Full Class

[corpgator]

Wow, 6 DTs. We finally are going to play with close to 85 scholarship players.

Does anyone have the break down of how many slots we had open with transfers, early draft entrants, and graduates?

Did I mention that we signed 6 DTs?

[619_Gator]

I like the 6 DT's too. I think Riles and Ivie will be hybrid players like Easley. The can play outside or inside depending on what D Durkin has them in.

[Nicho]

I like the 6 DT's too. I think Riles and Ivie will be hybrid players like Easley. The can play outside or inside depending on what D Durkin has them in.

I'm not sure Riles has the quicks to play end. But I definitely think Ivie and Bostwick can do it.

[LAGatorDoc]

6 D linemen, 6 O linemen. Line of scrimmage league. We will be a force to be reckoned with for the next two years at least on both lines. We will have to be more selective with our 2014 class and get great quality recruits as right now we can take 15. Attrition will give us a few more spots, and Roberson will leave early.

[1984Gator]

6 D linemen, 6 O linemen. Line of scrimmage league. We will be a force to be reckoned with for the next two years at least on both lines. We will have to be more selective with our 2014 class and get great quality recruits as right now we can take 15. Attrition will give us a few more spots, and Roberson will leave early.

And 2 OL transfers that plug right in!

[LAGatorDoc]

And 2 OL transfers that plug right in!

As well as 2 DT recruits that played together this year at CC, who one of them, by the way, played with another DT that's already on the team. 2 OTs that started in D1 schools. 3 DTs that played ball together (one of which we beat out Bama for his services), and another one that chose us over scUM and Bama. Muschamp is doing a great job

[NoahBeanBizzel]

This staff did a great job of providing instant depth across the line of scrimmage from the JUCO ranks (Cummings and Reed at DT, and Brown across the OL), and you may as well consider Moore and Garcia JUCO prospects; only better because both are proven at the division one level. So, almost half of the fourteen prospects brought in across the line of scrimmage will be counted on to provide depth immediately.

There's also plenty of high school talent to build around for the next few years. Great job by Muschamp and co. for blending in players who can contribute immedaitely, and also signing players who will develop over time.

[ETGator1]

We are at 81 which is probably as good as it gets. Without Ronald Powell and the injured OL most of us didn't know about, we started 12 with 75 ship players, not counting the two walkons that had ships.

It's nice to be closer to 85 and have the players be Muschamp players. Muschamp said in his NSD presser that the roster was back to where it should be. That was before the TE/OL project and getting one of the best punters in the nation.

Man down, man up will be easier this season.

[DeBigLeezard]

As well as 2 DT recruits that played together this year at CC, who one of them, by the way, played with another DT that's already on the team. 2 OTs that started in D1 schools. 3 DTs that played ball together (one of which we beat out Bama for his services), and another one that chose us over scUM and Bama. Muschamp is doing a great job

Doc...
Did not realize that about Reed and Cummings... and Jacobs!
And having Bostwick... wow! Nice to beat out the CoCanes and the Gumps!
Such a warm, fuzzy feeling on a Friday morning....

Fantastic post!

[gator07]

Does anyone have the break down of how many slots we had open with transfers, early draft entrants, and graduates?

I think the latest number was 33 open slots. After getting those last 2 recruits our class is up to 30. So I would assume that puts us at 82 out of the 85 roster spots taken.

Also looking ahead to 2014, this class of 30 had 8 EEs, so technically the 2014 class will only have 22 members counted against it meaning next year we could count 3 EEs back and sign 28 (if we're under the overall cap of 85 of course).

[gatorchamp27]

Going to be an interesting year, shout out to Dillman get these boys right

[qwghlmgator]

Doc...
Did not realize that about Reed and Cummings... and Jacobs!
And having Bostwick... wow! Nice to beat out the CoCanes and the Gumps!
Such a warm, fuzzy feeling on a Friday morning....

Fantastic post!

And having Cummings on campus for the Spring doesn't hurt either...

[fubar1]

Valentine will be the perfect compliment to this group in next year's class. I'm sure the staff will try and sign at least one more, but if we keep Valentine we probably don't have to swing for the fences on the 2nd.

[ETGator1]

Cummings and Reed played JUCO together in the 12 season.

Cummings spent one year at FSU. He and Jacobs didn't play JUCO together. Cummings has three years to play two years.

Reed spent one year in prep school which is why he has 4 years to play 3 years.

Jacobs spent two years at JUCO. He has 3 years to play 2 years.

To my knowledge, this is the first time all three have been on the same team even though they all came from the same Mississippi JUCO.

[rserina]

We desperately needed those numbers at tackle. The good thing is that many of kids are versatile. Ivie, Riles, Cummings, and Reed could all play strongside end as needed. Muschamp has gone on record saying he likes a big guy over there who can leverage the ball for you and force runs back inside, so much that he might even keep Easley there.

[MadduxFanII]

I mentioned a few months ago that I was really impressed with how Muschamp ad-libbed and recovered from some of last year's recruiting misses. I'm not usually a huge fan of JUCO guys, but we needed some instant impact players at positions where that's not usually what you get from recruiting.

Especially along the offensive line. We missed out on a lot of guys last year, but Muschamp really made up for that with Garcia and Moore. Game out the 2013 offensive line without those two, and it'll be pretty clear how important they were.

Muschamp missed on some guys in 2012, but the reality is every coach is going to make mistakes or is just going to have some things that don't work out. The measure of a coach is how he responds in those moments, and Muschamp recovered well.

[gatordee]

Definitely working on a line of scrimmage team. That along with some tom notch db's and top noth rb's should work out great for us. Talking about owning the 4th qrtr!!!!

[fubar1]

We should definitely be able to knock the snot out of each other in practice. And our 2nd units should be able to provide pretty stiff resistance to the starters.

[themistocles]

Actually, although the Line of Scrimmage is strong, I don't think of this as a Line of Scrimmage recruiting class.

I mean, when you have 5 likely WR prospects, 2 RBs, a QB, 4 DBs, and a top punter who also played QB and FS, that is 12 non LOS prospects.

I look at this as very nearly a COMPLETE recruiting class. Adding Young at tight end, Reed & Bostwick at DT and Townsend at Punter filled what I considered somewhat short areas (not Townsend).

The only position missing is FB.

[ETGator1]

Young is going to start at TE, but I can see him on the OL in the Jumbo package or at FB like the big FB at LSU this year.

Edit: JC Copeland 6'1"/272 is the big FB from LSU last season. At 6'6"/260. maybe Young is too tall for FB?

[Juggernautz]

Going to be an interesting year, shout out to Dillman get these boys right

AND, if they're not they will be...:yes:

[HotlantaGator]

WE haven't been this close to 85 schollies in a long time, when you do not oversign like BAMA used to do, and given the attrition due to NFL departures and GPD harassment of student-athletes, UF has been closer to 75 than 85 for a long long time...

It has always been hard to sign enough quality DTs, CUM had a great DT signing run, but too many of them (John brown, Torrey Davis, Gary Brown, etc..) could not stay in school...

Damien Jacobs has been the first JUCO DT signee in a while to actually contribute, JUCO signees have been usually disappointing at UF in my 25 years following recruiting, very few hits (Reynaldo Hill), way too many misses to list....

[Tebowism0823]

WE haven't been this close to 85 schollies in a long time, when you do not oversign like BAMA used to do, and given the attrition due to NFL departures and GPD harassment of student-athletes, UF has been closer to 75 than 85 for a long long time...

It has always been hard to sign enough quality DTs, CUM had a great DT signing run, but too many of them (John brown, Torrey Davis, Gary Brown, etc..) could not stay in school...

Damien Jacobs has been the first JUCO DT signee in a while to actually contribute, JUCO signees have been usually disappointing at UF in my 25 years following recruiting, very few hits (Reynaldo Hill), way too many misses to list....

Agreed

[NoahBeanBizzel]

WE haven't been this close to 85 schollies in a long time, when you do not oversign like BAMA used to do, and given the attrition due to NFL departures and GPD harassment of student-athletes, UF has been closer to 75 than 85 for a long long time...

It has always been hard to sign enough quality DTs, CUM had a great DT signing run, but too many of them (John brown, Torrey Davis, Gary Brown, etc..) could not stay in school...

Damien Jacobs has been the first JUCO DT signee in a while to actually contribute, JUCO signees have been usually disappointing at UF in my 25 years following recruiting, very few hits (Reynaldo Hill), way too many misses to list....

Yeah man, I wonder what it is? Up until Floyd, our last great DT was Gerard Warren. And I don't believe Warren was ever first-team All SEC. So, I don't know if a player can be considered "great" if he never even earned first-team, All-conference honors. McDonald was a very good player, who was part of a great defense. You'd really have to go back to Ellis Johnson. Chester and Reggie McGrew were just hurt far too often to be labeled as great players.

Our last couple of national championship teams have had marginal talents, who played with great motors at the DT positions. McDonald was probably the best of any of the DTs on either of those two teams, but that whole front seven made his job a whole lot easier. A lot of the top prospects we have brought in, have been busts. I

If Reed and Cummings do nothing more than provide depth, I'll be happy.

[og8trz]

When Bama trims down to 85, can we pick up some guys on waivers?

[ETGator1]

In 00 and 01, we had a JUCO DT that either started or was in the two deep for his two years with UF. That 01 team was a 34-32 December loss to UT away from going to the BCSNCG in the Rose Bowl.

I expect all 3 JUCOs to play well. Damien Jacobs has already proven himself as part of a very successful two deep. I expect both Cummings and Reed to be major contributors so much so that Muschamp is going to consider leaving Easley at DE.

[supagator]

I think the latest number was 33 open slots. After getting those last 2 recruits our class is up to 30. So I would assume that puts us at 82 out of the 85 roster spots taken.

Also looking ahead to 2014, this class of 30 had 8 EEs, so technically the 2014 class will only have 22 members counted against it meaning next year we could count 3 EEs back and sign 28 (if we're under the overall cap of 85 of course).

I think we only have 17 available. Well have more next year due to injuries, transfers, etc.

[FriendlyGator]

6 D linemen, 6 O linemen. Line of scrimmage league. We will be a force to be reckoned with for the next two years at least on both lines. We will have to be more selective with our 2014 class and get great quality recruits as right now we can take 15. Attrition will give us a few more spots, and Roberson will leave early.

I think we will see more attrition this year and we will sign closer to 25 next year than to 15. That is the nature of a full roster. Kids want to play. With a full roster we will have a few more of them than usual who realize they need to go elsewhere to be starters or meaningful backups.

And with a full roster is is also easier for Muschamp and Co. to tell kids who don't put out 100% every day that they should go elsewhere. (I'm not against "forced attrition" when it is because kids aren't giving it all.)

[ETGator1]

8-10 is normal annual attrition, say 9, so we'll likely sign 24 to 26 in the 14 class:

13 seniors + 3 counting back + 9 attrition = 25

[apkgator]

8-10 is normal annual attrition, say 9, so we'll likely sign 24 to 26 in the 14 class:

13 seniors + 3 counting back + 9 attrition = 25

Only 11 seniors, and counting back may depend on how close to 85 we truly are. Most people forget to count Ferris as a scholly, so we are 83 right now by my count.

[danky1313]

Yeah man, I wonder what it is? Up until Floyd, our last great DT was Gerard Warren. And I don't believe Warren was ever first-team All SEC. So, I don't know if a player can be considered "great" if he never even earned first-team, All-conference honors. McDonald was a very good player, who was part of a great defense. You'd really have to go back to Ellis Johnson. Chester and Reggie McGrew were just hurt far too often to be labeled as great players.

Our last couple of national championship teams have had marginal talents, who played with great motors at the DT positions. McDonald was probably the best of any of the DTs on either of those two teams, but that whole front seven made his job a whole lot easier. A lot of the top prospects we have brought in, have been busts. I

If Reed and Cummings do nothing more than provide depth, I'll be happy.

Marcus Thomas, and Scoop, were pretty damn good till he got booted.

[ETGator1]

83-11=74-9=65-2=63 - 85-63=22

Based on apkgator's information, 21-23 depending on annual attrition of 8 to 10? It clearly won't be another class of 30. Is it likely that we lose anyone else after spring?

[apkgator]

83-11=74-9=65-2=63 - 85-63=22

Based on apkgator's information, 21-23 depending on annual attrition of 8 to 10? It clearly won't be another class of 30. Is it likely that we lose anyone else after spring?

IMO the "easy" attrition has pretty much taken place...meaning the clear non contributors are already gone. Still some potential of course, and you have injuries (Silberman seems to have a chronic shoulder) and guys getting into trouble. Plus most think Robo and Purifoy turn pro.
My guess is in the 20-22 range

[UFreak]

The math was off on the first part, 83-11

[fubar1]

The DT is where I'm hoping Lawing makes a huge difference. We'll soon find out if we've been recruiting the wrong guys or had ineffective coaching, or both.

[GATORAZ]

The DT is where I'm hoping Lawing makes a huge difference. We'll soon find out if we've been recruiting the wrong guys or had ineffective coaching, or both.

I don't get this post. Our DT's played very well last year.

[ETGator1]

The DTs played very well too. I don't get the comment either. UF had the best defense in the nation in 12. Just ask Johnny Football.

[fubar1]

I don't get this post. Our DT's played very well last year.

I meant over the last several years. Floyd was the exception. Before him, we've gone a long time in Gatorcountry with DT play that wasn't near the best in the conference.

[GATORAZ]

I meant over the last several years. Floyd was the exception. Before him, we've gone a long time in Gatorcountry with DT play that wasn't near the best in the conference.
The DT's have played really well under Young and Quinn. Hunter played great last year for us. Easley played well when he has DT the last two years and the back ups last year (Orr & Jacobs) were more than adequate.

[fubar1]

The DT's have played really well under Young and Quinn. Hunter played great last year for us. Easley played well when he has DT the last two years and the back ups last year (Orr & Jacobs) were more than adequate.

Hunter finally saw the light this year...agree with that. But Easley was not a top SEC DT. Not all his fault either..not his natural position.

[GATORAZ]

Hunter finally saw the light this year...agree with that. But Easley was not a top SEC DT. Not all his fault either..not his natural position.

Easley played well at DT in 2011 it was his first year of action. How can you expect a kid to be the top DT in the SEC in his first year really playing?