Sandy victim blasts Obama!

[PSGator66]

I am sure that the left will defend Obama on this but I think this guy makes a great point.....

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/26/Sandy-Victim-Blasts-Obama-Shame-on-You-You-Went-Away-to-Hawaii-While-We-Were-Freezing

[The_Graygator]

Notice how the LMSM has practically ignored that devastation unless they can get a pro-Obama promo out of it? Of course, we heard about Bush and Katrina every, single day for what? A year?

These Hurricane Sandy people have been tossed to the curb once Obama got re-elected. He doesn't give a squat about them, never did actually, and demonstrated that when he was in Hawaii on his 20 day Christmas vacation while these people were freezing without power and gas throughout a blizzard.

What's sad is that most of these voted that dictator-wannabe back into office, and now act surprised that they're still suffering. What's happened up there is exactly what I predicted would happen if they voted Obama back into office. They got what they voted for.

[g8trjax]

Not nearly enough hapless minorities to make headlines.

[surfn1080]

How many are needed to bring the news trucks?

[gator1986]

Shouldn't of built their houses out of sticks

[Tebowism0823]

Not a shock at all. What exactly has Obama done that he said he'd do?

[gatorman_07732]

Shouldn't of built their houses out of sticks

Staten Island is not out in the sticks

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Staten Island is not out in the sticks

:huh:

[gatorman_07732]

:huh:

What don't you understand and perhaps I can help you?

[orangeblueorangeblue]

What don't you understand and perhaps I can help you?

He didn't say it was in the sticks.

[gatorman_07732]

He didn't say it was in the sticks.

Really, what exactly did his post imply then? Isn't he responding with regard to the OP and the guy that was pissed off about emergency relief?

[Gatoragman]

That damn Bush, is leaving all those folks in NOLA to fend for themselves because he doesn't like their skin color. OOPS, wrong thread.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

No, it looks like he's mocking the construction quality of the houses.

[gatorman_07732]

No, it looks like he's mocking the construction quality of the houses.

Yeah your right, I misread it. Still a dumb post nonetheless, the guys house is completely gutted.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Just because someone incurs a tragedy does not preclude them from making erroneous assumptions, misdirecting blame or drawing causation.

Blaming Obama for Sandy is about as dumb as blaming Bush for Katrina.

[gatorman_07732]

Just because someone incurs a tragedy does not preclude them from making erroneous assumptions, misdirecting blame or drawing causation.

Blaming Obama for Sandy is about as dumb as blaming Bush for Katrina.

I don't believe he was blaming Obama for Katrina, but if the guy is out in the cold now after Obama did his photo ops, he has a right to call him out.

[GatorAbe7]

Shouldn't of built their houses out of sticks

LOL, what an ignorant comment. :embarrased:

[rivergator]

I don't believe he was blaming Obama for Katrina, but if the guy is out in the cold now after Obama did his photo ops, he has a right to call him out.

So what do you think: Obama should have personally made sure that everyone affected by Sandy had his house replaced?

[Gatorrick22]

That damn Bush, is leaving all those folks in NOLA to fend for themselves because he doesn't like their skin color. OOPS, wrong thread.

.........please.

[CalSFGator]

These entitlement mentality righties will never stop until the government does everything for them.

[Gatorrick22]

These entitlement mentality righties will never stop until the government does everything for them.

All we want is an honest POTUS. Not one that lies all the time.

[CalSFGator]

All we want is an honest POTUS. Not one that lies all the time.

Yep, it's all want, want, want. Fix my house. Tax those well-off liberals in the blue states so that you can buy more smart bombs to keep the shadey foreigners away from me. Build walls to keep Mexicans out, I am scared of them. Pass more and more laws protecting my notion of marriage, and making English a formal language. I want secret service men to protect my children at school too. And on and on. If they aren't whining, they have nothing much to say.

[Gatorrick22]

Yep, it's all want, want, want. Fix my house. Tax those well-off liberals in the blue states so that you can buy more smart bombs to keep the shadey foreigners away from me. Build walls to keep Mexicans out, I am scared of them. Pass more and more laws protecting my notion of marriage, and making English a formal language. I want secret service men to protect my children at school too. And on and on. If they aren't whining, they have nothing much to say.

Sounds like the leftists after Katrina.

[malligator]

If there's one thing you can count on from CalSFGator it's consistency. Something the media is lacking. Apparently they now realize the president has no direct control over rebuilding efforts. A fact they didn't understand after Katrina.

[CalSFGator]

Sounds like the leftists after Katrina.

Right. So you agree with me about this guy.

[The_Graygator]

How many are needed to bring the news trucks?

All you got to have is just one who is singing Obama's praises and the media will, en masse', fly them all over the country to their studios to interview them without having to chance panning the still-devastated areas they've been claiming Obama has already fixed.

[The_Graygator]

Not a shock at all. What exactly has Obama done that he said he'd do?

Well, according to liberal talking heads and LMSM, this entire disaster has been "addressed" and all of these people have been housed, sheltered, fed, and taken care of by "Obama's great skills as CIC". :roll:

I don't even know if I've seen anything else by the LMSM covering this devastation since the election (except for a few reports on the fund-raising concert).

These people served their role... they voted the socialist back in and now they're nothing more than useless fodder to him and the progressive'socialist machine currently destroying our country.

[RealGatorFan]

Maybe now Bush can get an apology from all those that bashed him over Katrina. Obama and FEMA had what, 8 years to prepare for Sandy and they haven't learned anything.

[gator996]

If there's one thing you can count on from CalSFGator it's consistency. Something the media is lacking. Apparently they now realize the president has no direct control over rebuilding efforts. A fact they didn't understand after Katrina.


Well one fact that is "understood" is that the republican leadership took 2 months to even bring a vote on any type of aid.

The POTUS and his administration don't control funding...that's a congressional power.

If you don't fund the relief effort, how can there be a relief effort?





http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/293235_The_US_Senate_Finally_Passes_$

US Senate Finally Passes $50.5 Billion Hurricane Sandy Aid Bill - 36 Senators Vote Against It

"HR 152, the $50.5 billion Sandy reconstruction aid package finally passed the US Senate.

It took 91 days to get to this point, which is absolutely incomprehensible and unforgivable.

62-36.

We should be thankful that this has finally passed Congress, but it should never have taken three months to do so. That’s months more than any other major natural disaster to strike the nation in decades. It’s months more than the time it took to agree upon Katrina aid. The disaster response by this particular Congress is absolutely shameful.

That is, until you see that there are still dozens of Senators who voted against the aid package - not because they oppose the aid, but because they’d rather burnish their so called conservative credentials than do the job of governance.

36 Senators voted against this aid.

UPDATE:
After Katrina, Congress overwhelmingly approved a comparable sized reconstruction package within two weeks of the hurricane coming ashore. That package was $51.8 billion, and it was virtually unopposed (it passed 410-11 in the House and 97-0 in the Senate) and brought total aid for reconstruction up to $62.3 billion to that point. Not 90 days. Less than two weeks.
Among those who had no problem with the amount of money involved or the need to get aid flowing for Katrina, but then opposed Sandy aid:

Jeff Sessions; John McCain; Saxby Chambliss; Johnny Isakson; Mike Crapo; Chuck Grassley; Pat Roberts; Mitch McConnell; Richard Burr; James Inhofe; Tom Coburn; Lindsey Graham; John Thune; John Cornyn; Orrin Hatch; and Michael Enzi.

That’s 16 Senators who were present to vote for the 2005 legislation, but opposed the 2013 Sandy aid."


And Obama is to blame?
:laugh:

[Tebowism0823]

Yep, it's all want, want, want. Fix my house. Tax those well-off liberals in the blue states so that you can buy more smart bombs to keep the shadey foreigners away from me. Build walls to keep Mexicans out, I am scared of them. Pass more and more laws protecting my notion of marriage, and making English a formal language. I want secret service men to protect my children at school too. And on and on. If they aren't whining, they have nothing much to say.

You realize, every thing you just cried about, you and your other lost brothers/sisters do the same just the opposite. However, I realize its much cooler to point the finger in the other direction so please, hypocrite away.

[Tebowism0823]

Maybe now Bush can get an apology from all those that bashed him over Katrina. Obama and FEMA had what, 8 years to prepare for Sandy and they haven't learned anything.

They'll blame that on Bush too.

[gator996]

Who needs Bush?

Boehner, Cantor & Co. are doing a fine job screwing things up....

[surfn1080]

So obama has done nothing wrong here too? Man I wish I had that type of immunity.

Listen obama went for a photo op, said govt will be ready to fix the place up, than has not mentioned a word about it since. I don't think or I hope anyhow that these people want obama to be there personally. What they want is for him to live up to his own words.

Somehow I am amazed the same thing happened at Katrina but Obama gets a pass here. I guess govt can't handle large disasters. By the way I told champ this back when sandy first hit.

[rivergator]

First of all, the response to the two storms has been different.

But for me the difference is summed up in two images. One is the nightmare at the New Orleans convention center, where thousands were stranded for days amid inconceivable squalor, an outrage that all of America watched live on TV, but to which top officials seemed oblivious. The other is the scene in flooded Hoboken, with the National Guard moving in the day after the storm struck to deliver food and water and rescue stranded residents.

Also remember that Clinton appointed a emergency management pro to the lead FEMA. Bush, on the other hand:

appointed his campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, to head the agency, and Mr. Allbaugh immediately signaled his intention both to devolve disaster relief to the state and local level and to downgrade the whole effort, declaring, “Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level.”

link (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/opinion/krugman-sandy-versus-katrina.html?_r=0)

When Allbaugh left (to use his connections to make money off the Iraq war), Bush appointed Michael Brown, a longtime friend of Allbaugh, also with zero emergency management experience. If you remember, Brown didn't even know the New Orleans convention was housing thousands of people for a couple of days. Anyone watching the news knew that.
Obama appointed a 20-year emergency management veteran.

Who do you think took the job and the duties of FEMA seriously?

[gator996]

So obama has done nothing wrong here too? Man I wish I had that type of immunity.

Listen obama went for a photo op, said govt will be ready to fix the place up, than has not mentioned a word about it since. I don't think or I hope anyhow that these people want obama to be there personally. What they want is for him to live up to his own words.

Somehow I am amazed the same thing happened at Katrina but Obama gets a pass here. I guess govt can't handle large disasters. By the way I told champ this back when sandy first hit.

In one instance the operation was funded, so the results can be measured as the managment of the operation...Katrina.

The other was not funded for 3 months, hence no real operation to-date.
And someone should be surprised with the lack of help received by those in need?

Of course those people are pissed...and they now know exactly who has been holding up the help...the GOP.

Talk about what someone should be "amazed" by... :rolleyes: :lie:

[The_Graygator]

Maybe now Bush can get an apology from all those that bashed him over Katrina. Obama and FEMA had what, 8 years to prepare for Sandy and they haven't learned anything.

What's even worse, is Obama's incompetent handling of the Gulf Oil Spill too, yet no one in the LMSM held him accountable.

And what was our then-new CIC doing to address this problem? he was suing Arizona!

[Swampmaster]

why is it now the job of the federal government (taxpayers) to pay 100% of the damages from large storms around the US (examples: Katrina, Sandy). It appears to be just another politically motivated bailout opportunity, with most of the billions going to insiders for contracts and deals.

[g8trjax]

The press may have gone easier on Bush if only he hadn't nuked those levees.

[malligator]

First of all, the response to the two storms has been different.



Also remember that Clinton appointed a emergency management pro to the lead FEMA. Bush, on the other hand:



link (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/opinion/krugman-sandy-versus-katrina.html?_r=0)

When Allbaugh left (to use his connections to make money off the Iraq war), Bush appointed Michael Brown, a longtime friend of Allbaugh, also with zero emergency management experience. If you remember, Brown didn't even know the New Orleans convention was housing thousands of people for a couple of days. Anyone watching the news knew that.
Obama appointed a 20-year emergency management veteran.

Who do you think took the job and the duties of FEMA seriously?

Your observations about the images are exactly my point. Katrina devestated millions of people all along the gulf coast. My friend lost everything, but since he wasn't from the 9th Ward or stuck in the Superdome he was low priority for aid.

All we saw in the MSM was Bush bashing and Kanye West saying Bush doesn't care about black people and Spike Lee releasing a "documentary" about the government blowing up the levees.

Obama shows up for a photo op to win the election and he's the hero of NYC...along with his buddy Christie. The news can't fill time talking about his lack of leadership so they turn it into "Superstorm Sandy" and blame global warming. Talk about propaganda.

[rivergator]

Your observations about the images are exactly my point. Katrina devestated millions of people all along the gulf coast. My friend lost everything, but since he wasn't from the 9th Ward or stuck in the Superdome he was low priority for aid.

All we saw in the MSM was Bush bashing and Kanye West saying Bush doesn't care about black people and Spike Lee releasing a "documentary" about the government blowing up the levees.

Obama shows up for a photo op to win the election and he's the hero of NYC...along with his buddy Christie. The news can't fill time talking about his lack of leadership so they turn it into "Superstorm Sandy" and blame global warming. Talk about propaganda.

First, look at the FEMA directors the two presidents appointed:
The resume for Craig Fugate who Obama appointed:

Born at Jacksonville Naval Air Station, Fugate trained in high school as a volunteer firefighter, emergency paramedic and rose to the rank of Lieutenant with Alachua County Fire Rescue.
Emergency Manager for Alachua County (1987-1997)
Bureau Chief for Preparedness and Response for Florida Division of Emergency Management (1997-2001)
Director of Florida Division of Emergency Management (2001-2009)).
Outside of government he also the founder of disastersrus.org, a website with disaster planning advice and links to disaster-related resources

Michael Brown, who Bush appointed:
Ran for Congress in 1988 and lost.
Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association, (IAHA), from 1989-2001, resigned amid lawsuits.
2001 - hired by longtime friend Joe Allbaugh as counsel for FEMA
2002 - became deputy director
2003 - When Allbaugh left, became director of FEMA.

Emails during Katrina:
On the day Katrina struck, Brown wrote "Can I quit now? Can I go home?" He later quipped to a friend on September 2 that he could not meet her because he was "trapped [as FEMA head] ... please rescue me."; and at another time "If you'll look at my lovely FEMA attire, you'll really vomit. I am a fashion god."[44] In another e-mail, Brown's press secretary, Sharon Worthy, advised him to roll up his sleeves "to look more hard-working... Even the president rolled his sleeves to just below the elbow."[43] An e-mail offering critical medical equipment went unanswered for four day

So let me ask again: The appointments indicated which president took the position of FEMA director seriously?
Or is it just the media's fault?>

[gatordee]

Hurricane Katrina was a totally different animal. I do not understand how anyone can compare the two. I just do not understand why Obama does not give out his number so people can just call him when they feel he has done them wrong. It is so easy to point the finger and place blame. There is not a boss out there that all his employees will agree that he runs the company perfect. There will never be a president that gets the approval of every American out there and it is a shame that so many people out there are scrutinizing and sitting at the edge of their seats just waiting and hoping the president screws up so they can say "I told you so". I am a firm believer that no matter who is the president, we should all be rooting for him and support him in every way they can. I was never a Bush fan and to be honest I could not stand the guy. However, I would be the first to speak up in his behalf when being bad mouthed. As far as I was concerned, the people had spoken and is my duty to help support him and any decision he made. There is NO ONE out there that has the answers to EVERYTHING. Maybe being in the military is why I respect the chain of command the way I do. However, I do know going against the grain is never a good idea.

[malligator]

Brown may have sucked, but at least he's not been indicted for corruption directly related to Katrina like NOLA's hero Nagin. And, although the response is better, FEMA isn't the white knight of NYC like people want to believe. Mismanagement and beaurocracy are still leaving people without utilities. I said in my original post that the President can't directly affect much change in aid efforts. I don't care that he went on Xmas vacation. If he never went on vacation because Americans were struggling...well...he'd never go on vacation at all. The media tells the story and shapes the general view of the efforts and the story being told is vastly different between Katrina and Sandy even though the response isn't vastlly different.

[rivergator]

Brown may have sucked, but at least he's not been indicted for corruption directly related to Katrina like NOLA's hero Nagin. And, although the response is better, FEMA isn't the white knight of NYC like people want to believe. Mismanagement and beaurocracy are still leaving people without utilities. I said in my original post that the President can't directly affect much change in aid efforts. I don't care that he went on Xmas vacation. If he never went on vacation because Americans were struggling...well...he'd never go on vacation at all. The media tells the story and shapes the general view of the efforts and the story being told is vastly different between Katrina and Sandy even though the response isn't vastlly different.

The subject was the perception of Bush and Obama in terms of FEMA's response to the storms.
You didn't answer the basic question, but we both know the answer: Obama took the position of FEMA director seriously and appointed a qualified emergency management veteran. Bush handed the job to a friend who not only had no experience, but appeared to have nothing but disdain for the duties.
Deflecting to Nagin doesn't change the fact that the two presidents had a very different approach.

[malligator]

The subject was the perception of Bush and Obama in terms of FEMA's response to the storms.
You didn't answer the basic question, but we both know the answer: Obama took the position of FEMA director seriously and appointed a qualified emergency management veteran. Bush handed the job to a friend who not only had no experience, but appeared to have nothing but disdain for the duties.
Deflecting to Nagin doesn't change the fact that the two presidents had a very different approach.

Why are you always incorrectly stating the subject of these discussions? The video in the OP said nothing about FEMA. At all. I know you want to deflect discussion away from Obama...just like the press...but it's a secondary point. The response to both storms has been lackluster and you know why? Because it's a hard job. However, the coverage has been totally imbalanced. That's my point. Discuss FEMA all you want, but the reality and the perception don't match and that's what I'm discussing.

[rivergator]

Why are you always incorrectly stating the subject of these discussions? The video in the OP said nothing about FEMA. At all. I know you want to deflect discussion away from Obama...just like the press...but it's a secondary point. The response to both storms has been lackluster and you know why? Because it's a hard job. However, the coverage has been totally imbalanced. That's my point. Discuss FEMA all you want, but the reality and the perception don't match and that's what I'm discussing.

You're serious? You think a discussion about Obama's response to Sandy has nothing to do with FEMA?

[malligator]

You're serious? You think a discussion about Obama's response to Sandy has nothing to do with FEMA?

Wow. You're impossible.

I responded to the FIRST point in your post. THE FIRST. You went back to the second. I tried to tell you I was talking about your first point. You said the subject was the second. I said it wasn't. Then you ask me if I think it has nothing to do with FEMA.

The only point I'll make about FEMA still goes to my first point. It's not doing the greatest job. It's definitely learned some lessons from Katrina, but it is far from perfect and nowhere near as good as you'd think if the current director was so much more qualified. However, you'll not read that in the media...which was MY point all along.