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gator7_5
02-11-2013, 01:06 PM
Grier at #18
Valentine at #46
As expected, lots of kids on our radar on this list.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3235
Nicho
02-11-2013, 01:20 PM
Jamal Adams at #33
gatorboy08
02-11-2013, 01:24 PM
Is Jamal seriously considering UF?
Nicho
02-11-2013, 01:26 PM
Is Jamal seriously considering UF?
Apparently. Look on the thread for him. Somebody mentioned that he is Joker Philips' godson.
gatorboy08
02-11-2013, 01:29 PM
Okay good lol. Thanks man
PSGator66
02-11-2013, 02:00 PM
The number 1 player has Florida listed as high interest so does anyone have any further information?
LimeyGator
02-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Grier at 18. Niiiice!
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 02:31 PM
Here is a way way to early mock class that will end up being totally wrong so take it with a grain of salt. We wont even be able to take this many kids next cycle. Will have the top 40 Gator targets in the next few days
QB Will Grier
RB Adam Choice
RB Jalen Hurd
WR Ryeshene Bronson
WR Josh Malone
TE Kevin Crosby
OL Reilly Gibbons
OL Denzel Ward
OL Garrett Brumfield
OL Travaris Dorsey
SDE Gerald Willis
BUCK Denzel Ware
BUCK/DE John Thornton
DT Travonte Valentine
DT insert random top 15 DT
OLB Christian Miller
OLB Chris Register or Juwon Young
ILB Shaun Hamilton or Korey Rodgers
DB Duke Dawson
S Kendal Grant
CB Jalen Tabor
CB DJ Smith OR Grant Haley OR Wesley Green
S Jamal Adams
Zanso
02-11-2013, 02:37 PM
Here is a way way to early mock class that will end up being totally wrong so take it with a grain of salt will have the top 40 Gator targets in the next few days
QB Will Grier
RB Adam Choice
RB Jalen Hurd
WR Ryeshene Bronson
WR Josh Malone
OL Reilly Gibbons
OL Denzel Ward
OL Garrett Brumfield
OL Travaris Dorsey
SDE Gerald Willis
BUCK Denzel Ware
BUCK/DE John Thornton
DT Travonte Valentine
DT insert random top 15 DT
OLB Christian Miller
OLB Chris Register or Juwon Young
ILB Shaun Hamilton or Korey Rodgers
DB Duke Dawson
S Kendal Grant
CB Jalen Tabor
CB DJ Smith OR Grant Haley OR Wesley Green
S Jamal Adams
As of now makes sense. I'm hoping Valentine sticks, he's been wavering for months lol.
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 02:41 PM
As of now makes sense. I'm hoping Valentine sticks, he's been wavering for months lol.
He will continue to waver but CWM didnt lose a player he really wanted last year so I believe he can hold onto him. Bronson continues to visit other schools as well he was at Miami's jr day this weekend.
Nicho
02-11-2013, 02:45 PM
Thanks, AZ.
Quick question: NC has really been good to UF in recent times. Do you think we can snag one or more of Hood, Street and Spain, especially with a high profile kid from their state already on board?
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 02:51 PM
Thanks, AZ.
Quick question: NC has really been good to UF in recent times. Do you think we can snag one or more of Hood, Street and Spain, especially with a high profile kid from their state already on board?
Hood has no FLorida offer that I know of. I dont know who Street is. I think Florida has Pease recruiting Spain and I have no faith in him pulling in an OL that seems to want to stay close to home or go to Stanford.
StrangeGator
02-11-2013, 03:09 PM
As usual, we're in on almost half the kids on the list. Better than half of the top 30 or so. Nice geographic spread, with kids from California, Texas, Washington, Missouri, Illinois plus our Georgia to Jersey corridor up the east coast. That indicates to me that the Gator "brand" is back. Also indicates that our coaches are burning up the phones and emails. Out of the 45 or so kids listing UF, there don't seem to be many OL. Not a concern at this point. Lots of talent yet to be identified.
Nice to see Grier listed as the #1 QB. I think Rivals is the only service that has him that high. So much for the f$u bias. Once again, we will do very well on signing day with the group that's listed now. My hunch is that we'll have a great class, slightly smaller and more top heavy. I can see us getting as many as four 5 star types. Only problem there is that Bama is listed by even more of the top players than UF. Our edge on Bama is that we have more talent in state.
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 03:15 PM
Rivals has Watson as the #1QB strange
StrangeGator
02-11-2013, 03:24 PM
The number 1 player has Florida listed as high interest so does anyone have any further information?
He likes our new DL coach who had been recruiting him for South Carolina. There's an entire thread about him. Some speculation that he might be a lean to VT.
Nicho
02-11-2013, 03:46 PM
Hood has no FLorida offer that I know of. I dont know who Street is. I think Florida has Pease recruiting Spain and I have no faith in him pulling in an OL that seems to want to stay close to home or go to Stanford.
Thanks for the reply. Kentavious Street is a 5 star DE on Rivals' new list linked in the OP.
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the reply. Kentavious Street is a 5 star DE on Rivals' new list linked in the OP.
I think I have seen his name maybe once before I know nothing about him
Nicho
02-11-2013, 03:58 PM
I think I have seen his name maybe once before I know nothing about him
I hadn't heard of him until this Rivals list came out. I was just taking a look at the NC prospects on the list because we tend to do unusually well in the Tarheel state.
elrongator
02-11-2013, 04:31 PM
I don't know much about next years crop of recruits yet, but the top 100 seems extremly light on Florida recruits.
I doubt that stays the same through NSD 2014.
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 04:42 PM
I don't know much about next years crop of recruits yet, but the top 100 seems extremly light on Florida recruits.
I doubt that stays the same through NSD 2014.
Doesn't look like Tampa or Jacksonville are as strong as last year CWM is going to have to go out of state or to South Florida. Not sure CWM wants to deal with the BS in south Florida.
Another problem for Florida is with the coaching change at FSU Florida and FSU are looking at a lot of the same DL and LB prospects.
austingator
02-11-2013, 04:47 PM
Was taking Young a better choice then saving the ship for next year when we will not have many to give?
qwghlmgator
02-11-2013, 05:08 PM
I think Florida has Pease recruiting Spain.
CWM is recruiting Europe now? Damn... :laugh:
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 05:10 PM
Was taking Young a better choice then saving the ship for next year when we will not have many to give?
I do not believe in saving scholarships and I dont think the staff does either. If a few things bounce our way on signing day we would have been at 85. I would rather have him on campus learning from college coaches and in a great S & C program then hoping we find a kid better the next year in high school.
DieAGator
02-11-2013, 08:11 PM
I'd bet we have room for 25 when all is said and done.
stomp_and_chomp
02-11-2013, 10:48 PM
I'd bet we have room for 25 when all is said and done.
Somewhere close to that number. With a few EE's dashed in.
With how many DLinemen this staff has taken thus far, I am curious to see if they will ever bring in a class with 5 or fewer. I am betting not for awhile.
Ideally, what we need for the DL is 2 DT's, 2 SSDE's, 1 Buck and 1 DL (Could go anywhere, but I would bet another DE).
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 11:01 PM
It will not be a good thing if we are able to take 25 kids next year right now we have 12 or 13 spots available
stomp_and_chomp
02-11-2013, 11:21 PM
It will not be a good thing if we are able to take 25 kids next year right now we have 12 or 13 spots available
I was thinking somewhere around 20-22 spots next year.
4 OL, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR
5 DL, 2 LB, 3 DB
= 20 Spots
GATORAZ
02-11-2013, 11:38 PM
I was thinking somewhere around 20-22 spots next year.
4 OL, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR
5 DL, 2 LB, 3 DB
= 20 Spots
I had 22 in my mock but that is probably still too much. It would be nice if we can have a class of 20 or fewer and still hit the 85 limit
stomp_and_chomp
02-12-2013, 12:50 AM
Only taking 1 RB in this class will work in our favor with guys like Sony Michel and Jalen Hurd. There's no real need for us to want more than that, imho. Our stable is looking pretty good at this point.
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 09:13 AM
Only taking 1 RB in this class will work in our favor with guys like Sony Michel and Jalen Hurd. There's no real need for us to want more than that, imho. Our stable is looking pretty good at this point.
I would try and take 2. While UGA is chasing Sony hopefully we can get Adam Choice then fight for Hurd until he decides.
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 12:10 PM
the rivals 250 lisit is out a lot of Gator targets are on it I should be done with my top 40 targets list tonight
DieAGator
02-12-2013, 01:12 PM
It will not be a good thing if we are able to take 25 kids next year right now we have 12 or 13 spots available
You don't believe there are quite a few players that could want to transfer to find PT?
Only taking 1 RB in this class will work in our favor with guys like Sony Michel and Jalen Hurd. There's no real need for us to want more than that, imho. Our stable is looking pretty good at this point.
Feel we still need two. Right now we really don't have a stable. Three RB(two true FR) is thin imo.
elrongator
02-12-2013, 01:23 PM
I say bring on the direct conflict in recruiting with REFsu. It's the only way we can completely crush them when NSD is done and the ink is drying.
Crush them into irrelevance and get 100% dominance secured.
Their only selling point will be the illusion of playing time after their squad proves it can't play with even ACC opponents. I am not convinced their new D coordinator can do anything for them, they start a new QB, and their is simply no way their schedule can be as easy as it was last year.
gator7_5
02-12-2013, 01:51 PM
Ex fsu commit, Denzel Ware comitted to UK today. Stoops sticking it to fsu. I like it.
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 02:09 PM
Ex fsu commit, Denzel Ware comitted to UK today. Stoops sticking it to fsu. I like it.
Florida wants Ware
gator7_5
02-12-2013, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I know. How high is he on the board? Probably not over by a long shot anyway. Still good to see the noles get pissed.
You upset because your mock class is already falling apart? :joecool:
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 02:21 PM
Yeah, I know. How high is he on the board? Probbaly not over by a long shot. Still good to see the noles get pissed.
You upset because your mock class is already falling apart? :joecool:
could careless about the Mock he is really high on Florida's board he was supposed to visit a few weeks back. Kentucky might be taking his brother who is supposedly not very good. Ware's recruitment is far from over.
gator7_5
02-12-2013, 02:23 PM
He seems pretty small for a buck, but I suppose has a yr to grow...
stomp_and_chomp
02-12-2013, 02:26 PM
Ware's recruitment just started. From the looks of things, we know he likes to commit to more than 1 school. His recruitment is nowhere close to done.
I still think UF lands him in the end... unless hhis brother is the issue, in which case, we just don't have the room. But this is the type of commit that see his recruitment heat up over the summer and ultimately next winter...
LimeyGator
02-12-2013, 02:36 PM
I'm not buying it. What evidence is there that a guy called 'D.Ware' could make it on a football team anyway...
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 04:04 PM
edit
stomp_and_chomp
02-12-2013, 11:11 PM
He seems pretty small for a buck, but I suppose has a yr to grow...
I don't think he'll play Buck. He doesn't really have the overall size for the position. But he would make a pretty stellar OLB. That said, if we were counting him as an OLB, he would probably be at the very top of the list. Actually, no probably, he would for sure be in the top 2 OLB's that we could land this year.
Kid has speed. He plays WDE at his HS. If he stay's around 6'2"/6'3" and gets to about 230-40ish, while still keeping the speed and instincts that he has, he'll make a great Defense look better.
He de-committed from FSU because we (and apparently UK) were recruiting him pretty hard. It seems like there are a few kids already committed to FSU who have a lot of interest in Florida.
GATORAZ
02-12-2013, 11:18 PM
Florida offered Kentavius Street offers are coming so fast it is hard to finish this top 40 targets
LAGatorDoc
02-13-2013, 12:34 AM
I don't think he'll play Buck. He doesn't really have the overall size for the position. But he would make a pretty stellar OLB. That said, if we were counting him as an OLB, he would probably be at the very top of the list. Actually, no probably, he would for sure be in the top 2 OLB's that we could land this year.
Kid has speed. He plays WDE at his HS. If he stay's around 6'2"/6'3" and gets to about 230-40ish, while still keeping the speed and instincts that he has, he'll make a great Defense look better.
He de-committed from FSU because we (and apparently UK) were recruiting him pretty hard. It seems like there are a few kids already committed to FSU who have a lot of interest in Florida.
Thornton, L. Carter, and some WSDE from SC that Lawing has been personally recruiting (I don't know the exact order) are higher on the board than Ware. The position is so important that we would probably take more than one if we could and we miss on the number one target.
stomp_and_chomp
02-13-2013, 02:09 AM
Thornton, L. Carter, and some WSDE from SC that Lawing has been personally recruiting (I don't know the exact order) are higher on the board than Ware. The position is so important that we would probably take more than one if we could and we miss on the number one target.
Again, I think we'll recruit Ware as a OLB. And he would be among the highest on the board.
Justin Thornton and Kentavious Street are WDE's that will more than likely turn into SSDE's for college.
Lorenzo Carter is WDE that can either play Buck or SSDE, depends on how he goes with his training.
We are also recruiting Da'Shawn Hand and he is absolute tops for SSDE.
I could have sworn we were recruiting Lorenzo Featherston out of NC for Buck, but Rivals doesn't have us with an offer. I thought I recently heard chatter about him though.
stomp_and_chomp
02-13-2013, 02:14 AM
Andrew Brown is the best DT that we are recruiting at the moment, he is #6 overall on the rivals 250. We'll hopefully pull him or someone extremely close to his skill.
If Travonte Valentine de-commits we'll go after one of the other Florida DT's... but I doubt we'll ever stop recruiting Valentine, he's the best in the state. We need to hold on to him.
StrangeGator
02-13-2013, 06:47 AM
Andrew Brown is the best DT that we are recruiting at the moment, he is #6 overall on the rivals 250. We'll hopefully pull him or someone extremely close to his skill.
If Travonte Valentine de-commits we'll go after one of the other Florida DT's... but I doubt we'll ever stop recruiting Valentine, he's the best in the state. We need to hold on to him.
Brown and Valentine are the #1 and #2 DTs in the country on 247. I know it's asking a lot, but I'd like to see both of them at UF. We look very good with D linemen across the board. The top SSDE and WSDE show interest in UF.
stomp_and_chomp
02-13-2013, 04:48 PM
Brown and Valentine are the #1 and #2 DTs in the country on 247. I know it's asking a lot, but I'd like to see both of them at UF. We look very good with D linemen across the board. The top SSDE and WSDE show interest in UF.
I don't think getting the top 2 DT's in the nation is out of the question. But if we were to pull in Brown, it would be very interesting to see how Valentine feels.
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 03:43 PM
Here is a way way to early mock class that will end up being totally wrong so take it with a grain of salt. We wont even be able to take this many kids next cycle. Will have the top 40 Gator targets in the next few days
QB Will Grier
RB Adam Choice
RB Jalen Hurd
WR Ryeshene Bronson
WR Josh Malone
TE Kevin Crosby
OL Reilly Gibbons
OL Denzel Ward
OL Garrett Brumfield (nope)
OL Travaris Dorsey
SDE Gerald Willis (nope)
BUCK Denzel Ware
BUCK/DE John Thornton
DT Travonte Valentine
DT insert random top 15 DT
OLB Christian Miller
OLB Chris Register or Juwon Young
ILB Shaun Hamilton or Korey Rodgers
DB Duke Dawson
S Kendal Grant
CB Jalen Tabor
CB DJ Smith OR Grant Haley OR Wesley Green
S Jamal Adams
Nice list, but I made two corrections, UF isn't getting either Brumfield or Willis, as both will end up at LSU.
gator7_5
02-14-2013, 03:50 PM
Nice list, but I made two corrections, UF isn't getting either Brumfield or Willis, as both will end up at LSU.
I read this same stuff before....who was it about? Oh yeah, Kain Daub. Thanks for the worthless input.
Nicho
02-14-2013, 03:51 PM
Nice list, but I made two corrections, UF isn't getting either Brumfield or Willis, as both will end up at LSU.
LOL
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 04:03 PM
I read this same stuff before....who was it about? Oh yeah, Kain Daub. Thanks for the worthless input.
Daub is from Florida, I never expected him to commit so early in the first place, and I would never say he was anything other than a possibility to end up a Tiger when all is said and done.
Now, if you would like to compare apples to apples, look at Lorenzo Phillips, a Louisiana kid who actually "committed" to UF before ultimately flipping to LSU once the full court press was put on by Les.
Who is the last player to sign with UF from Louisiana that LSU wanted...Ernie Badeaux?
The point is, it has been a long, long time and UF is going to actually have to demonstrate the ability to do it before one can assume it is going to happen.
gator7_5
02-14-2013, 04:19 PM
The fact is, we never actively recruit many kids out of La.
What's Muschamp supposed to do now that kids all over the country are getting Boom fever and are asking to come work out for him?
gatorchamp27
02-14-2013, 04:24 PM
There are some kids on this list that have absolutely no business being on it. Dont take this list very serious it is an utter shame. These updates are based only on camp circuits and not on actual game evaluation or tape evaluation.
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 04:34 PM
The fact is, we never actively recruit many kids out of La.
What's Muschamp supposed to do now that kids all over the country are getting Boom fever and are asking to come work out for him?
Yes, you are correct, UF doesn't actively recruit Louisiana because it is generally a waste of time and resources, which is exactly my point.
"Boom fever?"
That's very good, I like that.
Nicho
02-14-2013, 04:40 PM
Yes, you are correct, UF doesn't actively recruit Louisiana because it is generally a waste of time and resources, which is exactly my point.
"Boom fever?"
That's very good, I like that.
14-6
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 04:45 PM
14-6
A very thoughtful retort...
GATORAZ
02-14-2013, 07:26 PM
Nice list, but I made two corrections, UF isn't getting either Brumfield or Willis, as both will end up at LSU.
You said the same thing last time. You also were celebrating Daub and we see what happen with that. This is the first time in a long time LSU has to defend their state from anybody but Bama, Florida & A & M are lurking.
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 07:51 PM
You said the same thing last time. You also were celebrating Daub and we see what happen with that. This is the first time in a long time LSU has to defend their state from anybody but Bama, Florida & A & M are lurking.
I think you must have missed my post above, so for your convenience I have posted it again:
Daub is from Florida, I never expected him to commit so early in the first place, and I would never say he was anything other than a possibility to end up a Tiger when all is said and done.
Now, if you would like to compare apples to apples, look at Lorenzo Phillips, a Louisiana kid who actually "committed" to UF before ultimately flipping to LSU once the full court press was put on by Les.
Who is the last player to sign with UF from Louisiana that LSU wanted...Ernie Badeaux?
The point is, it has been a long, long time and UF is going to actually have to demonstrate the ability to do it before one can assume it is going to happen.
GATORAZ
02-14-2013, 07:56 PM
I think you must have missed my post above, so for your convenience I have posted it again:
Did you celebrate when Kain committed to LSU? Florida hasn't actively recruited your state now Florida and A & M are :laugh: We know Bama likes taking players from you.
Nicho
02-14-2013, 08:31 PM
I agree, AZ. The Ags are going to be a fly in the corndoggies' gumbo.
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 09:02 PM
Did you celebrate when Kain committed to LSU? Florida hasn't actively recruited your state now Florida and A & M are :laugh: We know Bama likes taking players from you.
I guess you are still are having trouble reading my posts, so I will say it again:
I read this same stuff before....who was it about? Oh yeah, Kain Daub. Thanks for the worthless input.
Daub is from Florida, I never expected him to commit so early in the first place, and I would never say he was anything other than a possibility to end up a Tiger when all is said and done.
Now, if you would like to compare apples to apples, look at Lorenzo Phillips, a Louisiana kid who actually "committed" to UF before ultimately flipping to LSU once the full court press was put on by Les.
Who is the last player to sign with UF from Louisiana that LSU wanted...Ernie Badeaux?
The point is, it has been a long, long time and UF is going to actually have to demonstrate the ability to do it before one can assume it is going to happen.
UberTiger
02-14-2013, 09:05 PM
I agree, AZ. The Ags are going to be a fly in the corndoggies' gumbo.
We do more damage in Texas than A&M has ever done Louisiana.
gator7_5
02-14-2013, 09:33 PM
Dp
gator7_5
02-14-2013, 09:33 PM
Yes, you are correct, UF doesn't actively recruit Louisiana because it is generally a waste of time and resources, which is exactly my point.
"Boom fever?"
That's very good, I like that.
It is often a waste of resources, but because there's better talent in Florida and Georgia, even comperable talent in Bama, NC, etc lately. If a player is worth WM's time, he'll go after him.
I mean look at the guy you're hanging your hat on, Lorenzo Phillips. He wasn't even in the Rivals 250 and would have been one of the lower rated LB's we've taken in awhile. He was a reach who wanted a gator offer.
You sound like a cane fan with their "fence around S Fl" garbage. Don't get cocky corndog.
GATORAZ
02-14-2013, 09:55 PM
I guess you are still are having trouble reading my posts, so I will say it again:
I am having no trouble Florida did not care about Philips. They weren't even giving him attention. You were real excited when you got Daub and your staff was all over him
GATORAZ
02-14-2013, 11:38 PM
still working on this top targets list but the more film I watch the less likely I think Florida waits on CB's like Jalen Tabor & Adoree' Jackson. There are so many good corners in Georgia and Florida this year I would rather lock them up the wait on these national recruits.
UberTiger
02-15-2013, 11:37 AM
Lot to respond to here.
First, Louisiana produces more NFL talent than any other state on a per capita basis, so to say there is "better" talent in another state is patently false.
Regarding Phillips here are the facts, he was a 4 star linebacker (consensus), a member of the ESPNU 150 and Top 247 by 247Sports.com, UF recruited Phillips, it offered him a scholarship which he accepted when he committed, and he ultimately signed with LSU when Miles turned up the heat. Anything else is simple sour grapes on your part.
Here's another fact, neither UF nor A&M has beaten LSU for any Louisiana player this century. Until that actually happens, predictions to the contrary are nothing more than hope on your part and hope doesn't concern us.
As I mentioned several times already, Daub is irrelevant, he's a Florida kid, my point was about Louisiana HS players. I don't know how to put that in any simpler terms.
GATORAZ
02-15-2013, 12:38 PM
Did you get excited when Duab committed? Nobody cared about Phillips even the coaches. Why would anybody have sour grapes about Phillips most here dont even know who he is?
gator7_5
02-15-2013, 01:09 PM
Lot to respond to here.
First, Louisiana produces more NFL talent than any other state on a per capita basis, so to say there is "better" talent in another state is patently false.
Regarding Phillips here are the facts, he was a 4 star linebacker (consensus), a member of the ESPNU 150 and Top 247 by 247Sports.com, UF recruited Phillips, it offered him a scholarship which he accepted when he committed, and he ultimately signed with LSU when Miles turned up the heat. Anything else is simple sour grapes on your part.
Here's another fact, neither UF nor A&M has beaten LSU for any Louisiana player this century. Until that actually happens, predictions to the contrary are nothing more than hope on your part and hope doesn't concern us.
As I mentioned several times already, Daub is irrelevant, he's a Florida kid, my point was about Louisiana HS players. I don't know how to put that in any simpler terms.
I see, you like ESPN's rankings since they prop up your corner sized LB. Lets analyze that Top 150 2012 class.
FLorida - 28 players
Texas - 24 players
Louisiana - 4 players
I won't list Alabama and Ga., but it's way more than 4.
Then you have:
Louisiana players who went to LSU (#125, and Phillips #135)
Louisiana players who didn't (#6 Colllins to Alabama, #77 Davis to Texas)
So.
A. You'e not keeping your top talent in state
B. Now we know why you're a fan of a 195# LB. He's the second best player ya'll convinced to stay in state.
B. Louisiana isn't the most talent rich state even in your wildest wetdreams. Regardless of what per capita NFL stat you find.
You are correct though, Florida hasn't pulled kids out of La. lately. Now we know why. Not many Brock Berlins and Ike Hilliards around these days.
UberTiger
02-15-2013, 01:15 PM
Did you get excited when Duab committed? Nobody cared about Phillips even the coaches. Why would anybody have sour grapes about Phillips most here dont even know who he is?
I see revisionist history is alive and well.
Let's stick with the facts, shall we. Here we go:
Phillips was a 4 star linebacker (consensus), a member of the ESPNU 150 and Top 247 by 247Sports.com, UF recruited Phillips, it offered him a scholarship which he accepted when he committed, and he ultimately signed with LSU when Miles turned up the heat. Anything else is simple sour grapes on your part.
The suggestion that UF's coaches wouldn't care about a player they recruited, offered a scholarship to, and took a commitment from, is simply moronic.
One more time, and as I mentioned several times already, Daub is irrelevant to this discussion, he's a Florida kid, my point was about Louisiana HS players. I don't know how to put that in any simpler terms.
GATORAZ
02-15-2013, 01:22 PM
How is Daub irrelevant when obviously you cared about him? No sour grapes on Phillps Miles might turned up the heat but Florida didnt. This happens all the time. Staffs get a commit from a kid they take it an many times are indifferent about him or change their mind later. The fan base never even knew who he was.
gator7_5
02-15-2013, 01:31 PM
How is Daub irrelevant when obviously you cared about him? No sour grapes on Phillps Miles might turned up the heat but Florida didnt. This happens all the time. Staffs get a commit from a kid they take it an many times are indifferent about him or change their mind later. The fan base never even knew who he was.
I did. But when you start to look at monsters like Morrison, you tend to forget about the lil guy. Kind of like our staff did.
Ubers point basically is Muschamp brushed off Phillips and Miles made him a top target. Real big shocker he stayed in state. lol.
What a joke.
gator7_5
02-15-2013, 01:34 PM
The suggestion that UF's coaches wouldn't care about a player they recruited, offered a scholarship to, and took a commitment from, is simply moronic.
Moronic? Ask Lornenzo II, ie, Quinton Powell if coaches cool on commited undersized linebackers.
Your statement above is moronic.
UberTiger
02-15-2013, 01:38 PM
I see, you like ESPN's rankings since they prop up your corner sized LB. Lets analyze that Top 150 2012 class.
FLorida - 28 players
Texas - 24 players
Louisiana - 4 players
I won't list Alabama and Ga., but it's way more than 4.
Then you have:
Louisiana players who went to LSU (#125, and Phillips #135)
Louisiana players who didn't (#6 Colllins to Alabama, #77 Davis to Texas)
So.
A. You'e not keeping your top talent in state
B. Now we know why you're a fan of a 195# LB. He's the second best player ya'll convinced to stay in state.
B. Louisiana isn't the most talent rich state even in your wildest wetdreams. Regardless of what per capita NFL stat you find.
You are correct though, Florida hasn't pulled kids out of La. lately. Now we know why. Not many Brock Berlins and Ike Hilliards around these days.
My statement is not an opinion, it is an objective fact.
Louisiana and Mississippi, which rank 25th and 31st in population, respectively, send more players per-person to the NFL than other states.
http://thedailyviz.com/2012/04/19/mapping-the-nfl-where-do-its-players-come-from/
Once again, facts are facts, and the fact is Louisiana produces more NFL players on a per capita basis than any other state, and by and large LSU gets whoever it wants in Louisiana on yearly basis.
UberTiger
02-15-2013, 01:42 PM
I did. But when you start to look at monsters like Morrison, you tend to forget about the lil guy. Kind of like our staff did.
Ubers point basically is Muschamp brushed off Phillips and Miles made him a top target. Real big shocker he stayed in state. lol.
What a joke.
If that makes you feel better to believe that, than so be it.
The facts are as outlined above, your opinions are what they are, and the two would seem to be mutually exclusive.
gator7_5
02-15-2013, 01:46 PM
Once again, facts are facts, and the fact is Louisiana produces more NFL on a per capita basis than any other state and by and large LSU gets whoever it wants in Louisiana on yearly basis.
What a retarded stat. So if Rhode Island gets a couple of players to the NFL, everyone in the country should start recruiting there? GTFO.
4 players in the top 150! Barely.
UberTiger
02-15-2013, 01:52 PM
I guess we can agree to disagree at this point.
gator7_5
02-15-2013, 01:54 PM
and beyond
UberTiger
04-21-2013, 05:30 PM
Here is a way way to early mock class that will end up being totally wrong so take it with a grain of salt. We wont even be able to take this many kids next cycle. Will have the top 40 Gator targets in the next few days
QB Will Grier
RB Adam Choice
RB Jalen Hurd
WR Ryeshene Bronson
WR Josh Malone
TE Kevin Crosby
OL Reilly Gibbons
OL Denzel Ward
OL Garrett Brumfield
OL Travaris Dorsey
SDE Gerald Willis
BUCK Denzel Ware
BUCK/DE John Thornton
DT Travonte Valentine
DT insert random top 15 DT
OLB Christian Miller
OLB Chris Register or Juwon Young
ILB Shaun Hamilton or Korey Rodgers
DB Duke Dawson
S Kendal Grant
CB Jalen Tabor
CB DJ Smith OR Grant Haley OR Wesley Green
S Jamal Adams
You can take Brumfield off your list, he just committed to the good guys.
http://lsu.247sports.com/Article/Garrett-brumfield-commits-to-LSU-127312
g8r925
04-21-2013, 05:54 PM
I see the corn dogs are still screaming about getting some good talent. When we have had better classes as a whole 3 of the last 4 yrs. Lorenzo Phillips was a forgone conclusion that he was going to end up at LSU even as early as a month after he committed to Florida.
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