View Full Version : Andy Katz are you high?
danky1313
02-17-2013, 04:22 PM
On Sportscenter this afternoon they were asking him who is better team between Miami and UF and he says he'll slightly favor the Canes because they don't have a "bad loss". Umm they lost to freaking Florida Gulf Coast University dude. I'd say that's a "bad" loss.
He also said Larkin was a better PG than Scottie which IMO is not true. If anything I'd say it's a push if not favoring Scottie.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:23 PM
Did Uconn's coach call him stupid?
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:27 PM
I love how no matter what UF does, ESPN does everything they can to avoid talking about them.
Jonas
02-17-2013, 04:31 PM
What is our bad loss? Ark? They are actually pretty good at home. I wouldn't even consider it that bad of a loss in retrospect.
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 04:32 PM
Did Uconn's coach call him stupid?
not sure, but syracuse's coach called him an idiot:laugh:
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:32 PM
not sure, but syracuse's coach called him an idiot:laugh:
That's what it is, I don't know lol I don't pay attention to those crappy teams and their coaches =), either way he was right!
xenythx
02-17-2013, 04:35 PM
Miami is playing good ball but they're going to flame out early in the tournament. They're like Missouri from last year.
How much tournament experience does that entire team have between all of them? My guess is not many, if any at all. The NCAA tournament is a whole different ballgame.
mjbuf05
02-17-2013, 04:35 PM
What is our bad loss? Ark? They are actually pretty good at home. I wouldn't even consider it that bad of a loss in retrospect.
It isnt the loss that was bad, it was how bad we lost. Being down by 27 in the second half on espn is never good. But losing to florida gulf coast is 100 times worse.
tilly
02-17-2013, 04:38 PM
What is our bad loss? Ark? They are actually pretty good at home. I wouldn't even consider it that bad of a loss in retrospect.
It was lopsided...so that made it bad...but certainly not Florida Gulf Coast Community Academy Junior College For The Blind bad.
jeffphillips21
02-17-2013, 04:39 PM
my personal favorite is that every time we lay a beatdown on a team it's always about how bad the team played, not how good we are. There must be a LOT of bad teams out there
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:41 PM
my personal favorite is that every time we lay a beatdown on a team it's always about how bad the team played, not how good we are. There must be a LOT of bad teams out there
Yes I have noticed that. Or we beat down a team but they weren't that good anyways. But the crappy teams in the ACC, big 10, big 12, big east, PAC 12 are way better than the crappy teams in the SEC lol!!! Those analyst are so damn dumb!
rserina
02-17-2013, 04:42 PM
Katz usually talks up Florida, so I suspect it has more to do with the fact that Miami is very hot right now and has that great "resume building" win against Duke.
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 04:43 PM
miami IS playing well! they are in the discussion for a 1-seed. so is UF. still some basketball to be played. gotta keep winning to solidify that position. of course, instead of just talk, the discussion may likely be resolved on the court.
InstiGATOR1
02-17-2013, 04:43 PM
On Sportscenter this afternoon they were asking him who is better team between Miami and UF and he says he'll slightly favor the Canes because they don't have a "bad loss". Umm they lost to freaking Florida Gulf Coast University dude. I'd say that's a "bad" loss.
He also said Larkin was a better PG than Scottie which IMO is not true. If anything I'd say it's a push if not favoring Scottie.
The ironic thing is that Katz would probably say that Miami was missing Johnson. Of course this UF team has been dealing with injuries to important players all year long. Also the KSU loss has become much more respectable as the season has worn on. At the time it was not viewed very well.
GatorsGators
02-17-2013, 04:45 PM
Katz usually talks up Florida, so I suspect it has more to do with the fact that Miami is very hot right now and has that great "resume building" win against Duke.Even though Duke has been mediocre at best without Kelly.
GatorPlanet
02-17-2013, 04:46 PM
Well, I don't want facts to get in the way of Katz' opinion, but here they are:
In addition to losing to traditional powerhouse Florida Gulf Coast, the Hurricanes also lost to a 16-10 Indiana State team on a neutral court, and got blown out by Arizona by 19 on a neutral court. Yeah, the same Arizona team that beat Florida by 1 point on its home court.
ETGator1
02-17-2013, 04:51 PM
Somebody send Katz a memo about Yeguete playing 1 minute at Arkansas and that Prather was still hobbled from his high ankle sprain. Arkansas is a better loss than Florida Gulf Coast by far.
To split hairs about excellent PGs is ridiculous.
Wisconsin punk slapped Ohio State today so our ooc just took a turn for the better. Marquette is tied for the Big East lead to boot.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:53 PM
Can everyone seriously stop! Andy Katz says Miami is better than UF so of course it's true!!!!
GatorLurker
02-17-2013, 04:54 PM
Miami is playing well and deserves the attention they are getting.
And if they go to Duke and blow them off the floor I would say that would have earned the overall #1.
Tuesday will be a big night at Mizzou in terms of national media attention, but probably not that big a night in the grand scheme of things.
ETGator1
02-17-2013, 04:54 PM
I like Arizona. They'll make mistakes of the young, but they're awfully good. Sean Miller is a good coach. Still, we had them beat and should have beaten them on their court.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 04:56 PM
Miami is playing well and deserves the attention they are getting.
And if they go to Duke and blow them off the floor I would say that would have earned the overall #1.
Tuesday will be a big night at Mizzou in terms of national media attention, but probably not that big a night in the grand scheme of things.
But duke is overrated just as much as Mizzou, and UK this year. So I don't see how they can downplay the scenario if UF goes to Mizzou then to UK and wins. Also they still have to go to Tennessee who is a tough team to beat, at a tough venue.
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 04:56 PM
NEED to go into Columbia tuesday and get that win 'on the road'; otherwise, pundits just remember the 3 to 4 losses on the road - becomes a gnawing issue for UF's resume.
speedytilian87
02-17-2013, 05:06 PM
On Sportscenter this afternoon they were asking him who is better team between Miami and UF and he says he'll slightly favor the Canes because they don't have a "bad loss". Umm they lost to freaking Florida Gulf Coast University dude. I'd say that's a "bad" loss.
He also said Larkin was a better PG than Scottie which IMO is not true. If anything I'd say it's a push if not favoring Scottie.
Miami has the better resume.
63gator
02-17-2013, 05:09 PM
Is it really that preposterous to say that Miami is slightly better than UF? Come on guys have some perspective. Miami is playing unbelievable basketball right now. They may or may not be better but for someone to say that they are slightly better is not by any means ridiculous or crazy.
Bettin they put UF and canes in same bracket in NCAA:yes
lean_gator
02-17-2013, 05:11 PM
Hopefully we see them in the tourney......
mjbuf05
02-17-2013, 05:12 PM
Miami is a very good team. I would not want to play them until the final 4.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 05:13 PM
They stack the SEC agains each other in every sporting tournament. JMO
gatordee
02-17-2013, 05:13 PM
Arky will not shoot like they did against us the rest of the year. They just could not miss!
rserina
02-17-2013, 05:14 PM
Miami has the better resume.
Isn't that kind of the point of the thread, that it is debatable? The only reason Miami has the "better resume" is because of their wins over Duke and Michigan State, both at home. They haven't played a single tough road game and they lost big neutral court games. We haven't lost at home, but we then get downgraded because of the losses on the road and neutral courts. If Miami has a better resume because of big wins at home, then you can't really count our road losses against us without also taking theirs into account.
mjbuf05
02-17-2013, 05:19 PM
Nc st is better than any road win we have.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 05:23 PM
Nc st is better than any road win we have.
But Wisconsin and Marquette are both better than them...
GatorPlanet
02-17-2013, 05:23 PM
Is it really that preposterous to say that Miami is slightly better than UF? Come on guys have some perspective. Miami is playing unbelievable basketball right now. They may or may not be better but for someone to say that they are slightly better is not by any means ridiculous or crazy.
But that's not the point. Katz says Miami is better because they don't have a "bad loss." That's clearly not the case. All their losses are worse than ours.
mjbuf05
02-17-2013, 05:24 PM
But Wisconsin and Marquette are both better than them...
I agree but he was talking about road wins.
TampaGatorFan
02-17-2013, 05:25 PM
Katz was drunk. Only someone who was hammered would spout off such inane drivel.
GatorPlanet
02-17-2013, 05:27 PM
Still reeling from getting bitch-slapped by Boeheim.
UFish
02-17-2013, 05:34 PM
This is nothing to get worked up over. It's not like anyone with any credibility at all said it. Even if someone as sharp as Dykes or Bilas said it, and that would warrant some listening, it would still just be their opinion.
Andy Katz and his "basketball knowledge" aren't worth the time it took for me to post this.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 05:37 PM
I agree but he was talking about road wins.
Right, and I think home advantage only works against certain teams. I don't really think home field, should affect well coached teams like Florida.
tommyuf21
02-17-2013, 05:41 PM
I suprised that noone pointed out Katz's insistence that Will is lost for the season.
There's no factual information to back up that assertation.
speedytilian87
02-17-2013, 05:41 PM
Isn't that kind of the point of the thread, that it is debatable? The only reason Miami has the "better resume" is because of their wins over Duke and Michigan State, both at home. They haven't played a single tough road game and they lost big neutral court games. We haven't lost at home, but we then get downgraded because of the losses on the road and neutral courts. If Miami has a better resume because of big wins at home, then you can't really count our road losses against us without also taking theirs into account.
Haven't played a single tough road game? Ok.
Top 50 road wins:
@UNC
@NCST
we don't have a top 50 road run. Not ONE.
danky1313
02-17-2013, 05:51 PM
But that's not the point. Katz says Miami is better because they don't have a "bad loss." That's clearly not the case. All their losses are worse than ours.
EXACTLY!
Miami is a great team playing as good or better than anyone in the country. I think the Gators are better but it cab easily be argued the other way. However Katz made his point by saying Miami didn't have a bad loss and UF did at Arkansas. FACT is that is flat out NOT TRUE.
PIMking
02-17-2013, 05:56 PM
Didn't Ben Hill Griffin donate the land for FGCU?
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 06:06 PM
Didn't Ben Hill Griffin donate the land for FGCU?
probably. one of the roads bordering the 'international' airport in the vicinity is named ben hill griffin parkway or something like that.
SavageGator
02-17-2013, 06:13 PM
Taking off my orange & blue glasses for the moment the Canes are playing out of their minds perhaps as good as anyone even our Gators.
iam4uf
02-17-2013, 06:21 PM
If you think Miami is great, watch them play lol. Sure they played some very good basketball, but not as dominating as UF was. Look at UM vs. f$u or today at Clemson, who is 1 of 16 & the shots weren't all bad or well-defended by Miami they just aren't going it.
tommyuf21
02-17-2013, 06:33 PM
I think any argument made for either team has merit. At this point in time its meaningless, though.
I don't like sloppy journalism or reporting and the insistence that Yeguette is out for the year when there is no evidence of that makes Katz look somewhat biased.
GatorsGators
02-17-2013, 06:44 PM
Miami has the better resume.I agree, but that doesn't automatically make them a better team. And their resume isn't better than ours for the reasons that Katz listed.
Also, I'd take Wilbekin over Larkin. It's sort of a wash on offense, and Wilbekin is the much better defender.
gtr2x
02-17-2013, 06:45 PM
If you think Miami is great, watch them play lol. Sure they played some very good basketball, but not as dominating as UF was. Look at UM vs. f$u or today at Clemson, who is 1 of 16 & the shots weren't all bad or well-defended by Miami they just aren't going it.
This.
Good, yeah. Great, not yet, but definitely great by UM standards. :joecool:
rserina
02-17-2013, 07:06 PM
Haven't played a single tough road game? Ok.
Top 50 road wins:
@UNC
@NCST
we don't have a top 50 road run. Not ONE.
I forgot about NC State, but UNC won't be top 50 for long.
More to the point, how many top 50 road games have we played? One? And we lost by one point in that game to the same team that dominated Miami on a neutral court?
You kind of have to squint to make that an unquestionably better resume.
tilly
02-17-2013, 07:10 PM
Katz usually talks up Florida, so I suspect it has more to do with the fact that Miami is very hot right now and has that great "resume building" win against Duke.
True.
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dailydoublecat
02-17-2013, 07:21 PM
ESPN has an ACC bias!!! Miami when the lights are bright will choke IMHO. Florida is the real deal!!
gator1986
02-17-2013, 07:24 PM
ESPN has an ACC bias!!! Miami when the lights are bright will choke IMHO. Florida is the real deal!!
Agreed
gogators73
02-17-2013, 07:40 PM
I wonder if Clemson will be a bad loss?
gatorbrew
02-17-2013, 07:51 PM
I wonder if Clemson will be a bad loss?
Good lord. At this point, it should count as a bad win.
iam4uf
02-17-2013, 07:52 PM
I wonder if Clemson will be a bad loss?
Miami gets another win by the skin of their teeth in the weak ACC against a pitiful Clemson team.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 07:57 PM
Miami gets another win by the skin of their teeth in the weak ACC against a pitiful Clemson team.
Yea they keep talking how the SEC is weak.. Well damn the ACC is no better..
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 07:58 PM
don't know about that, ACC is much better than SEC this season, imo
gatordavisl
02-17-2013, 08:00 PM
Haven't played a single tough road game? Ok.
Top 50 road wins:
@UNC
@NCST
we don't have a top 50 road run. Not ONE.I'm going to play both sides of the fence here. First side: Top 50? Really? Sorry, these teams do not qualify.
gatordavisl
02-17-2013, 08:01 PM
The only reason Miami has the "better resume" is because of their wins over Duke and Michigan State, both at home. They haven't played a single tough road game and they lost big neutral court games. Other side of the fence. Miami currently has a better rpi (http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html) and SoS than the Gators.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 08:03 PM
don't know about that, ACC is much better than SEC this season, imo
With who? Duke? They will flake out, Miami as well, and NC State? I think Alabama, Arkansas, Mizzou, and UK ( with Noel ) obviously, could beat any of those teams... JMO...
gator7_5
02-17-2013, 08:03 PM
Miami is a very good team. I would not want to play them until the final 4.
Since we'll both be top 2 seeds it will be the elite 8 at earliest, possibly final four.
gtr2x
02-17-2013, 08:09 PM
With who? Duke? They will flake out, Miami as well, and NC State? I think Alabama, Arkansas, Mizzou, and UK ( with Noel ) obviously, could beat any of those teams... JMO...
Post game, Pearl said 3 tourney locks for the ACC and probably 2 or 3 others likely fwiw.
gator1986
02-17-2013, 08:15 PM
Post game, Pearl said 3 tourney locks for the ACC and probably 2 or 3 others likely fwiw.
Sounds about right, but if you let 2 or 3 other ACC teams to get in what about Arkansas or Alabama? If Tennessee wins out ( which they won't because of UF ) then they have to get looked at too...
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 08:34 PM
per sagarin:
4 ATLANTIC COAST = 81.72
7 SOUTHEASTERN = 80.21
mostly due to the bottom 3 cellar dwellers in the SEC ~~
kentucky and ole miss are dropping
duke - if they get their one star back will likely play alot better - as they were to start the season,
maryland may rise too
missouri likely on the rise, bama too...tenn is playing better too.
2 Florida = 93.28 21 3 77.83( 30)
5 Duke = 90.73 22 3 79.86( 3)
11 Miami-Florida = 89.77 20 3 79.48( 7)
19 Missouri = 86.10 18 7 75.91( 81)
20 Kentucky = 86.05 17 8 76.86( 56)
23 North Carolina = 85.77 16 8 78.43( 18)
26 NC State = 85.59 18 7 78.37( 22)
32 Virginia = 84.75 18 7 74.47( 109)
35 Mississippi = 84.04 19 6 75.01( 99)
50 Maryland = 82.36 18 7 74.07( 119)
54 Tennessee = 81.88 14 10 78.23( 25)
56 Arkansas = 81.49 16 9 75.57( 86)
59 Alabama = 81.36 16 8 77.17( 49)
75 Georgia Tech = 79.42 14 10 75.32( 92)
80 Clemson = 79.22 13 11 75.85( 82)
82 Texas A&M = 79.14 15 10 76.28( 71)
83 Florida State = 79.07 14 11 78.54( 15)
91 Georgia = 78.36 12 13 77.43( 41)
93 LSU = 78.16 15 8 73.98( 123)
101 Vanderbilt = 77.49 10 14 77.21( 47)
118 Boston College = 76.23 11 14 76.80( 59)
121 Wake Forest = 75.95 11 14 77.26( 45)
130 Virginia Tech = 75.03 11 14 77.28( 44)
133 Auburn = 74.67 9 16 76.68( 62)
169 South Carolina = 72.70 12 13 73.36( 138)
210 Mississippi State = 69.86 7 17 76.85( 57)
Droppingin
02-17-2013, 08:38 PM
Jesus christ folks, calm down. Feels like I am reading an old ladies club meeting minutes than a bb board.
I have been watching more than enough bb on espn this season and they are giving UF props frequently when discussing the national picture and the SEC.
Take a deep breath and think happy, positive thoughts; you can do it.
rserina
02-17-2013, 08:45 PM
Other side of the fence. Miami currently has a better rpi (http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html) and SoS than the Gators.
Is their RPI not unnecessarily boosted by the fact that the top team for Real Time is Duke? At some level this is just getting circular. That's why I don't get too flummoxed over Katz's opinion since I think it basically boils down to the big Duke win for most.
I still go back to 2007. We were I believe sixth in the NCAA-released RPI, yet wound up with the top overall seed rather than the Ohio State team with a putative advantage in RPI, as I recall. We were so effective at both ends of the court and so dominant outside of those isolated losses that the committee had no qualms about seeding us first.
Miami is playing great right now and I am thrilled for Kadji. But it doesn't take too long watching the two teams to know were at least as good, if not significantly better. As some poster said facetiously a few weeks back, it isn't like we have a big tournament at the end of the season to figure this out or anything.
don23lucia
02-17-2013, 08:50 PM
not sure, but syracuse's coach called him an idiot:laugh:
And I agree with him
DreadnaughtCane
02-17-2013, 09:12 PM
Is their RPI not unnecessarily boosted by the fact that the top team for Real Time is Duke? At some level this is just getting circular.
As an avid RPI follower in basketball and baseball, I know that one game doesn't artificially hurt or help anyone. For example, after Duke lost to Maryland, they dropped all the way to #1 in the RPI. If you take away the Duke game, Miami might swap with #3, but that's about it.
As for the overall tone, remember that it was Katz, not Miami, who said that Miami is better. I know that our fans are very respectful of the way UF is playing right now. Instead of ripping each other, I think it would be great for the state if we were both #1 seeds.
benheb
02-17-2013, 09:24 PM
Is their RPI not unnecessarily boosted by the fact that the top team for Real Time is Duke? At some level this is just getting circular. That's why I don't get too flummoxed over Katz's opinion since I think it basically boils down to the big Duke win for most.
I still go back to 2007. We were I believe sixth in the NCAA-released RPI, yet wound up with the top overall seed rather than the Ohio State team with a putative advantage in RPI, as I recall. We were so effective at both ends of the court and so dominant outside of those isolated losses that the committee had no qualms about seeding us first.
Miami is playing great right now and I am thrilled for Kadji. But it doesn't take too long watching the two teams to know were at least as good, if not significantly better. As some poster said facetiously a few weeks back, it isn't like we have a big tournament at the end of the season to figure this out or anything.
^this
I don't care about rankings, RPI, and "opinion" if we end up a one seed. There is a lot of basketball to be played and the Gators just need to take care of business. If Gators deserve it, and I believe they do - they'll win enough games to be in position to get that one seed. The example cited above shows that many things go into committee seeding decisions - and already, not many folks are disagreeing with the fact the Gators look like a one seed.
tommyuf21
02-17-2013, 09:55 PM
As an avid RPI follower in basketball and baseball, I know that one game doesn't artificially hurt or help anyone. For example, after Duke lost to Maryland, they dropped all the way to #1 in the RPI. If you take away the Duke game, Miami might swap with #3, but that's about it.
As for the overall tone, remember that it was Katz, not Miami, who said that Miami is better. I know that our fans are very respectful of the way UF is playing right now. Instead of ripping each other, I think it would be great for the state if we were both #1 seeds.
I just take issue with Katz saying that Yeguette won't be back. He has no idea. I've read and heard nothing that confirms that. And to say that is one of the reason's that he considers Miami to be better just makes its worse.
GatorsGators
02-17-2013, 10:46 PM
RPI is a good judge of how difficult a team's schedule is and how that team faced against that schedule, but it's not a good predictor of future matchups or an indicator of how good a team truly is. Nor is it meant to be.
Katz and other analysts who claim that one team would beat another team because the former team beat a team whom the latter team hasn't even played are extremely silly. You can say the same for bad losses as you can say for good wins. Just because Florida lost at an Arkansas team who was playing over their heads doesn't mean Miami would beat Florida. Hech, Arkansas probably would've beat Miami in the same situation.
Miami beat a short-handed Duke to a pulp, but that doesn't make them a better team than Florida. Sure, it might give them an advantage when looking at the teams' resumes, but a resume does not a team make.
As for the actual basketball analysis that Katz tried to offer, I just disagree. I'd take Wilbekin over Larkin any day. That's not to say that Larkin isn't a good player; he is. But Wilbekin has been executing his role to near perfection lately.
rserina
02-17-2013, 10:53 PM
As for the overall tone, remember that it was Katz, not Miami, who said that Miami is better. I know that our fans are very respectful of the way UF is playing right now. Instead of ripping each other, I think it would be great for the state if we were both #1 seeds.
Wasn't really ripping you so much as the notion that Miami's resume was clearly better than ours. I think it is debatable, but I also said I thought they were playing well and was happy for Ken.
gatorbogey
02-17-2013, 11:01 PM
would be quite rare to not only have one florida school as a 1 seed, but two! two would be historic!
gatorev12
02-18-2013, 01:27 AM
You can make an argument that miami has a better resume than Florida, sure...but not based on the comically poor reasoning Katz used.
Florida's worst loss (Arkansas) is much better than miami losing to Florida Gulf Coast and Indiana State.
For a respected journalist to even utter that statement is ridiculous. Just really goes to show you that most "sports journalists" put about as much time into preparation for work as prostitutes.
regurgigator
02-18-2013, 02:26 AM
I embrace any of the talking heads that embrace Miami (or any of the other #1 seed contenders) over UF. I think we're a very special team, but I'd actually prefer that most of the media not pick up on that just yet :joecool:
If you think Miami is great, watch them play lol. Sure they played some very good basketball, but not as dominating as UF was. Look at UM vs. f$u or today at Clemson, who is 1 of 16 & the shots weren't all bad or well-defended by Miami they just aren't going it.
I'm with you. I'm not as interested in the strength of our resume (which is fine) as I am in how we are playing - which is fantastic.
I've only seen a couple of Miami's games, and while they looked pretty good, I didn't see anything too overwhelming. I've been more impressed with a couple of other teams, Indiana and Mich State, but I haven't seen a whole lot of other teams besides the Gators so far this year.
I'd say Miami's offense looked very good - probably on a par with UF (who is turning out to be a much better offensive team than I expected). But, Miami's defense looked only looked good to me; I didn't think their defense was very good to great, which is how I grade UF's defense.
benheb
02-18-2013, 02:33 AM
You can make an argument that miami has a better resume than Florida, sure...but not based on the comically poor reasoning Katz used.
Florida's worst loss (Arkansas) is much better than miami losing to Florida Gulf Coast and Indiana State.
For a respected journalist to even utter that statement is ridiculous. Just really goes to show you that most "sports journalists" put about as much time into preparation for work as prostitutes.
And I suspect the prostitutes are bringing a much better product to market. :joecool:
orangeblueorangeblue
02-18-2013, 09:03 AM
Can't believe the thin skin around here. Miami is an awesome team. Did not their early season losses come with one or more starter out?
Good god, people.
orangeblueorangeblue
02-18-2013, 09:07 AM
Yeah, Scott was out against FGCU and they had another starter injured in the game. So really we're talking about Arkansas (#75 RPI, big victory) versus Indiana State (#60 RPI, OT victory).
It's a fair argument, really.
GatorPlanet
02-18-2013, 12:31 PM
Yeah, Scott was out against FGCU and they had another starter injured in the game. So really we're talking about Arkansas (#75 RPI, big victory) versus Indiana State (#60 RPI, OT victory).
It's a fair argument, really.
So injuries excuse their losses but not ours? Also, Arky was a road game. Indiana State was a neutral site.
You're also ignoring the UM's blowout by Arizona on a neutral court.
Not saying UM isn't a great team. They clearly are. It's just that Katz apparently did no homework before arriving at his conclusion.
Gator_Bite
02-18-2013, 09:27 PM
Florida's Scoring Margin is DOUBLE Miami's (21.7 for Florida v 10.8 for Miami). Miami has a horrible scoring margin for a 3 loss team
I'm just not going to buy Miami as a National Title Threat. Nothing they do stands out to me as spectacular. They're good at a bunch of things, but not great at anything. They're weak at rebounding also. Plus their players have never played in the tourney before. They're prime for a 2nd round upset. Miami is fools gold right now
GatorPlanet
02-18-2013, 09:41 PM
I just can't forget that ridiculous, emasculating POEM that Jim Larranaga read to his George Mason team in the lockerroom before their Final Four game. Penises chopped cleanly off, they proceeded to get blown out by the Gators.
Hell, it wasn't even good poetry. It was sentimental Hallmark Card drivel. I wonder if he's got another master motivational pep talk ready for this year's tournament.
tommyuf21
02-18-2013, 11:38 PM
Just really goes to show you that most "sports journalists" put about as much time into preparation for work as prostitutes.
Prostitutes work much harder at their profession than most sports journalists.
Putting on that makeup and having that augmentation procedure is way more demanding than getting paid to opine on sports.
gatorev12
02-19-2013, 12:28 AM
Prostitutes work much harder at their profession than most sports journalists.
Putting on that makeup and having that augmentation procedure is way more demanding than getting paid to opine on sports.
That and I suspect that faking a convincing "O" is probably a heck of a lot harder to do than faking a legitimate opinion as a "sports journalist"--whereupon the louder a guy gets and the more douchebag a persona he adopts, he's instantly given credibility. Doesn't take any special knowledge of the game or even require you to watch the games, really.
we need to play lights out the rest of the year , or we will never get the benefit of a doubt , for some reason a lot people look at the loss to arky as bad or worse then just about anyone except for the way kansas loss. WE can afford anymore let downs from here on out plain n simple
gatormann
02-19-2013, 02:10 AM
Arkansas undressed Florida. It seems that what Katz appears to be arguing is that it was worse than any of Miami's losses. Florida got their arses whipped that day, so I have no problem with Katz's argument. Florida should have played better and we wouldn't have to suffer his talk. It doesn't really matter though.
Florida and Miami are having great seasons. A perfect conference record in the ACC speaks for itself whether the league is down or not. I watched Miami and liked what I saw. I liked what I saw out of Larkin. I can see why he might prefer him. I
d love to see the match up. He aint my guy but it isn't much of an insult to me either.
If Florida should meet Miami, it will be late in the tournament and anybody we play that late will be very good. Bring em on. We've been beating top ACC teams since Donovan got to Gainesville.
That's the beauty of NCAA basketball. It doesn't matter what's said on ESPN or on message boards. They settle it on the court and it will begin and end with whatever the scoreboard reads.
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