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ThePlayer
02-14-2013, 07:08 PM
Anyone else thinking about joining this little exodus out of the United States?
More people are moving to Florida just for the lower taxes.
But how about REALLY lowering your tax bill?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/should-you-renounce-your-citizenship-144048875.html
bluelang
02-14-2013, 07:45 PM
Well, let's see. The article mentions three places people are moving:
1) Austria: up to 50% income tax on income above $50k + 16% VAT. Enjoy that.
2) Russia: 13% flat income tax.. + 18% VAT. Enjoy that.
3) Singapore: 20% income tax + 7% VAT - and rising.
Three countries where you live in a foreign place and pay about as much (or significantly more) taxes than you do now. Article author is intentionally conflating cap gains with income to make his point look less stupid.
American taxes are low relative to rest of the world and absolutely rock-bottom when compared to services gained and quality of life.
dangolegators
02-14-2013, 07:52 PM
Anyone else thinking about joining this little exodus out of the United States?
I sure hope so.
Dreamliner
02-14-2013, 07:55 PM
Love it or leave it!
*cue Lee Greenwood*
dangolegators
02-14-2013, 08:06 PM
I hear Dubai is an awesome place to live!
Dreamliner
02-14-2013, 08:12 PM
You jeering magpies just take care that you don't drag those flags you've got wrapped around you. Hike them up a bit.
wargunfan
02-14-2013, 09:51 PM
In all my travels I have not found any place I would rather live than the US. They all have their negatives and the US is still the best place to live when all is considered. There are a few places I like to spend a few months every year but I would never give up my citizenship. In the meantime Florida will do just fine.
CalSFGator
02-14-2013, 10:19 PM
I would leave the U.S. for the draw of other places, but never flee it, especially not for something like taxes (which is factored into my pay). It is wonderful here, in spite of our weird, hardcore rightwing absurdity. The South is like the handsy drunk Uncle I want to apologize for sometimes, but would defend to the death (well, not the death....). Only, I can make fun of them.
And when a pseudo-intellectual Euro-douche goes all big-pants on me about GWB or some of our philistine caricatures of human beings on the right, it's all too easy to point to their wild swings and shameful recent history.
wargunfan
02-14-2013, 10:30 PM
I would leave the U.S. for the draw of other places, but never flee it, especially not for something like taxes (which is factored into my pay). It is wonderful here, in spite of our weird, hardcore rightwing absurdity. The South is like the handsy drunk Uncle I want to apologize for sometimes, but would defend to the death (well, not the death....). Only, I can make fun of them.
And when a pseudo-intellectual Euro-douche goes all big-pants on me about GWB or some of our philistine caricatures of human beings on the right, it's all too easy to point to their wild swings and shameful recent history.
Yes, San Francisco is picturesque until you meet the weirdo, effete, arrogant, self congratulatory, transgender, anal retentive, leftists who live there and are glad to leave and get back to normal people
CalSFGator
02-15-2013, 12:21 AM
Yes, San Francisco is picturesque until you meet the weirdo, effete, arrogant, self congratulatory, transgender, anal retentive, leftists who live there and are glad to leave and get back to normal people
A San Franciscan man doesn't need you around anyhow. But, you are always welcome.:joecool: We aren't nearly as big a fans of war guns here, but you might enjoy the Freudian similarities in phallophilia.
T3goalie
02-15-2013, 06:10 AM
:whistle: Its the American way to leave. That's how we all go here in the first place. Our ancestors left somewhere else.
GatorAbe7
02-15-2013, 09:25 AM
Yes, San Francisco is picturesque until you meet the weirdo, effete, arrogant, self congratulatory, transgender, anal retentive, leftists who live there and are glad to leave and get back to normal people
Was in Central San Francisco last month and all I remember is Asians.
GatorAvatar
02-15-2013, 09:37 AM
:whistle: Its the American way to leave. That's how we all go here in the first place. Our ancestors left somewhere else.
Lol. Am glad republicans want to leave. I hope they take their guns with them as well as Sarah Palin and all them racist Tea Party nutcases. Mexicans and other foreigners (Asians etc) are waiting in line to take your places.
orangeblueorangeblue
02-15-2013, 09:44 AM
Was in Central San Francisco last month and all I remember is Asians.
lol
this has basically been my experience in San Francisco. I certainly didn't encounter scores of gays dancing about, though that definitely makes for a funnier scene.
Tim85
02-15-2013, 10:04 AM
Lol. Am glad republicans want to leave. I hope they take their guns with them as well as Sarah Palin and all them racist Tea Party nutcases. Mexicans and other foreigners (Asians etc) are waiting in line to take your places.
Yes, hundreds of thousands of people you know nothing about outside of being affiliated with a political party - but they're all racist nutcase. Great stereotyping.
wgbgator
02-15-2013, 10:06 AM
lol
this has basically been my experience in San Francisco. I certainly didn't encounter scores of gays dancing about, though that definitely makes for a funnier scene.
Little did you know, those were Gaysians.
GuyWhiteyCorngood
02-15-2013, 12:47 PM
It's a small city and not a bad walk from the Sunset to the Castro...theoretically, you could see Asians and Gays in the same day!
Or maybe even Gaysians, like wgb said.
Back on point though...I could see myself retiring abroad someday. Ecuador is pretty trendy these days.
CalSFGator
02-15-2013, 01:51 PM
the average day in SF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siF0iQOm6wg
LeesGator
02-15-2013, 03:30 PM
I would leave the U.S. for the draw of other places, but never flee it, especially not for something like taxes (which is factored into my pay). It is wonderful here, in spite of our weird, hardcore rightwing absurdity. The South is like the handsy drunk Uncle I want to apologize for sometimes, but would defend to the death (well, not the death....). Only, I can make fun of them.
And when a pseudo-intellectual Euro-douche goes all big-pants on me about GWB or some of our philistine caricatures of human beings on the right, it's all too easy to point to their wild swings and shameful recent history.
San Fran is like that creepy uncle that dresses up in women's clothing and chases around young boys......you don't want to apologize for, but rather try and pretend you don't know......
ThePlayer
02-15-2013, 03:42 PM
A San Franciscan man doesn't need you around anyhow. But, you are always welcome.:joecool: We aren't nearly as big a fans of war guns here, but you might enjoy the Freudian similarities in phallophilia.
Reference from Crosby Stills Nash or Young? :yes:
dangolegators
02-15-2013, 03:52 PM
Just Young, as referred to in Sweet Home Alabama. Neil doesn't need Crosby, Stills and Nash around anyhow.
wgbgator
02-15-2013, 03:54 PM
CSNY looks/sounds better than CSN, though.
MastaG8r
02-15-2013, 03:55 PM
the average day in SF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siF0iQOm6wgBogus video. The first guy dancing isn't wearing any kind of helmet, hat or mask. :ghostface:
PSGator66
02-15-2013, 04:48 PM
How can somebody who is gainfully employed just up and leave and expect a better life simply because of the high tax code we are facing? I wouldn't move out and I believe that you can love your country without loving those who run it.
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