2012's team vs 2013's team by position

[acegator]

Can someone break down the position gains and reductions from last years team? For example (I don't know if this is correct but..

WR
lost 2 from last years team due to seniors, transfers, ect
Gained 5 from this years recruiting class

[socraticsilence]

QB- no one other than Trey and Jeff has attempted a pass at the college level- regardless of performance Driskel will start unless injured. This is the position of biggest need for next years class.

[ugaGator]

QB- no one other than Trey and Jeff has attempted a pass at the college level- regardless of performance Driskel will start unless injured. This is the position of biggest need for next years class.

Got Grier coming in!:yes:

[Ahab]

QB - Lost Brissett, added Staver
RB - Lost Gillislee & Johnson, added Taylor & Lane
WR - Lost Hammond, Hines & Alli, added Robinson, Fulwood, Hawkins, Bailey & Thompson
TE - Lost Reed
OL - Lost Nixon, Wilson, Robey & Jordan, added Garcia, Moore, Brown, Dillard, Johnson & Jackson

DT - Lost Floyd, Hunter & Alajajian, added Cummings, Reed, Brantley, Bostwick, Riles & Ivie
DE - Lost Okine & Johnson, added Sherit
LB - Lost Bostic, McCray & Jenkins, added McMillian, Anzalone, Davis & Rolin
S - Lost Elam, Evans & Saunders, added Harris, Neal & Washington
CB - Added Hargreaves

We had BIG holes at RB, WR, OL, DT, & LB and nailed every one of them. Not only did we get the numbers we needed but looks like we got equal or better talent at each position.

[supagator]

Boy, im sure gonna miss floyd, hunter, pop, and elam.

[acegator]

Ahab, thank you.

so to break it down further...


QB even- Lost Brissett, added Staver
RB - plus 1 because Johnson hardly played right?- Lost Gillislee & Johnson, added Taylor & Lane
WR -plus 2- Lost Hammond, Hines & Alli, added Robinson, Fulwood, Hawkins, Bailey & Thompson
TE -minus 1- Lost Reed
OL - plus 3 because jordan hardly played right? Lost Nixon, Wilson, Robey & Jordan, added Garcia, Moore, Brown, Dillard, Johnson & Jackson

DT - plus 3 because isn't one of the freshmen redshirting because of injury? Lost Floyd, Hunter & Alajajian, added Cummings, Reed, Brantley, Bostwick, Riles & Ivie
DE - even because powel comes back-Lost Okine & Johnson, added Sherit
LB - plus 1-Lost Bostic, McCray & Jenkins, added McMillian, Anzalone, Davis & Rolin
S - even-Lost Elam, Evans & Saunders, added Harris, Neal & Washington
CB -plus 1- Added Hargreaves


so basically our team will be deeper at most positions

[socraticsilence]

Got Grier coming in!:yes:

No doubt but we need more Grier looks good but the lack of big comp scares me a lot, additionally we have no one with experience this year other than JD and who is gonna push him and or come in if he doesn't improve?

[Ahab]

I'd rate the positions for 2013 compared to 2012 as such:

Better at QB - Driskel should be better but have no experienced backup now.
Worse at RB - Gillislee was a workhorse. Add two talented RB but don't know when they'll be ready.
Better at WR - Hope to see improvement from existing players and that we get lucky with a freshman.
Worse at TE - Really need Taylor & Thompson to step up.
Better at OL - The transfers should help. Good mix of experience and young talent.

Worse at DT - Floyd was a stud & Hunter had a good senior year. The JUCOs should help fill the gap.
Better at DE - Powell is back plus Fowler & Bullard should blossom.
Worse at LB - Not much experience returning. Will have to rely on young guys for PT.
Worse at S - Lost our top 3 and backups haven't played much. Need young guys to emerge.
Better at CB - Everyone returns plus add the #1 CB recruit.

[gymgator]

I would put Riles & Ivie at DE instead of DT. I know they could move inside, but I think if they are to see the filed it will be at DE this season.

Everything else is pretty spot on.

[DawgFanFromAlabam]

QB - Lost Brissett, added Staver
RB - Lost Gillislee & Johnson, added Taylor & Lane
WR - Lost Hammond, Hines & Alli, added Robinson, Fulwood, Hawkins, Bailey & Thompson
TE - Lost Reed
OL - Lost Nixon, Wilson, Robey & Jordan, added Garcia, Moore, Brown, Dillard, Johnson & Jackson

DT - Lost Floyd, Hunter & Alajajian, added Cummings, Reed, Brantley, Bostwick, Riles & Ivie
DE - Lost Okine & Johnson, added Sherit
LB - Lost Bostic, McCray & Jenkins, added McMillian, Anzalone, Davis & Rolin
S - Lost Elam, Evans & Saunders, added Harris, Neal & Washington
CB - Added Hargreaves

We had BIG holes at RB, WR, OL, DT, & LB and nailed every one of them. Not only did we get the numbers we needed but looks like we got equal or better talent at each position.

You really think those guys are greater than or equal to Elam and Bostic?

[JohnC1908]

You really think those guys are greater than or equal to Elam and Bostic?

I like Bostic and all but I'd hope we got at least equal value. Agreed on Elam, it's going to be a long time before we see the likes of him.

[Ahab]

I don't think the freshmen are equal talent right now but they definitely have that level of potential. I was really rating them as groups. I think McMillian, Anzalone, Davis & Rolin stack up well to Bostic, McCray & Jenkins.

[geauxgator1]

You really think those guys are greater than or equal to Elam and Bostic?

This happens every year, younger guys mature and play better. Every year you wonder how you are going to replace people, and sure, soemtimes you'll never replace certain special people, (Harvin, Tebow), but other position players have tremendous impact and things just keep rolling on. Looks like we are stocked overall, better at some postions, not so much at others. Things have a way of working out, and other guys step in and step it up.

[Danielmaddie]

Hate to say it but we also lost Patchan on the OL

[TheRaid]

Hate to say it but we also lost Patchan on the OL

Who?

We lost him every year.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Ahab, thank you.

so to break it down further...


QB even- Lost Brissett, added Staver
RB - plus 1 because Johnson hardly played right?- Lost Gillislee & Johnson, added Taylor & Lane
WR -plus 2- Lost Hammond, Hines & Alli, added Robinson, Fulwood, Hawkins, Bailey & Thompson
TE -minus 1- Lost Reed
OL - plus 3 because jordan hardly played right? Lost Nixon, Wilson, Robey & Jordan, added Garcia, Moore, Brown, Dillard, Johnson & Jackson

DT - plus 3 because isn't one of the freshmen redshirting because of injury? Lost Floyd, Hunter & Alajajian, added Cummings, Reed, Brantley, Bostwick, Riles & Ivie
DE - even because powel comes back-Lost Okine & Johnson, added Sherit
LB - plus 1-Lost Bostic, McCray & Jenkins, added McMillian, Anzalone, Davis & Rolin
S - even-Lost Elam, Evans & Saunders, added Harris, Neal & Washington
CB -plus 1- Added Hargreaves


so basically our team will be deeper at most positions

I don't think you can discount guys who didn't play in lieu of guys who have never played in this estimate.

[DMann]

We also have some redshirts who have talent and are bigger/stronger this year who could contribute. If we can come up with 3-4 first year contributors this year like last year, we ought to be pretty good. CWM believes the SEC is a line of scrimmage league and we're big and deep on both sides of the ball. 11 wins might be hard to duplicate but I do see us beating UGA and USCe and playing Bama in Atlanta. I see our 2013 success based upon keeping Driskel healthy enough to be a running threat, a receiver or two stepping up and our young RB's contributing in the RB by committee mode.

[socraticsilence]

This happens every year, younger guys mature and play better. Every year you wonder how you are going to replace people, and sure, soemtimes you'll never replace certain special people, (Harvin, Tebow), but other position players have tremendous impact and things just keep rolling on. Looks like we are stocked overall, better at some postions, not so much at others. Things have a way of working out, and other guys step in and step it up.

Bostic, was good but I could see us upgrading, Elam (and to a lesser extent Evans) are much bigger holes- freshman regardless of talent level need time to mature and gain experience- other than QB, safety is probably the most experience dependent position on the field- look how our safeties jumped from 2007 to 2008-- we could experience something similar next season but this year big plays might happen.

[TheGator]

I'd rate the positions for 2013 compared to 2012 as such:

Better at QB - Driskel should be better but have no experienced backup now.
Worse at RB - Gillislee was a workhorse. Add two talented RB but don't know when they'll be ready.
Better at WR - Hope to see improvement from existing players and that we get lucky with a freshman.
Worse at TE - Really need Taylor & Thompson to step up.
Better at OL - The transfers should help. Good mix of experience and young talent.

Worse at DT - Floyd was a stud & Hunter had a good senior year. The JUCOs should help fill the gap.
Better at DE - Powell is back plus Fowler & Bullard should blossom.
Worse at LB - Not much experience returning. Will have to rely on young guys for PT.
Worse at S - Lost our top 3 and backups haven't played much. Need young guys to emerge.
Better at CB - Everyone returns plus add the #1 CB recruit.

Wow. Not sure where to begin. At RB, not to mention the guys coming in, Matt Jones is a stud. If Jones continues to improve, we will be much better.

LB. Did you forget about Morrison? He might have been better than our starting guys. Also forgot to mention Ball and Taylor. Both look solid and should continue to improve.

At Safety, Brian Poole looks to be a stud.

[SkyChimp]

11 wins might be hard to duplicate but I do see us beating UGA and USCe and playing Bama in Atlanta.

I think we are undefeated until the LSU game. If we can win in death valley against LSU, then we will be undefeated headed into the SECCG. I think we have good chance to beat 11 wins this year. Thoughts???

[manigordo]

Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.

Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.

Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.

Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.

[GatorSean]

Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.

Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.

Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.

Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.


Yep. There is almost 0% chance our defense is as good as it was last year.

Unfortunately some here will blame Durkin as the new DC, but you just can't lose this much NFL talent and then expect to somehow stay at the same level or even get better.

[socraticsilence]

If the D takes a step back the offense needs to take a leap forward of we want to win 10 games much less compete for the East.

[TheGator]

Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.

Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.

Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.

Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.


Our D was pretty good with less experience in 2011, but the effort was masked by an inept offense. The difference in 2012 is the team played like a team. I suspect unless something happens, we will continue to play like a team. The level of play from the backups this year we not a big drop off, and may have been better at the LB positions with Taylor and Morrison. These guys will be in the NFL as well. Ball also showed a lot of promise and will continue to improve.

We will be fine in 2013. If the offense can put more points on the board then the sky is the limit.

[geauxgator1]

Bostic, was good but I could see us upgrading, Elam (and to a lesser extent Evans) are much bigger holes- freshman regardless of talent level need time to mature and gain experience- other than QB, safety is probably the most experience dependent position on the field- look how our safeties jumped from 2007 to 2008-- we could experience something similar next season but this year big plays might happen.

Sure, Elam was a beast, and Bostic was very good, but I beleive the younger will step it up and fill in, and our offense should be better this year. The worst I see us is at 9-3, but I'm not sleeping less at night worrying about it.

[manigordo]

Our D was pretty good with less experience in 2011, but the effort was masked by an inept offense. The difference in 2012 is the team played like a team. I suspect unless something happens, we will continue to play like a team. The level of play from the backups this year we not a big drop off, and may have been better at the LB positions with Taylor and Morrison. These guys will be in the NFL as well. Ball also showed a lot of promise and will continue to improve.

We will be fine in 2013. If the offense can put more points on the board then the sky is the limit.

Don't disagree at all. We will be fine. Of course, I did not say we wouldn't; just that our D would take a step back. I believe you are correct about the O and how it will make the D easier. Doesn't change my outlook on D.

[gator7_5]

No doubt but we need more Grier looks good but the lack of big comp scares me a lot, additionally we have no one with experience this year other than JD and who is gonna push him and or come in if he doesn't improve?

He's #18 player on the Rivals Top 100! Theres not another QB who's better. He was selected by the staff as our top priority.

Maybe If Urban offers, you'll gain some faith in him?

[619_Gator]

Grier is #2 QB on Rivals 100. Watson is #1. Grier is really good. Not worried. Some people on here will complain about everything. It is just what they do.