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c_gator24
02-20-2013, 08:53 PM
Do you all think we will run a lot more 2 tight end sets this upcoming season similar to the way the Patriots do? Kent Taylor and Colin Thompson would start and it would definitely help Driskel to have 2 good tight ends.

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geauxgator1
02-20-2013, 08:59 PM
I dunno, but I'd like to see Driskel run more, in the read option. It plays more to his strengths. The pro's are using it more, and we are using it less.

TrillGator
02-20-2013, 09:09 PM
I'd like to see the two tight end sets occasionally. But I also like having the speedy athletes pease is so creative with. Altogether our offense next year just has to execute consistently. At times our line looked elite and other times mediocre. I think this being pease second year we will see a lot more production for the sole fact that we will be a lot more consistent.

NoahBeanBizzel
02-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Do you all think we will run a lot more 2 tight end sets this upcoming season similar to the way the Patriots do? Kent Taylor and Colin Thompson would start and it would definitely help Driskel to have 2 good tight ends.

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I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

petro
02-20-2013, 09:14 PM
Burton in the slot all year will open everything up!


Flame time!!!!! : )

gatorbait1
02-20-2013, 09:28 PM
I dunno, but I'd like to see Driskel run more, in the read option. It plays more to his strengths. The pro's are using it more, and we are using it less.

Me too but not now that we don't have a back up in brissett...I don't want to think about JD going down but yes it's a lot better than burton doing it. Everyone and there mother knows its a run when Burton's in...I struggle with that.

gatorbait1
02-20-2013, 09:34 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

What was pattons longest run this year? I'm not knocking him at all but to compare him to Percy? Just curious, what would give that impression off? Pls no I'm not being a jerk but just curious. I personally think we need to throw some screen and more pass plays to him and let him make some moves.i think we limit him from his talent apart from sweeps, he's invisible.

g8rfan22
02-20-2013, 09:41 PM
Solomon Patton is not Percy Harvin in any way. Please stop the comparisons to Percy. He was a high caliber athlete that we may not see the lijes of again for many years.

TrillGator
02-20-2013, 09:42 PM
What was pattons longest run this year? I'm not knocking him at all but to compare him to Percy? Just curious, what would give that impression off? Pls no I'm not being a jerk but just curious. I personally think we need to throw some screen and more pass plays to him and let him make some moves.i think we limit him from his talent apart from sweeps, he's invisible.

That's what I was thinking. and it's bit early to say if Taylor is an upgrade over Reed, and obvious seems a bit radical. Reed was one of the few players on our offense this year that consistently made plays. Kent Taylor shows some promise but I think it's absurd to consider him an obvious upgrade.

gator07
02-20-2013, 09:54 PM
Most importantly, the offensive line is adding six new bodies which should totally revamp that unit.

HudsonGator
02-20-2013, 09:59 PM
I dunno, but I'd like to see Driskel run more, in the read option. It plays more to his strengths. The pro's are using it more, and we are using it less.

With no real back-up QB, I don't want to see him running at all.

geauxgator1
02-20-2013, 10:06 PM
With no real back-up QB, I don't want to see him running at all.

Who did we have with Tebow? Someone will be ready.

gatorbait1
02-20-2013, 10:10 PM
Who did we have with Tebow? Someone will be ready.

Cam newton

sleeze
02-20-2013, 10:37 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

Homerism at its finest....please tell me you are not older than 16.

geauxgator1
02-20-2013, 10:43 PM
Cam newton

John Brantley.. in other words it wasn't a concern then, and shouldn't be a concern now.. The QB can go down at any time and the only time Tebow really got hurt when he was hit in the pocket. Read option is no more dangerous for Qb's than any other system, if the guy is physical enough. He's a physical qb.

gatorbait1
02-20-2013, 10:47 PM
John Brantley.. in other words it wasn't a concern then, and shouldn't be a concern now.. The QB can go down at any time and the only time Tebow really got hurt when he was hit in the pocket. Read option is no more dangerous for Qb's than any other system, if the guy is physical enough. He's a physical qb.

I hear ya but your comparing apples to oranges. JD is NOT tebow! JD is physical but he also in his 2 years at U. F has been banged up both years. Tebow is a rare breed of an animal, not knocking Jeff D but he worries me because of his track record of being hurt. Do u really want to take that risk? He will probabally run a lot anyways but if it was me I would stay on the wise side and use as needed

StrangeGator
02-20-2013, 11:08 PM
The offense will be different. Don't know if two TE sets will be the standard. Definitely don't think anyone is ready to be an upgrade to Reed yet, though it's nice to have two promising young TEs coming up, one of whom can block SEC level DL.

The WR rotation will be different. If anything, I expect Patton to be less a part of the offense than last year unless he learns to run great routes and catch the ball in clutch situations. Last seasons, he was a helpful element with a limited skill set.

I expect more power running and more play action passing. Don't know who the key players will be except the new guys on the OL. Give Driskel .2 more seconds to get the ball away and no one can touch us.

geauxgator1
02-20-2013, 11:15 PM
I hear ya but your comparing apples to oranges. JD is NOT tebow! JD is physical but he also in his 2 years at U. F has been banged up both years. Tebow is a rare breed of an animal, not knocking Jeff D but he worries me because of his track record of being hurt. Do u really want to take that risk? He will probabally run a lot anyways but if it was me I would stay on the wise side and use as needed

I just don't see it as being that much more of a risk. As bad as our OL has been it was more dangerous to sit in the pocket anyway. JD was running for his life. he might as well lower his head and pick up some yards when he can, and probably risk less injury than get blind sided in the pocket. So many teams are going read option, and its not any more dangerous imho.

ufgators32
02-20-2013, 11:27 PM
Don't expect to see any different type of offense than what you saw this past season. UF's strength on offense again will be the OL so expect UF to feature the running game. The passing game has upgraded talent and coaching so its fair to expect significant improvement but the youth and inexperience suggest that there will be growing pains. Overall should be a more complete and balanced offense but probably a year away from putting it all together.

elrongator
02-20-2013, 11:41 PM
I just hope Muschamp trusts Pease to put enough spice into the packages we present that its not 100% ball control between the tackles I formation.
We have to mix it up to win close games and keep folks off balance.
Would love to kick Bama's ass in the SEC title game then crush Ohio State for another national title.

killercroc_UF
02-21-2013, 07:33 AM
I just don't see it as being that much more of a risk. As bad as our OL has been it was more dangerous to sit in the pocket anyway. JD was running for his life. he might as well lower his head and pick up some yards when he can, and probably risk less injury than get blind sided in the pocket. So many teams are going read option, and its not any more dangerous imho.

Yeah plus the team the won the SB was old school offense with dominant d. Champ doesn't need to change much.

orangeblueorangeblue
02-21-2013, 07:44 AM
Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end.

Oh god it's starting early this year.

grant1
02-21-2013, 08:12 AM
Unbelievable posts. We have no proven QB backup and people want to run JD more. We have no proven TE, yet they are projected to be all-SEC. Just because Tebow ran a lot with Brantley at backup doesn't mean it was a good idea. For those who forgot, JD hurt his ankle last year on a read-option run.

Hopefully the OL will be better, giving JD more time and we'll throw more on first down to keep the D honest.

nflgator
02-21-2013, 08:23 AM
JD needs to learn the best time to run the ball, and mix it up better. He would take less hits this way.

PSGator66
02-21-2013, 08:26 AM
I expect an upgrade with the offensive line which translates into more production.

orangeblueorangeblue
02-21-2013, 08:26 AM
For those who forgot, JD hurt his ankle last year on a read-option run.

You can't ever be afraid to run the offense you need to run to win games, though. You can be injured on any play.

grant1
02-21-2013, 12:20 PM
You can't ever be afraid to run the offense you need to run to win games, though. You can be injured on any play.

We're going to agree to disagree. Last year, we had a backup. Next year we do not. We need to run JD with caution. I'm not suggesting not running him at all, just limit his runs more.

int1974
02-21-2013, 12:24 PM
Murphy might be all right as a back up. Seems if he had no chance he would have moved on, on his own ,or with a slight push. Think they would have moved him to SS, WR if they saw nothing at QB.

socraticsilence
02-21-2013, 02:40 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.



As a blocker perhaps, Reed as a pass catcher was highly underrated by our fan base as the draft will show- despite basically being the only mismatch in the secondary and having a mediocre passer throwing it to him he still managed to be arguably the best TE in the SEC last year.

socraticsilence
02-21-2013, 02:44 PM
With no real back-up QB, I don't want to see him running at all.

If he's not going to run what does he offer as a QB- his threat as a runner is literally the only thing Driskel has going for him at the current time- every other facet that you look for in a QB is average at best.

ovillegator
02-21-2013, 02:58 PM
With no real back-up QB, I don't want to see him running at all.

THIS!

Besides, we should have a powerful backfield to take care of the run.

Matthanuf06
02-21-2013, 02:58 PM
Yeah plus the team the won the SB was old school offense with dominant d. Champ doesn't need to change much.

Baltimore is no old school offense with dominant D. You are getting your Ravens superbowls mixed up. Balts D was still good but nowhere close to dominant. And Balt features a big time vertical passing attack...not "old school" O.

Matthanuf06
02-21-2013, 03:00 PM
I hear ya but your comparing apples to oranges. JD is NOT tebow! JD is physical but he also in his 2 years at U. F has been banged up both years. Tebow is a rare breed of an animal, not knocking Jeff D but he worries me because of his track record of being hurt. Do u really want to take that risk? He will probabally run a lot anyways but if it was me I would stay on the wise side and use as needed

1. If Jeff doesn't run then the offense sputters and we lose

2. If Jeff runs and gets hurt... We lose

3. If Jeff runs and does not get hurt... We win

What is the only favorable scenario? 3.

socraticsilence
02-21-2013, 03:09 PM
1. If Jeff doesn't run then the offense sputters and we lose

2. If Jeff runs and gets hurt... We lose

3. If Jeff runs and does not get hurt... We win

What is the only favorable scenario? 3.

This- if Jeff doesn't run, the frankly should he be the starter- I know we don't have any options so obviously he will be but let's be real here Jeff isn't an SEC quality starting QB if you take away his running threat.

gatorbait1
02-21-2013, 03:48 PM
1. If Jeff doesn't run then the offense sputters and we lose

2. If Jeff runs and gets hurt... We lose

3. If Jeff runs and does not get hurt... We win

What is the only favorable scenario? 3.

4-throw the damn ball and hand it off to the running back!

gatorbait1
02-21-2013, 03:51 PM
1. If Jeff doesn't run then the offense sputters and we lose

2. If Jeff runs and gets hurt... We lose

3. If Jeff runs and does not get hurt... We win

What is the only favorable scenario? 3.

How about
4- throw the ball or hand it off to the running back????? We're U of freakin F man someone needs to step the hell up at receiver....struggling with that

GatorSean
02-21-2013, 04:14 PM
QBs are more likely to get hurt standing in the pocket on a pass play than they are running the ball. Tebow's worst injury came on a pass play. All of Brantley's injuries came on pass plays. JD's injury his frosh year came on a pass play.

You just have to play. If JD's running is what helps the team, then you have to let him run. The coaches can't worry about things that are really more a matter of luck than anything else.

Playing scared to avoid injuries is far more likely to result in a loss than an actual injury that occurs is.

Gatorrick22
02-21-2013, 04:17 PM
How about
4- throw the ball or hand it off to the running back????? We're U of freakin F man someone needs to step the hell up at receiver....struggling with that

Indeed.....someone does.

garettk
02-21-2013, 06:15 PM
Who did we have with Tebow? Someone will be ready.

Tebow possibly get hurt? Surely you jest!

grant1
02-21-2013, 06:20 PM
1. If Jeff doesn't run then the offense sputters and we lose

2. If Jeff runs and gets hurt... We lose

3. If Jeff runs and does not get hurt... We win

What is the only favorable scenario? 3.

True for 2012. We're talking about 2013 and it could/should be completely different. Huge difference is the backup for 2012 vs 2013.

socraticsilence
02-21-2013, 06:21 PM
How about
4- throw the ball or hand it off to the running back????? We're U of freakin F man someone needs to step the hell up at receiver....struggling with that

Someone also needs to step up at QB or it doesn't matter how open people are-- remember we had people running free in New Orleans a lot of the time but if the QB only looks at one guy it doesn't really matter unless that guy is one of the open receivers.

gatorbait1
02-21-2013, 06:25 PM
Someone also needs to step up at QB or it doesn't matter how open people are-- remember we had people running free in New Orleans a lot of the time but if the QB only looks at one guy it doesn't really matter unless that guy is one of the open receivers.

I agree but to his defense he has only enough time to look to one guy before he gets ear holed at least it seemed that way....It takes the line to block, Receivers to get open and JD to execute.. IMO

socraticsilence
02-21-2013, 06:41 PM
I agree but to his defense he has only enough time to look to one guy before he gets ear holed at least it seemed that way....It takes the line to block, Receivers to get open and JD to execute.. IMO

No doubt, I think with experience JD should make the line look better as well- just stepping up or even throwing it away would have made a big difference a lot times last year.

geauxgator1
02-21-2013, 06:41 PM
Someone also needs to step up at QB or it doesn't matter how open people are-- remember we had people running free in New Orleans a lot of the time but if the QB only looks at one guy it doesn't really matter unless that guy is one of the open receivers.

All I saw was him running for his life most of the time.

TrillGator
02-21-2013, 06:43 PM
I agree but to his defense he has only enough time to look to one guy before he gets ear holed at least it seemed that way....It takes the line to block, Receivers to get open and JD to execute.. IMO

I don't what games you were watching last year but on numerous occasions JD watched one guy all the way downfield, completely disregarding his checkdowns. In the the SEC your line can only protect so long. There was many times driskel just held on to the ball to long, the majority of the time for that matter

gatorbait1
02-21-2013, 06:59 PM
I don't what games you were watching last year but on numerous occasions JD watched one guy all the way downfield, completely disregarding his checkdowns. In the the SEC your line can only protect so long. There was many times driskel just held on to the ball to long, the majority of the time for that matter

I watched every game actually and I def recall a lot of JD looking at the ground or running for his life but your right that he does have a problem with getting locked on 1 receiver when he has a little time. Hopefully he grows out of that this year but he needs time to throw the dang ball too. Even in the sec I've watched bama give there Qb all day to throw it.

slayerxing
02-22-2013, 11:40 AM
UF's offense is a complete mystery.

We THINK we have a good RB in Jones, but he's never been the featured back and Mack Brown has been injured pretty much his whole career. Other than that its hoping that freshmen are awesome.

The WR issue is so bad right now that a corner is moving to WR. Most of us expect freshmen to push for immediate and significant playing time.

UF doesn't have a TE on the roster outside of converted DE Clay Burton that has ever caught a pass.

Solomon Patton is not a pass-catching threat at this point, and his jet sweeps, while normally somewhat successful, don't look anything like Percy.

We're still not sure if the OL can pass protect, but we're hopign the OL will be better in that regard than last year. The run blocking should be solid.

Oh and we aren't sure if our QB is actually going to become a competent passer.

I'm hopeful that players will step up, but honestly, the UF offense is kind of a mess right now. Probably 1 more year away from really competing at a high level on that side of the ball.

grant1
02-22-2013, 12:23 PM
UF's offense is a complete mystery.

We THINK we have a good RB in Jones, but he's never been the featured back and Mack Brown has been injured pretty much his whole career. Other than that its hoping that freshmen are awesome.

The WR issue is so bad right now that a corner is moving to WR. Most of us expect freshmen to push for immediate and significant playing time.

UF doesn't have a TE on the roster outside of converted DE Clay Burton that has ever caught a pass.

Solomon Patton is not a pass-catching threat at this point, and his jet sweeps, while normally somewhat successful, don't look anything like Percy.

We're still not sure if the OL can pass protect, but we're hopign the OL will be better in that regard than last year. The run blocking should be solid.

Oh and we aren't sure if our QB is actually going to become a competent passer.

I'm hopeful that players will step up, but honestly, the UF offense is kind of a mess right now. Probably 1 more year away from really competing at a high level on that side of the ball.

All true. It appears that the philosphy and execution moved in a positive direction from 2011 to 2012 and we hope for continued improved in execution. Will we have a defense to bail us out in 2013?

TrillGator
02-22-2013, 12:46 PM
UF's offense is a complete mystery.

We THINK we have a good RB in Jones, but he's never been the featured back and Mack Brown has been injured pretty much his whole career. Other than that its hoping that freshmen are awesome.

The WR issue is so bad right now that a corner is moving to WR. Most of us expect freshmen to push for immediate and significant playing time.

UF doesn't have a TE on the roster outside of converted DE Clay Burton that has ever caught a pass.

Solomon Patton is not a pass-catching threat at this point, and his jet sweeps, while normally somewhat successful, don't look anything like Percy.

We're still not sure if the OL can pass protect, but we're hopign the OL will be better in that regard than last year. The run blocking should be solid.

Oh and we aren't sure if our QB is actually going to become a competent passer.

I'm hopeful that players will step up, but honestly, the UF offense is kind of a mess right now. Probably 1 more year away from really competing at a high level on that side of the ball.

All this is true, but all these things can be a result of a first year system. I think a lot of these things can be significantly improved with a whole year to focus on improving. I think Matt Jones turned a corner last year late. I think jones being a top tier sec runningback can be a valid argument, the only thing preventing him last year was his pad level through the hole.

I'm not sure anyone refers to Patton being a pass-catching threat. We were inconsistent in how we executed the majority of our offense including the jet sweeps which we have a whole offseason to improve.

driskels competence will remain a mystery, but it is justified to presume he will make strides. He has a whole offseason as our guy. Not splitting reps. He has to improve in some way.

No doubt were a bit of a mess but who's not at this point. I'd say we were in better shape than a lot of teams. I'm content.
Think about it, we could have Clint little shit trickett our qb hunt, LOL

GatorLaw
02-22-2013, 10:57 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

If half of those things actually happen I'll be a very happy Gator.

Zanso
02-22-2013, 11:17 PM
UF doesn't have a TE on the roster outside of converted DE Clay Burton that has ever caught a pass.

Kent Taylor had a touchdown catch.

UGator
02-23-2013, 05:09 AM
A strong run game usually begets a strong play action pass game. We have the potential with good RB's and some talent at WR for a change. We should be improved along the OL, and if Driskel can improve his decisions and field vision we could be much improved!

Some QB's with all world potential take more time to develop since the mental part of the game is often more important than a strong arm or fast legs.

number1
02-23-2013, 05:52 AM
I watched every game actually and I def recall a lot of JD looking at the ground or running for his life but your right that he does have a problem with getting locked on 1 receiver when he has a little time. Hopefully he grows out of that this year but he needs time to throw the dang ball too. Even in the sec I've watched bama give there Qb all day to throw it.

But at the same time, we watched Teddy Bridgewater light us up with our defense having him under pressure most of the game.

number1
02-23-2013, 05:55 AM
Unbelievable posts. We have no proven QB backup and people want to run JD more. We have no proven TE, yet they are projected to be all-SEC. Just because Tebow ran a lot with Brantley at backup doesn't mean it was a good idea. For those who forgot, JD hurt his ankle last year on a read-option run.

Hopefully the OL will be better, giving JD more time and we'll throw more on first down to keep the D honest.

But let's not forget how both he and Brantley got injured the season before last. He has been injured without trying to run the read-option. That is just part of the game. I have no idea who Manziel's backup was, but that didn't stop Texas A&M from cutting him loose on offense.

number1
02-23-2013, 05:59 AM
A strong run game usually begets a strong play action pass game. We have the potential with good RB's and some talent at WR for a change. We should be improved along the OL, and if Driskel can improve his decisions and field vision we could be much improved!

Some QB's with all world potential take more time to develop since the mental part of the game is often more important than a strong arm or fast legs.

Well he doesn't have too much longer to develop that part of his game since he will be a junior next season.

gatorbait1
02-23-2013, 08:45 AM
But at the same time, we watched Teddy Bridgewater light us up with our defense having him under pressure most of the game.

Tell that to coach pease....there pass game is all about timing. He would throw to a spot....drive me nuts all game

The_Graygator
02-23-2013, 11:52 AM
We'll be super duper-rific, much better-er than last season.

slayerxing
02-23-2013, 01:37 PM
Kent Taylor had a touchdown catch.

I'll have to check the stats i dont remember that. I think he actually did have one or two other catches but my point stands. UFs pass catchers are either mediocre by sec standards or almost entirely unproven.

Th run game will have to carry the team again next season and theres no guarantees that happens with only one semi proven rb on the roster.

sleeze
02-23-2013, 02:04 PM
I'll have to check the stats i dont remember that. I think he actually did have one or two other catches but my point stands. UFs pass catchers are either mediocre by sec standards or almost entirely unproven.

Th run game will have to carry the team again next season and theres no guarantees that happens with only one semi proven rb on the roster.

Gilly was not a proven RB last year. There is never any guarantees.

socraticsilence
02-23-2013, 02:26 PM
Gilly was not a proven RB last year. There is never any guarantees.

True, and while I'd love it if Brown surprised I feel pretty good about Jones next year (not going to address the freshman- Taylor will probably be great someday but true frosh feature backs are absurdly rare especially in the SEC- Lattimore is the only guy I can remember in a while, Richardson shared time with the Heisman winner).

Other than that I'm worried offensively, and the defense will probably take a small step back due to attrition (talent level might be higher but you don't lose your entire core and improve when the core was as good as Floyd, Bostic and Elam) .. additionally if we're in close games like we were all last year the most missed player might be Caleb who was money.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-23-2013, 02:40 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

UGA returns everyone on offense next year minus one WR - but get the guy that was our leading WR last year before injury back plus Malcolm Mitchell will only play WR this year. Murray was #2 in the nation in passing efficiency and UGA was #22 in the nation on total offense. Driskel was #61 in passing efficiency and UF was #103 in the nation in total offense. UF has no proven QB, RB, WR, TE or Oline returning but you expect the most explosive offense in the league?

TAM returns the Heisman winner at QB.

Gatorrick22
02-23-2013, 02:45 PM
UGA returns everyone on offense next year minus one WR - but get the guy that was our leading WR last year before injury back plus Malcolm Mitchell will only play WR this year. Murray was #2 in the nation in passing efficiency and UGA was #22 in the nation on total offense. Driskel was #61 in passing efficiency and UF was #103 in the nation in total offense. UF has no proven QB, RB, WR, TE or Oline returning but you expect the most explosive offense in the league?

TAM returns the Heisman winner at QB.

Are you trying to say something here? We beat Johnny Football last year - so you think your team will have a better offense next year than A&M's was last year? And you think we'll somehow be as statistically bad on offense as we were last year?

gatorbait1
02-23-2013, 02:50 PM
Gilly was not a proven RB last year. There is never any guarantees.

What about Trent Richardson from bama? He's a guarantee

socraticsilence
02-23-2013, 03:07 PM
UGA returns everyone on offense next year minus one WR - but get the guy that was our leading WR last year before injury back plus Malcolm Mitchell will only play WR this year. Murray was #2 in the nation in passing efficiency and UGA was #22 in the nation on total offense. Driskel was #61 in passing efficiency and UF was #103 in the nation in total offense. UF has no proven QB, RB, WR, TE or Oline returning but you expect the most explosive offense in the league?

TAM returns the Heisman winner at QB.

No one really expects that, I'm hoping for a Top 75 offense- Driskel would be a beast in a spread option attack- he's at least as good as Braxton Miller at OSU and that guys probably going to New York next season but we're not going to do that so we have to settle for what we can get.

socraticsilence
02-23-2013, 03:08 PM
Are you trying to say something here? We beat Johnny Football last year - so you think your team will have a better offense next year than A&M's was last year? And you think we'll somehow be as statistically bad on offense as we were last year?

Um, don't bring up the who beat whom last year to an UGA fan I don't want to hear the glaringly obvious rejoinder.

Gatorrick22
02-23-2013, 03:20 PM
Um, don't bring up the who beat whom last year to an UGA fan I don't want to hear the glaringly obvious rejoinder.

Fair point, but our offense was good enough to win 11 games even thought they weren't statistically great. They will be much improved this coming year, better line and receivers, which bodes well for another 10+ win year.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-23-2013, 03:42 PM
Fair point, but our offense was good enough to win 11 games even thought they weren't statistically great. They will be much improved this coming year, better line and receivers, which bodes well for another 10+ win year.

UF won last year with a excellent defense. When the defense had lapses UF wa beatable, like the bowl game. Most here expected a much improved line last year that didn't seem to meet expectations. You have no idea if your WRs will be better. Same for RB. It's all talk and hope this time of year unless you have proven returners.

What I tried to say is UGA had a much better offense last year and far less holes to fill. Practically no holes to fill. I would be surprised if the Gator offense will be more explosive. Guess we'll see in about 7 months.

NoahBeanBizzel
02-23-2013, 04:08 PM
UF won last year with a excellent defense. When the defense had lapses UF wa beatable, like the bowl game. Most here expected a much improved line last year that didn't seem to meet expectations. You have no idea if your WRs will be better. Same for RB. It's all talk and hope this time of year unless you have proven returners.

What I tried to say is UGA had a much better offense last year and far less holes to fill. Practically no holes to fill. I would be surprised if the Gator offense will be more explosive. Guess we'll see in about 7 months.

Well, here's what we know for sure: Georgia sure ain't gonna win a national title this year...again. And you can bet ten Gs on that, Rick.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-23-2013, 04:26 PM
Well, here's what we know for sure: Georgia sure ain't gonna win a national title this year...again. And you can bet ten Gs on that, Rick.

Yeah...guess I'll just stay on topic. Nice talking football with you.

NoahBeanBizzel
02-23-2013, 05:13 PM
Yeah...guess I'll just stay on topic. Nice talking football with you.

Sorry man, I'll agree my comment was a bit harsh. I apologize.

gatorbait96
02-23-2013, 05:19 PM
Kent Taylor caught a TD in the Sugar Bowl.

sleeze
02-23-2013, 05:50 PM
What about Trent Richardson from bama? He's a guarantee

Nah...he can get injured just like the next man. No gurantees.

gatorev12
02-23-2013, 06:34 PM
UF won last year with a excellent defense. When the defense had lapses UF wa beatable, like the bowl game. Most here expected a much improved line last year that didn't seem to meet expectations. You have no idea if your WRs will be better. Same for RB. It's all talk and hope this time of year unless you have proven returners.

What I tried to say is UGA had a much better offense last year and far less holes to fill. Practically no holes to fill. I would be surprised if the Gator offense will be more explosive. Guess we'll see in about 7 months.

Georgia won last year based on their defense too--without Jarvis Jones, I doubt you guys beat Mizzou in the SEC opener...and it was your defense that beat Kentucky, your offense struggled mightily throughout.

And while Georgia certainly put up impressive numbers on offense throughout the year, consider the schedule. When playing against ranked teams, Georgia went 1-2 (beating Florida, but losing against Bama and South Carolina). Next year, UGAy (:joecool:) plays a much tougher schedule (Clemson and South Carolina back to back...and LSU rotates on the schedule too).

I do think Georgia will be around as a SEC East contender next year--but if your offense has an off game (which happened a few times last year), your defense will be significantly weaker than last season's unit.

gatordee
02-23-2013, 06:52 PM
I expect an upgrade with the offensive line which translates into more production.

Thsi. Also, JD has a MUCH better idea this year of what is to be expected in order to win the SEC. He should be able to audible and with this team having the same OC as last year (been a while), this offense should click. I also feel we will have better athletes to put on the field for offense, than we did last year. Purifoy along with the freshman wrs could be huge. Just to have some athletes out there that can run a route will be nice.

socraticsilence
02-23-2013, 07:21 PM
Kent Taylor caught a TD in the Sugar Bowl.

Could be why he missed it, god knows I'm trying block that game out of my memory- ugh that one fade Bridgewater threw to start the third- that must have been what it was like rooting against a Spurrier coached Florida team.

number1
02-24-2013, 03:17 AM
Rules for Driskel to have a good season.

1. Do not throw a pick 6 on the first play of the game.

2. Learn that it is okay to throw the ball away if nothing is there.

3. Stop locking onto 1 receiver and telegraphing your passes.

4. Wish under a shooting star that the O-Line can actually block and give you more time to survey the field.

c_gator24
02-24-2013, 12:18 PM
I think Purifoy will be a beast at receiver

The_Graygator
02-24-2013, 12:25 PM
UGA returns everyone on offense next year minus one WR - but get the guy that was our leading WR last year before injury back plus Malcolm Mitchell will only play WR this year. Murray was #2 in the nation in passing efficiency and UGA was #22 in the nation on total offense. Driskel was #61 in passing efficiency and UF was #103 in the nation in total offense. UF has no proven QB, RB, WR, TE or Oline returning but you expect the most explosive offense in the league?

TAM returns the Heisman winner at QB.


No proven QB or OL? :laugh:

The_Graygator
02-24-2013, 12:28 PM
Are you trying to say something here? We beat Johnny Football last year - so you think your team will have a better offense next year than A&M's was last year? And you think we'll somehow be as statistically bad on offense as we were last year?

What's funny is that the only reason UGA won that game last year was because UF self-destructed, and then had one of the softest of the SEC schedules the last two years too.

Wow, the first two-game win streak against us by UGA in 22 years and they're already talking the smack. :roll:

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-24-2013, 01:18 PM
Sorry man, I'll agree my comment was a bit harsh. I apologize.

No problem. No one knows what their team will look like in February. Gator offense may light it up.

Spleezy
02-24-2013, 01:40 PM
Pease ran quite a few run option plays for Driskel (see end of Texas A&M, LSU and the entie Vandy game), he made bad reads some times (see FSU). I think the offense has the potential to be better...we'll have to wait and see. As for UGA, they will have to rebuild their defense.

Gatorrick22
02-24-2013, 02:55 PM
Pease ran quite a few run option plays for Driskel (see end of Texas A&M, LSU and the entie Vandy game), he made bad reads some times (see FSU). I think the offense has the potential to be better...we'll have to wait and see. As for UGA, they will have to rebuild their defense.

All true - this is why Driskel needs to grow some next year, which I fully expect him to do in just his second year in this offense. That with an improved receivers and O-line is what I expect to see next year.

Furthermore, I'll take our much improved Gator offense over a rebuilding UGA defense any day of the week and twice on....Saturdays. :yes:

We win this match-up next year, IMHO.

Gatorrick22
02-24-2013, 02:58 PM
What's funny is that the only reason UGA won that game last year was because UF self-destructed, and then had one of the softest of the SEC schedules the last two years too.

Wow, the first two-game win streak against us by UGA in 22 years and they're already talking the smack. :roll:

We did implode last year. I expect a very different Gator offense next year - much improved.

And their schedule is a complete joke...... Man do I despise Slive and the fact that the entire SEC is in 'bama's back yard.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-24-2013, 03:37 PM
No proven QB or OL? :laugh:

Rushing the Olines were about the same, and I'm not claiming UGA's line is proven - but we're not replacing half our line like the Gators are or our senior RB and our senior QB was #2 in the nation, that's proven.

39 Florida 539 for 2445 for a 4.54 avr.
43 Georgia 525 for 2556 for a 4.87 avr.

Passing?

30 Georgia 3991 yrds and 37 TDs with 285.07 ypg.
114 Florida 1902 and 13 TDs with 146.31 ypg.

Sacks - UGA #65, UF #106, only AU was worse

TFL - UGA #32, UF #85

Lots of Gators on here questioning your QB and the blocking of last year's line. Given the stats above I don't see how you think they're proven.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-24-2013, 03:42 PM
What's funny is that the only reason UGA won that game last year was because UF self-destructed, and then had one of the softest of the SEC schedules the last two years too.

Wow, the first two-game win streak against us by UGA in 22 years and they're already talking the smack. :roll:

Yeah, UF never won a game during those years because UGA self-destructed. That stuff goes both ways.

I'm not talking smack, I'm talking football. Lots of good fans on here can tell the difference.

LimeyGator
02-24-2013, 04:04 PM
Yeah, UF never won a game during those years because UGA self-destructed. That stuff goes both ways.

I'm not talking smack, I'm talking football. Lots of good fans on here can tell the difference.

Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.

DawgFanFromAlabam
02-24-2013, 04:29 PM
Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.

Indeed, but lost is UGA also turned the ball over 3 times.

Just as pertinent was UGA limiting Gillisee to 77 yards and UF to 75 yards total rushing, whilst UGA's freshman Gurley went for 118 and UGA rushed for 123. Georgia's defense won that game.

rserina
02-24-2013, 04:34 PM
Purify an all-SEC receiver? Most explosive offense in the league (not as if that is saying too much)? That stuff just sets you up for a letdown.

We will be improved because it is the second year for a very raw quarterback and the second year in a new offensive scheme. The offensive line will be as good in the run game or better and I suspect with some adjustments to the passing game that the pass protection will be as well. We have the horses to fill Gilislee's spot, even if we don't replace his entire productivity. The only real spot for concern is receiver, which really held us back last year. Dunbar is solid, but unspectacular. The combination of Burton, Taylor, and Thompson fill fill the Reed-Hines roles. The biggest question is whether or not we can find a playmaker or two at receiver, someone who can make something happen with the ball in his hands on a short route or get off a jam and beat his man deep or into his break. Robinson is probably the best bet. Andrades and Pittman are decent, but I don't see either as explosive. Maybe Purifoy will prove me wrong, but I suspect his greater upside is at corner, not receiver, and he finds his way back there.

LimeyGator
02-24-2013, 04:43 PM
Indeed, but lost is UGA also turned the ball over 3 times.

Just as pertinent was UGA limiting Gillisee to 77 yards and UF to 75 yards total rushing, whilst UGA's freshman Gurley went for 118 and UGA rushed for 123. Georgia's defense won that game.

Murray had 3 interceptions.

Florida fumbled SIX times. 4 were lost. We also threw 2 more INTs.

That's the story right there - anything else is secondary.

The Georgia defense played well, no doubt. But we conceivably got rid of the ball 8 times had it not been for the recoveries. EIGHT.

Gillislee and the Gator offense had equally ineffective rushing games in addition to Georgia (Carolina, where we only had 89 yards on the ground). Faced with a good pass rush, our OL was left wanting. The odd thing was we executed against the Gamecocks - but unsurprisingly they kept turning the ball over and we did not...

socraticsilence
02-24-2013, 06:37 PM
No proven QB or OL? :laugh:

Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?

socraticsilence
02-24-2013, 06:39 PM
Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.

The UGA game was the flipside of the FSU game- two teams played fairly evenly but one team just kept turning it over and that ended up being the difference in a close contest.

gatorbait1
02-24-2013, 06:40 PM
Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?

Yeah we are and I believe it's called an upgrade....atleast we will see. Only time will tell how good we are. Spring is right around the corner

rserina
02-24-2013, 08:09 PM
Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?
Pretty weak comparison. First of all, Brantley was a first year starter in 2010. Second, the conditions were completely different. In his first year as a starter, Brantley was a fourth year junior in the same offensive system for the fourth season, then as a senior he was in a new offensive system under an entirely new coaching staff. Driskel, on the other hand, was a true sophomore in his second season in as many seasons last year, while next season he will have the same system and offensive coordinator. Plus, whereas Brantley headed a 8-5 team i his first year, Driskel manned a 11-2 team. A better comparison would be Leak heading into his sophomore year, not Brantley as a senior.

On the offensive line, we lose two starters who both just so happened to be our weakest in pass protection. Replacing them are a pair of kids with starting experience in senior Koehne and sophomore Humphries, or possibly an all-league ACC player in Garcia.

Receiver is a problem, but I am not concerned about quarterback or offensive line.

orangeblueorangeblue
02-24-2013, 08:13 PM
A better comparison would be Leak heading into his sophomore year, not Brantley as a senior.

True, although Leak had a new OC in year 2.

Wormwood56
02-24-2013, 08:24 PM
Murray had 3 interceptions.

Florida fumbled SIX times. 4 were lost. We also threw 2 more INTs.

That's the story right there - anything else is secondary.

The Georgia defense played well, no doubt. But we conceivably got rid of the ball 8 times had it not been for the recoveries. EIGHT.

Gillislee and the Gator offense had equally ineffective rushing games in addition to Georgia (Carolina, where we only had 89 yards on the ground). Faced with a good pass rush, our OL was left wanting. The odd thing was we executed against the Gamecocks - but unsurprisingly they kept turning the ball over and we did not...

I could accept the notion that we gift-wrapped the game to Georgia if I could also accept the idea that USCe gift-wrapped the game to us, but i don't think either was the case...

As for our offense. It is clear that Muschamp is building the Gators as Saban, Beamer, Miles, and even Spurrier are building their teams. Efficient, low-risk offense with a dominant defense. Spurrier never had success at USCe until he finally swallowed his pride and played defensive football, and the records of Saban, Beamer and Miles are pretty self evident. Defense wins. I will be overjoyed if we become the efficient offensive machine Saban has installed at Alabama, and I think Muschamp and Pease will do exactly that. It will be like the mid-1980s for us older Gators all over again, without the booster cheating this time...

The_Graygator
02-24-2013, 09:48 PM
Rushing the Olines were about the same, and I'm not claiming UGA's line is proven - but we're not replacing half our line like the Gators are or our senior RB and our senior QB was #2 in the nation, that's proven.

39 Florida 539 for 2445 for a 4.54 avr.
43 Georgia 525 for 2556 for a 4.87 avr.

Passing?

30 Georgia 3991 yrds and 37 TDs with 285.07 ypg.
114 Florida 1902 and 13 TDs with 146.31 ypg.

Sacks - UGA #65, UF #106, only AU was worse

TFL - UGA #32, UF #85

Lots of Gators on here questioning your QB and the blocking of last year's line. Given the stats above I don't see how you think they're proven.


Lots of fans complain. I noticed a lot of that same stuff from UGA fans after the last 20 or so UF - UGA games.

All those stats mean nothing compared to your opinion, or what I might say, wishful thinking.

New OC, new OL coach, new S&C coach, what amounted to no WR's coach for last season, a QB in Driskel who was basically playing his rookie year at QB, and an OL that was doing just fine until many of them began ringing up one injury after another starting with the LSU game. Our entire starting OL was playing injured against UGA btw, some of them with multiple injuries. They were never healthy as a unit until FSU.

I don't expect leaps and bounds next season, but I expect a lot better offensive production from the '13 Gator offense. Muschamp has recruited extremely well and our players are being developed a lot better too.

Now you just move along and tell us how great UGA will be next season, but leave talking about Gator Football to the ones who know what they're talking about. :wink:

rserina
02-24-2013, 10:05 PM
It will be like the mid-1980s for us older Gators all over again
This is actually a great comparison. Some forget how talented and competitive those teams were. Granted, we were in the dark days of SEC offenses, but those staffs recruited as well as anyone and developed tough, physical, power offenses with enough speed to make plays. The better Pell and Hall teams get overlooked because the offenses weren't as sexy as under Spurrier and Meyer and they didn't win anything, but they were screwed out of one league title and had a pretty good argument to being the best team in the nation when BYU became the most underwhelming national champion of the scholarship era.

TrillGator
02-24-2013, 10:41 PM
The UGA game was the flipside of the FSU game- two teams played fairly evenly but one team just kept turning it over and that ended up being the difference in a close contest.

I wouldn't consider that the flipside, a lot of our turnovers in the uga game were mental errors and lack of focus. Not to discredit uga's performance on d because they were spectacular, but if you look at our turnovers in that game compared to fsus', a lot of the noles turnovers were takeaways. I wouldn't say the majority of our turnovers against Georgia were takeaways by their defense, though they played a great game.

socraticsilence
02-25-2013, 08:28 PM
True, although Leak had a new OC in year 2.

Leak as a true frosh was much much better than JD was last season though.

socraticsilence
02-25-2013, 08:30 PM
I wouldn't consider that the flipside, a lot of our turnovers in the uga game were mental errors and lack of focus. Not to discredit uga's performance on d because they were spectacular, but if you look at our turnovers in that game compared to fsus', a lot of the noles turnovers were takeaways. I wouldn't say the majority of our turnovers against Georgia were takeaways by their defense, though they played a great game.

I'd say the about even 2 of Manuel's picks were basically throws right to our defender with no receiver within 3 yards.

gatorlover974
02-25-2013, 10:07 PM
I think it's time to start talking about Florida having the most explosive attack in the SEC. Two tight end sets is only the beginning, as far as I'm concerned. Kent Taylor will be All-SEC, and I think he's an obvious upgrade over Jordan Reed at tight end. Colin Thompson will also add an explosive element to our attack. Not to mention he's a better blocker than Taylor, so he'll open up holes in the running game for Kelvin Taylor.

But it's at wide receiver where we'll truly turn the corner. It starts with Purifoy. He's the fastest player on the team, and a sure bet to be All-SEC. Also, keep your eyes out for a rising Quinton Dunbar. Solomon Patton looks awful like Percy on those jet sweeps. DeMarcus Robinson will likely be the freshman of the year in SEC play. And Pittman is the most physical receiver we've had in a while.

Our run game will be the most physical it's been in years. I anticipate that Kelvin Taylor will lead the SEC in rushing.

I hope you didn't put money on any of this because that's just not gonna happen. This post reminds me of Kentucky's message boards.

NoahBeanBizzel
02-25-2013, 10:12 PM
Purify an all-SEC receiver? Most explosive offense in the league (not as if that is saying too much)? That stuff just sets you up for a letdown.

We will be improved because it is the second year for a very raw quarterback and the second year in a new offensive scheme. The offensive line will be as good in the run game or better and I suspect with some adjustments to the passing game that the pass protection will be as well. We have the horses to fill Gilislee's spot, even if we don't replace his entire productivity. The only real spot for concern is receiver, which really held us back last year. Dunbar is solid, but unspectacular. The combination of Burton, Taylor, and Thompson fill fill the Reed-Hines roles. The biggest question is whether or not we can find a playmaker or two at receiver, someone who can make something happen with the ball in his hands on a short route or get off a jam and beat his man deep or into his break. Robinson is probably the best bet. Andrades and Pittman are decent, but I don't see either as explosive. Maybe Purifoy will prove me wrong, but I suspect his greater upside is at corner, not receiver, and he finds his way back there.

Wow. I really thought that there was more imagination on this board than there is...

socraticsilence
02-25-2013, 11:40 PM
Wow. I really thought that there was more imagination on this board than there is...

I'm more curious to how you think Kelvin is going to lead the Conference in rushing but Demarcus wins SEC Freshman of the year... Do you think we go to a no huddle attack or average 70 a game or what?