Again with the refs....

[gatormoe1]

There were some really f'n bad calls in this game and frankly I'm getting sick of it. Not even going over any other calls, how on earth can someone from the other side of the court call travel on Young when he didnt have possession of the ball? Furthermore, wh didnt the ref with the clear view overrule him?

If we get that call I think it was a 5 pt game with the momentum, instead they get the ball and take a 3. Ballgame. I'm sick of these refs and having absolutely no accountability. When does it stop?

[gatorfansrule]

We have no room to talk about the refs in this game. What about Rosario pushing the guy on the baseline and him getting called for the foul? Young got called for a bogus travel, but minutes later they called traveling on their guy that fell to the ground.

[Matthanuf06]

The problem is we choke under pressure and collapse when big leads are chipped down. It's been our MO over the past few years.

[ugaGator]

It won't. Because these refs never have a backbone. It's pretty simple - make the right call. Won't ever happen if we're on the court.

Pressey should've been fouled out with 3-4 min left in the game. It's sickening.

[tcmba]

If we had just hit our free throws we would have won easily. The refs are always bad on the road but we beat ourselves.

[sleeze]

We got robbed....sorry..but im not usually a sore loser....i can take a loss. But Missouri got plenty of help

[ugaGator]

We have no room to talk about the refs in this game. What about Rosario pushing the guy on the baseline and him getting called for the foul? Young got called for a bogus travel, but minutes later they called traveling on their guy that fell to the ground.

I think you forgot about the one where they called Rosario on a charge when it should've been an +1 for him.

[gatormoe1]

We are so much better than Mizzu its not even funny. Refs definitely kept them in this game.

[UTGator]

It went both ways brother. We just choked down the stretch. It happens. We will learn from it and get better. I didn't agree with the way Billy substituted in the last 15 minutes of the game. Frazier hardly played in the second half even though he was shooting well and playing smart.

[number1]

If we had just hit our free throws we would have won easily. The refs are always bad on the road but we beat ourselves.

Doesn't seem like the refs are in our favor in Gainesville either.

[lhnewman]

on the Young "walk" Murphy was being mugged by Bowers....clearly

[jcp]

We have no room to talk about the refs in this game. What about Rosario pushing the guy on the baseline and him getting called for the foul? Young got called for a bogus travel, but minutes later they called traveling on their guy that fell to the ground.

And no technical for smashing the ball to the ground?

[bakaduin]

There was literally one call that they made FOR us that shouldn't have been (the Rosario foul they called on Bowers). Otherwise every 50/50 call went for Mizzou. I think they got just about every charge/block call wrong in this game.

[chargator]

If u did not see we were jobbed.....then there is NO further comment needed.

[lkldgator87]

We choked that game away, just like Arizona. Don't blame it on the refs. WE LOST!!!

[gatormoe1]

It went both ways brother. We just choked down the stretch. It happens. We will learn from it and get better. I didn't agree with the way Billy substituted in the last 15 minutes of the game. Frazier hardly played in the second half even though he was shooting well and playing smart.

BS, Mizzu got so many calls in their favor its sickening. They came at key moments in the game too. For example, the 2 quick ones on Prather, neither of which were legit fouls.

Refs and FT shooting gave this Mizzu team the win.

[malscott]

all the other teams manage with crappy reffin' ...just part of the deal. It's like trying to beat the champ. If it's close or a tie the champ gets the call. Just have to play well enough so it just don't matter. Not there yet. This team simply lost. JMHO...but, be that as it may, yes the reff's blow.

[gatorgrl76]

Horrible officiating tonight. They played a huge part in the victory for Mizzou. That and missed free throws.

[gatormoe1]

You guys are so full of shit!! We choked that game away, just like Arizona. Don't blame it on the refs. WE LOST!!!

Clean your glasses.

[GatorEcon]

This all comes down to not being able to go inside. Threes are nice and make the huge margins we have but that is because we've been shutting down opponents. I'd much rather take the higher percentage chance of a 2 in close situations. This is exactly what happened at Arizona and that 3 attempt near the end. One of the worse decisions I've seen because it forced us to have to make another 3 further decreasing our probability. I don't care how the good the season's numbers are- I do not like a 50% chance of winning or losing. This one really stings. I thought I was going to bed early and happy tonight but it looks like it's going to a long night of studying and drinking.

[born2beagator]

both ways. Uf is just not mentally tough enough to over come it in a close game. WE missed the free throws, not the refs

[GatorJeff]

There were some really f'n bad calls in this game and frankly I'm getting sick of it. Not even going over any other calls, how on earth can someone from the other side of the court call travel on Young when he didnt have possession of the ball? Furthermore, wh didnt the ref with the clear view overrule him?

If we get that call I think it was a 5 pt game with the momentum, instead they get the ball and take a 3. Ballgame. I'm sick of these refs and having absolutely no accountability. When does it stop?

That was the ball game. Young didn't move a millimeter on the court. Five and the ball suddenly turns into a two point game, momentum irreversibly lost.

[gatordavisl]

They called it the same way on Mizzou. Did they get some home calls? Probably. We, however, missed our FTs. We CHOKED. End of game

[gtr2x]

Bad officiating, but still should have won. Still shocked that KB or Rosario didn't drive the basket, but time to move on to next game. Looks like Bama game just got a little bigger.

[60sDCGator]

Officiating is the major reason average to above average teams like Missouri and Arkansas are unbeatable at home, but can't do squat on the road. That is the one thing about college basketball I do not like. Every SEC crew calls the games differential and it is the same in football as well.

[60sDCGator]

Oops! Typo....I meant differently.

[gatormoe1]

All things equal, we are around 15-20 points better than Mizzu.

[ArtVandelay]

The refs were awful, but we choked really bad tonight.

[GatorJeff]

all the other teams manage with crappy reffin' ...just part of the deal. It's like trying to beat the champ. If it's close or a tie the champ gets the call. Just have to play well enough so it just don't matter. Not there yet. This team simply lost. JMHO...but, be that as it may, yes the reff's blow.

Exactly what other teams go into hostile environments and overcome "crappy reffin"?

[63gator]

Has billy ever drawn up a good play for a winning shot? Might as well not call timeout.

[sleeze]

Officiating is the major reason average to above average teams like Missouri and Arkansas are unbeatable at home, but can't do squat on the road. That is the one thing about college basketball I do not like. Every SEC crew calls the games differential and it is the same in football as well.

Exactly,,,,we are clearly the better team than Missouri.

[allig8ralli]

You guys are so full of shit!! We choked that game away, just like Arizona. Don't blame it on the refs. WE LOST!!!

So the travel on young had no bearing on the game? Up 4 with the ball with 3 mins left compared to up 1 after they hit a big 3. Get real.

[TheSchmidt]

We completely choked at the end. But, after Murphy hit that transition three to put us up 13, every single call went Missouri's way to bring them back in the game. Otherwise, we likely have a comfortable lead throughout. We obviously need to execute much better down the stretch and hit our free throws, but that biased reffing was ridiculous. The two that stand out in my mind are the previously mentioned Rosario charge, and the play where Prather got ran over and got called for a block after the shot was missed.

We didn't lose because of the refs, we lost because we choked at the end again. But the refs had a major part letting Missouri claw back in the game.

[born2beagator]

We are a better team than Mizzou, but we most certainly did not get robbed tonight. When you miss that many FTs, that is all on you

[gatormoe1]

Refs played a huge part in letting Mizzu back in the game, that can't be denied. Did we lose by any single call from the refs? Not really, but one could say that absolutely terrible call on Young "traveling" and the series of calls after we were up 13, really helped Mizzu bring it to a manageable score late in the game. History shows close games late go to the home team.

[spongeBob88]

on the Young "walk" Murphy was being mugged by Bowers....clearly

Yes, the travel shouldn't have even been a question with that "mugging" taking place. Of course the announcers don't say anything even though it was right in front of the camera on the replay.

Also agree with the posters saying the refs were terrible and kept Mizzou in the game but we should have won regardless. Our play was just as embarrassing as the officiating at times.

[The_Graygator]

There were some really f'n bad calls in this game and frankly I'm getting sick of it. Not even going over any other calls, how on earth can someone from the other side of the court call travel on Young when he didnt have possession of the ball? Furthermore, wh didnt the ref with the clear view overrule him?

If we get that call I think it was a 5 pt game with the momentum, instead they get the ball and take a 3. Ballgame. I'm sick of these refs and having absolutely no accountability. When does it stop?


It was amazing to watch the charges by Mizzou when they were literallty running over our kids under the net and the refs calling them blocks. Then again, the reaching in, the hacks, the wrsit chops, and no calls.

I have about had it with CBB refs who allows themsleves to be influenced by home town crowds and not do their friggin;g jobs.

Mizzou must have gotten a good 12 - 16 points off bullsh*t, home town cookin' tonight.

Myself? I'm not really surprised because teams that go "undefeated" at home as long as teams like Mizzou do, are usually the beneficiaries of home town cookin' like tonight.

Just yet another example of the atrocious, incompetent officiating in CBB today

[gatorev12]

It was amazing to watch the charges by Mizzou when they were literallty running over our kids under the net and the refs calling them blocks. Then again, the reaching in, the hacks, the wrsit chops, and no calls.

I have about had it with CBB refs who allows themsleves to be influenced by home town crowds and not do their friggin;g jobs.

Mizzou must have gotten a good 12 - 16 points off bullsh*t, home town cookin' tonight.

Myself? I'm not really surprised because teams that go "undefeated" at home as long as teams like Mizzou do, are usually the beneficiaries of home town cookin' like tonight.

Just yet another example of the atrocious, incompetent officiating in CBB today

Agree with everything here. 100% SPOT ON, sir.

I can take a loss when we flat-out didn't show up and were outplayed/hustled (KState). I can take a loss when the other team plays out of their mind and the breaks don't go our way (Arkansas). Hey...those will happen to any team.

But games when the officiating CLEARLY benefits one team over another and CLEARLY causes a 10-15 point swing in a game is unacceptable to me.

I'm not saying Florida shouldn't have done better. We missed several chances and no one can deny that either.

No one can't deny that the officials botched at least 4-5 charge calls that were made incorrectly against our team (leading to several points by Mizzou in the process); the bogus 2 quick fouls on Prather in the second half; over the back not being called the entire game, etc.

Officials need to man up and do their F'ing jobs. I don't buy the "well, the crowd influences their calls--they're only human" excuse. If they allow fans to get in the way of their jobs and making the right call, then they don't deserve to be officials, period.

[gatormann]

Make more free throws.

[tommyuf21]

That's life on the road in the SEC. You either get enough separation so its not an issue or it becomes a factor that works against you.

Still, two of their best players were in serious foul trouble and we went to the line quite a few times.

I have seen us jobbed by the refs on numerous occasions, but this was far from the worst treatment we have ever received.

This game was lost due to a number of factors that pretty much everyone has hit on, not because we were done in by the refs.

[Gator_Joe]

We are the worst fan base about blaming the ref's for a loss. Good teams overcome officiating. Honestly as far as I could see, quite a few calls and touch fouls went our way. Bottom line, we shot ourselves out of the game from the three point line. I find myself repeating it year after year. Live by the three, die by the three. Not to mention we couldn't hit a dang free throw. Chalk this one up as a loss due to the team. It was not because of the refs!

[Distant Gator]

The officiating was bad- no doubt- for all the reasons mentioned.

And I was shocked the Mizzou players did not receive a T. They showed major disrespect to the refs. What a contrast to our players.

I thought a player slamming the ball down ALWAYS got a T- but different rules for the home team I guess. It's no wonder Mizzou has that great home record- the officiating can overcome a lot.

All that said- the guys really need to work on hitting FT. Missing 3 front ends in a row is inexcusable.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Terrible officiating, but it wasn't exactly one-sided and it didn't cost us the game.

[dakcman]

Terrible officiating, but it wasn't exactly one-sided and it didn't cost us the game.

Yep - we had some bad calls against us but Mizzou arguably had even worse calls. In all it evened out - both teams had 15 PFs. What lost this game was poor shooting, missed FT's, and the inability to get the ball inside.

[GothamGator]

The refs were so horrible as to be incompetent, but both teams were on the wrong end of their calls.

To blame the refs for this loss is to avoid facing the real problems facing this team.

[kellgator]

Yep - we had some bad calls against us but Mizzou arguably had even worse calls. In all it evened out - both teams had 15 PFs. What lost this game was poor shooting, missed FT's, and the inability to get the ball inside.

Add poor decision making down the stretch and you've nailed it!

[gator07]

The travelling call on PY was a dagger, but I actually thought Missouri was getting the raw end of the deal for most of the night. A couple of phantom calls where they "fouled" PY and MR in the key with little-to-no contact, plus Murphy clearly hacked one of their guys laying in a ball with no call.

While Missouri was heating up, we got a lot of whistles in our favor that really helped us stem the tide by calming the crowd down and putting us on the line. Unfortunately we just didnt hit any of those 1-and-1s.

[gator07]

Here's one thing I've always wondered about basketball officiating: Why is it ok for refs in basketball to demonstrably make calls and get into the emotion/momentum of the game and feed into the crowd? Think of a guy driving strong to the hoop for a layup only for the ref to practically jump out to mid-court with multiple blows of the whistle, pausing dramatically to get all eyes on him then making a forceful charge call while the crowd goes nuts.

Everyone knows that the home team always get favorable calls, but why would the powers that be allow refs to even appear so blatantly biased/invested/emotionally caught up in the game?

Think of Driskel's long TD pass against USC that was called back. Could you imagine if the referee made the holding call in any kind of manner other than robotic?

You see it in baseball as well. Its just unbelievable to me that you wouldnt instruct your officials to be completely emotionless.

[Profgator]

Did anyone else notice the Missouri player that had Murphy in a full Nelson for about five seconds when he was trying to go for a rebound?

[HALLGATOR]

The only foul that really got me ticked last night was the traveling call on Young. That one was worse than bad.

[gator7_5]

If we make that 3 at the end, this same thread is on MIzzou's board.

In fact, this thread is on half of the boards of teams who played last night.. lol.

[dakcman]

The only foul that really got me ticked last night was the traveling call on Young. That one was worse than bad.

Shortly thereafter they made the same call on Mizzou.

[gator7_5]

Did anyone else notice the Missouri player that had Murphy in a full Nelson for about five seconds when he was trying to go for a rebound?

haha yeah. It was seriously a fully engaged FULL (not half) Nelson.

[bposs]

Shortly thereafter they made the same call on Mizzou.

I think the announcers said that is an automatic travel call when you hit the ground with ball in hand.

Refs had nothing to do with this loss. It's on our guys. Make your free throws, we win. Plain and simple.

[gator07]

I think the announcers said that is an automatic travel call when you hit the ground with ball in hand.

Key words there.

In fact, the announcers didn't even acknowledge what a horrible call it was on Young even while showing repeated replays. They just kept going on and on about the size of PY's shoulders or something else just as stupid. That is a pet peeve of mine when announcers completely gloss over bad calls. They are so quick to chime in on what a great job refs do when they make the right call or get together on a tough decision, but sometimes I think they're scared to really get on them about bad calls.

[HALLGATOR]

Shortly thereafter they made the same call on Mizzou.

Just goes to show you how bad they were.

[HALLGATOR]

I think the announcers said that is an automatic travel call when you hit the ground with ball in hand.

Refs had nothing to do with this loss. It's on our guys. Make your free throws, we win. Plain and simple.

Best I remember he didn't have the ball when he hit the floor. He picked it up after he was down. This is done routinely when players are scrambling for the ball while on the court.

[wingtee]

There were some really f'n bad calls in this game and frankly I'm getting sick of it. Not even going over any other calls, how on earth can someone from the other side of the court call travel on Young when he didnt have possession of the ball? Furthermore, wh didnt the ref with the clear view overrule him?

If we get that call I think it was a 5 pt game with the momentum, instead they get the ball and take a 3. Ballgame. I'm sick of these refs and having absolutely no accountability. When does it stop?


Same story.. When the Gators lose it's the refs. Nothing to do with our ineptness late or giving the other guy credit. You and borntobeagator are really poor losers.:cry:

[SmootyGator]

It's OK to criticize the officiating, but if you think that's the main reason we lost then you need to get your head out of your azz.

[gator07]

It's OK to criticize the officiating, but if you think that's the main reason we lost then you need to get your head out of your azz.

I agree. I think that the officiating was bad, but when you look at the game as a whole, I would estimate that they slightly favored UF after you add it all up.

[SmootyGator]

I agree. I think that the officiating was bad, but when you look at the game as a whole, I would estimate that they slightly favored UF after you add it all up.

Yes, they had a bunch of bad calls on them as well. We just happened to have one of the most egregious with the PY travel call. To me, it was a turning point for the end of the game. I'll get over the officiating... it's no big deal. What really irks me is the three missed front-end free throws. You can't do anything about bad officiating, but you can do something about piss-poor FT shooting. I hope we fix that soon.

[wingtee]

Yes, they had a bunch of bad calls on them as well. We just happened to have one of the most egregious with the PY travel call. To me, it was a turning point for the end of the game. I'll get over the officiating... it's no big deal. What really irks me is the three missed front-end free throws. You can't do anything about bad officiating, but you can do something about piss-poor FT shooting. I hope we fix that soon.

Agree with you smoot on all accounts

[TampaGatorFan]

Hit your damn FTs, guys, and you win last night, refs or no refs.

[maverick]

On the road you dont get the calls, works both ways. Cant do anything about refs so work on your game.

When spurrier came, defeated all superstitions, cant win at night, cant win on tv, cant win in old gator bowl because field was crooked== dont count on fair calls when on the road, if maintained 12 pt lead not a problem.

[tommyuf21]

Here's one thing I've always wondered about basketball officiating: Why is it ok for refs in basketball to demonstrably make calls and get into the emotion/momentum of the game and feed into the crowd? Think of a guy driving strong to the hoop for a layup only for the ref to practically jump out to mid-court with multiple blows of the whistle, pausing dramatically to get all eyes on him then making a forceful charge call while the crowd goes nuts.

Everyone knows that the home team always get favorable calls, but why would the powers that be allow refs to even appear so blatantly biased/invested/emotionally caught up in the game?

Think of Driskel's long TD pass against USC that was called back. Could you imagine if the referee made the holding call in any kind of manner other than robotic?

You see it in baseball as well. Its just unbelievable to me that you wouldnt instruct your officials to be completely emotionless.

Many of them believe that they are part of the "show." They get caught up in the attention and they know the camera is on them.

A good official is one that noone knows is there and yet still does their job in a professional manner.

[Brewski]

It is such a cop out to blame the refs. If you are truly the better team you adjust and handle adversity. I don't believe the refs won the game. Missu was the better team last night.

[gatormoe1]

Some of you are missing the point. The refs didn't make us lose by themselves, we obviously created a lot of our own demise. The point is, after we were up 13 the refs created an environment for Mizzu to get back into the game.

Even at the point where we had a 5 point lead and they call a "travel" on Young, which IMO turned the game over. Towards the end, we missed FT's and turned the ball over, but only after the refs allowed Mizzu back in the game with terrible call after terrible call.