Consensus Team Rankings - NSD Final

[ETGator1]

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44

[ETGator1]

Good article - the rankings matter:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21641769/recruiting-by-the-numbers-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

[The_Graygator]

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44


The Gators have had the #5 and #4 ranked classes the last two years and FSU actually dropped from #10 last year to #11 this year.

[elrongator]

If you throw out the Scout rankings as retarded, because they are, then you end up with a three way tie for second place between UF, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.
If you then take into account that we landed arguably the top two OL jucos who are not factored into the Rival rankings, inappropriately skewing rankings in favor of Ohio State and Notre Dame, I think ESPN got it right.
We are a close second to Alabama.
Simple

[regurgigator]

Good article - the rankings matter:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21641769/recruiting-by-the-numbers-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

Yes, thanks for the link. Pretty clearly shows that high star ratings have a very strong statistical correlation to individual player and team success.

[1984Gator]

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44

Add out two OL transfers and I'd say we did extremely well!

[demosthenes]

If you throw out the Scout rankings as retarded, because they are, then you end up with a three way tie for second place between UF, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.
If you then take into account that we landed arguably the top two OL jucos who are not factored into the Rival rankings, inappropriately skewing rankings in favor of Ohio State and Notre Dame, I think ESPN got it right.
We are a close second to Alabama.
Simple

And if you only count Florida recruits we're number one!

[DieAGator]

If you throw out the Scout rankings as retarded, because they are, then you end up with a three way tie for second place between UF, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.
If you then take into account that we landed arguably the top two OL jucos who are not factored into the Rival rankings, inappropriately skewing rankings in favor of Ohio State and Notre Dame, I think ESPN got it right.
We are a close second to Alabama.
Simple

I don't understand why this board has such hard feelings towards Scout. They actually bumped-up our WRs as the season progressed. They aren't manipulating to the detriment of UF or SEC.

[ETGator1]

I agree, Scout is the least reliable service. However, averaging the four softens their ineptitude. I don't know how they can make a case for Ohio State at 1 and Michigan at 2 over an Alabama class that is 1 on the other three services. Having UF at 8 is a farce as well.

[gator1986]

Scout is straight garbage... Every big 10 team is highly ranked, stupid ass fox...

[gator7_5]

Every UCLA fan in the country would trade classes with us. Ridiculous.

[MaceoP]

Scout is straight garbage... Every big 10 team is highly ranked, stupid ass fox...


Nebraska 23,23,17,11

Scout ranks Nebraska 11, the other three services average = 21 ?

I tend to agree with the above quote.

Nebraska fans are not happy with their class.

[maxgator]

I think Scout's "formula" is silly.

[StrangeGator]

If you throw out the Scout rankings as retarded, because they are, then you end up with a three way tie for second place between UF, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.
If you then take into account that we landed arguably the top two OL jucos who are not factored into the Rival rankings, inappropriately skewing rankings in favor of Ohio State and Notre Dame, I think ESPN got it right.
We are a close second to Alabama.
Simple

I don't even know why Scout was included. They've been irrelevant for years.

[qwghlmgator]

I don't understand why this board has such hard feelings towards Scout. They actually bumped-up our WRs as the season progressed. They aren't manipulating to the detriment of UF or SEC.

Their rankings don't even pass the glance test. And they're always weighted to the upper midewest/Big 16 or whatever they are today and the west (i.e. population centers with the most potential subscribers). tOSU #1? Michigan #2? UCLA #5 Really?

If there are seven classes out there better than ours I'll eat my shorts. Heck, if there are two better classes than Bama's I'll eat my shorts.

[Gatorrick22]

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44




If you want to make you compilation rankings better just take Scout out of the equation.

[Wormwood56]

If you want to make you compilation rankings better just take Scout out of the equation.

Done!

1. Alabama 1+1+1=3
2. Ohio State 3+5+2=10
2. Notre Dame 4+3+3=10
2. Florida 2+4+4=10
5. Mississippi 5+2+7=14
6. Michigan 6+8+5=19
6. Louisiana State 7+6+6=19
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10=25
9. Florida State 9+9+9=27
10. Auburn 11+10+8=29
11. UCLA 12+11+11=34
11. Georgia 10+12+12=34

[lurkingator1]

Scout is straight garbage... Every big 10 team is highly ranked, stupid ass fox...

yep! count me as one that also thinks scout is garbage :yes:

[DieAGator]

Their rankings don't even pass the glance test. Nothing personal but you would have to be an expert nationally to see that, then have to prove it. Unfortunately Ohio State has a damn good class, not as good as ours at some positions but as good or better in others. I wish I didn't have to say that.


And they're always weighted to the upper midewest/Big 16 or whatever they are today and the west (i.e. population centers with the most potential subscribers). Would like to see some examples. But I agree, for the most part I would take a top 20 player from Florida/Louisiana/Alabama/Georgia over a top 20 player from Midwest or NE.

tOSU #1? Michigan #2? UCLA #5 Really?

Michigan's class is strong as well. Four top OTs and OGs, 2 top RBs/1 top FB, 3 decent WRs, top QB, top TE. It doesn't get that much better, on paper. They have talent and/or numbers at every position on defense: 3 top 25 DL(a little light), 2 top 20 LBs(a little light), 2 top safeties and excellent CB class.

The good news is they are a threat to tarnish Urban Meyer's cakewalk to the NC.

UCLA's class not that good top to bottom but really strong as some positions- love their OL class. But for that matter, Bama's class is not great all around. They got 3 OL(two are JUCOs), 2LBs, ZERO safeties.

If there are seven classes out there better than ours I'll eat my shorts. Heck, if there are two better classes than Bama's I'll eat my shorts.

There is margin for error in Scout's system but the difference in their system between our class and Bama/Mich's/Bama's is essentially the extra point value they place on their 5 star recipients. I believe if we would have landed those 5 stars we would have the points, not Bama/Mich/OSU. So I just don't see it as unfair, unless someone can prove Scout is incorrectly evaluating players.

Not picking your post apart to single you out qwgh, just don't see why people dismiss Scout's evaluations and rankings just because UF isn't ranked as highly with them. It's not a conspiracy.

[grant1]

Consensus #4 and still people are complaining.

[ETGator1]

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44

2012 Top 12 Rankings For Year Over Year Comparison:

1. Alabama 1+1+1+2=5
2. Texas 3+3+2+1=9
3. Florida 4+4+3+5=16
4. Ohio State 6+5+4+3=18
5. Florida State 2+2+6+11=21
6. Michigan 7+8+7+4=26
7. Stanford 12+7+5+7=31
8. Miami 8+10+9+9=36
9. Georgia 5+6+12+14=37
10. Oklahoma 11+13+11+10=45
11. Auburn 17+12+10+8=47
12. Louisiana State 14+11+18+6=49

Of the top 12 in each year, 8 teams were in the top 12 both years:

1. Alabama 6+5=11
2. Ohio State 11+18=29
3. Florida 18+16=34
4. Michigan 21+26=47
5. Florida State 43+21=64
6. Louisiana State 25+49=74
7. Georgia 44+37=81
8. Auburn 42+47=89

My guess is Gus Malzahn is going to look like a brilliant hire after next season. It could be that AU has a transition year, but they have the players if the offensive and defensive systems fits them.

There are other teams that have good two year combined scores. Notre Dame and Texas are good examples, but there are several more.

[Nicho]

Done!

1. Alabama 1+1+1=3
2. Ohio State 3+5+2=10
2. Notre Dame 4+3+3=10
2. Florida 2+4+4=10
5. Mississippi 5+2+7=14
6. Michigan 6+8+5=19
6. Louisiana State 7+6+6=19
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10=25
9. Florida State 9+9+9=27
10. Auburn 11+10+8=29
11. UCLA 12+11+11=34
11. Georgia 10+12+12=34

As with most outliers, Scout should rightfully be tossed. Based on this reranking above, I am comfortable saying we have a top 3 class. Great work by the staff.

[ETGator1]

Thanks for your help "wormwood". Virginia Tech looks pretty good, but I didn't carry the rankings out to know the combined scores.

[Gatorrick22]

Done!

1. Alabama 1+1+1=3
2. Ohio State 3+5+2=10
2. Notre Dame 4+3+3=10
2. Florida 2+4+4=10
5. Mississippi 5+2+7=14
6. Michigan 6+8+5=19
6. Louisiana State 7+6+6=19
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10=25
9. Florida State 9+9+9=27
10. Auburn 11+10+8=29
11. UCLA 12+11+11=34
11. Georgia 10+12+12=34

Well done my friend, well done. This makes us tied for second.

[Nicho]

I propose that from now on we refer to that horrible network as "Scout-liar".

[ETGator1]

For those asking about rankings updates in other threads on the two late signees, I checked this morning. UF didn't get enough to move up and tOSU didn't lose enough to go down. UF finished at consensus #4 in 13 after finishing at consensus #3 in 12.

Before someone says take Scout out, UF remains tied with Ohio State and Notre Dame for 2nd with Scout removed from the scoring even with the two late signees.

I did note that 10-12 is now tied at #10 with Auburn, Florida State, and Georgia having the same consensus scores. Clemson was still a distant #13.

[Gator515151]

Their rankings don't even pass the glance test. And they're always weighted to the upper midewest/Big 16 or whatever they are today and the west (i.e. population centers with the most potential subscribers). tOSU #1? Michigan #2? UCLA #5 Really?

If there are seven classes out there better than ours I'll eat my shorts. Heck, if there are two better classes than Bama's I'll eat my shorts.

Umm eating ones own shorts doesn't impress me.

[The_Graygator]

No matter how much you don't like one poll, you have to average all of them IMO. Unfortunately, one certain stalking nole-troll only uses what he needs. Lets not be like stalking nole-trolls. :wink:

NSD Final (10:30 PM EST) - Top 12 based on the combined rankings of ESPN, 247 Sports, Rivals, and Scout:


1. Alabama 1+1+1+3=6
2. Ohio State 3+5+2+1=11
3. Notre Dame 4+3+3+4=14
4. Florida 2+4+4+8=18
5. Michigan 6+8+5+2=21
6. Mississippi 5+2+7+9=23
7. Louisiana State 7+6+6+6T=25
8. Texas A&M 8+7+10+6T=31
9. UCLA 12+11+11+5=39
10. Auburn 11+10+8+13=42
11. Florida State 9+9+9+16=43
12. Georgia 10+12+12+10=44

[ETGator1]

BTW, UF did move up to #7 on Scout - lowered UF to a score of 17. aTm held at #6 and LSU dropped to #8.

AU, FSU, and UGALY had the same score of 43.

[themistocles]

Their rankings don't even pass the glance test. And they're always weighted to the upper midewest/Big 16 or whatever they are today and the west (i.e. population centers with the most potential subscribers). tOSU #1? Michigan #2? UCLA #5 Really?

If there are seven classes out there better than ours I'll eat my shorts. Heck, if there are two better classes than Bama's I'll eat my shorts.

You know qwgl, I think that is a safe bet.

[JerseyGator01]

Me thinks recruiting rankings can be overrated since so many teams recruit based on needs at certain positions. If you recruit half a dozen from one position and sign maybe 22, wouldn't that look so-so in the recruiting rankings?

[Gatorrick22]

BTW, UF did move up to #7 on Scout - lowered UF to a score of 17. aTm held at #6 and LSU dropped to #8.

AU, FSU, and UGALY had the same score of 43.

I understand what you're saying, but if you continue to take Scout out of the equation then maybe they'll get wind of it and fix their broken-a$$ system of rankings. :laugh:

Probably not but I do think taking them out makes the overall composite rankings less skewed.

[The_Graygator]

BTW, UF did move up to #7 on Scout - lowered UF to a score of 17. aTm held at #6 and LSU dropped to #8.

AU, FSU, and UGALY had the same score of 43.


But apparently, Scout's ranking doesn't count to certain nolie-trolls. :whoa::laugh:

[ofmgator]

Scout is oart of Fox Sports and Fox is not into college football as much as ESPN .You can really see this whenever you watch a Fox broadcast of a college game. ESPN spends more time nd money on college sports and has multiple "experts" on which to build an opiion...Fox is second rate as is Rivals.

[gator1986]

Scout is oart of Fox Sports and Fox is not into college football as much as ESPN .You can really see this whenever you watch a Fox broadcast of a college game. ESPN spends more time nd money on college sports and has multiple "experts" on which to build an opiion...Fox is second rate as is Rivals.

Yea fox with college sucks... I hate scout they are seriously pro Big 12/Big 10....

[Gatorrick22]

Yea fox with college sucks... I hate scout they are seriously pro Big 12/Big 10....

This.

[Gator63]

Couple of thoughts:

1. Looks like Texas A&M joining the SEC has paid off very well for them. When was the last time they beat out Texas (by such a wide margin)? They are going to be a PITA, especially with Johnny Football as QB for the next few years. They could win the SEC in a couple of years.

2. Nice to see USC not in the top ten. Very nice.

[Minister_of_Information]

In terms of meeting our needs and adding depth and talent, it's hard to see how our class could have been more than marginally better.

[DieAGator]

In terms of meeting our needs and adding depth and talent, it's hard to see how our class could have been more than marginally better.

I suppose a couple more highly ranked OL and another DE would make me feel better. But I think with the versatility of our DL recruits we probably have a couple that can or will play DE spots. This OL class in its entirety could turn out to be excellent. Hopefully all our LBs will contribute at an SEC level over the next few years. But all in all, after reviewing quite a few other teams it looks like the article is spot on, we have one of the most well rounded classes.

[gatormoe1]

I disregard Scout and 247. For some reason I can't take 247 seriously, at all.

[GatorJeff]

I don't understand why this board has such hard feelings towards Scout. They actually bumped-up our WRs as the season progressed. They aren't manipulating to the detriment of UF or SEC.

Are you kidding? Comparing ESPN, Rivals and Scout, Scout had 4 of our 5 wide receiver signees (Robinson, Bailey, Hawkins and Thompson) ranked the lowest of all three. Absurd was that they have Bailey (who was extremely impressive during the Under Armor week) ranked as a three star and only the 59th best at his position. Heck, ESPN has Bailey as the 77th best OVERALL PLAYER, and Rivals has him as the #7 WR. Scout has Hawkins as a three star and 79th at his position, while ESPN rates him a four star and 25th at his position. ESPN has Robinson as the #7 WR, Rivals has him #5, while Scout has him #14. Fulwood was the only one the didn't have as lowest, and that was about a tie with Scout rating him #13, Rivals had him #16 and ESPN rated him #14.

[GatorJeff]

Scout.com is already low-balling us for 2014, based on the recently released player rankings. Will Grier is rated as the #2 QB and #18 overall player by Rivals, but only the #6 QB and 119th best player by Scout. His commitment to UF rather than to Michigan or Ohio State cost him 100 ranking spots in the Midwestern "homer" index.