boy scouts

[sappanama]

so our president thinks the boy scouts need to admit gays and lesbians, what's up with this. wouldn't lesbians be in the girl scouts? hard to imagine this is a national political imperative.

[exiledgator]

Gays in the boy scouts would not be new. Lesbians, however... :huh:

[exiledgator]

Also, by Lesbians, I assume he means the butch, buzz-cut ones, right - not the sultry hot ones of my dreams?

[rivergator]

1. Obama answered the question about the Boy Scouts because he was asked.
2. The Girl Scouts do not have a ban against homosexuality. So there's really no reason to speak out against a ban that doesn't exist. Actually, in the last couple of years, some conservatives have claimed the Girl Scouts have a radical feminist, lesbian, pagan agenda pushing promiscuity. Or something like that.

[texigator]

so our president thinks the boy scouts need to admit gays and lesbians, what's up with this. wouldn't lesbians be in the girl scouts? hard to imagine this is a national political imperative.



Sadly, it is, as our country is in the grip of extremists who want to shove their "progressive" P.C. agenda down all of our throats. And they're succeeding.

[HALLGATOR]

so our president thinks the boy scouts need to admit gays and lesbians, what's up with this. wouldn't lesbians be in the girl scouts? hard to imagine this is a national political imperative.

It would be helpful if posters from both sides of the aisle, or in between, would provide a link to where these statements are made.

[Spurffelbow833]

Boys and girls need to be boys and girls. They can be gays and straights later. Obama has no more business telling the Boy Scouts what to do than any other man with no sons.

[gatordowneast]

Why would a gay kid want to be a boy scout? It would seem like they would want to be a girl scout and have tea parties, arrange flowers and help their mom's decorate the house.

Obama concentrates on immigration, gays and guns while Rome is burning. What a freaking numbnuts.

[g8orbill]

in my opinion allowing homosexuals to openly be Boy Scout leaders would be the end of the ?Boy scouts-most Christians would opt out for for a Christian based group and a great deal of straight men will not be comfortable with an openly homosexual man leading their boys- it is what it is

[northgagator]

in my opinion allowing homosexuals to openly be Boy Scout leaders would be the end of the ?Boy scouts-most Christians would opt out for for a Christian based group and a great deal of straight men will not be comfortable with an openly homosexual man leading their boys- it is what it is

The KEY word is openly.

Would anyone like it any better if a male Scout Master acted openly as a super stud skirt chaser?

I believe that your sexuality is no ones business and you should keep it that way weather you are gay or straight.

[g8orbill]

won't change the facts north

[northgagator]

won't change the facts north

So if you knew of a Scout Master who for years passed him self off as being straight (in the closet) and you later find out that he is bi or gay you would out him if he does not resign. Why because you said that some straight men would be uncomfortable about him leading the boys.

What would make you and the other straight men feel uncomfortable?
That he would lead the boys in a Gay Pride parade?
That he would promote gay sex over hetro sex?
That he would be making out with a man durning the scout meetings?
First of all the troop committee and the person/organization would have to sign off on it and I doubt that will happen.

You ought to be more afraid of the pedophiles (who are not gay) who have infiltrated the scout ranks as a hetrosexual. These guys have done way more damage to scouting than any gay scout master ever could do.

He is a good example of so called Hetro and his actions with the Boy Scouts.
A popular Colorado Boy Scout leader named Floyd Slusher allegedly had a strategy when it came to molesting boys: He first plied his victims with alcohol, then abused them and threatened to kill anyone who talked.

On one occasion in 1976, according to police, Slusher told a Scout as he undressed the child that "what I'm going to do now, if I get arrested, after I get out of jail, I'll come after you and your family."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-18/business/sns-rt-us-usa-boyscouts-abusebre89h0zf-20121018_1_abuse-cases-boy-scouts-files-show

If I am not mistaken I though the Boy Scouts was set up to teach young me how to lead. To do this the troops are boy led. The scout master is a mentor not the leader.
As far as I know the leading of boys is done at the Cub Scout level.

Can you come up with any true cases where a gay or bi man has harmed or molested a boy while in the Boy Scouts?

Also, how many straight man Scout Leaders have harmed boys with abusive language, physical contact, temper outburst, and bullying? I am sure there are several men who lost their position as scout leaders because to these actions.

[magnafides]

Obama concentrates on immigration, gays and guns while Rome is burning. What a freaking numbnuts.

So what, he should have just ignored the question when asked? I can't imagine the insults you'd be throwing his way had he done that.

[wgbgator]

With the short shorts and the colorful scarfs, I assumed the boy scouts were already super gay.

[rivergator]

So what, he should have just ignored the question when asked? I can't imagine the insults you'd be throwing his way had he done that.

that's the thing. we've got conservatives here acting as though Obama has made this is No. 1 national priority when the reality is that he was asked a question and he answered it.

[gator421]

that's the thing. we've got conservatives here acting as though Obama has made this is No. 1 national priority when the reality is that he was asked a question and he answered it.

Key word. Reality.

[Dreamliner]

What now ? A merit badge for interior decorating ?

[magnafides]

Topic change: this is now a joke thread.

[wgbgator]

Topic change: this is now a joke thread.

Nah, it started off as a joke thread. :joecool:

[sappanama]

that's the thing. we've got conservatives here acting as though Obama has made this is No. 1 national priority when the reality is that he was asked a question and he answered it.

no the point was why is the POTUS of the most powerful country (?) in the world commenting on a adolescent social club at all. I think his answer when asked should have been, this is not a topic that is appropriate for the president, end of discussion. this type of question and social engineering does not need to be done at this level of government, and was a question that should not be asked of any POTUS. bring back some dignity to the office, as well as common sense.

[wgbgator]

no the point was why is the POTUS of the most powerful country (?) in the world commenting on a adolescent social club at all. I think his answer when asked should have been, this is not a topic that is appropriate for the president, end of discussion. this type of question and social engineering does not need to be done at this level of government, and was a question that should not be asked of any POTUS. bring back some dignity to the office, as well as common sense.

So shouldnt your anger be directed at the interviewer?

[sappanama]

So shouldnt your anger be directed at the interviewer?

sure somewhat, the reporter shouldn't demean the office, but america didn't elect the reporter twice, sometimes the POTUS needs to act like a POTUS.

[wgbgator]

sure somewhat, the reporter shouldn't demean the office, but america didn't elect the reporter twice, sometimes the POTUS needs to act like a POTUS.

I doubt it would be possible for him to act like whatever mythical idea you have of the POTUS. All he did was express an opinion about a subject that is in the news when asked by an interviewer in an interview situation. You happen to disagree with the answer, that seems to be your main beef. If he'd just lobbed softballs, you'd probably say it was the compliant media making him look good. Dude can't win.

[gatordowneast]

So what, he should have just ignored the question when asked? I can't imagine the insults you'd be throwing his way had he done that.

I doubt anyone would critisize him for saying "I don't want to get into that" or "The Boy Scout Organization hasn't asked me for my opinion".

Numbnuts is pandering and everyone knows it. And the economy continues the slowest rebound from a recession in the last 70 years...on his watch. Not Bush's fault. His fault. His agenda is bad news for the country. Any gains or good news is inspite of him not because of his policies.

[wgbgator]

I doubt anyone would critisize him for saying "I don't want to get into that" or "The Boy Scout Organization hasn't asked me for my opinion".

Numbnuts is pandering and everyone knows it. And the economy continues the slowest rebound from a recession in the last 70 years...on his watch. Not Bush's fault. His fault. His agenda is bad news for the country. Any gains or good news is inspite of him not because of his policies.

Actually it seems like "pandering" would be dodging the question to talk about more popular stuff like football or puppies, not giving an opinion on a divisive subject.

[rivergator]

I doubt anyone would critisize him for saying "I don't want to get into that" or "The Boy Scout Organization hasn't asked me for my opinion".

Numbnuts is pandering and everyone knows it. And the economy continues the slowest rebound from a recession in the last 70 years...on his watch. Not Bush's fault. His fault. His agenda is bad news for the country. Any gains or good news is inspite of him not because of his policies.

He could have said that. But the man has an opinion on it and he spoke it very clearly:

"My attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does, in every institution and walk of life," , "The Scouts are a great institution that are promoting young people and exposing them to opportunities and leadership that will serve people for the rest of their lives. And I think nobody should be barred from that."

I don't know if the majority of Americans agree with him or not. But that's his opinion and he gave it. I don't see why he should refrain just because some people aren't going to like it.
Aren't you guys the epitome of political correctness, not wanting to hear anything that offends you?

[gatordowneast]

He could have said that. But the man has an opinion on it and he spoke it very clearly:



I don't know if the majority of Americans agree with him or not. But that's his opinion and he gave it. I don't see why he should refrain just because some people aren't going to like it.
Aren't you guys the epitome of political correctness, not wanting to hear anything that offends you?

Political Correctness would be better addressed by those of you on the far left as it gets crammed down our throats daily. IMHO- Numbnuts should use every question asked as an opportunity to talk about creating "job" opportunities to grow our economy. Instead, he focuses on divisive issues. He's an idiot. Is that politically correct enough for you?

And stop and think about it...would you allow a 16 year old hopped up on hormones, pimple faced boy to join the girl scouts and share a tent with young girls? Well then why in the hell would you want to put a 16 year old boy (who is sexually attracted to boys) in a tent with a bunch of boys? Why would you do that? Makes zero sense. But that is numbnuts and his coolaid drinking followers.

[northgagator]

Why would a gay kid want to be a boy scout? It would seem like they would want to be a girl scout and have tea parties, arrange flowers and help their mom's decorate the house..

Are you serious?
Do you think sexuality has something to do with camping and hiking?
Do youth ink that girls who like hiking and camping are lesbians?