It Finally Hit Me: Barack Obama Will Never Be Held Responsible for Anything

[mocgator]

I think with the low information voter becoming the mainstream and the utter failure that is the main stream media this is patently true..

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/02/13/it_finally_hit_me_barack_obama_will_never_be_held_ responsible_for_anything

You know, yesterday we had the Gallup poll, and on every issue except one -- and I forget what the one issue was -- every issue, every policy, by vast majority numbers, the American people disagree with Obama. A vast majority disagree with Obama on every policy. I mean, it's not close. In some cases, the numbers of people that disagree are in the 60 percentages, and the people agree with Obama are in the forties. But they liked the speech last night. They thought it was exactly what was called for.

http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images/rushgalluppolls585_2/1114147-1-eng-GB/RushGallupPolls585_2.jpg

Obama's working on it, and that's good. We've got a health care problem and Obama's working on it. We've got a unemployment problem. Obama's working on it. He's got a program for it. But the thing that you gotta take away, the thing that you must understand about last night that defines everything: There is massive dissatisfaction with the country's direction. The vast majority of the American people do not like the direction in which the country is going, while at the same time there is overwhelming support for Barack Obama's agenda.

Which means that, to the vast majority of American voters, there is no relationship whatsoever between Obama's agenda and the direction of the country.

Now, you and I, in what I would call the high-information voter sector, understand what a giant disconnect that is. How in the world can people be dissatisfied with the country's direction while at the same time support the very agenda that's causing it? This just doesn't compute to you and me. We recognize that it is Obama's agenda which is leading to the problems this country has and thus the dissatisfaction that people have regarding the country's direction. But the majority of people who vote, there is no connection of those two things whatsoever. They support Obama's agenda, and they are terribly unhappy about the direction of the country, and, therefore, they do not associate Obama's agenda or his policies with the direction of the country.

Those people all voted for Romney, and they -- even the people that voted for Romney -- do not associate Obama with any of the problems in the country. This is what you and I are gonna have to learn and learn fast. No matter what is said, no matter what evidence happens, no matter what's reported, it will not be possible to connect Obama to the negativity that's happening in the country today because he's campaigning against it himself. That's the reason for the perpetual, never-ending campaign. It is why, in eight years, he will never allow himself for even one day to be seen as actually governing or presiding over any of this.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Reality based indeed

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524864_484488158253532_1456623266_n.jpg

[ThePlayer]

Obama is the master of illusion to be sure.

He came up with the sequester ("no off-ramps"...remember?)
but...abracadabra...now the sequester is the worst idea EVER.
Pure genius.

[g8orbill]

totally the teflon prez

[ncgatr1]

Perennial crusaders are never held responsible, it's like the guy at the office who always looks busy but is really never doing anything.

[tegator80]

You're focusing on the symptoms and not the affliction.

[G8trGr8t]

You're focusing on the symptoms and not the affliction.

Correct. It is a majority of this country that mirrors his inability to accept personal responsibility for how their actions have impacted their lives.

[tegator80]

Correct. It is a majority of this country that mirrors his inability to accept personal responsibility for how their actions have impacted their lives.

And voted for him, twice. He does because he can.

[geauxgator1]

Hey, he's a cool guy, why not just let him do what he wants.

[Dreamliner]

Well, he certainly wasn't held responsible last November. Indeed, he got 'revenge.'

[108]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

[mocgator]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

Thanks for cutting and pasting that from the democrat talking points. Your control c buttons must be worn out on your PC.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

He has exacerbated the problem There is a reason why this is the worst recession since the great depression. And that reason is Barack Obama.

[92gator]

Not so fast, Moc...

Potus in his second term....the 'bomb'--of whatever variety--usually detonates in or around the 6th year....and Barry's got a minefield of such, just itching to blow up...

e.g.--Obamacare, the debt, the deficit, budget (rather, lack thereof), nmilitary cuts, sequestration, benghazi, gas prices, immigration, boarder security, the 2nd Amendment (it would be a mistake to underestimate this particular dynamite he's mess'n with...), the economy, jobs, the dollar, the middle-east, terrorism, perhaps even his past...

The press has indeed been his lap dog--but this particular lap dog is notorious for turning on its 'owner'...

...especially 2nd term POTUS's.

[ThePlayer]

Hey, he's a cool guy, why not just let him do what he wants.

Funny, but that's exactly what the Greeks said to their leadership. :huh:

[g8orbill]

somebody on this thread wears knee pads

[jdrgator]

somebody on this thread wears knee pads

you being coy about your kneepads, bill? haha

[fredsanford]

Thanks for cutting and pasting that from the democrat talking points. Your control c buttons must be worn out on your PC.

Says the guy linking Limbaugh.com? Lol

If presidents faced the music in this country, Bush would be in jail in The Hague and Cheney would be facing a firing squad.

[tegator80]

I'm always entertained by our liberal brethren who come onto conservative rant threads not to refute the claims or to enlighten us on the merits of leaving a free market enterprise system but only to just say "Bush was evil." I hope you have that in a framed poster over your bed so that in the future when you wake up starving and the street gangs want to charge into your home to acquire your stuff, you will have something to comfort you.

And give the gangs something to laugh at.

[PSGator66]

Fred - that is complete BS and the original OP here is spot on! if you would open your eyes you would agree 100% but then that would require you going against your narrative.

[fredsanford]

I'm always entertained by our liberal brethren who come onto conservative rant threads not to refute the claims or to enlighten us on the merits of leaving a free market enterprise system but only to just say "Bush was evil." I hope you have that in a framed poster over your bed so that in the future when you wake up starving and the street gangs want to charge into your home to acquire your stuff, you will have something to comfort you.

And give the gangs something to laugh at.

What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.

From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.

Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.

[wgbgator]

These GOP pity parties are always fun.

[G8trGr8t]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?

[surfn1080]

Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?

Not according to him. Even his own idea of sequestration was not his fault...

[rivergator]

Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?

Can you ever point to a single aspect of an economy and say "Yes, that was completely the president's doing?"
That's not to say he has zero impact. He should certainly have some. But what facet is strictly the president's fault/credit?

[g8trjax]

It's really not the fault of the members of the whitehouse press corps. It's a known fact, humans are virtually incapable of multitasking.

[108]

He has exacerbated the problem There is a reason why this is the worst recession since the great depression. And that reason is Barack Obama.

yet there is no proof he has exacerbated it, and certainly no proof that so-called conservative fixes would help it

less regulation and trickle down were part of the problem to begin with

[tegator80]

What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.

From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.

Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.

Unfortunately you don't get it. You and others that like to tweek the other side are merely the stupid disparaging the retarded. In your case, you have bought the media's pejorative hook, line and sinker about what a conservative is. While I am not ready to go there, they are getting further away from being arrogant and lazy to being propaganda pushers. I still maintain that they are chasing after dollars just like the rest of the afflicted beings out there. Their moral authority to be journalists left a LONG time ago. That is not to say that Fox is holy and MSNBC is evil but that chasing after and coddling viewership has its own set of evils and their integrity is being continually compromised.

I posted on another thread that being conservative isn't about waving the flag and going to church. It is much more than that. It is an implicit understanding that humans are self serving and when any system doesn't take that into consideration it will be corrupted and then oppression will take over very quickly. It is unimaginable that there are people in the US that would take all of the prosperity that we have developed and nurtured throughout the years in the face of all of those who espouse other systems and come out on top only to be the dictators of a banana republic but that is HUMAN NATURE. History says so and it WILL say so in the future.

The US was built on self determination brought on by a wealth of resources and an independently minded middle class, not the caste system of the Europeans. But through the ages, most likely since the end of WW2 and our rise to superpower status, we began to unravel independence and self sufficiency and decided that we can let others do the heavy lifting. There are a plethora of reasons why but at the end of the day we are here. I have posted this several times and I just bring it back for your entertainment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM

Fred, these are yours and my future. Is THAT what you want? And if you think that they are just a fad and that saner heads are coming soon then all I can do is add to your poster this line, for your benefit: "Those who do not study history are forced to repeat it." What happened during W's second term was an abomination to the so called principles of the GOP and they got exactly what they deserved. But when the "Savior" get anointed master (see Nobel Prize) because he looks good in a suit AND he has shown time and again that he is in WAY over his head - he is a legislator/lawyer and NOT a leader - then you get the situation that we are in today which is a terrible apathy in the majority of the population. Unfortunately there are people in very powerful positions who are using that apathy and busyness/ignorance to their advantage - ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

Now if you like to post as a sort of gallows humor then keep on keeping on. Don't let me get in the way of your happiness. But if you think that rubber stamping the Dems because they "mean well" and refute anything out of the mouths of the Pubs because "Bush is Evil" then you may as well get in line with those in the video. We all are going to be there in time.

[108]

Is there a single negative aspect of our economy that he is responsible for?

it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes


is he responsible for the crash?

is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?

is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?

is he responsible for the wars?

is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?

is he responsible for the rising costs of education?



i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"

we deserve who we elect

[gator421]

Conservatives are such free thinkers.

[rivergator]

it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes


is he responsible for the crash?

is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?

is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?

is he responsible for the wars?

is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?

is he responsible for the rising costs of education?



i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"

we deserve who we elect

if you remember, we had some conservatives blaming Obama for the crash before he was elected, claiming the economy collapsed because everyone knew he was going to win the election.

[RealGatorFan]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.

Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.

[rivergator]

I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.

Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.

IF you don't think Bush blamed Clinton for anything then you simply weren't paying attention.
Otherwise, the 2008 was Clinton's fault?

[108]

I know of 12 people that could have fixed the problems he inherited. Yet, President "I Never Worked a Day of My Life" Obama uses that as an excuse.

Funny, Bush inherited 2 busted bubbles from the Clinton administration that paved the way for the 2008 recession. The NASDAQ alone lost 60% in one year during the election year. Yet, I never ever heard him pointing fingers at Clinton. He also inherited 9/11 since Clinton was the President during the first attempt to destroy the WTC in 1993. Clinton had chances to take out OBL but was too busy getting his shaft waxed. Yet, Bush didn't whine and use that as an excuse.

a simple google search completely disagrees with your charge

and ironic, because conservatives blame an initiative under Clinton to help lower income families buy homes, as the culprit for the private sector committing rampant fraud, despite studies showing it had very little to do with it

[PIMking]

yet there is no proof he has exacerbated it, and certainly no proof that so-called conservative fixes would help it

less regulation and trickle down were part of the problem to begin with

you mean like forcing banks to give home loans to people who couldn't afford them?

[g8trjax]

IF you don't think Bush blamed Clinton for anything then you simply weren't paying attention.
Otherwise, the 2008 was Clinton's fault?



Hey, I voted for hope and change damn it.

[108]

you mean like forcing banks to give home loans to people who couldn't afford them?

haha just on time, look above

they "forced" nothing, and it has been studies several times independently to show that those initiatives were not the cause of the housing bubble and subsequent crash

if you need links, ill provide

[92gator]

What we are trying to educate you about is that you are coming on here and complaining about Obama doing many of the same things Bush did, for which you had no complaints. It's called hypocrisy.

From 2000-2008, the standard for the executive branch changed to, "we'll do what we want unless you have the stones to prosecute." I told you all you wouldn't like it when the other side played the same game. You just laughed it off.

Don't worry pubs--only 3 years and 11 months until Hillary's inauguration. Feel the burn.

That hypocrisy pales in comparison to the left's nuclear meltdown over Bush's policies, turned to rabid support for the same polices, amplified and on steroids.

:lie:

[rivergator]

Every president has talked about how bad the conditions were when he took office and how hard he's worked to fix them. The difference this time around is that every time Obama or anyone in his administration mentions that, we conservative feigning protest with "OMG, he's blaming his Bush!!! No president has ever done that before!!!"

Even now on this thread, we've someone claiming that Bush never blamed Clinton. It's simply not true.

Aug. 2002:

Although last week's revision of U.S. gross domestic product data for 2001 may have been old news for the economy, it was something of a stroke of luck for President Bush, who has since used it as evidence that he inherited an economic mess when he took office.

Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, in separate speeches Wednesday, both claimed the U.S. economy was already in recession when they were inaugurated in January 2001, implying the blame for the slowdown rested on President Clinton's shoulders.

link (http://money.cnn.com/2002/08/07/news/economy/bush_cheney/)

[92gator]

^^^ (follow up to my prior post)--did you forget:

"...its unpatriotic!" re. bush's 435 Billion dollar deficit...

vs. 4 consecutive years of > TRILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL DEFICITS.

[108]

^^^ (follow up to my prior post)--did you forget:

"...its unpatriotic!" re. bush's 435 Billion dollar deficit...

vs. 4 consecutive years of > TRILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL DEFICITS.

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion? did you forget what ensues after a recession and a massive one at that? hmm deficits go up don't they

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down

[g8orbill]

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........

[fredsanford]

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........

He's not destroying anything. He's repairing pub damage and trying to stave off more.

[DieAGator]

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion?

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down

Nonetheless, Obama's done nothing but create additional debt. Shall I post the video of your President harshly criticizing Bush for borrowing on the "bank of China credit card"? You're letting your President off the hook, why? What do we have to show for this man's spending? This country is NOT going to be better off for this asshat President's inability to balance a checkbook. If this were Bush or any other Republican you and yours would be furious. What's wrong with people like you? Serious question.

[gatormoe1]

its really unfortunate for you victims to know that a good bit of this country understands he was not at fault for the economic calamity he inherited, nor thinking he could magically fix it

what to speak of the wars

How long will you keep playing that same old song?

He has done NOTHING to fix it. Stop apologizing over and over for a completely inept president. It's really getting old.

[G8trGr8t]

it doesn't matter does it....its just what one believes


is he responsible for the crash?

is he responsible for the tremendous debt he inherited?

is he responsible for the debt created after the crash to soften the blow that all presidents have taken previously?

is he responsible for the wars?

is he responsible for the sky rocketing health care prices of the last decade or so?

is he responsible for the rising costs of education?



i'll tell you who is more responsible than any president, and its us....its us who allowed wars and debt, and Gov being in bed with the banks and looking the other way while they loot the country...its us who allows our healthcare system to not have any costs controls....and its us who allows our elected officials to be bought and sold to the highest bidder in the name of "free speech"

we deserve who we elect

I will take that as a no.

crash. no not his responsibility. failure to adress the too big to fail problem and only increase the magnitude by regulations and laws that favor bigger companies over small to midsize companies is his fault.

debt to soften the crash. yes it is his fault that the debt was incurred and it will produce no long term benefit. that debt could have been improving ports, building nat gas infrastructure and fueling stations and changing big rigs to use our own resources but instead we get lifetime unemployment benefits, blowout numbers of people being approved for permanent disability, massive increases of food stamp recipients, no real tax reform because he would not compromise, bankrupt solar and wind companies with his buddies cashing out along the way...I could go on but the debt incurred has not been invested to produce a return, it has been squandered and wasted with little to nothing to show for it. debt incurred at low levels and properly invested to produce long term gains in excess of the cost of capital can be a good thing but debt incurred so the CEO can throw a party is a bad thing. the total misappropriation of capital from the debt is squarely on his desk.

wars. no not his. no more than the dotcom bubble was bush's. inability to reign in the MIC is his. It takes leadership and compromsie to control spending. 0 has demonstrated neither.

And yes we are responsible for putting this administration and his the democratic controlled senate into powere and keeping them in power. SO this piss ant no growth continually inflating dollar depreciating chronic unemployment gubmnt dependent economy is what we get. But no I didn't vote for that so am I one of the group that is responsible for this mess?

Tort reform and requirements for higher rates for lifestyle choices that drive up cost of medical care would have been much better than 0care.

Cost of higher ed is gubmnt inflated bubble. Remeber "Everybody deserves to own a home?" It ahs been replaced by "Everybody deserves to go to college". Pure liberal fantasy bs that creates bubbles while inflating the cost of whatever fill in the blank item the gubmnt thinks everybody deserves.

Lifetime caps on gubmnt assistance. get rid of cradle to grave multi-generational welfare families. norplant. if you can't afford the kids you have, you shouldn't have any more. we need leadership and 0 doesn't provide any.

and he has a golden goose sitting on his front porch in the form of ultracheap natural gas. US has the cheapest energy in the world but he refuses to embrace it to reduce our trade deficits and to lower the cost of ding business in this country.

dollar depriciation--all his. $4 gas, all his. food inflation, all his.

spin it anyway you want but all he has done is continue to stear the ship downstream towards the cliff while spending like a drunken sailor at a strip club because turning it would require too much effort and drop his favoribility rating. his primary focus is on being popular and it doesn't matter if it all crashes and burns because he knows he has got his now so he is after securing his legacy as being popular and trying to keep his coalition of minority interests pacified long enough to get out of office befor eit crashes.

[jdrgator]

the left loves how prezbo is destroying this country and that he is taking it to the makers and giving it to the takers-they will never find fault with the ........


Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.

[T3goalie]

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.

[fredsanford]

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.

He was, for 6 years out of 8.

Inconvenient facts again.

[g8orbill]

Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.

we shall see just what your prez does over the next 3+ years and if we are anywhere near the same country economically or freedom wise too

I will keep praying Psalm 109 verse 8

[madgator]

Obama inherited nothing. He was a friggin US Senator too. The Dems controlled congress. Idiot GWB was not a dictator with a veto proof majority. The Dems and Republicans created the problems together over a period of years. As soon as people acknowledge this simple fact, solutions will be possible. The biggest barrier to anything getting done is accepting the nonsense that one party is culpable and the other is not. Otherwise it is just more of the same "its the other guys fault" BS.


and Obama, with the assistance of his propaganda wing (the MSM), is a master of playing the game of blame while at the same time effectively expanding the problems that created the issues in the first place.

[madgator]

did you forget that by the time Obama took office the deficit was already over a trillion? did you forget what ensues after a recession and a massive one at that? hmm deficits go up don't they

this year it will be back under a trillion and going down



Bush's budget for 2008 was roughly $585 billion deficit. The number went up over $1 trillion after emergency spending.


now, we have no emergencies and we have been over $1 trillion every year that Obama has been in office. Why?

[madgator]

Hemming and hawing saying that any president is trying to destroy the country is just silly. It's hollow ranting. It might make you feel better, bill, but it's not rooted in fact.


or you could address any of the points brought up in the post above this one.....


lots of facts there for you to address. or ignore

your choice

[viningsgator]

Chronically high unemployment, record number of folks on food stamps, record number of people getting social security disability and not to mention trillion dollar deficits. I don't get why anyone would be concerned?

[jdrgator]

we shall see just what your prez does over the next 3+ years and if we are anywhere near the same country economically or freedom wise too

I will keep praying Psalm 109 verse 8

Well, I sure don't want to be anything near what we were in 07-08 when it imploded. So if we are very different, than that is likely a very good thing.

[fredsanford]

Chronically high unemployment, record number of folks on food stamps, record number of people getting social security disability and not to mention trillion dollar deficits. I don't get why anyone would be concerned?

#s 2 and 3 on your list are directly related to #1.

Since American companies are making record profits, the idea that the country will explode with domestic job growth if unleashed by a pub prez are pure poppycock.

They will just take any breaks they receive and hire more Filipinos or pocket larger bonuses. They have learned to live on "lean and mean."

[northgagator]

#s 2 and 3 on your list are directly related to #1.

Since American companies are making record profits, the idea that the country will explode with domestic job growth if unleashed by a pub prez are pure poppycock.

They will just take any breaks they receive and hire more Filipinos or pocket larger bonuses. They have learned to live on "lean and mean."


Are you saying that there is no chance that we are not under achievers?

Are you saying that we should continue to have these record profits while unemployment is around 8% and 89 million people who have left the work force?

Are you saying that we should be complacent to and continue to redistribute wealth away from the earners to the none earners?

Are you saying that we as a country would not be more productive if we have more of our unemployed/underemployed/out-of-the-workforce citizens?

[ncgatr1]

So let me get this straight, the war in Iraq caused the 660 trillion dollar global economic meltdown? The fact you speak of wars, hence more than one, you are referring to the war in Afghanistan too, I guess you forgot Al Qaeda was based there and we would have gone in there regardless of whom was president. So in conclusion the war in Iraq created all this mess and it was George Bush, when he was head of the New York Fed and also president, turned the blind eye on the Wall Street credit default Ponzi scheme because he was using all this money to fund his war in Iraq, ok, got it.

[fredsanford]

Are you saying that there is no chance that we are not under achievers?

Are you saying that we should continue to have these record profits while unemployment is around 8% and 89 million people who have left the work force?

Are you saying that we should be complacent to and continue to redistribute wealth away from the earners to the none earners?

Are you saying that we as a country would not be more productive if we have more of our unemployed/underemployed/out-of-the-workforce citizens?

I am saying that the corporate oligarchs are responsible for all of this.

If they would quit focusing on their obscene bonuses and start hiring again, the economy would boom with demand and take off again.

It would make their comp go down from mind boggling to merely amazing, but it would be the right thing to do.

[g8orbill]

all the libbies who have posted on this thread have proven the OP's point

[gatorpa]

Obama's a lefty it never the fault of a lib, it is always the fault of his "circumstances", that is unless there is an R after your name then it is totally your own fault and you deserve it cause you screwed or cheated to get where you are.

[gatorpa]

Can you ever point to a single aspect of an economy and say "Yes, that was completely the president's doing?"
That's not to say he has zero impact. He should certainly have some. But what facet is strictly the president's fault/credit?

Funny, but it is all Bush's fault......

[gatorpa]

Says the guy linking Limbaugh.com? Lol

If presidents faced the music in this country, Bush would be in jail in The Hague and Cheney would be facing a firing squad.

For what exactly?

[The_Graygator]

Nope, he will never be held accountable for anything as long as he has Pravda (the American mainstream media), to protect him.