn either way.

And therein lies the answer....after the Bama game, we now all know that he CAN'T play.:laugh:

[TheGator]

Probably better to inquire in a roundabout way... "Manti, showtunes make up what percentage of your MP3 collection?"

:laugh:

[grant1]

They need to ask?

A middle LB with 4.8+ speed (see BCS game for tackle skills), why talk to him at all???

[CRIMDEFgator]

Sure they can ask him. There is no law against it. Gays are not a protected class under any law that would stop an employer from asking him that. Now if they asked him if he was pregnant they would have a lawsuit on their hands. But if he actually were carrying Tuaissosoaoipoi's baby that would certainly explain his 40 time.