NFL Combine Update Thread

[gatormoe1]

Courtesy of Gatorcountry facebook, feel free to add anything you come across.

Florida RB Mike Gillislee checked in at the combine at 5'11 1/8" and 208 lbs. with 9 3/8" hands and an arm length of 31 1/8".

Florida offensive lineman Xavier Nixon checked in at the combine at 6-foot-6, 321-pounds with 10 1/8" hands.

[yellowboy90]

Any measurement on Reed. I know he is on the field tomorrow with the Ol.

[proud_poppa]

Read that Sturgis was the most consistent and strongest kicker on the day!

[GatorAlum_03]

Reed with 16 reps (225), 2nd lowest amongst tight ends, but only because the guy who did 3 reps tore his pec.

[GATORAZ]

Reed ran a 4.62

[UFreak]

Reed ran a 4.62

Damn!

[StrangeGator]

Reed ran a 4.62

More than respectable. That's probably one of the best times for TE in the entire combine. Be interesting to see fastest times this year. The conditions seem to change somewhat from year to year.

[StrangeGator]

Zach Ertz is the only TE predicted to go in the first round and he ran a 4.79.

Saw that Floyd ran just over five flat. That's excellent for his size.

[MiddleTNgator]

Reed finished 7th in TE's in the 40.

[RayUF07]

Zach Ertz is the only TE predicted to go in the first round and he ran a 4.79.

Saw that Floyd ran just over five flat. That's excellent for his size.

Eifert > Ertz.

Eifert will go R1.

[RealGatorFan]

Reed ran a 4.62

That's a tick faster than this guy:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1540859-terron-armstead-full-profile-of-combines-speedy-lineman?hpt=hp_t2

Keep in mind this guy is the fastest lineman in history of the combine.

[RealGatorFan]

You know, if a 308lb lineman can run the 40 in 4.65 I wonder if he will be converted TE instead? Can you imagine a nearly 310lb TE in the secondary?

[gatorr4life]

^^^ lol

[LimeyGator]

Reed ran a 4.62

NFL.com says 4.72, not 4.62.

That said, NFL.com has a nice write up on him:

Bottom Line
Reed ended the season on a low note after being benched in the Sugar Bowl for a poor attitude, but that should not cloud Reed's breakout season. The junior was forced to play inline at times, but he projects as a move or Joker tight end in the NFL due to his smoothness in space and natural catch and run abilities. Aaron Hernandez is a special player in the NFL, but the similarities between the two far exceed the college both attended.

[LimeyGator]

Nice article (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/192537891.html) from the Packers blog of the Milwaulkee-Wisconsin Journal Online on Xavier Nixon:

Growing up in Fayetteville, N.C. — near the military base, Fort Bragg — Nixon had two (literal) drill sergeants for parents. His now-retired father was a command sergeant major. His mother, still active, was a sergeant major. As both did lengthy tours in the Middle East, Nixon was forced to mature quickly.

This year, the tackle could be an option for the Packers in the middle rounds. Nixon said he has already met with Green Bay and that it went very well. Overall, he’s hoping a military background and a first love for basketball helps separate him from the pack. His childhood certainly was different.

[LimeyGator]

From what I can see:

Mike Gillislee ran a 4.50 unofficial. I believe that was joint 10th quickest. Not bad. His 10 yard split was further down the pack though.

He only benched 15 - that was lowest amongst RBs with Montee Ball.

I watched him in one drill for a catch in open space - he dropped a stinker of a catch that looked pretty casual. He then followed up with a better performance in the next few drills. Running smoothly on the routes and he made the catches well.

Hard to evaluate on so little viewing...

Onterio McCalebb of Auburn ran a 4.21 by the way! (EDIT that was unofficial... now a 4.34!)

[socraticsilence]

Are we not weight training anymore? Or does our new strength and conditioning focus hurt bench press reps?

[RayUF07]

Are we not weight training anymore? Or does our new strength and conditioning focus hurt bench press reps?

Everyone is different.

I remember people making a big deal because Kevin Durant couldn't do 1 rep. I laughed. Obviously, it's a different sport...but I don't think Gillislee doing 15 hurts anymore than doing 30.

An OL or DL? Sure, maybe a little bit.

I'd guess Gillislee raised his stock a bit with the 4.55. Not blazing but he needed to stay in the low to mid 4.5 range. Maybe hurt a tad with his pass catching, but he has enough on tape and in the senior bowl practices to counter that.

[gator1986]

The bench press doesn't mean much. Like I said its kind of sad that Reed didn't rep well, but it's not a big deal. What is he going to do? Fall down and bench press and offensive linemen away from the QB? Or catch the pass and rep it out? I understand they like for showing strength, and endurance with muscles, but it really doesn't prove anything. I weigh 190 I can rep 225, 25 times, one thing I can't do or do not have is the playmaking ability reed has, or his football instincts and IQ.

[sleeze]

Weird that Gilly did the lowest bench among RBs.

The guy is pretty ripped.

[busigator96]

Where is Sandcastle projected?

[GatorAlum_03]

Pretty sure that I saw Jelani Jenkins did 27 reps. That's nuts.

[kalaniocc]

Most ive done is 16 reps. Jelani is a monster

[yellowboy90]

I know this is not UF related but did Bray look huge to anyone else? The guy was like a stick at UT.

[gator1986]

I know this is not UF related but did Bray look huge to anyone else? The guy was like a stick at UT.

Like fat? Yes I thought so too! I didn't know if anyone else noticed

[Dreamliner]

The bench press doesn't mean much. Like I said its kind of sad that Reed didn't rep well, but it's not a big deal. What is he going to do? Fall down and bench press and offensive linemen away from the QB? Or catch the pass and rep it out? I understand they like for showing strength, and endurance with muscles, but it really doesn't prove anything. I weigh 190 I can rep 225, 25 times, one thing I can't do or do not have is the playmaking ability reed has, or his football instincts and IQ.

Thank you. Bench press is virtually useless as a measure of athletic performance. Recall that a number of our really big bench pressers never made plays for us.

[magnafides]

Floyd with a 4.87 in his 2nd run... insane for a guy his size.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

The bench press is a decent, standardized and useful measurement of strength for anyone doing a lot of pushing, ie o-line, d-line and sometimes TEs. It translates well to blocking.

[theologator]

The bench press is a decent, standardized and useful measurement of strength for anyone doing a lot of pushing, ie o-line, d-line and sometimes TEs. It translates well to blocking.

The question re: bench press is probably a matter of baseline strength & endurance for exactly that, rather than a measure of ability. An in-line blocking TE would be one thing, a Tony Gonzalez-style slot receiving TE another. 16 reps of 225 might be fine for the latter, but 5 wouldn't.

I'm sure that all gets balanced with speed, route running, etc.

My view of Reed is that he's an unpolished, slightly less complete TE of A-Hern's style. He strikes me as a bit more athletic but he's not as savvy, intense or nearly the blocker A-Hern was and is. He has potential, nice upside, but enough of a project to slide down to lower rounds. I hope he gets drafted into a situation that fits him.

The coaches always spoke highly of him for good reason. I did see wow moments.

[Dreamliner]

The bench press is a highly reliable measurement of the ability to press a barbell off one's chest. This cannot be overstated.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Which invokes much of the same muscles involved in pushing, or holding a force pushing against you.

Thus, it's likely the only valuable, quantifiable measurement of "blocking potential." And since the combine is about quantifying things, this should come as no surprise.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

The question re: bench press is probably a matter of baseline strength & endurance for exactly that, rather than a measure of ability. An in-line blocking TE would be one thing, a Tony Gonzalez-style slot receiving TE another. 16 reps of 225 might be fine for the latter, but 5 wouldn't.

Exactly. And it's generally why nobody cares if a QB or punter can't do more than 4 or 5 reps. But if you're on the o-line, d-line or are a blocking TE, it has a lot more relevance to your job on the field.

[theologator]

The bench press is a highly reliable measurement of the ability to press a barbell off one's chest. This cannot be overstated.

Years ago I was out with a friend who had had a bit too much to drink. He went off on a 30-minute rant about how bench pressing was BS and overrated - just in terms of working out in the gym. Just on and on, angry, no one else even tried to interrupt him. He gave a complete and cogent argument laced with profanity and hyperbole.

When he got done, he went silent for a full minute then said, "I'm going to f-ing break 300 if it f-ing kills me." I thought I would die laughing.

He did break 300. Also graduated UF Law & went on to a career in the FBI.

[magnafides]

I never played football, but it seems like blocking would be just as much a function of lower body strength as upper... do they do squats at the combine?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I never played football, but it seems like blocking would be just as much a function of lower body strength as upper... do they do squats at the combine?

It is absolutely, although if you look at the motion, the squat doesn't translate as well in the motion as the bench press does to pushing outward.

I think they used to do the squat and some other lifts, but have since stopped.

[gator1986]

Pushing somebody back on the line is more lower body strength, and core than upper body. If you don't have a great lower body, and high endurance with those muscles your useless, I have seen lots of great o linemen who have these short, FAT arms with basically no muscle definition, but with tree trunk legs, throw defensive linemen back. If they ask you to rep out 225 to me it seems they are just seeing how your muscle endurance is, and your push. But even bench press will not solidify their answers on if you can push back a linemen or not. I used to watch Trent Richardson's workouts, Pouncey twins, Starks, etc and almost all their upper body was lower weight and high rep, when it came to lower body squats, lounges, leg extensions, leg curls, etc etc etc... They would do lots of weight and low reps, because they needed that power from their lower body. It's like in baseball, most baseball players have 2x's the size of legs than arms, and upper body because your swing and your power is all in your lower body.

[GATORAZ]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Manti Te'o measured in at the Combine much smaller than expected at 241 (was listed this year at 255)

I have said it for awhile LSU's Minter is a better football player he is also bigger

[theologator]

Absolutely, and speed, technique, leverage, assignment discipline, etc. all play into it too. All pieces of a puzzle, some of which will surprise for better I'd worse later.

I marveled at RFN's speed of read & reaction. Yes he is fast and athletic, but he also got moving in the right direction instantly. Those reads have come a touch slower in the NFL for him, which has limited him somewhat.

The various training sites like IMG prepare these guys head to toe for the combine, which skews the evaluation measurements to a degree but also probably sharpens them a lot too.

[theologator]

Bruce Feldman ‏@BFeldmanCBS
Manti Te'o measured in at the Combine much smaller than expected at 241 (was listed this year at 255)

I have said it for awhile LSU's Minter is a better football player he is also bigger

I agree. Minter was the best LB I saw anywhere all year. His numbers are way better than Te'o on everything except INTs. LSU is losing a ton in this draft.

[GATORAZ]

OnlyGators.com ‏@onlygators
First unofficial 40-yard dash for Florida #Gators LB Jon Bostic at the #NFLCombine - 4.50 seconds.

[gator7_5]

Damn, that's blazing if the official is close to it..

[GATORAZ]

Damn, that's blazing if the official is close to it..

if it is close to being right he probably moves up a round

[GATORAZ]

it is going to be hard to replace Bostic and Jenkins

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Pushing somebody back on the line is more lower body strength, and core than upper body.

No doubt, but a squat and pushing forward are totally different movements, whereas a bench press is essentially the same movement as blocking from the upper body.

It's not a 1:1 but there isn't anything close in weight training. Maybe a weighted sled where you measure how far they can push in 10 seconds or something. It's tough to put that into a measurement, though.

[GATORAZ]

Bostic 2nd run unofficial 4.57

[GATORAZ]

My view of Reed is that he's an unpolished, slightly less complete TE of A-Hern's style. He strikes me as a bit more athletic but he's not as savvy, intense or nearly the blocker A-Hern was and is. He has potential, nice upside, but enough of a project to slide down to lower rounds. I hope he gets drafted into a situation that fits him.

The coaches always spoke highly of him for good reason. I did see wow moments.

Reed is not going to slide to the back of the draft. Nobody expected him to bench a lot. He wont be asked to block that much in the NFL

[GATORAZ]

I wish Jenkins was healthy enough to run at the combine

[StrangeGator]

OnlyGators.com ‏@onlygators
First unofficial 40-yard dash for Florida #Gators LB Jon Bostic at the #NFLCombine - 4.50 seconds.

Hope he can stay in that range on his subsequent runs. Wonder how Jenkins will do. He used to run in the mid 4.4 range in high school.

[GATORAZ]

Hope he can stay in that range on his subsequent runs. Wonder how Jenkins will do. He used to run in the mid 4.4 range in high school.

2nd run was unofficially a 4.57

[StrangeGator]

Weird that Gilly did the lowest bench among RBs.

The guy is pretty ripped.

He's probably been taking it pretty easy in the weight room and working more on his speed and agility. That said, he's never looked big in the upper body. For his weight, he looks narrow in the shoulders. I'm guessing most of his strength is in his core and legs. Surprised his VJ wasn't higher.

[GATORAZ]

They said Bostic looked real good in drills too

[orangeblueorangeblue]

2nd run was unofficially a 4.57

Damn. Impressive.

[giantgator09]

Gilly never was a burner or super explosive just a very tough runner. Surprised he benched so little tho.

Bostic is a monster athlete and I'm glad he ran like he did, he was running in the mid 4.4s hand-timed consistently in HS (I was usually mid 4.5s - very frustrating getting beat by someone who outweighs you by 50+ lbs haha).

[gator1986]

No doubt, but a squat and pushing forward are totally different movements, whereas a bench press is essentially the same movement as blocking from the upper body.

It's not a 1:1 but there isn't anything close in weight training. Maybe a weighted sled where you measure how far they can push in 10 seconds or something. It's tough to put that into a measurement, though.

Bench is a factor but the way I think of it is this, when I played football, when I was pushing someone back I could keep them close or extended with my arms and push them back. Your lower leg strength is that power that just simply motors, and pushes people back. It can go for almost every position in football, especially RB. If they didn't have monster legs, there would be no such thing as a power runner, it would be all finesse and speed. And as for bostic running the 4.5, I'm so glad for him. I have said it time an time again throughout the season he is one of the best LB's in this class, blows Manti Te'O out of the water. If the Bengals take him like some say they will be making a huge mistake, Jon Bostic is the real deal!

[GATORAZ]

Dion Caputi ‏@nfldraftupdate
#UF LB Jon Bostic has done as much as anyone to help himself today. A built athlete who's been pretty fluid in movement drills. Ran great.

[GATORAZ]

Bostic official 4.61 3rd best time

[gator1986]

So stoked for Bostic I knew he is one of the best. The NFL combine page has him rated as a 62.2 and Te'O as a 8.7?!? What a joke, Te'O ran a 4.80, Bostic ran a 4.6 and his "reps" since everyone makes a big deal of it was 22.... Someone will get a steal out of Bostic

[GATORAZ]

Bostic looks real good in drills so does Washington from UGA

[GATORAZ]

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[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

I heard the Honey Badger only put up 4 reps on the bench. lol

Also heard that Manti Te'o was slow. lol

[gator1986]

Yea he ran a 4.8, he sucks I hope he fails in the NFL actually I don't have to hope, he just will...

[tec68]

Are we not weight training anymore? Or does our new strength and conditioning focus hurt bench press reps?

RB is probably the position that the bench press reps matter the least. Well QB and K too lol

[tec68]

Thank you. Bench press is virtually useless as a measure of athletic performance. Recall that a number of our really big bench pressers never made plays for us.

Aside from Hunter Joyer and Tebow off the top of my head they could bench like 500lbs coming out of high school or something crazy.

[tec68]

Oh and guys I believe leverage and technique are the main things when blocking. 99.9% of the time low man with feet square wins. Unless there is a huge difference in size or strength.

Explode off the ball, stay low, punch the chest, and drive your man into the ground.

T'was my philosophy lol

Just a funny story IMO

I was 5'8 215lb RG and was up against someone(I honestly think it was a girl lol) who was literally 6'5 300+ but I was the low man/woman lol and I was kicking her butt all night until she just started laying on me which was fine because she couldn't stop our play but it hurts getting sat on by someone that big.

Anyways in the league there are no differences that big lol. Technique is the key.

[yellowboy90]

4.8 is plenty fast for an inside LB. Spikes barley broke 5.0 buy he gets it done. I have not watch Teo much but if he has good insticts and strength he could get it done.


Proud of Bostic and happy Jelani Benched well. Very surprised though that Jenkins and Bostic measured so closely with their height and weight.

[NorthCaptivaGator]

4.8 is plenty fast for an inside LB. Spikes barley broke 5.0 buy he gets it done. I have not watch Teo much but if he has good insticts and strength he could get it done.

Proud of Bostic and happy Jelani Benched well. Very surprised though that Jenkins and Bostic measured so closely with their height and weight.

This is why the combine is so ridiculous, Bosstick has always been a guy who looked the part but just never made a whole lot of plays while Spikes may not measure well but typically finds the ball. I wish Bostik well but he really under performed at Florida at least until his senior year and even then he wasn't off the charts like Crowder, Siler or Spikes

[Bryan85]

Everybody needs to lay off Teo. Remember, his girlfriend just died.

[tec68]

So Cornelius Washington LB from Georgia

1st best 36 reps 225lbs on bench. 2nd best on this was 29!!!!!!!!
2nd best 4.55 40 yard dash
2nd best 39 inch vert
3rd best 128 inch/10ft 8 inch broad jump

Wow you think his stock is rising? How good was he on the field? Must have been overshadowed by Ogletree and Jones.

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[haddon]

Bostic official 4.61 3rd best time

is that 3rd best among ILB's or all LB's?

[tec68]

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That is funny

[gatordee]

Yea he ran a 4.8, he sucks I hope he fails in the NFL actually I don't have to hope, he just will...

I agree. He was exposed by Bama and will be exposed in the NFL. He would be average at best in the SEC.

[GATORAZ]

Yea he ran a 4.8, he sucks I hope he fails in the NFL actually I don't have to hope, he just will...

why do you hope he fails?

[StrangeGator]

I agree. He was exposed by Bama and will be exposed in the NFL. He would be average at best in the SEC.

Not because of his speed. That's probably better average than average speed for LBs in the NFL. Spikes is an exceptional LB and his 40 time at the combine was about the same as Sharrif Floyd's.

[DSRrg]

Someone help me out here. If you go to the NFL.com/combine website, the picture of jelani is wrong right? It looks nothing like him unless he grew out ridiculously long dreads.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Yea he ran a 4.8, he sucks I hope he fails in the NFL actually I don't have to hope, he just will...

Come on, man. That's horrible.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

it is going to be hard to replace Bostic and Jenkins

I don't agree. We were just fine without Jenkins for the better part of last season, and Bostic was nothing special. He was good, but we've had better middle linebackers. He was never a great pass rusher, and he just lacked the big plays we've gotten from other guys at the position.

I think Floyd, Elam and Hunter are bigger losses than Bostic.

[StrangeGator]

This is why the combine is so ridiculous, Bosstick has always been a guy who looked the part but just never made a whole lot of plays while Spikes may not measure well but typically finds the ball. I wish Bostik well but he really under performed at Florida at least until his senior year and even then he wasn't off the charts like Crowder, Siler or Spikes

I wouldn't say Bostic underperformed. He was not as highly rated as Spikes to begin with and had never played LB until he got to UF. He was a safety. It took him a while to get used to playing that close to the LOS. He was used to reading and reacting from much further back. Was probably never ideally suited to play inside at UF. He was there by default. I thought he had a terrific senior year.

I suspect he'll play outside at the next level. Not sure if he's big enough to play in a 3-4, but he's certainly fast enough. I'd draft him in a heartbeat in the third or fourth round. He'll be a starter by his second season.

[GATORAZ]

I don't agree. We were just fine without Jenkins for the better part of last season, and Bostic was nothing special. He was good, but we've had better middle linebackers. He was never a great pass rusher, and he just lacked the big plays we've gotten from other guys at the position.

I think Floyd, Elam and Hunter are bigger losses than Bostic.

I disagree with you. Jenkins played in the big games and is really good in coverage. Bostic played great last year. We might have had better LB's in the past but we dont have anybody that was going to play on that level next year. He is a MLB why would you worry about his pass rushing ability? I thought he made a lot of plays last year I think CWM would agree he said he didnt think there was a better MLB in the country at the end of the year.

The problem is we are so young at the LB position losing Bostic and Jenkins is a lot of experience and talent. You are talking about two guys that will probably be starting in the NFL next year.

Floyd was a monster but Florida should have the best Dline in the SEC next year.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I disagree with you. Jenkins played in the big games and is really good in coverage. Bostic played great last year. We might have had better LB's in the past but we dont have anybody that was going to play on that level next year. He is a MLB why would you worry about his pass rushing ability? I thought he made a lot of plays last year I think CWM would agree he said he didnt think there was a better MLB in the country at the end of the year.

The problem is we are so young at the LB position losing Bostic and Jenkins is a lot of experience and talent. You are talking about two guys that will probably be starting in the NFL next year.

Floyd was a monster but Florida should have the best Dline in the SEC next year.

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

[gator1986]

why do you hope he fails?

Cause he's a liar and I don't like him... Why do you hope he succeeds?

[socraticsilence]

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

Your opinion for next year is basically that everyone we lost was okay but we're better off.

[gator1986]

I agree. He was exposed by Bama and will be exposed in the NFL. He would be average at best in the SEC.

Thank you!

[gator1986]

Come on, man. That's horrible.

What I'm not going to sit here and wish everyone luck in the NFL. Everyone's dislikes someone that plays in each sport. Te'O is my new for the NFL, other than Mark Sanchez, or Rex Ryan

[tec68]

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

I would not draft Manti in the first 2 rounds. Kid was really good to great at ND but would have been average to good in the SEC. Bostic and Manti might be about the same right now. Bostic had experience against bigger, better players throughout his career.

I also didn't see anyone say Bostic is better than Minter. That's just crazy talk lol

[keefer]

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

I agree NBB. Very few times did we see Jenkins or Bostic shed a blocker and step into the hole to nail a RB. Both were decent in coverage, but VERY average as run stoppers. No where near the class of some of the good LB'ers we've had. But hey, that's JMO and I wish both of them nothing but the best. I hope they both have outstanding NFL careers.

[GATORAZ]

Cause he's a liar and I don't like him... Why do you hope he succeeds?

so do you hope everyone in the NFL fails ? They all Lie. I don't wish failure on people.

[GATORAZ]

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.

Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.

You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year

[sleeze]

Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.

Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.

Have to agree with you....Bostic was maybe a slightly above average SEC LB. Jelani was fast and his biggest asset was he could cover the RBs or athletic tightends.

I think Adam Morrison is gonna be the next great Gator LB. He was out of position a few times last year. But with a year under his belt he is destined to be great.

I could easily see Mike Taylor or one of the other guys playing as good as Bostic has played.

Bostic has played average throughout his career...with just a slightly above average SR year.

[GATORAZ]

Have to agree with you....Bostic was maybe a slightly above average SEC LB. Jelani was fast and his biggest asset was he could cover the RBs or athletic tightends.

I think Adam Morrison is gonna be the next great Gator LB. He was out of position a few times last year. But with a year under his belt he is destined to be great.

I could easily see Mike Taylor or one of the other guys playing as good as Bostic has played.

Bostic has played average throughout his career...with just a slightly above average SR year.

Mike Taylor you cant be serious

[sleeze]

I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.

Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.

You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year

That Freshman Morrison was showing those seniors Jenkins and Bostic how a LB should lay a lick last year.

[GATORAZ]

That Freshman Morrison was showing those seniors Jenkins and Bostic how a LB should lay a lick last year.

I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at

[sleeze]

Mike Taylor you cant be serious

why not

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.

Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.

You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year

You thought that I was serious when I said that? Or when I was making the comments about the Jessies and Joes? Or when I said Purifoy was going to be All-SEC as a receiver?

Well good. I'll play around like that everytime we discuss how we'll be at a position in the middle of February, just to prove a point.

[GATORAZ]

why not

he is terrible in coverage and in space in general.

[sleeze]

I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at

Not the athlete? He fooled me last year. A freshman was there making a play waaay before Jenkins or Bostic was or would have been.

[tec68]

I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at

I agree. Morrison could be a star but I'm not sure he can play every down of every game in the SEC if he doesn't add weight. Which I'm sure the coaches are already on. Bostic did play very well this year, he was a key.

Its also key that we are losing a leader on D. Bostic was a team leader.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

You thought that I was serious when I said that? Or when I was making the comments about the Jessies and Joes? Or when I said Purifoy was going to be All-SEC as a receiver?

Uhhhh ...

[GATORAZ]

I agree. Morrison could be a star but I'm not sure he can play every down of every game in the SEC if he doesn't add weight. Which I'm sure the coaches are already on. Bostic did play very well this year, he was a key.

Its also key that we are losing a leader on D. Bostic was a team leader.

Yeah I am not sure Morrison will make it through the season next year if he doesn't add 15lbs before the season starts. There is going to be a drop off when a true sophomore is going to be your most experienced LB on the field.

[sleeze]

he is terrible in coverage and in space in general.

I really dont think we have seen that much of him to say he is not any good in space.

Even so,,,,i think he will be better at the point of attack or one of the more so than Bostic

[GatorAvatar]

Bostic and Jenkins were studs. We will see how valuable they were to the D this coming season.

[GATORAZ]

I really dont think we have seen that much of him to say he is not any good in space.

Even so,,,,i think he will be better at the point of attack more so than Bostic.

I think we have seen plenty of him to say that he is terrible in coverage and the staff realizes it too. There is a reason Morrison past him on the depth chart and he only came in the game when the team was near our red zone. He is good at the point of attack but he is just a huge liability in space.

[gator1986]

so do you hope everyone in the NFL fails ? They all Lie. I don't wish failure on people.

Where do you get everyone in the NFL? I said Manti Te'O yea I hope he does, him and Sanchez and Sanchez is already on his way out and I'm glad. They're all cocky and arrogant, but these two take the cake and all the media hype they get/got is just annoying... So only two for me, I don't often wish it, actually almost never but these two yes.

[sleeze]

I think we have seen plenty of him to say that he is terrible in coverage and the staff realizes it too. There is a reason Morrison past him on the depth chart and he only came in the game when the team was near our red zone. He is good at the point of attack but he is just a huge liability in space.

Well if our D line is gonna be the best in the country like u say.... Then i have no worries of who plays at LB.

[GATORAZ]

Where do you get everyone in the NFL? I said Manti Te'O yea I hope he does, him and Sanchez and Sanchez is already on his way out and I'm glad. They're all cocky and arrogant, but these two take the cake and all the media hype they get/got is just annoying... So only two for me, I don't often wish it, actually almost never but these two yes.

Both seem pretty humble to me. Teo did get a lot of media hype.

[Sylez_G_Koolaid]

U see that Leon Sandcastle run? He was a boss, bro!

[Tebowism0823]

Both seem pretty humble to me. Teo did get a lot of media hype.

3 peas in a pod

[gator1986]

Both seem pretty humble to me. Teo did get a lot of media hype.

Sanchez was the next big thing and he actually believed it. There's always a USC, QB who is the next big thing. Wait a minute, maybe my hatred for Sanchez stems from my hatred for USC. Lots of reporters talk about sanchez's arrogance.

[DSRrg]

I love how they show manti do every evolution about 3 times but nothing for Bostic. They keep saying how great he's doing but they never show him.

[Jaggator]

Gillislee

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[Jaggator]

Floyd

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[Jaggator]

Reed

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[Jaggator]

Bostic

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[MadduxFanII]

Floyd

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A world class athlete, ladies and gentlemen.

[socraticsilence]

Not the athlete? He fooled me last year. A freshman was there making a play waaay before Jenkins or Bostic was or would have been.

He's smart and has good instincts but lacks the physical upside and ceiling Bostic and Jenkins had-- it's not a knock its just a fact.

[UFreak]

He's smart and has good instincts but lacks the physical upside and ceiling Bostic and Jenkins had-- it's not a knock its just a fact.

I have to disagree with you on this. As a freshman, Morrison showed much more on the field potential than either Jenkins or Bostic. Like you often hear, I expect Morrison to make that big leap that players often make from freshman to sophomore year. Don't be surprised if he is 15 pounds heavier in the fall. He is scary quick and super instinctive. Barring injury, Morrison will be better than Bostic or Jenkins. The guy has it. He is a baller and is in that 4.7 range. I expect him to be an All-America his junior year.

[sleeze]

He's smart and has good instincts but lacks the physical upside and ceiling Bostic and Jenkins had-- it's not a knock its just a fact.

Physical upside? He was a freshman!

Let Dillman help him a little.

You or me dont know whether he can put some weight on or not.

[UFreak]

Physical upside? He was a freshman!

Let Dillman help him a little.

You or me dont know whether he can put some weight on or not.

I can assure, he will put on weight. I assure you he will. He was a freshman.

[sleeze]

I have to disagree with you on this. As a freshman, Morrison showed much more on the field potential than either Jenkins or Bostic. Like you often hear, I expect Morrison to make that big leap that players often make from freshman to sophomore year. Don't be surprised if he is 15 pounds heavier in the fall. He is scary quick and super instinctive. Barring injury, Morrison will be better than Bostic or Jenkins. The guy has it. He is a baller and is in that 4.7 range. I expect him to be an All-America his junior year.

You sir......u get it.

Like u said.....Morrison has that "it" factor....you just know it after a few plays. If his head stays in it he is the next great LB.

[theologator]

I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.

Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.

You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year

I worry about MLB as much because of the uncertainty at DT as the guys stepping in. IF we see a solid 4+ rotation at DT it will free the MLB to make plays. If they struggle the MLB will spend each game peeling OL off themselves.

Up the middle if if if at DT MLB & S. All could be fine. Or soft.

[GATORAZ]

I worry about MLB as much because of the uncertainty at DT as the guys stepping in. IF we see a solid 4+ rotation at DT it will free the MLB to make plays. If they struggle the MLB will spend each game peeling OL off themselves.

Up the middle if if if at DT MLB & S. All could be fine. Or soft.

I think we are fine at DT. Orr Easley Jacobs Q Willaims Cummings and Reed. I been watching some tape of Floyd so watching tape on the other guys as well. I think Easley needs to gain a little more weight if his frame allows it.

LB is a huge question make because of youth. Morrison has to gain weight or he wont last the season. If Morrison goes down we are looking at starting true freshmen

[yellowboy90]

Just because Morrison could lay some big hits it doesn't mean he was playing great. He over ran a lot of plays, he sucked in coverage most times, and got swallowed by Olineman at times. Yes, he was a freshman but let's not go over board.

Let him actually play a year.. I remember Will Hill was supposed to be better than Major Wright and Ahmad Black. Players flash talent all the time but few can display that talent all the time. Hopefully Morrison eventually does.

[yellowboy90]

I think we are fine at DT. Orr Easley Jacobs Q Willaims Cummings and Reed. I been watching some tape of Floyd so watching tape on the other guys as well. I think Easley needs to gain a little more weight if his frame allows it.

LB is a huge question make because of youth. Morrison has to gain weight or he wont last the season. If Morrison goes down we are looking at starting true freshmen

I am sure Morrison will gain strength and weight. He is probably bigger than we think. Also, I am interested how Easley will play with a full years recovery from an ACL. People talk about Peterson but Easley came back fast too.

[int1974]

Morrison will be a stud for us .Ball should be better with a year under him now. Taylor and Kitchen are should be better, still a little short at LB. Need McMillian and 1 more freshman to step up. Maybe Cox to MLB.

If Fowler and bullard are going to be our DE I still think Powell could play OLB/MLB for us.

[GATORAZ]

Morrison will be a stud for us .Ball should be better with a year under him now. Taylor and Kitchen are should be better, still a little short at LB. Need McMillian and 1 more freshman to step up. Maybe Cox to MLB.

If Fowler and bullard are going to be our DE I still think Powell could play OLB/MLB for us.

People have to stop with the Powell to MLB it is not going to happen. Cox isnt playing MLB either.

[GATORAZ]

Just because Morrison could lay some big hits it doesn't mean he was playing great. He over ran a lot of plays, he sucked in coverage most times, and got swallowed by Olineman at times. Yes, he was a freshman but let's not go over board.

Let him actually play a year.. I remember Will Hill was supposed to be better than Major Wright and Ahmad Black. Players flash talent all the time but few can display that talent all the time. Hopefully Morrison eventually does.
Morrison wasnt great on outside runs and neither were the corner backs Josh Evans saved us so many times cleaning up there mess. I expect Morrison to make a big jump next year but he needs to because he has a long way to go. People see a few big hits and assume he is playing lights out. I remember people thinking the same thing about Mike Taylor a few years ago.

[Dreamliner]

Just because Morrison could lay some big hits it doesn't mean he was playing great. He over ran a lot of plays, he sucked in coverage most times, and got swallowed by Olineman at times. Yes, he was a freshman but let's not go over board.

Let him actually play a year.. I remember Will Hill was supposed to be better than Major Wright and Ahmad Black. Players flash talent all the time but few can display that talent all the time. Hopefully Morrison eventually does.

Everything you're saying about Morrison here was also true of Jelani Jenkins early-on. Give the kid a freaking chance.

[dawny]

Morris/AA will be 230 by spring,he has football IQ and a big Gator heart.

[PSGator66]

Nixon at 321! What the hell! He must have gained 20 pounds since the end of the season. Hope he does well in the NFL.

[Nicho]

Just because Morrison could lay some big hits it doesn't mean he was playing great. He over ran a lot of plays, he sucked in coverage most times, and got swallowed by Olineman at times. Yes, he was a freshman but let's not go over board.

Let him actually play a year.. I remember Will Hill was supposed to be better than Major Wright and Ahmad Black. Players flash talent all the time but few can display that talent all the time. Hopefully Morrison eventually does.

He had as much of a positive impact as one can expect from a true freshman LB. Your take is extremely pessimistic and unreasonable.

[UFreak]

Morrison will be a star. He has the ability to make himself a tough target for blockers. He slips blocks and makes plays. Siler was very good at this as was Tim Paulk and Spikes. The guy is going to make a lot of plays for us this year. He understands timing and leverage. The guy is a natural.

[theologator]

Uhhhh ...

Kelvin is the closest UF has come to recruiting an Enmitt - level RB since his daddy.

I won't be surprised if he becomes lightning to Jones' thunder.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Yeah that's not what I meant.

[tec68]

Kelvin is the closest UF has come to recruiting an Enmitt - level RB since his daddy.

I won't be surprised if he becomes lightning to Jones' thunder.

That is not a very good analogy. Kelvin is no "lightning" to anyones "thunder"

Kelvin waits on blocks to set up, hits the hole hard, has ridiculous cutting ability, and will not go down on first contact quite often. Aside from his agility there is no lighting there. He wont outrun people but we don't need him to do that.

I would prefer a RB that gets 40 20 yard runs to one that gets 5 80 yard runs.

[int1974]

Bostic Career
236 tackles 7.5 sacks 5 int
Spikes
200 tackles 1 sack 1 int

[UFreak]

Bostic Career
236 tackles 7.5 sacks 5 int
Spikes
200 tackles 1 sack 1 int

Brandon Spikes college stats off Gatorzone. Those stats you have are pro stats off wiki.

Appeared in 47 games with 39 starts at linebacker...Collected 307 total tackles (178 solo) in his career...Registered 31.5 tackles for loss, including 6.5 QB sacks...Forced two fumbles, recovered four fumbles and had six interceptions which he returned for 139 yards and four touchdowns...Totaled four touchdown returns off interceptions from 2008-09, more than any other player in the nation and a Florida school record for interception touchdowns in a career...Since 1996, he is one of only three linebackers in the nation to have four interceptions returned for touchdowns...Invited to participate in the 2010 NFL Combine.

[Nicho]

Brandon Spikes college stats off Gatorzone. Those stats you have are pro stats off wiki.

Appeared in 47 games with 39 starts at linebacker...Collected 307 total tackles (178 solo) in his career...Registered 31.5 tackles for loss, including 6.5 QB sacks...Forced two fumbles, recovered four fumbles and had six interceptions which he returned for 139 yards and four touchdowns...Totaled four touchdown returns off interceptions from 2008-09, more than any other player in the nation and a Florida school record for interception touchdowns in a career...Since 1996, he is one of only three linebackers in the nation to have four interceptions returned for touchdowns...Invited to participate in the 2010 NFL Combine.

And one punt. :)

[gator7_5]

Brandon Spikes college stats off Gatorzone. Those stats you have are pro stats off wiki.

Appeared in 47 games with 39 starts at linebacker...Collected 307 total tackles (178 solo) in his career...Registered 31.5 tackles for loss, including 6.5 QB sacks...Forced two fumbles, recovered four fumbles and had six interceptions which he returned for 139 yards and four touchdowns...Totaled four touchdown returns off interceptions from 2008-09, more than any other player in the nation and a Florida school record for interception touchdowns in a career...Since 1996, he is one of only three linebackers in the nation to have four interceptions returned for touchdowns...Invited to participate in the 2010 NFL Combine.

Yeah, I was about to say, he had at least 3 INT's for TD's that I remember.

[ValdostaGatorFan]

And one punt. :)

And One hell of a punt it was, I must say

[dakcman]

Bostic is getting railed here for some reason. He was a solid LB and have a great senior season. He's going to be even better in the pros. He fits perfect inside in the 3-4. Floyd, Elam, and Bostic will all be great at the next level. I think Jelani will be a situational player. He's got great speed and athleticism but he's undersized. I could see him as a rush-backer or in coverage situations. I'm not as high on Reed as some others. He's athletic and has potential but I don't think he runs great routes and he doesn't have the best hands. I like a lot of TEs in this draft more than Reed.

[GATORAZ]

Matt Elam
Height: 5’9 7/8″ | Weight: 208 lbs.
Arm length: 32 5/8″ | Hand size: 9″

40-yard dash: 4.54 seconds (fifth-fastest)
Vertical jump: 35.5″ | Broad jump: 118.0″
Bench press: 17 reps of 225 lbs.

Josh Evans
Height: 6’1 1/8″ | Weight: 207 lbs.
Arm length: 31 7/8″ | Hand size: 10″

40-yard dash: 4.58 seconds (eighth-fastest)
Vertical jump: 34.5″ | Broad jump: 123.0″ (ninth-longest)
Bench press: Did not participate (elbow)

[slayerxing]

Florida will be hurting at mlb for 2013. Its probably the weakest position on the defense heading into 2013 on D. UF will certainly miss bostic and jenkins. I promise.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Yeah that's not what I meant.

It's okay, man. You got duped. If you really thought I was stupid enough to think that Jessies and Joes applied to schematics and coaching, then I apologize for putting more effort into that than I probably should've. It's not a big deal.

As for Bostic: Regardless of what the stats say, he was not the playmaker in the middle that Spikes and Siler were. Those two were key pieces of championship teams, and they both made game-changing plays that seemed to set the tone for big games. I'm sure there is a poster or two who will argue that he was, that he'll be missed, and that we're in big trouble at the MLB position, but I think Morrison will do well there with about 10-15 extra lbs of added weight in the offseason.

Jenkins, on the other hand, missed half the season. Our defense was fantastic against A&M without him, and I think we've got options to fill in for both he and Bostic. Defensive tackle is a different story...

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Kelvin is the closest UF has come to recruiting an Enmitt - level RB since his daddy.

I won't be surprised if he becomes lightning to Jones' thunder.

What's funny, is you can do this in almost any thread. With pretty much any topic. And three or four of them won't ever realize...it's all just an act.

I've gotta give it time to cool off. Stay tuned, as I've got some good ones planned for the coming months.

[GATORAZ]

It's okay, man. You got duped. If you really thought I was stupid enough to think that Jessies and Joes applied to schematics and coaching, then I apologize for putting more effort into that than I probably should've. It's not a big deal.

As for Bostic: Regardless of what the stats say, he was not the playmaker in the middle that Spikes and Siler were. Those two were key pieces of championship teams, and they both made game-changing plays that seemed to set the tone for big games. I'm sure there is a poster or two who will argue that he was, that he'll be missed, and that we're in big trouble at the MLB position, but I think Morrison will do well there with about 10-15 extra lbs of added weight in the offseason.

Jenkins, on the other hand, missed half the season. Our defense was fantastic against A&M without him, and I think we've got options to fill in for both he and Bostic. Defensive tackle is a different story...

Saying who was an who wasn't a playmaker is a matter of opinion really. The stats would back up Bostic was just as big of a playmaker as Spikes. Look how good are defense was this year Bostic was the leader of that unit .

The options on the Dline are much better than the options at LB IMO. Morrison has still yet to add that weight needed and who is behind him. Who is going to cover as good as Jenkins at LB?

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Saying who was an who wasn't a playmaker is a matter of opinion really. The stats would back up Bostic was just as big of a playmaker as Spikes. Look how good are defense was this year Bostic was the leader of that unit .

The options on the Dline are much better than the options at LB IMO. Morrison has still yet to add that weight needed and who is behind him. Who is going to cover as good as Jenkins at LB?

You're right. We're completely screwed at linebacker.

[GATORAZ]

You're right. We're completely screwed at linebacker.

I never said we were screwed at LB it is just an unknown and very young.
The Dline however a known and it should be one of the best units in the country.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I never said we were screwed at LB it is just an unknown and very young.
The Dline however a known and it should be one of the best units in the country.

What about your boy, Jeremi Powell? Aren't you always barkin' about how much the staff raves about his ability? Isn't he an option on the weakside, a position that requires a player to be at least competent in coverage? Is it inconceivable to think that maybe McMillian and/or Anzalone might just be good enough-particularly being EEs-to at least contribute in the middle? All of our LBs can run.

I'm not sold that our defensive line will be "the best in the SEC" after losing two NFL defensive tackles. I've never heard such a bold statement. Leon Orr has had one good game (where he recorded a whopping four tackles) against Kentucky in his career. Nobody knows how good Cummings and Reed will be. Jacobs did little more than provide depth. Our best defensive tackle (Diesel Dom) spent a good part of last season at end. But maybe I'm missing something.

[GATORAZ]

What about your boy, Jeremi Powell? Aren't you always barkin' about how much the staff raves about his ability? Isn't he an option on the weakside, a position that requires a player to be at least competent in coverage? Is it inconceivable to think that maybe McMillian and/or Anzalone might just be good enough-particularly being EEs-to at least contribute in the middle? All of our LBs can run.

I'm not sold that our defensive line will be "the best in the SEC" after losing two NFL defensive tackles. I've never heard such a bold statement. Leon Orr has had one good game (where he recorded a whopping four tackles) against Kentucky in his career. Nobody knows how good Cummings and Reed will be. Jacobs did little more than provide depth. Our best defensive tackle (Diesel Dom) spent a good part of last season at end. But maybe I'm missing something.

LB- We are going to start a true sophomore in the middle that even if he gains 10lbs is too lite for the position. Last year he was out of position a lot, he was just running around. I expect him to be much better this year but the weight thing is still a problem. His back up Taylor cant cover period.

The other LB will be Neron Ball replacing Jenkins. Ball has a ton of talent but still getting back from a tragic injury. Ball got torched in coverage vs Louisville.

Who are those guys back ups? J powell who needs to add weight and two freshmen one of which played football in Pennsylvania and has terrible tackle form (he will be great in coverage). I love their potential but that is a lot of question marks.


DL- Bullard will start at SSDE he played well last year getting on campus late he will be a stud next year. At the BUCK we have Fowler and Ropo when he is ready, Mccalister if his weight is up (J powell situation)

DT- Easley Orr Jacobs all played well last year. Orr should def be able to replace Hunter and Easley is not FLoyd but he is a nice replacement. Jacobs was more than serviceable. IMO both Cummings and Reed are better players coming out of JUCO than Jacobs. Lets not forget Q Williams should be ready to contribute. The real unknown is EE Ivey who is already up to 267.

Nobody in the SEC has a better combination of talent that has played plus JUCO players on the Dline than Florida.

LB's we are relying on youth and the Dline we are relying on upperclassmen

[sleeze]

So basically,,,Jenkins and Bostic will be missed but Shariff and Hunter wont be......riiiiggghhht.

We know Easley is good..Jacobs played well as a backup. Again as a backup...but he has to step up his game to match what Hunter did....Orr hasnt impressed me at all at this point.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

LB- We are going to start a true sophomore in the middle that even if he gains 10lbs is too lite for the position. Last year he was out of position a lot, he was just running around. I expect him to be much better this year but the weight thing is still a problem. His back up Taylor cant cover period.

The other LB will be Neron Ball replacing Jenkins. Ball has a ton of talent but still getting back from a tragic injury. Ball got torched in coverage vs Louisville.

Who are those guys back ups? J powell who needs to add weight and two freshmen one of which played football in Pennsylvania and has terrible tackle form (he will be great in coverage). I love their potential but that is a lot of question marks.


DL- Bullard will start at SSDE he played well last year getting on campus late he will be a stud next year. At the BUCK we have Fowler and Ropo when he is ready, Mccalister if his weight is up (J powell situation)

DT- Easley Orr Jacobs all played well last year. Orr should def be able to replace Hunter and Easley is not FLoyd but he is a nice replacement. Jacobs was more than serviceable. IMO both Cummings and Reed are better players coming out of JUCO than Jacobs. Lets not forget Q Williams should be ready to contribute. The real unknown is EE Ivey who is already up to 267.

Nobody in the SEC has a better combination of talent that has played plus JUCO players on the Dline than Florida.

LB's we are relying on youth and the Dline we are relying on upperclassmen

My friend, it sounds like you're banking on a whole lot of upside to translate into production. The casual SEC fan (who doesn't follow recruiting) has probably never heard of Bullard. He played well, but wasn't lights out as a freshman. Orr has done nothing up to this point in his career. I think you are exaggerating the impact Jacobs had, and we have no idea how good Cummings and Reed are. The casual SEC fan may have heard about Easley, but he hasn't been anywhere near as good as Floyd has been, and he's been inconsistent at times in big games.

The upside is there, but keep in mind that Georgia, LSU, 'Bama, South Carolina, etc...have all recruited extremely well across the Dline. Carolina actually returns Quarles and Clowney, two extremely good, extremely proven players. Whoever does the best job of developing their talent this offseason will field the best defensive line. It's not like other schools don't have high-profile recruits "waiting in the wings".

Ball is actually a SAM 'backer, who is more seasoned as a pass rusher than as a pure linebacker. The kid was back last year after missing an entire season due to injury. He actually was listed as a DE coming out of high school, so he's still grasping the position. I doubt he-like Mike Taylor-has yet to even start to come into his own as a LB. You keep bashing these kids' pass coverage skills, and are acting like players don't develop over the course of a four-five year career. You know, players can get better in certain aspects of the game.

[GATORAZ]

I dont care about the casual SEC fan thinks. Easley played well as a sophomore inside and played his best game at in the bowl game once he was healthy Do you realize what those other teams lost last year on the Dline? What about their depth?

I am not over estimating how Orr and Jacobs played last year they gave quality snaps thats what you want out of your back ups.

Bullard was first team all freshmen SEC Bullard played starters snaps on one of the best Dlines in the country last year without going through a year of S & C.

I know what Ball played last year. Quinn said that Ball was changing positions before he left. If Ball isnt changing positions then we are relying on a freshmen to start a LB in the SEC. You think that is better than a bunch of veterans on the Dline?

You think Taylor is going to miraculously get better in coverage? He is stiff and just bad in space.

[int1974]

Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.


I've actually said that before. Anyway, we're in the nickel 70% of the time. When a fifth DB takes the field, you generally leave your MLB and the SAM (to help in run support) on the field, along with the nickel. The bigger question might be who will be the fifth DB.

Muschamp wants safeties who are big and physical enough to play in the box, and be a factor against the run. Much like Elam was, I think guys like Ledbetter, Maye, Neal and Harris can give you that. Elam was more effective in the box, against the run, than a lot of linebackers were. He was also good at blitzing.

Our supposed problems at linebacker really aren't that big of a deal, when you factor in what we like to defensively. This staff will continue to play to its personnel.

[Gatorphenom]

Matt Elam
Height: 5’9 7/8″ | Weight: 208 lbs.
Arm length: 32 5/8″ | Hand size: 9″

40-yard dash: 4.54 seconds (fifth-fastest)
Vertical jump: 35.5″ | Broad jump: 118.0″
Bench press: 17 reps of 225 lbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREjDTpTedE

[GATORAZ]

Maybe we play a lot of 4-2-5 if we are stack at DB and not so much at LB.

We do play a lot of nickle. Thats what formation I was thinking of the whole discussion. The LB position is still a unknown.

[theologator]

I dont care about the casual SEC fan thinks. Easley played well as a sophomore inside and played his best game at in the bowl game once he was healthy Do you realize what those other teams lost last year on the Dline? What about their depth?

I am not over estimating how Orr and Jacobs played last year they gave quality snaps thats what you want out of your back ups.

Bullard was first team all freshmen SEC Bullard played starters snaps on one of the best Dlines in the country last year without going through a year of S & C.

I know what Ball played last year. Quinn said that Ball was changing positions before he left. If Ball isnt changing positions then we are relying on a freshmen to start a LB in the SEC. You think that is better than a bunch of veterans on the Dline?

You think Taylor is going to miraculously get better in coverage? He is stiff and just bad in space.

I'm worried about youth & inexperience in the middle - DT => LB => S. Of those positions, DT has the most returning. I don't want to rely too much on the JuCo guys, but I don't think they will.

I'll disagree a bit on Orr. He was an effective part of the rotation. Easley can be dominant if/when he is absolutely healed & confident with his crazy fast first step. He's not unlike RayMac at this point of his career - superb in spots but inconsistent. I don't think it's at all a stretch to expect a memorable year from him and a solid DT rotation.

Safety? Goodness I have to think there will be 2-4 guys who will step up and step in. Will any be as crazy good as Elam? Maybe, but you can't get experience except by getting experience.

LB is the big question. Whoever steps in.