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orlandogator
01-28-2013, 12:41 PM
missing #3 to Indiana by a single point. Kansas #1, Michigan #2.

madgator
01-28-2013, 12:42 PM
I'm shocked that the voters actually got something right putting Kansas ahead of Michigan

Gatuar
01-28-2013, 12:45 PM
Fine with that

MadduxFanII
01-28-2013, 12:45 PM
I'd be interested to see us against Kansas. McLemore is a tough match-up for us...well, for anyone really, and Withey is freakish down low. But Young had his best games last year against Davis and Sullinger, so he likes to rise to the occasion. Would be a fun battle to watch.

Gatorgal04
01-28-2013, 12:50 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rankings/coaches

HayGator
01-28-2013, 01:45 PM
And we got a 1st place vote. (AP)

orlandogator
01-28-2013, 01:48 PM
AP has us 4 but Michigan 1 not Kansas. Kansas #2, Indiana #3.

4 in both polls is as good as we could hope I would think. Just have to keep winning.

ArtVandelay
01-28-2013, 02:20 PM
I'm shocked that the voters actually got something right putting Kansas ahead of Michigan

Why do you think that Kansas belongs ahead of Michigan? I think Michigan is the best team in the country right now. I think we are a close 2nd.

No idea why Indiana is ahead of us. That should take care of itself soon when Michigan beats them.

Great to see the Gators at #4. I think we are well positioned for a #1 seed if we tcb...

madgator
01-28-2013, 02:32 PM
Why do you think that Kansas belongs ahead of Michigan? I think Michigan is the best team in the country right now. I think we are a close 2nd.

No idea why Indiana is ahead of us. That should take care of itself soon when Michigan beats them.

Great to see the Gators at #4. I think we are well positioned for a #1 seed if we tcb...


Just an opinion really. I think Michigan is going to get exposed for their lack of size and experience eventually. I also don't think that they are a really "tough" team either. Teams that rely on freshman can have let downs in the big games.

I think Kansas not only matches their athleticism and versatility but can beat them up down low.

I actually have Michigan as my 4th ranked right now. But I also think that Duke and Syracuse are better than Michigan. Just can't legitimately rank them as such due to their records.

just looking at their remaining schedule, I see potentially as many as 4-5 losses for them out there.

tilly
01-28-2013, 03:00 PM
#4 is great...as long as it translates into a #1 seed in March.

tommyuf21
01-28-2013, 03:37 PM
#4 is great, now the challenge is staying there.....

Ahab
01-28-2013, 03:54 PM
That's our highest ranking since when?

MdlGator
01-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Just as long as we don't hit NO. 1 immediately before the UK game.

MJGator8104
01-28-2013, 04:09 PM
That's our highest ranking since when?

Apparently, since '07.

UFSECKINGS
01-28-2013, 04:14 PM
#1 Michigan travels to Bloomington on Saturday night...

rserina
01-28-2013, 04:24 PM
If we beat Ole Miss, then we would have a legitimate claim to be either one or two in the nation. Of course, we are also hitting the meat of our schedule and can expect to lose a couple of games down the stretch unless everything goes our way. This league has such terrible officiating on the road that you literally need to beat everyone by 15+ every game to erase the margin for error.

orlandogator
01-28-2013, 04:31 PM
4 out of the next 5 at home though. Still the schedule looks to be tightening up in that they are playing every 3 days or so.

regurgigator
01-28-2013, 04:39 PM
Just as long as we don't hit NO. 1 immediately before the UK game.

Good point! That never ends well does it? :joecool:

ArtVandelay
01-28-2013, 04:47 PM
Just an opinion really. I think Michigan is going to get exposed for their lack of size and experience eventually. I also don't think that they are a really "tough" team either. Teams that rely on freshman can have let downs in the big games.

I think Kansas not only matches their athleticism and versatility but can beat them up down low.

I actually have Michigan as my 4th ranked right now. But I also think that Duke and Syracuse are better than Michigan. Just can't legitimately rank them as such due to their records.

just looking at their remaining schedule, I see potentially as many as 4-5 losses for them out there.

Mine is just as opinion too and I respectfully disagree. Burke and Hardaway have a decent amount of experience. They are both NBA players next year, plus Robinson.

Kansas relies on a Freshman.

I think Duke and Syracuse are looking at an early March exit.

If I could pick one team to be on the other side of the bracket, it would be Michigan. I think last year was the time they underachieved.

Getting back to the Gators...would you want to be ranked #1 in the country or do you think they might play better if they weren't?

g8rboy
01-28-2013, 04:57 PM
Mine is just as opinion too and I respectfully disagree. Burke and Hardaway have a decent amount of experience. They are both NBA players next year, plus Robinson.



Getting back to the Gators...would you want to be ranked #1 in the country or do you think they might play better if they weren't?

always interesting how a team handles it. this team seems to be grounded enough to play with that target.

themistocles
01-28-2013, 04:57 PM
Only one ranking matters, the one following the NCAA championships. Prior to that, all this stuff is largely speculative.

ThePlayer
01-28-2013, 05:00 PM
Only one ranking matters, the one following the NCAA championships. Prior to that, all this stuff is largely speculative.

As long as we win the SEC championship and make the Final Four...I will cherish this year.
Even more help is on the way next year.

rserina
01-28-2013, 05:15 PM
Not sure what to make of Michigan. Beilein has a great offensive system, but I am not entirely sold on him in a playoff environment. They don't have a presence offensively or defensively in then post and seem to rely over much on Burke to penetrate and create opportunities for others. I like teams with better inside-out balance in the tournament. Again, though, that is Beilein's scheme and it produces points in bunches.

GatorLurker
01-28-2013, 05:57 PM
Michigan is a REALLY good team on offense. They are like 2007 Gators in terms of being really good on O. Points come thick and heavy from everywhere.

On D they are just OK.

(Now I might get some $h1t from other posters)

The 2007 Gators were good on D, but really didn't hang their hat on that to be a top 5 team on D that year. Probably Top 20, but with their O that was more than enough.

And I think the 2006 team played better D.

Continuing along this line I think this current Gator squad plays MUCH better D than either of the Championship teams.

(Part where I will get $h1t from most other posters is over. Some will give me it regardless.)

This year Michigan is more like a Top 40 team on D with a #1 O. Kind of like the 2003 Gator team with a better O.

Certainly Michigan is a dangerous team. If they get hot they can win it all.

ufgator4ever
01-28-2013, 07:28 PM
Interesting to see the younger horford(michigan) and kenny kadji(miami) doing well, two big men florida didn't pursue or discarded.
The program has come along way from three years ago.

rserina
01-28-2013, 07:51 PM
The 2007 Gators were good on D, but really didn't hang their hat on that to be a top 5 team on D that year. Probably Top 20, but with their O that was more than enough.

And I think the 2006 team played better D.

Continuing along this line I think this current Gator squad plays MUCH better D than either of the Championship teams.
Sort of. The 2005-06 team was much better getting afters shots, but it struggled defending the arc and got bit by it during conference play.

The 2006-07 team was much better defending the arc, but we squeezed shooters on the perimeter more often and forced opponents into the lane. The big difference to my mind is that we dominated people so much in 06-07 that there lots of late points scored in blowout games.

I do agree that this team is better. Maybe not "much" better given that we don't have individual defenders as good as those we had on the frontcourt then, but our ball defense, help defense, and press are all better.

GatorLurker
01-28-2013, 09:37 PM
Our perimeter defense this year is so unbelievably good that the small drop-off in interior defense is not that important.

It is a joy to watch.

madgator
01-28-2013, 11:35 PM
Mine is just as opinion too and I respectfully disagree. Burke and Hardaway have a decent amount of experience. They are both NBA players next year, plus Robinson.

Kansas relies on a Freshman.

I think Duke and Syracuse are looking at an early March exit.

If I could pick one team to be on the other side of the bracket, it would be Michigan. I think last year was the time they underachieved.

Getting back to the Gators...would you want to be ranked #1 in the country or do you think they might play better if they weren't?


Kansas starts 4 seniors. That's huge come tourney time.


and I fear Duke more than Michigan....I think we would KILL michigan. Their matchups against Indiana are going to reveal a good bit about them. Didn't shock me at all when they lost at Ohio St. A tough team with good perimeter defenders.

and we're better than Ohio St. WAY better.

don't get caught up in the flash of Michigan. I can see them being the #2 seed that makes an early exit.

too young and too dependant on outside shooting. Not a ton of depth, no real experience, lacking in size, and I'm not impressed with their team concept.

depending on their matchups in the tourney, I'm looking to bounce them early.



As for us? I think we can beat anyone out there.

co_gator89
01-29-2013, 12:19 AM
Only one ranking matters, the one following the NCAA championships. Prior to that, all this stuff is largely speculative.

This. The polls are largely irrelevant in basketball. As long as we dont lose more than a game or two between now and the SEC tourney and win the SEC regular season title and the tournament I will be happy and we will be in prime position for a 1 seed.

dadx4
01-29-2013, 05:50 AM
#4 is great...as long as it translates into a #1 seed in March.

Exactly

fox
01-29-2013, 06:02 AM
Only one ranking matters, the one following the NCAA championships. Prior to that, all this stuff is largely speculative.

Matters not to a team but a lot to a program. Better than unnoticed, unloved, irrelevant, outrecruited, and depressed.

gatorbogey
01-29-2013, 07:48 AM
now the hype and attention and analysis comes. it has been coming - good stuff. but can we overcome the hype and not get too far ahead of ourselves w/ visions of grandeur and not get over-confident? that's going to be another part of the challenge.

i sure do like the mindset, though. it's defensively driven. i think they really take pride in denying the opponents points, shots, the ball, getting it up the court, all that stuff!

orlandogator
01-29-2013, 09:02 AM
Michigan is a REALLY good team on offense. They are like 2007 Gators in terms of being really good on O. Points come thick and heavy from everywhere.

On D they are just OK.

(Now I might get some $h1t from other posters)

The 2007 Gators were good on D, but really didn't hang their hat on that to be a top 5 team on D that year. Probably Top 20, but with their O that was more than enough.

And I think the 2006 team played better D.

Continuing along this line I think this current Gator squad plays MUCH better D than either of the Championship teams.

(Part where I will get $h1t from most other posters is over. Some will give me it regardless.)

This year Michigan is more like a Top 40 team on D with a #1 O. Kind of like the 2003 Gator team with a better O.

Certainly Michigan is a dangerous team. If they get hot they can win it all.

In football, IMO, good defense beats good offense. I think the same in basketball really. Think Detroit Pistons in their championship years. A good offense looks very pedestrian when they played the Pistons. I don't care what kind of a shooter you are, if you get the ball stolen from you or a hand is in your face, your taken out of synch.

When Florida plays hard, their defense is really swarming and I don't think you will see Michigan score in bunches against us. Only if we have an off shooting night, could I see us losing.