Some money is being exchanged in Oxford

[RabbitDrinks]

I mean come on, how is OLE MISS pulling Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Treadwell, etc...all these big time recruits? These recruits are passing over Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc...for Ole Miss on their own? GET. REAL.

[tec68]

Treadwell did not pass over Florida. Nkemdiche's brother is there.

[Zanso]

I mean come on, how is OLE MISS pulling Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Treadwell, etc...all these big time recruits? These recruits are passing over Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc...for Ole Miss on their own? GET. REAL.

The only one that doesn't make sense is Tunsil. So really doesn't mean much. You could have posted it in one of the other 100 threads though.

[RabbitDrinks]

The only one that doesn't make sense is Tunsil. So really doesn't mean much. You could have posted it in one of the other 100 threads though.

Nah, I'm good.

[jjenkins5]

Ole Miss better be careful. Don't they know that when they play by Bama's rules and get caught they will serve punishment for their misdeeds AND Bama's? I kid, I kid, well, sorta.

[rserina]

Clemson, yes. Not Ole Miss. This is just the second year bump for a coaching staff with a ton of recruiting connections, a little luck (star's brother already on campus), and some nice momentum built on relationships between these recruits. They won't be able to sustain it, I don't believe.

[HudsonGator]

I agree with the OP.

Ole Miss hasn't been able to recruit like this since, well ever.

[chicogator1]

Something is going on,don't know if its mojo or money.

[dadx4]

I am going with something fishy is going on down there.

[GatorSean]

Clemson, yes. Not Ole Miss. This is just the second year bump for a coaching staff with a ton of recruiting connections, a little luck (star's brother already on campus), and some nice momentum built on relationships between these recruits. They won't be able to sustain it, I don't believe.

I agree with this. They just got a lot of momentum and used it to their advantage. If this happens for several years in a row, then yes, probably something fishy is going on. But just getting a good class for one year, when most of the recruits have a logical reason to go there doesn't really imply cheating.

[Swampmaster]

it will not matter---ole miss will be fourth in the SEC west

1. alabama
2. texas A&M
3. lsu
4. ole miss
5. arkansas
6. auburn
7. miss state

[BigSlick]

Old piss????? Really??????

[ufmba2003]

Let's see if he enrolls this Fall. He's at best a borderline qualifier.

[RabbitDrinks]

Now Antonio Conner just commited to Ole Miss, the #2 ranked Safety. This is sickening.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

say what you will, but a class like this has the potential to make ole miss into an actual contender

the sec will dominate for some time to come

[RabbitDrinks]

Yeah right. They are just now a glorified 6 loss team.

[socraticsilence]

Clemson, yes. Not Ole Miss. This is just the second year bump for a coaching staff with a ton of recruiting connections, a little luck (star's brother already on campus), and some nice momentum built on relationships between these recruits. They won't be able to sustain it, I don't believe.

Agreed, Tunsil could show that they'll do well but not this well in the future-- Treadwell and Nk are flukes- guys who are coming do to pre-existing connections.

[Gatorphenom]

it will not matter---ole miss will be fourth in the SEC west

1. alabama
2. texas A&M
3. lsu
4. ole miss
5. arkansas
6. auburn
7. miss state

Not really, Ole Miss should have beat A&M last year, this team is for real. They could easily finish 2 or 3 next year in the SEC West. Not sure why people think LSU will be good next year, loses way too much talent, and no proven QB. Desmond Howard just said Ole Miss finally learned how to recruit the "SEC" way......haha wow.

Tunsil is strange but everyone knows the guy is scared of competition and wanted to start from day 1. But from Florida to Mississippi is a hell of a culture shock....for just football alone....also they got the #1 Juco player. Strange indeed.

[socraticsilence]

Yeah right. They are just now a glorified 6 loss team.

Disagree, Freeze is a good offensive coach and now they have talent, they wont immediately challenge Bama, LSU or Tamu but in a couple of years they could be a dark horse team if things fall right and players develop.

[gator7_5]

It'll take more than a handful of superstars in one class to compete for the west. You need to do that every year. They still have a pile of 2 and 3 stars roaming the sidelines at Ole Miss.

I think he can keep it up if he stays though. If he can put together a string of top 10 classes, watch out.

[fox]

Agree with OP.

If it walks and quacks like a duck...

[HudsonGator]

It'll take more than a handful of superstars in one class to compete for the west. You need to do that every year. They still have a pile of 2 and 3 stars roaming the sidelines at Ole Miss.

I think he can keep it up if he stays though. If he can put together a string of top 10 classes, watch out.

Agreed, Ole Miss is in a pretty big hole talent-wise when compared to Bama and LSU, it will need 2 more classes like this one to catch up.

If Archie had another kid in HS playing QB that would of course help.

[iam4uf]

To come out of nowhere with a top five class does raise some suspicions. It's not like basketball where you just need to convince one player. Ole Miss has had to pull in player after player - they got five that are in the top ten at their position, two of these are the best at their position. A team would have to have almost a 90% chance of landing each individual player to have a greater than 50% chance of landing all five. I understand there is some family involved, so each signee isn't a completely independent event but still... Things look a little more out of whack when you see they have a roster with more than 100 players.

[gatorjlm]

To come out of nowhere with a top five class does raise some suspicions. It's not like basketball where you just need to convince one player. Ole Miss has had to pull in player after player - they got five that are in the top ten at their position, two of these are the best at their position. A team would have to have almost a 90% chance of landing each individual player to have a greater than 50% chance of landing all five. I understand there is some family involved, so each signee isn't a completely independent event but still... Things look a little more out of whack when you see they have a roster with more than 100 players.

Actually by some; #1 DE, #1 WR, #1 OT, #3 OT, #2 S. That is a lot of top guys for anybody.

[LimeyGator]

You guys are being too hard. Oxford is one of the best universities in our small nation. Tunsil, Nkemdiche and company clearly value a good ol' edjumication. ;)

[fox]

Imagine if Maryland had done the same thing.

[gatorjlm]

Imagine if Maryland had done the same thing.

exactly

[gnvgator]

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[GreenandScaly]

Even Cam Newton's dad thinks something's rotten in Oxford.

[Tolbert1906]

I mean come on, how is OLE MISS pulling Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Treadwell, etc...all these big time recruits? These recruits are passing over Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc...for Ole Miss on their own? GET. REAL.
Maybe Freeze is just a really great recruiter and coach? He took that dumpster fire of a football program and turned it around in one year.

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[raidsgt]

You guys are being too hard. Oxford is one of the best universities in our small nation. Tunsil, Nkemdiche and company clearly value a good ol' edjumication. ;)

Guaranteed to be an UN-opposed starter....
The guy on campus, not just another guy.....
having 8 wins be a TERRIFIC season....

Low akkademik stan dardes...

And a chance to say you got beat by the best teams in the country, and you beat Auburn, miss st. And Kentucky. ..

Why would you not go to Ol Missy

[tommyuf21]

Clemson, yes. Not Ole Miss. This is just the second year bump for a coaching staff with a ton of recruiting connections, a little luck (star's brother already on campus), and some nice momentum built on relationships between these recruits. They won't be able to sustain it, I don't believe.

The only way they sustain, imo, is if they are able to translate this into consistent on field success.

The Orgeron group that Houston Nutt got a good year or two out of didn't do much for them, except spoiling our undefeated season in 2008.

Freeze will have no excuses though and the expectations will be very high. High expectations in Oxford is a scary proposition for those who work there.

[rivergator]

I think we ought to have more evidence than "they're doing better than I thought they would" to declare cheating has to be going on. You know, like maybe evidence of cheating ...
As it is, none of us knows.

[G8R92]

Give it time. In a few years, we'll get another Willie Lyles story floating to the surface.

[dadx4]

Friese put out a twitter with a link to Ole Miss cpmpliance and basically said..."if anyone has proof send it to them.

[DeBigLeezard]

I think that Morgan Freeman called over to Clarksdale, MS and summoned up the Blues Voodoo Gods!
(Check out the Ground Zero Juke Joint in Clarksdale... he is a part owner.)

Mojo?
Money?
Wemin?
Car rims?
Shoes?
Wemin in The Grove?
Mo' money?
Luck?

Look at this way...
If Tunsil was NOT going to Florida... then, the BEST SEC school for him to attend would be: Ole Miss or Miss State.

Tunsil, Nkemdice, Connor, etc could have ALL gone to Alabama, Auburn or Georgia and the rich would have gotten richer.

But by having Tunsil going to Ole Miss is perfect. It strengthens the West Division even more. Alabama might wind up beating Ole Miss 9 outta 10 times but if Ole Miss has got some better athletes... then the Alabama's, LSU's and the Georgia's of the world are going to get beat and... beat up in the process. Auburn may beat Ole Miss but gets dinged up the week before they play us?

5-Star Connor might pick off an Alabama pass and run it back with 20 seconds in the game to come from behind and beat the Gumps... in Tuscaloosa!

Nkemdice might stuff a run or sack an LSU quarterback with a minute to go to win the game.
Who knows?

But all of us need to feel great about Ole Miss becoming stronger in the SEC West.
It does nothing but helps out the Gators!!!!
Ole Miss has been the doormat for waaaay too long. Oxford needs to feel great about something.

[rcole415]

Ole Miss has been down for quite a while, but the program that Johnny Vaught built, which included two generations of quarterbacks named Manning, and a strong statewide following, won't stay down forever. While it is true that a recruiting class (in both college and pro football) is best judged two or three years out, great classes tend carry over to following years, especially those of new coaches who are (re-)building programs (see Meyer & Muschamp).

[lazyxgator]

Watched Tunsil play against Navarre HS in the play-offs and came away very unimpressed. So, to me, no big loss.

Part of the problem may have been Navarre's lack of size on the D-line but had good quickness. He seemed to pout after every play because the DE would run around him on most passing situations. After losing, he didn't want to shake hands and made a quick exit to the locker room as the clock wound to zero.

Good luck Ole Miss.

[woltes]

I'm happy for Ole Miss just makes the SEC that much better.

[UF24ou14]

How many dollar signs does it take to spell Mi$$i$$ippi? Nkemdiche I understand. I don't remember Ole Miss even being in it with Tunsil. A top-flight black recruit from Illinois wanting to play ball in Mississippi? Really? In a state that would love to reinstitute segregation? I'm calling BS on them pulling in these players without doing something they aren't supposed to do. Hell, they even went into Alabama and pulled a highly regarded recruit that Bama wanted. Having said that, I'm glad they got recruits to go there instead of Bama, LSU, UGA, etc., but I'm not buying they did it above board.

[GATORAZ]

How many dollar signs does it take to spell Mi$$i$$ippi? Nkemdiche I understand. I don't remember Ole Miss even being in it with Tunsil. A top-flight black recruit from Illinois wanting to play ball in Mississippi? Really? In a state that would love to reinstitute segregation? I'm calling BS on them pulling in these players without doing something they aren't supposed to do. Hell, they even went into Alabama and pulled a highly regarded recruit that Bama wanted. Having said that, I'm glad they got recruits to go there instead of Bama, LSU, UGA, etc., but I'm not buying they did it above board.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130207/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-signing-day/

[dadx4]

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Doh!!!!

[Tolbert1906]

Great article. Freeze seems like a force to be reckoned with.

This whole thread should really be locked though. Rumor threads are bad enough, but unfounded accusations of impropriety should not be tolerated, in my opinion. This thead reeks of fear. Had 'Oxford' been replaced with 'Northwestern University' in the thread title, no one would care.

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[GATORAZ]

If you read the article you will see how it was done. They got really lucky with connections and Kiffin basically stalked Tunsil for a year.

[DuPontGator]

If you read the article you will see how it was done. They got really lucky with connections and Kiffin basically stalked Tunsil for a year.

That article is proof they are legit?

[GATORAZ]

That article is proof they are legit?
Of course not but no team in the country can prove they are clean. It does however give you more info on how they could have done it clean.

[DuPontGator]

Of course not but no team in the country can prove they are clean. It does however give you more info on how they could have done it clean.

Yeah I guess. I'm staying neutral in this one.

[GATORAZ]

Yeah I guess. I'm staying neutral in this one.

So am I. I never said they were clean I have just been saying it makes sense when you actually look at who they got.

[UF24ou14]

Oh yeah, the article convinces me. As if all of the other coaches recruiting these guys didn't have a plan. Seriously, Ole Miss needed tackles, and Florida didn't? Freeze may be a great coach, but he is still recruiting to Ole Miss, and Ole Miss has far less to offer academically, socially, or pretty much anything else in comparison to UF, Bama, Georgia, etc. By the way, Ponzi schemers have a plan and are convincing salesmen as well.

[gatordee]

Until there is evidence of this, we should not throw accusations out like this. Some people can just sell. Who knows?? Perhaps Ole Miss kissed Tunsils rear like no other and felt like he would be the prime donna for the Oline there and not so much at the elite programs. But for whatever reasons, we should be good sports about this and give them credit until something comes up. Why are we even concerned about a school like theirs?

[ovillegator]

Oh yeah, the article convinces me. As if all of the other coaches recruiting these guys didn't have a plan. Seriously, Ole Miss needed tackles, and Florida didn't? Freeze may be a great coach, but he is still recruiting to Ole Miss, and Ole Miss has far less to offer academically, socially, or pretty much anything else in comparison to UF, Bama, Georgia, etc. By the way, Ponzi schemers have a plan and are convincing salesmen as well.

Lesser to offer? I think being dumber and still able to go to college and not worry about classes might be considered a plus.

[dadx4]

Proof? The pictures with the $100's opened my eyes.

[AndyGator]

Kind of puts him in a lose lose situation. If he doesn't pull in talent, everyone will claim him a failure. If he does, everyone labels him a cheat.

[PIMking]

Oh yeah, the article convinces me. As if all of the other coaches recruiting these guys didn't have a plan. Seriously, Ole Miss needed tackles, and Florida didn't? Freeze may be a great coach, but he is still recruiting to Ole Miss, and Ole Miss has far less to offer academically, socially, or pretty much anything else in comparison to UF, Bama, Georgia, etc. By the way, Ponzi schemers have a plan and are convincing salesmen as well.

90% of these kids can care less what the school offers academically, hell most of them would probably choose a school based on how easy it would be academically.

[bantab]

90% of these kids can care less what the school offers academically, hell most of them would probably choose a school based on how easy it would be academically.

See also: Clemson University. Also known as University of Clemson by football players who attend the university.

[Mayhem41]

Oh yeah, the article convinces me. As if all of the other coaches recruiting these guys didn't have a plan. Seriously, Ole Miss needed tackles, and Florida didn't? Freeze may be a great coach, but he is still recruiting to Ole Miss, and Ole Miss has far less to offer academically, socially, or pretty much anything else in comparison to UF, Bama, Georgia, etc. By the way, Ponzi schemers have a plan and are convincing salesmen as well.

You don't know what you're talking about.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

The problem with the Rebels' class, is that it really isn't even close to being as good as 'Bama's. It just has a few bigger names. The Rebels will need a lot more than Tunsil, Conner, Treadwell and Nkemdiche to be any more than a pest in the west. Sure, they'll catch a team like A&M or LSU after an emotional game, and every once in a while beat somebody they shouldn't, but they need to do this every year to even compete. They need more bodies across the line of scrimmage, too.

'Bama is the class of the SEC west. Everybody else, right now, is playing for second in that division. They aren't invincible, but whoever beats them is going to need that "perfect storm" to pull off the upset under Saban. Texas A&M caught them after the Tide's most emotional game of the season, with an offense that's really difficult to prepare for with only a week to do so. 'Bama will always be susceptible to a game like that, that's just the reality of being in that division.

Anyway, while Ole Miss might be a cute story on the recruiting trail, they'll need a whole lot more than one top-10 class to be a contender out there.

[The_Graygator]

Just seems kind of strange to me is all, because I get where a few of the other posters are coming from when they talk about how 'Ole Miss can't offer as much as a number of the more premiere schools in the conference can.

Arkansas did this one year several years back with a lot of great players (WR Damien Williams?), and lost a lot of them to transfer afterwards. Remains to be seen if these kids like the very rural, boring atmosphere of Oxford.

OTOH, I've seen some of the more minor SEC teams have a rare, yet very good one year haul like this at 'Ole Miss. It's not like it doesn't happen.

All that said, they aren't going to win an SEC with just this one class along anyway.

They need to get top 10 hauls every year to be that competitive IMO.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Just seems kind of strange to me is all, because I get where a few of the other posters are coming from when they talk about how 'Ole Miss can't offer as much as a number of the more premiere schools in the conference can.

Arkansas did this one year several years back with a lot of great players (WR Damien Williams?), and lost a lot of them to transfer afterwards. Remains to be seen if these kids like the very rural, boring atmosphere of Oxford.

OTOH, I've seen some of the more minor SEC teams have a rare, yet very good one year haul like this at 'Ole Miss. It's not like it doesn't happen.

All that said, they aren't going to win an SEC with just this one class along anyway.

They need to get top 10 hauls every year to be that competitive IMO.

Right. People are focusing on the big names, but the Ole Miss class wasn't nearly as good as 'Bama's. Heck, even LSU brought in better quality across the board than the Rebels did.

Hugh Freeze is going to have to recruit even better than this to make Ole Miss relevant out there. From top to bottom, there are three or four teams from the SEC who got better athletes than they did.

[gatorjlm]

Doh!!!!

shocked this hasn't been farked yet with him catching a stack of bills