Matt Doherty's performance tonight

[MadduxFanII]

I don't start a lot of announcer threads, and I try not to go in for the "everyone's against us" narrative that's so easy for fans to take at face value, but did it seem to anyone else that Matt Doherty was just extraordinarily critical tonight?

I thought the PBP guy spent a little bit too much on our perceived flaws, but he at least always made a point of emphasizing that we were the number five team in the country and every comparison was being made against the elite teams.

But Doherty seemed to spend the entire game shredding us and talking up Arkansas. He was showering praise on the Razorbacks all night, going on about how they were playing so well, at one point actually saying "they have Florida right where they want them" when we were up by six. Arkansas never actually led in the game.

He kept castigating us for getting beaten on the boards by Arkansas, and we out-rebounded them by eight.

At one point we were up 14 with a little more than 10 minutes to go and Doherty said, "Florida has a 14-point lead, but it doesn't feel nearly that big sitting courtside."

And then there was the play where Young ripped down an offensive board over three different Razorbacks, decided to pass it out while surrounded by those three players and two passes later Rosario hit a three. And Doherty intoned, "Yeah, they got the three, but I'd rather see Young take it up strong there."

I don't know, am I just paranoid? Or did anyone else notice this?

[hgators]

He was tryong to get Murphy to change his style and be a power post guy after3 plus years.

Tar Heel/ACC Snobbery.

[TheRealTejasGatorII]

Look at his coaching history - all you need to know.

[ufgator865]

Most of what he said was legitimate. He did over state Arkansas at times, but we are a much better team when we play inside out.

[NorthCaptivaGator]

Most of what he said was legitimate. He did over state Arkansas at times, but we are a much better team when we play inside out.

It depends, when guards are pressing us and switching on screens yes we need to work inside out, when they're backing off or playing zone we shoot the three.

[Osiris_DPM]

Doherty was such a good coach that he turned UNC into an NIT team en route to being canned.

[gtr2x]

I thought he was better than he usually is. At least he talked about the actual game instead of where dinner was going to be, unlike some announcers.

[allanhovey]

I absolutely noticed it, Maddux. In particular, I noticed the three things you mentioned.

Listening to this guy, I always feel like he is watching a different game than i am. He just says weird things.

[iam4uf]

Doherty was talking about UF in terms of elite teams & how we needed to fix things. I saw nothing wrong with what he said, it seemed to be pretty much on target for what UF needs to do be to the best of the best.

[UFreak]

Doherty was talking about UF in terms of elite teams & how we needed to fix things. I saw nothing wrong with what he said, it seemed to be pretty much on target for what UF needs to do be to the best of the best.

Yeah. That's how I saw it too.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

I agree with the overall points of the OP regarding Doherty. The guy seemed to be commenting on a different game than was what was played. He once said, "Florida is up by 12, but it feels less than that." I wanted to tweet him when we got up by twenty and ask him if it seemed like we were winning by less than that.

That said, we were out rebounded in the game by 3. There may have been a some times in the game when we lead in rebounding, but Arkansas kicked our butts on the boards for most of the second half.

[MadduxFanII]

Well, there are two different topics here. The first is the larger discussion Doherty and his PBP guy were having over Florida's place in the national title race. Again, while I thought they were slightly over-emphasizing some of our flaws, I didn't have many problems there.

The second topic is the conversation Doherty was having over the game itself. There, I thought he was being relentlessly critical of the team that ended up winning easily while endlessly praising the team that lost by 17 points.

[ugaGator]

Was Doherty the one getting the Mikes mixed up?

[MadduxFanII]

That said, we were out rebounded in the game by 3. There may have been a some times in the game when we lead in rebounding, but Arkansas kicked our butts on the boards for most of the second half.

Yep, you're right. I was going by the MVG thread, but the official boxscore says Arkansas +3.

[Allanon]

I agree with the overall points of the OP regarding Doherty. The guy seemed to be commenting on a different game than was what was played. He once said, "Florida is up by 12, but it feels less than that." I wanted to tweet him when we got up by twenty and ask him if it seemed like we were winning by less than that.

That said, we were out rebounded in the game by 3. There may have been a some times in the game when we lead in rebounding, but Arkansas kicked our butts on the boards for most of the second half.

ESPN ScoreCenter has the rebounds at 38-30 Gators.

[irish2u2]

Doherty knows his Xs and Os so as a student of the game his commentary was mostly fine. But...as Maddux alluded to... there were times when it felt like Doherty was rooting for Arkansas. He had the Gators "on the ropes" so many times I kept thinking the scoreboard must be wrong. :joecool:

If Doherty, or any outsider for that matter, wants to "fix" the Gators then find a way to get them all healthy again. We had basically six guys tonight against a high energy team and I think we did all right. :joecool: I didn't hear the announcers talking about that too much.

As stated before Doherty knows the game but his personality is extremely grating. In fact it has been long rumored that his losing ACC record was a factor in him getting fired by UNC but the truth was he lost his team and they didn't want to play for him.

I could see that happening...

[JAG8R]

Sometime during the first half we were up by seven, I think, and heard him say we were on the ropes. WTF My wife even jumped off the couch with that one.

The comment is obviously wrong but is something a coach might say to get some more fire in his troops. The problem is he wasn't there to be Arkansas' coach!

[ETGator1]

It was a problem. There was times after some pretty tough comments about UF that I thought about turning the sound off. It was that bad for me.

As somebody above said, fix the injuries and we're fine. Doherty may not like that, but crapola on him if he doesn't.

[TruGator]

Was Doherty the one getting the Mikes mixed up?

Yes, that was annoying me.

[bearshark]

So WHAT??? All we need to do is take care of business.

[warhorsegator]

Doherty fails to understand a basic aspect of sound, whether you are talking about speech, music, or any aspect: The period of silence is as important as the period of sound in achieving greatness.

Doherty feels like he must fill ever microsecond with the sound of his voice. No wonder he has been fired twice by major bb program. An example: when P. Young passed out for a three, Doherty could not get off his belief that Young should have gone up hard. BB is a matter of choices; a lot easier for a guy in the booth (or a computer monitor :nervous smile:) to assert a different choice as the best choice.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Doherty was talking about UF in terms of elite teams & how we needed to fix things. I saw nothing wrong with what he said, it seemed to be pretty much on target for what UF needs to do be to the best of the best.

A common topic with all of the games that are broadcasted, is who will earn a number one seed. That discussion has been brought up every time I've seen Florida on television. And there will be a direct correlation between how we're playing and whether or not we deserve that seed. We may think that it has more to do with the overall body of work, but the announcers are going to tie in how we're playing-at the moment-with what they think.

We did not look like an elite, number-one seed for the first twenty minutes of that game. It's not Doherty's job to tell everybody we look like an elite team when we're not playing well. Even our own fans on the game thread were pointing out that Arkansas was doing a good job defensively in the first half, and I think Doherty was impressed too.

He gave Young a lot of praise in the second half, and constantly talked about how well our bigs were running the floor. I saw nothing wrong with his commentary. He called it how he saw it.

[luciaboy]

the belt from his pants was probably choking him. he wears his pants so high up on his body he looks like a 1920's baseball player--dork. he really did suck as a coach. espn will let anyone that was an excoach become an announcer

[oxymoron]

Who cares what that clown says. He couldn't even win as a coach at UNC his alma mater. His players hated him. You have to be a big douchebag to lose at UNC. He spent one year at FAU and then bolted for SMU. He had 5 or 6 poor years there and got fired and now he's an expert on tv.

[gator07]

Doherty fails to understand a basic aspect of sound, whether you are talking about speech, music, or any aspect: The period of silence is as important as the period of sound in achieving greatness.

Doherty feels like he must fill ever microsecond with the sound of his voice. No wonder he has been fired twice by major bb program. An example: when P. Young passed out for a three, Doherty could not get off his belief that Young should have gone up hard. BB is a matter of choices; a lot easier for a guy in the booth (or a computer monitor :nervous smile:) to assert a different choice as the best choice.

Yeah I thought it was pretty strange how he went into a whole dissertation on blocking shots with your left hand when young got called for a foul with less than a second left and the gators up big. The game was over at that point.

It reminded me of playing madden or something where the announcers make comments using their "artificial intelligence" but half the time are completely oblivious to the game situation.

[gatorbogey]

that's hilarious - the madden announcer analogy ;)

[lean_gator]

The game was never in doubt nor did it ever feel like it.

[gatorbogey]

The game was never in doubt nor did it ever feel like it.

that's how i felt watching it in the stands.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

ESPN ScoreCenter has the rebounds at 38-30 Gators.

They are wrong. Look at the official box score on GatorZone.

[fairfaxgator]

Too bad. So sad!

[IH8REFS]

I'm just tired of the incessant commentary about how the ball needs to go into the post. Give it a rest already.

[Allanon]

They are wrong. Look at the official box score on GatorZone.

It has changed now by adding 11 rebounds to the Razorback total. The link to espn on the MVG thread still has them with 30. Amazing how they can be that far off.

[irish2u2]

This was the major issue regardless if you believe Doherty has an anti-Gator bias or not. As I stated before he knows his Xs and Os but I suddenly realized (thanks to another post in this thread) what bothered me most about his analysis. He kept suggesting perfectly logical plays and situations but they were based on HIS personal philosophy and not Billy Donovan's nor the Florida personnel. That is why he kept getting it in his head that Erik Murphy, one of the most lethal long distance shooters in the SEC, should work the blocks more.

Maybe I just don't like ex-Heels. Or Dookies.

BTW, that is a pretty good analysis that some dead air is a good thing too. Picture worth a thousand words and all that.... :joecool:

[elrongator]

Doherty has been hyper critical of the Gators every time I have seen him as our announcer.
My only problem with this is the negative impression it may give to anyone tuning in that later has any input whatsoever in determining seeding for the tourney brackets.
If his stupid commentary costs us so much as one place in the seeding I say we lynch him and cut out his tongue!!! Lol

[cudigator]

Doherty has been hyper critical of the Gators every time I have seen him as our announcer.
My only problem with this is the negative impression it may give to anyone tuning in that later has any input whatsoever in determining seeding for the tourney brackets.
If his stupid commentary costs us so much as one place in the seeding I say we lynch him and cut out his tongue!!! Lol

Would absolutely not affect seeding whatsoever. Ash or whatever his name is could be calling the game and it wouldn't matter.