Noel injury update

[iam4uf]

USA Today sports writer said it was a hyperextended leg & Patrick Young said "...knee looked dislocated."

[jcp]

Hyper extension would probably be the 'best' scenario at this point considering how it looked right? (I know the best scenario would be no injury).

[brolowe]

Lordy! Hated to see him in such pain. Sure wish him the best, he's an excellent athlete and I understand he's a good guy generally. Lets hope for teh best for the young man and put him in prayers.

[iam4uf]

Isn't a hyperextension the injury Lattimore had?

[dailydoublecat]

I'm hearing from someone I trust a ruptured patella tendon!! My heart is in my throat. I hope I am wrong

[crapgame44]

Hyper extension usually translates into an ACL injury.....not good and usually a season ender. best of luck to him.

[jcp]

I'm hearing from someone I trust a ruptured patella tendon!! My heart is in my throat. I hope I am wrong

That would be pretty bad. Recovery time for those is usually pretty long, isn't it?

[exiledgator]

I'm hearing from someone I trust a ruptured patella tendon!! My heart is in my throat. I hope I am wrong

Went to do some reading on patella tendon rupture and found this:

Typically the injury involves an awkward landing from a jumping position where the quadriceps muscle is contracting, but the knee is being forcefully straightened

That pretty much sums up his landing. Bummer if true.

[themistocles]

This is really unfortunate.

I hope he heals up fully and quickly.

[dailydoublecat]

That would be pretty bad. Recovery time for those is usually pretty long, isn't it?

Yes he would be done for the year for sure

[exiledgator]

That would be pretty bad. Recovery time for those is usually pretty long, isn't it?

4-6 months if full tear.

[jcp]

Yes he would be done for the year for sure

Yeah, I was reading to find more about it and it would be a long road for him. Sucks.

[FLfan]

God bless. Hope the young man gets a good prognosis and heals completely.

[Gatorgal04]

I really like watching Noel. He's a dynamic shot blocker and has a real feel for court position. It would be a shame if he lost the rest of the season and I certainly wish him a full recovery.

[gatorfansrule]

Do guys usually scream that much and feel that much pain from a hyperextension? I would think something like a dislocation would be more likely, but I'm not a doctor and I've never had anything like that happen to me.

[akaGatorhoops]

I was told..mind you by someone with no medical knowledge... But near the scene after he was carried off court, that it looked like knee was dislocated.

[REM08]

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If anyone is bothered by the pic feel free to delete it and just leave the link. I know this can bother people sometimes.

It certainly looks painful to me. I'm no medical expert, but is it possible that a dislocation can happen and look this bad, yet there not be extensive injury after its popped back in? A "florida insider", according to some UK people, has mentioned hearing that its a torn patellar tendon - although other media are doubtful anyone could knwo this for sure yet. The school just put out a statement saying there will be no further news tonight.

[UFreak]

I was told..mind you by someone with no medical knowledge... But near the scene after he was carried off court, that it looked like knee was dislocated.

That would explain why he was screaming in pain for so long. It is my understanding that this is a VERY painful injury.

God's speed. Hope he returns soon at 100 percent.

[jcp]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BC9F8NjCcAIxrH9.jpg:large

Oh my... :no:

[ufgator4ever]

So question: before injury he's the #1 in draft probably. With injury, does he still go with an nba team taking chance, or does he stay?

[akaGatorhoops]

So question: before injury he's the #1 in draft probably. With injury, does he still go with an nba team taking chance, or does he stay?

Nah..... Unless it is a guy with chronic problems like oden.... Our medical advances really minimize the risk. He will go and will be the top pick.

[demosthenes]

4-6 months if full tear.

Funny. I tore my patellar tendon a year ago October and I'm still recovering. Doctor said 6 months to a year. Now granted I have slacked on PT but that surgery and recuperation took every bit of my inner quad muscle and it isn't something that grows back easily.

[GothamGator]

Let's hope it's something that he can heal from quickly. Dislocations look terrible and can be painful, but unless something else is injured at the same time, there can be a quick recovery.

He seems like a good kid, and he's certainly a terrific player. Let's hope he's back to his usual springy self soon.

[demosthenes]

So question: before injury he's the #1 in draft probably. With injury, does he still go with an nba team taking chance, or does he stay?

Generally, if it is a patellar injury it's better than an ACL tear for his career long term. Patellar is a more severe injury and surgery but unlike an ACL tear you don't have the near 100% certainty of developing arthritis.

My surgery involved drilling three holes through the length of my knee cap and threading sutures through the knee cap and tying it off on the top of the knee. Came out of that with a nice 6" scar...

[REM08]

Interesting info some of you have posted about patellar tendon injuries. Hopefully that's just a rumor, but we'll see.

Here's the last image I'll post. Its probably the best angle we'll get of this.

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[GatorBen]

Interesting info some of you have posted about patellar tendon injuries. Hopefully that's just a rumor, but we'll see.

Here's the last image I'll post. Its probably the best angle we'll get of this.

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Ouch that's a painful looking picture. Not quite as gruesome as Prothro's ankle was, but definitely not something you like to see for a good kid with the kind of outstanding talent Noel has.

Here's hoping it's better than it looks and prayers his way for a full and speedy recovery no matter the diagnosis.

[demosthenes]

Interesting info some of you have posted about patellar tendon injuries. Hopefully that's just a rumor, but we'll see.

Here's the last image I'll post. Its probably the best angle we'll get of this.



These photos don't strike me as a patellar tear. Not saying it isn't but the lateral movement looks scary.

[iam4uf]

Interesting info some of you have posted about patellar tendon injuries. Hopefully that's just a rumor, but we'll see.

Here's the last image I'll post. Its probably the best angle we'll get of this.

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Best angle I've seen. That does not look good, but as Gotham said a dislocation can look terrible & not be as bad as some other injuries. Hope he recovers quickly.

[GunGator]

Whatever the injury, I hope he can make a quick and complete recovery. I hate to see something like this.

[LoyalGatorFan]

Not to be a debbie downer but I would be pretty shocked if he came back at all this year...between the visible amount of pain he was in and the fact he couldn't even put weight on it, it is more than likely a tear, fracture, or dislocation....this is not just a simple bone bruise or hyperextended knee...and i cant think of any tear, fracture, or dislocation that would only keep him out for a month....i mean Yeguete is out for a month or so with a much less serious injury....

[rserina]

It is so hard to tell. Corey Brewer had several of those nasty looking injuries where he would writhe on the floor screaming in agony, get helped over to the bench, then be back on the floor in two minutes. Obviously Noel's looked far more serious than that, but some guys just have oddly flexible ligaments/tendons/whatever and are more malleable. I am that is the case for him. Regardless, let's also hope that Kentucky still loses and Calipari can tell us yet again after SEC league play or the SEC tourney how little all of this means to him because, in the end, he will have on nothing.

[gatorr4life]

Well that sucks. All the best to him and his future. Hope for a speedy recovery.

[TampaGatorFan]

I'm thinking ACL tear...season ending...I sure hope I'm wrong. He's a good kid...he doesn't deserve this.

[tilly]

I mentioned in another thrwad that I think the injury happened on the landing just prior to ho, hitting the padding. I think that photo may imply that as well.

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[madgator]

Nah..... Unless it is a guy with chronic problems like oden.... Our medical advances really minimize the risk. He will go and will be the top pick.

not 100% sure if top pick....definitely top 5 though.


regardless of injury. I still wouldn't be sure he would be #1. certainly top 3. Regardless, no way he slips out of top 5

unless of course its a multiple ligament/tendon injury. after the oden situation, teams might be a little more cautious.

[tilly]

Seeing a couple reports that cite a "UF source" stating torn patella.

But at this point its probably just web chatter.

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[madgator]

Funny. I tore my patellar tendon a year ago October and I'm still recovering. Doctor said 6 months to a year. Now granted I have slacked on PT but that surgery and recuperation took every bit of my inner quad muscle and it isn't something that grows back easily.

is that something that they did a cadaver on or did they take a muscle strand?


I've had some friends that were pretty decent athletes that were really taken down a notch or two after reconstructive knee surgery.


personally, I blew detached a ligament off of my ankle bone about 4 years ago.....didn't get the recommended surgery and have never been the same since. even on an every day basis

[bullish]

I hate this for any athlete, good or bad. Knees and ankles are fragile. Basketball puts so much stress on them. How any person could play basketball till they are 37-40 yrs old, and not have problems before or after, would be a freak. I played organized ball from the time I could dribble to HS, then on playing on concrete wherever I could get in games. At nearly retirement age, I know I am facing replacement of both knees and they hurt when I get up everyday. Luckily, I never had a ACL injury to my knee but scopes of both knees have been done. I guess like a lot of other people that have played organized sports, I have a lot of compassion for the guys that play and when anyone, Noel or one of our guys gets hurt, I know it only takes one second to change your life of a springy, fast athlete. To Noel, I hope for the best, as he seemed to be a human eraser to use the term the media has been using. Also, a good recovery to where he can play at a high level. I know he was the heart and soul of this Kentucky team and they are devastated.

I am also sorry we didn't get a stretcher, wheelchair courtside to help him off the court. Good Luck Nerlen, as a college basketball fan you were fun to watch.

[demosthenes]

is that something that they did a cadaver on or did they take a muscle strand?


Nope. Since I had a clean tear the doctor just pulled it back up to the knee cap. Not sure what they would have done if the tendon tore in the middle. I don't think that is very common.

[gatordee]

Here is to a speedy recovery

[Mr_Littlejeans]

wow, that picture makes it looks worse than when I saw it live on TV. I hope he gets better, he is a great kid with serious potential.

Begs the question..should athletes be able to go pro once they hit 18...?

[phideltdj]

He is a top 5 pick on potential alone so why would he come back and risk having another injury like this in college. If there is a long term problem he needs to enter the next draft and get paid while he can then risk another year in college and something else happening.

[gatordd]

yeah, I really hated seeing this happen to the kid. UK is in a lot of trouble if he is indeed out for the remainder of the season. Poythress is going to need to step up in a big way...

[ETGator1]

Poythress is a year away from being a Michael Kidd Gilchrist. He needs a 2nd season to get there, but the NBA will take him on potential.

[socraticsilence]

wow, that picture makes it looks worse than when I saw it live on TV. I hope he gets better, he is a great kid with serious potential.

Begs the question..should athletes be able to go pro once they hit 18...?

Yes, the NBA loves the one year rule- it makes colleges a free farm team, to be honest football players should be eligible as well- it'd be much, much rarer for someone to get taken out of high school but it should be like Baseball where you can enter the draft and still go to college (my opinion on this changed dramatically after Lattimore).

[ETGator1]

ESPN reported that the x-rays are negative, no breaks.

I suspect an MRI will show damage. If not, Noel is the bionic man.

[jareduf]

Poythress is a year away from being a Michael Kidd Gilchrist. He needs a 2nd season to get there, but the NBA will take him on potential.

I personally don't think he's as good but I guess we shall see. With UK's incoming class, he may bolt thinking this is his chance to cash out. From a basketball POV, it will severely hurt his game long-term.

[wci347]

He will leave and will not be drafted in the first 5 picks. His stock unless he can somehow come back this year has dropped to second tier lottery pick. NBA franchises are not going to take that kind of a risk on a lottery pick. Look at Odom.

Even if he is completely healthy, he would not have started in his rookie season in the NBA IMO.

[bakaduin]

He will leave and will not be drafted in the first 5 picks. His stock unless he can somehow come back this year has dropped to second tier lottery pick. NBA franchises are not going to take that kind of a risk on a lottery pick. Look at Odom.

Even if he is completely healthy, he would not have started in his rookie season in the NBA IMO.

I disagree with just about everything you said. NBA drafts are all based on potential. Missing a pick here and there isn't critical like in the NFL. He will still be a lottery pick and probably top 5.

[jd]

The most depressing part of it all to me was to see the young guy going all out trying to match the effort that Pat was playing with. Bust his ass to get back down court, make an absolutely amazing play and this is how he was rewarded.

[dadx4]

Great player, stinks he got hurt. I hope he can have a full recovery and go on to the NBA with no problems.

[gogators73]

ACL tear is a tough break.

Hopefully he can recover.

[ETGator1]

ESPN is reporting Nerlens Noel tore his ACL and is out for the season.

[don23lucia]

Sucks he tore his acl looked way worse. People who think he should come back are really stupid. He will be a 1st round lottery pick regardless of this. Good luck to him, hope he recovers quickly.

I hope UK staff have a come to Jesus meeting with Stein or the season could be toilet bowl for real and Goodwin for that matter, and Jeff I don't think Harrow will be around next year his confidence and game is already in the toilet bowl.

UK needs to regroup real quick.

[flwgator2]

Wow that sucks :(

[irish2u2]

I hate Kentucky. They are arrogant so and so's and I just hate this one and done system of Calipari's but I also hate seeing any athlete hurt. I like Noel. He is a little free with his elbows but he is also a non-stop hustler who never quits on a play which is how he got hurt. He would not concede the easy basket to Rosario. He's a winner and I hope he is able to come back 100% from this terrible injury.

BTW, I think we all knew he was hurt bad. I think anybody who was there or heard on TV knew the kid was hurt bad. This absolutely sucks....

[TampaGatorFan]

I'm thinking ACL tear...season ending...I sure hope I'm wrong. He's a good kid...he doesn't deserve this.

Dammit...sometimes I hate being right. :sad:

[tilly]

Good new is, in Kentucky there is Dear Antler Spray in every gun cabinet. That's one reason Cal took the job.

True story.

Seriously...I think as I said before, he blew it out on the landing, more than by hitting the padding. This news may verify that.

His landing looked to jam the knee up and to the side just before hitting the padding.

I pray he recovers. By all accounts he is a great kid.

[orlandogator]

Official. torn ACL. out 6-8 months

[GatrHeel]

Official. torn ACL. out 6-8 months

Dang. Hate it for the kid.

[dadx4]

Yep just heard. Torn ACL.

[UFG8rGuy3283]

I feel bad for the guy that he tore his ACL, but, on the bright side, ACL's are very common nowadays. This shouldn't effect his draft stock too terribly much.

In many ways, a patella rupture or some of the other things that were speculated could have been much, much worse.

Best of luck to him. It's a shame.

[GatorLurker]

Best of luck to him and sending him best wishes for an excellent recovery.

I wonder if he'll end up with Dr. Pete? That is where I would go if I needed this surgery.

[swampbabe]

Best of luck to him and sending him best wishes for an excellent recovery.

I wonder if he'll end up with Dr. Pete? That is where I would go if I needed this surgery.

Uh, no. I would go to Dr. James Andrews in B'ham. Just did RGIII's knee.

[UFG8rGuy3283]

Uh, no. I would go to Dr. James Andrews in B'ham. Just did RGIII's knee.

Agreed. He's the guy nowadays. Did he do Peterson's too?

[swampbabe]

He did Peterson's knee, Jack Nicklaus's, Emmitt Smith's, Troy Aikman's and Marcus Lattimore's among others. Was an SEC championship pole vaulter at LSU also.

[Lawdog88]

Uh, no. I would go to Dr. James Andrews in B'ham. Just did RGIII's knee.


Nowadays, he often works out of Gulf Breeze, south of Pensacola. That is where he rebuilt RGIII's knee.

[REM08]

According to a couple different draft "experts", this won't radically alter his draft position. One still has him as first overall, the other says top 3 and another says top 5.

[keefer]

Best of luck to him and sending him best wishes for an excellent recovery.

I wonder if he'll end up with Dr. Pete? That is where I would go if I needed this surgery.

Dr. Pete? :laugh: :no: