View Full Version : US CEO calls French lazy union workers who talk too much.
PSGator66
02-21-2013, 01:31 PM
The same can be said for the US union workers.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/20/u-s-ceo-goes-off-on-frances-work-ethic-in-epic-letter-lazy-workers-who-talk-too-much/
geauxgator1
02-21-2013, 03:21 PM
Grizz is certainly no diplomat, and pulls no punches. Good that he let them know how he feels about their work force. No wonder France is in the condition it is. Their workers won't work so they are stealing from the Depardieu's to pay for their social programs. Looks like the wealthy have had enough so they are splitting.
brainstorm
02-21-2013, 03:50 PM
I knew someone who had to promote an event in Paris for several years. He was forced to work with French union members. He said the French did very little work, took numerous smoking breaks - as a group - and had a bad attitude. I am not sure this is due to unionization either.
I hired a moving company once and they had a couple of frenchmen on their team. They were the sorriest workers I had ever experienced. And their attitude sucked.
Anecdotal for sure. But, my experience agrees with Grizz.
orangeblueorangeblue
02-21-2013, 03:54 PM
I knew someone who had to promote an event in Paris for several years. He was forced to work with French union members. He said the French did very little work, took numerous smoking breaks - as a group - and had a bad attitude. I am not sure this is due to unionization either.
I hired a moving company once and they had a couple of frenchmen on their team. They were the sorriest workers I had ever experienced. And their attitude sucked.
Anecdotal for sure. But, my experience agrees with Grizz.
And this is how Chinese workers talk about Americans.
Lawdog88
02-21-2013, 03:56 PM
And this is how Chinese workers talk about Americans.
I have worked in China with Chinese workers in a heavy industrial setting.
Except for the ones in the Communist Party, they were pretty animated.
brainstorm
02-21-2013, 04:28 PM
And this is how Chinese workers talk about Americans.
That is an act of war! :laugh:
CalSFGator
02-21-2013, 06:06 PM
Especially firemen. Especially them. And cops.
Dreamliner
02-21-2013, 06:27 PM
Especially firemen. Especially them. And cops.
Cops are the worst. Firemen ? I knew one, when I was in the alarm business. I asked him whether the fire department responded to alarm calls prompted by monitored smoke detectors.
His response: "Eh, not really."
ThePlayer
02-21-2013, 06:50 PM
And this is how Chinese workers talk about Americans.
Americans work 8-hour days, 5 days a week...unlike the French, who only work 3 hours per day.
The Chinese know the truth because we catch them stealing our $hit EVERY day of the week.
Gatorrick22
02-21-2013, 08:41 PM
And this is how Chinese workers talk about Americans.
And that's why every Dem in congress has money tied to China.
gatorev12
02-22-2013, 12:20 AM
France is largely a spent force in most areas of manufacturing--and has been for some time due to those reasons.
On luxury/specialty goods wherein a buyer's willing to pay a little extra for a brand or a product simply because there's extra value in the product being from France (a bottle of wine, bottle of perfume, or brie cheese for instance), then French goods will still be around for awhile. Everything else though? They're finished. French workers are a joke if you're measuring production and value compared with the price of the labor you're buying.
CalSFGator
02-22-2013, 12:29 AM
And that's why every Dem in congress has money tied to China.
Every Dem? Hyperbole, or evidenced based?
Minister_of_Information
02-22-2013, 02:03 AM
Especially firemen. Especially them. And cops.
Yep.
Lawdog88
02-22-2013, 10:14 AM
The Chinese know the truth because we catch them stealing our $hit EVERY day of the week.
They work hard for our money . . .
Swampmaster
02-22-2013, 10:23 AM
The only things I like about the french:
french toast
french bread
french fries
french kissing
brainstorm
02-22-2013, 11:02 AM
BTW we should leave French women out of the conversation :)
Lawdog88
02-22-2013, 11:06 AM
The only things I like about the french:
french toast
french bread
french fries
french kissing
Baths every three days ? Major benefit !
orangeblueorangeblue
02-22-2013, 12:34 PM
Americans work 8-hour days, 5 days a week...unlike the French, who only work 3 hours per day.
The Chinese know the truth because we catch them stealing our $hit EVERY day of the week.
8 hour days and 5 day weeks are basically vacations for other countries in the world.
orangeblueorangeblue
02-22-2013, 12:36 PM
A lot of this comes down to worn generalizations, though. The "hard-working Germans" work less on average than the French.
ThePlayer
02-22-2013, 12:55 PM
8 hour days and 5 day weeks are basically vacations for other countries in the world.
Those "other countries" you mention don't have unions.
Consider them more fortunate for it, not less.
G8trGr8t
02-22-2013, 01:11 PM
A lot of this comes down to worn generalizations, though. The "hard-working Germans" work less on average than the French.
you have to define "work". easier to discuss productivity. I can work 40 and get more done than some that work 60. germans are much more productive due to efficiency, german unions do not fight against efficiency even if it results in less jobs. most other unions rebel against efficiency as it generally results in some form of job loss from current levels
brainstorm
02-22-2013, 01:17 PM
A lot of this comes down to worn generalizations, though. The "hard-working Germans" work less on average than the French.
German productivity >>>> French productivity.
Bear in mind the program by the German government introduced in 2009 that allowed companies to cut work weeks for employees, as opposed to firing them, in exchange for the government’s pledge to cover remaining wages. This obviously had an impact on hours/person in Germany.
Another factor - the number of hours worked per week only refer to those who actually had a job. Unemployment was much higher in France over the last few years:
http://www.bls.gov/fls/intl_unemployment_rates_monthly.htm#Rtable1
The French stereotype seems earned.
orangeblueorangeblue
02-22-2013, 02:31 PM
German productivity >>>> French productivity.
Quantify, please. Again, we're talking mainly in generalizations.
brainstorm
02-22-2013, 02:53 PM
I provided some "quantity" in the paragraph below my generalization.
Germans have an outstanding reputation for work ethic and production. The French do not. Data backs that up.
northgagator
02-23-2013, 11:48 AM
Americans work 8-hour days, 5 days a week...unlike the French, who only work 3 hours per day.
At this time I consider 8-hour days, 5 days a week a vacation. I am currently working on a team that is starting year two of a three year project. We are doing a total replacement on a financial system for a Fortune 100 Company.
Since last October it has been 55+ hours Monday thru Friday and an addition 8 to 16?hours on weekends. If this project were done on France it would take six or seven years to complete.
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