View Full Version : Sarah Palin, a main cog of the "stupid party", dismissed.
chompalot
01-28-2013, 06:23 AM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/sarah-palin-and-the-end-of-an-era-20130126?page=1
The former Alaska governor's split from Fox News highlights the fade of the Tea Party as well as her own diminishing role.
Once the face of an energetic and politically potent Tea Party movement, Palin is leaving Fox at a time when polls show the Tea Party at an all-time low in both membership and favorability. Her departure also coincides with calls by some leading Republicans for their party to stop saying things that erode the GOP brand and turn off voters in droves.
But Palin, with her flamboyant rhetoric, has stoked her own disproportionate share of controversies. This is the woman who, after all, coined the term “death panels” to describe discussions between patients and physicians about end-of-life treatment (killing a bipartisan proposal for Medicare to reimburse doctors for having those talks); who complained of a “blood libel” against her by “journalists and pundits” after the Tucson shooting rampage that injured Gabrielle Giffords (the phrase historically relates to the charge that Jews murder children to use their blood in religious rituals); and who last fall accused Obama of “shuck and jive” in his statements on the killings of U.S. diplomatic personnel in Benghazi (a racist term dating from slavery days).
Good riddance. But I still don't believe there is much of a chance of the Republican Party suddenly becoming the smart party.
g8orbill
01-28-2013, 06:34 AM
no that moniker belongs to the arrogant elitists dems
fredsanford
01-28-2013, 06:38 AM
Looks like Fox is casting off the dumbest of the dumb or the most corrupt: Palin, Morris and Rove.
northgagator
01-28-2013, 08:47 AM
Looks like Fox is casting off the dumbest of the dumb or the most corrupt: Palin, Morris and Rove.
Lol
Do these names sound familiar?
Charlie Rangle Tax Cheat
Cynthia McKennet. Moon Bat
Anthony Weiner. A wannabe Porn Star
Jessie Jackson Jr. Adulterer & Briber
Sheila Jackson Lee. Moon Bat
Eliot Spitzer Adulterer
John Edwards. Adulterer
Kwame Kilpatrick. Criminal
James Traficant. Bribery & Racketeering
William Jefferson. Bribery
Patrick Kennedy. Drug Addict
Corrine Brown. Moon Bat
Neither party has a monopoly on corruptness or stupidity Both parties have their share of suck puppies. http://politicalgraveyard.com/trouble/index.html
HALLGATOR
01-28-2013, 08:51 AM
Neither party has the market cornered on dumb politicians.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Neither party has the market cornered on dumb politicians.
absolutely true. but few have been highlighted center stage the way Palin was. She running for VP of one of our two major political parties with no more knowledge of the issues that the person standing behind you in at Publix.
The_Graygator
01-28-2013, 09:57 AM
no that moniker belongs to the arrogant elitists dems
Socialist dems, you mean.
Dems hate any woman that would dare think for herself and be an actual individual.
fredsanford
01-28-2013, 10:07 AM
Lol
Do these names sound familiar?
Charlie Rangle Tax Cheat
Cynthia McKennet. Moon Bat
Anthony Weiner. A wannabe Porn Star
Jessie Jackson Jr. Adulterer & Briber
Sheila Jackson Lee. Moon Bat
Eliot Spitzer Adulterer
John Edwards. Adulterer
Kwame Kilpatrick. Criminal
James Traficant. Bribery & Racketeering
William Jefferson. Bribery
Patrick Kennedy. Drug Addict
Corrine Brown. Moon Bat
Neither party has a monopoly on corruptness or stupidity Both parties have their share of suck puppies. http://politicalgraveyard.com/trouble/index.html
The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs.
brainstorm
01-28-2013, 10:14 AM
I think the market decided the fate of Sarah Palin.
newkastle
01-28-2013, 10:42 AM
The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs.
Embarrassed by Bill Clinton? He's an adulterer and lied under oath.
fredsanford
01-28-2013, 10:52 AM
Embarrassed by Bill Clinton? He's an adulterer and lied under oath.
He never had to run again. Why does Louisiana keep electing Vitter?
northgagator
01-28-2013, 10:55 AM
The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs.
Really?
Why is Rangel still in office and Jessie Jr is getting a pass for his transgressions?
T3goalie
01-28-2013, 11:21 AM
Thrift, balancing budgets and family are dumb to the brilliant sophists in DC.
fredsanford
01-28-2013, 12:06 PM
Really?
Why is Rangel still in office and Jessie Jr is getting a pass for his transgressions?
Because their constituents vote for them. Same reason a doorknob like McConnell can stay in office.
There's a big diff between that and being held up as a shining star like the GOP does with their wackos.
Lawdog88
01-28-2013, 12:26 PM
I fail to see how "shuck and jive" necessarily must have a racial connotation.
I do see that SP is not the sharpest rocket surgeon in the drawer.
G8trGr8t
01-28-2013, 12:32 PM
absolutely true. but few have been highlighted center stage the way Palin was. She running for VP of one of our two major political parties with no more knowledge of the issues that the person standing behind you in at Publix.
And you probably believe Biden is much better..fwiw I don't like Palin and she is not representative of the tea party
tegator80
01-28-2013, 12:37 PM
How about trying on this one: anyone who HAS a party and allows silly people in high position to remain is either really stupid or can't understand that they are enabling this behavior. How about stop worrying about the "other" party's incompetents and focus on cleaning up yours...or leave and never return and help start up another one.
But that requires discerning thought and we are just too busy for that kind of effort.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 12:41 PM
I fail to see how "shuck and jive" necessarily must have a racial connotation.
I do see that SP is not the sharpest rocket surgeon in the drawer.
I didn't think 'shuck and jive' was racial when I heard it.
I don't know how intelligent Palin is. She clearly knew little or nothing about most issues. And she made little effort to learn anything. I do think her nomination made the Republicans look pretty foolish, especially when some claimed that she was the future of the party.
There were certainly plenty of conservatives gushing praise for her on this board and elsewhere.
As time when on and Fox kept pushing her out there as some sort of spokeswoman, she became no better informed. She just spewed the kind of angry, immature insults and misinformation that tends to fill up message boards and talk radio.
gator10010
01-28-2013, 12:43 PM
absolutely true. but few have been highlighted center stage the way Palin was. She running for VP of one of our two major political parties with no more knowledge of the issues that the person standing behind you in at Publix.
What did you expect Palin to say to the McCain campaign? No?
Running for VP was not a dumb decision by Sarah Palin....maybe John McCain but not Sarah Palin.
OaktownGator
01-28-2013, 12:57 PM
What did you expect Palin to say to the McCain campaign? No?
Running for VP was not a dumb decision by Sarah Palin....maybe John McCain but not Sarah Palin.
This is true.
Once selected by McCain, she could have tried to educate herself on issues, though. I doubt she is too dumb to learn, and McCain campaign staff indicated she just didn't care to even try.
She likes her sound bites though... a big key to politics in the instant gratification age. Just not the only key, as she is finding out.
SP doesn't seem to have much interest in considering a bigger picture than whether her sound bites will immediately resonate with the "choir" she's preaching to.
Of course as others have noted, there's no shortage of faulty politicians on either side of the aisle.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 01:04 PM
What did you expect Palin to say to the McCain campaign? No?
Running for VP was not a dumb decision by Sarah Palin....maybe John McCain but not Sarah Palin.
No, I would say the primary fault is not hers. She obviously made no effort to become informed enough to speak intelligently about much at all.
But the primary fault lies with the McCain campaign for putting her there in the first place. I can't blame Fox for putting her on TV. It's just looking for ratings, not intelligent insight.
exiledgator
01-28-2013, 01:16 PM
How about trying on this one: anyone who HAS a party and allows silly people in high position to remain is either really stupid or can't understand that they are enabling this behavior. How about stop worrying about the "other" party's incompetents and focus on cleaning up yours...or leave and never return and help start up another one.
But that requires discerning thought and we are just too busy for that kind of effort.
Great point, but judging by the amount of time spent here, there are many that aren't too busy for discerning thought. Must be something else.
rajinGator
01-28-2013, 02:42 PM
Coming out of glass houses. There is no shortage on dopey Dems.
fredsanford
01-28-2013, 02:47 PM
Coming out of glass houses. There is no shortage on dopey Dems.
Again, not the issue.
The issue is how the GOP seems to consider their fools to be their leaders.
No Dem is clamoring for Corinne Brown to lead the party.
secgator
01-28-2013, 03:01 PM
To this day...Clinton is revered and damn near worshipped by the cult group typically known as Democrats. Even after the definition of "is"...the cigar...the blue dress..not to mention all the other women he had....questionable relationships with.
No, the Dems don't hold their tainted heroes in high regard. They friggin worship them.
northgagator
01-28-2013, 03:19 PM
Because their constituents vote for them. Same reason a doorknob like McConnell can stay in office. There's a big diff between that and being held up as a shining star like the GOP does with their wackos. Fred, Fred, Fred where did we go wrong.., Zager and Evens Back to the topic Pelosi endorses Rangel WASHINGTON — So much for “draining the swamp” of corruption in Congress. Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who delivered the censure to Rep. Charles Rangel (D-Harlem) for 11 ethics violations two years ago, endorsed his re-election to a 22nd term yesterday. http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/pelosi_endorsesrangel_utu71ELwGiFy3lkZuG6ZXP Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, who said she spoke with Mr. Jackson and his father Wednesday afternoon, praised the congressman for his service and “his eloquent advocacy for his constituents’ views and interests.” “As he works to address his health, our thoughts and prayers are with him, his wife, Sandi, his children as well as his parents,” said Mrs. Pelosi in a prepared statement. “We are grateful to him and his family for their long-standing record of public service to our country.” http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/21/jesse-jackson-jr-resigns-congress/?page=all Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? Maryland AFL-CIO leader calls Che Guevara, Cynthia McKinney heroes In a video posted at The Blaze Wednesday, Fred Mason, President of the AFL-CIO in Maryland and the District of Columbia, called former Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) and Communist guerilla Che Guevara heroes. "Without a person like Cynthia McKinney, there would not have been a Barack Obama," he said while speaking at Baltimore's Union Baptist Church in late August. Big Labor shining up the McKennet star http://www.examiner.com/article/maryland-afl-cio-leader-calls-che-guevara-cynthia-mckinney-heroes.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 03:38 PM
Fred, Fred, Fred where did we go wrong.., Zager and Evens Back to the topic http://m.nypost.com/p/news/national/pelosi_endorsesrangel_utu71ELwGiFy3lkZuG6ZXP Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/21/jesse-jackson-jr-resigns-congress/?page=all Are you telling me that Pelosi is a Rangel constituent? Or that Pelosi was not holding up Rangle as a shining star? Which one is it? http://www.examiner.com/article/maryland-afl-cio-leader-calls-che-guevara-cynthia-mckinney-heroes.
I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.
secgator
01-28-2013, 03:47 PM
I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.
river, while Palin may not be the smartest woman to walk the earth or even remotely qualified to be VP--she has nowhere near the baggage of someone like Rangel. Even you know that much. Being unqualified is far cry different than being corrupt.
northgagator
01-28-2013, 03:53 PM
I think endorsing is a bit different than placing on the Pres-VP ticket.
Wrong example Fred. You got the cart before the horse.
Hardly anyone knew Sarah Palin before McCain picked her for the VP spot. She never had a chance to earn the high\false praise that was beeped on her.
As for the Pelosi endorsing Rangle, Rangle had quite a few years of questionable activity before that endorsement.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Wrong example Fred. You got the cart before the horse.
Hardly anyone knew Sarah Palin before McCain picked her for the VP spot. She never had a chance to earn the high\false praise that was beeped on her.
As for the Pelosi endorsing Rangle, Rangle had quite a few years of questionable activity before that endorsement.
As I said, my point was about taking someone as ill-equipped as Palin and putting her at the forefront of the party. That obviously didn't happen with Rangel. So what are you trying to compare?
JerseyGator01
01-28-2013, 04:22 PM
How many first-term governors would have done well in that situation who had never resided in DC? McCain, like he showed with the debates, showed poor planning by not picking her sooner to give her more prep time.
She's not dumber nor smarter, unless you believe in sound bytes, than the average politician in DC. I love how the CNN headline labels losing a job as a contributor as a "fall." Media hype at its finest.
She's way too much of an independent thinker to be a puppet in America's extremely corrupt media. She's one of the few politicians I know who has long had enemies in both parties because of stands she has taken.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 04:23 PM
How many first-term governors would have done well in that situation who had never resided in DC? McCain, like he showed with the debates, showed poor planning by not picking her sooner to give her more prep time.
She's not dumber nor smarter, unless you believe in sound bytes, than the average politician in DC. I love how the CNN headline labels losing a job as a contributor as a "fall." Media hype at its finest.
She's way too much of an independent thinker to be a puppet in America's extremely corrupt media. She's one of the few politicians I know who has long had enemies in both parties because of stands she has taken.
what stands are those?
JerseyGator01
01-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Her pro-life stand for one, which is 90% of why she is hated. She also ticked off the then governor (same family as current senator) Murkowski.
From her Wiki page regarding her work prior to being Governor:
Governor Murkowski offered other jobs to Palin, and in February 2003, she accepted an appointment to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees Alaska's oil and gas fields for safety and efficiency.[67] While she had little background in the area, she said she wanted to learn more about the oil industry, and was named chair of the commission and ethics supervisor.[1][67][69] By November 2003 she was filing non-public ethics complaints with the state attorney general and the governor against a fellow commission member, Randy Ruedrich, a former petroleum engineer and at the time the chair of the state Republican Party.[67] He was forced to resign in November 2003.[67] Palin resigned in January 2004 and put her protests against Ruedrich's "lack of ethics" into the public arena[19][67] by filing a public complaint against Ruedrich,[70] who was then fined $12,000. She also joined with Democratic legislator Eric Croft[71] in complaining that Gregg Renkes, then the attorney general of Alaska,[72] had a financial conflict of interest in negotiating a coal exporting trade agreement.[73][74] Renkes also resigned his post.[19][69]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
I don't know of one politician in Jersey on ANY level who had a career more than a few months who went against her party establishment like she did. Another reason why the puppets in the media hate her. She didn't play the game.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 05:02 PM
I don't know that being anti-abortion makes her particularly unique in the Republican Party.
orangeblueorangeblue
01-28-2013, 05:09 PM
Oh yeah I thought this was the thing that people on the left don't do to females on the other side of the aisle.
DeanMeadGator
01-28-2013, 05:09 PM
Looks like Fox is casting off the dumbest of the dumb or the most corrupt: Palin, Morris and Rove.
Kindly specify the corruption that the 3 engaged and/or conspired to engage in. Please identify those who are dumb so we can determine whether the 3 are the dumbest of that group.
Once againg, I am amazed how much time and energy people spend talking about Fox News despite their intense dislike of it.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 05:13 PM
Oh yeah I thought this was the thing that people on the left don't do to females on the other side of the aisle.
I assume you're talking about the Hillary sexiest thread where I started that particular train of thought with:
Are there any prominent Democratic women who aren't attacked for their looks by Republicans? Nancy Pelosi is about to turn 72 and conservatives are constantly attacking her looks.
It's what they do.
Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=254552&highlight=women&page=2#ixzz2JJL1SK9P
Is that what this thread is, nothing but criticizing Palin's looks?
JerseyGator01
01-28-2013, 05:26 PM
Palin had a downs syndrome child that made her talk equal her walk ... yet again.
JerseyGator01
01-28-2013, 05:29 PM
Can anyone else name one politician who has the head of her state's party and an attorney general or similar high ranking state official resign because of their work. Plus she defeated Murkowski in the gov primary and a former Dem gov in the general.
Has anyone ticked off so many elites in such a short period of time? I can't think of anyone in our so-called age of hyper-partisanship.
DeanMeadGator
01-28-2013, 05:32 PM
No, I would say the primary fault is not hers. She obviously made no effort to become informed enough to speak intelligently about much at all.
But the primary fault lies with the McCain campaign for putting her there in the first place. I can't blame Fox for putting her on TV. It's just looking for ratings, not intelligent insight.
Television networks all look for ratings. Do advertisers prefer to run their advertisements on shows that draw small audiences or large audiencies?
Please advise what network provides intelligent insight and discourse. What about Honey Boo Boo?
For that matter, what politicians engage in intellingent discourse and possess intelligent insight? Is that not more of a problem than a television network and the programs it airs?
What television network has a $16 trillion debt? Is there any intelligent discourse among politicians about reduction of the suffocating and ever increasing deficit? Is that more or less important than what a network broadcasts?
northgagator
01-28-2013, 06:03 PM
As I said, my point was about taking someone as ill-equipped as Palin and putting her at the forefront of the party. That obviously didn't happen with Rangel. So what are you trying to compare?
Once again we get the never ending duck, dodge, parse, and shifting position Rivergator show!
As I said, my point was about taking someone as ill-equipped as Palin and putting her at the forefront of the party
This was not the point you were making.
This statement is damage control to draw attention away from your real point.
That point was
The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs.
I responded
Really?
Why is Rangel still in office and Jessie Jr is getting a pass for his transgressions?
Then you responded
Because their constituents vote for them. Same reason a doorknob like McConnell can stay in office.
There's a big diff between that and being held up as a shining star like the GOP does with their wackos.
In the interest of saving GC some band width I am omitting a couple of postings. They really do not change the validity of this post. Which brings us back full circle to last statement
As I said, my point was about taking someone as ill-equipped as Palin and putting her at the forefront of the party. That obviously didn't happen with Rangel. So what are you trying to compare?
We were never talking about Palin being ill-equipped (which is a compliment). We were talking about how "The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs".
"Theirs" as in reference to party embarrassments.
I gave examples of failed politicians that the Democrat party supported and in some cases endorsed. To be fare I provided a link to a list of failed Dem and Repub politicians.
When confront with facts that prove you wrong did you admit your mistake? No you did not. You do as you usually do; deny, deflect, move the goal post. You would look less foolish now had you dropped off this thread like you did on that coal mine reopening thread
oragator1
01-28-2013, 06:13 PM
"My retard criminal is better than your retard criminal!"
And we wonder why the country is where it is.
Gatorrick22
01-28-2013, 06:20 PM
Lol
Do these names sound familiar?
Charlie Rangle Tax Cheat
Cynthia McKennet. Moon Bat
Anthony Weiner. A wannabe Porn Star
Jessie Jackson Jr. Adulterer & Briber
Sheila Jackson Lee. Moon Bat
Eliot Spitzer Adulterer
John Edwards. Adulterer
Kwame Kilpatrick. Criminal
James Traficant. Bribery & Racketeering
William Jefferson. Bribery
Patrick Kennedy. Drug Addict
Corrine Brown. Moon Bat
Neither party has a monopoly on corruptness or stupidity Both parties have their share of suck puppies. http://politicalgraveyard.com/trouble/index.html
Yep, the Leftists have straight-up criminals in their party, yet they have the nerve to talk about a former Governor that never played a part in congress?
They're obsessed with someone that's not even in government.
orangeblueorangeblue
01-28-2013, 06:37 PM
Is that what this thread is, nothing but criticizing Palin's looks?
Trade "ugly" for "stupid" and ... well, yes.
myamiG8R
01-28-2013, 06:46 PM
I do see that SP is not the sharpest rocket surgeon in the drawer.
love this law, but perhaps a further revision to "not the sharpest rocket surgeon on the christmas tree" mixes in yet another related metaphor...
rivergator
01-28-2013, 06:49 PM
Trade "ugly" for "stupid" and ... well, yes.
I have no question about that. Except when I said that Democrats don't consistently criticize the looks of every Republican woman the way Republicans do with Democratic women, you can't say "Sure they do, they just don't talk about looks as much ..."
rivergator
01-28-2013, 06:51 PM
Once again we get the never ending duck, dodge, parse, and shifting position Rivergator show!
This was not the point you were making.
This statement is damage control to draw attention away from your real point.
That point was
I responded
Then you responded
In the interest of saving GC some band width I am omitting a couple of postings. They really do not change the validity of this post. Which brings us back full circle to last statement
We were never talking about Palin being ill-equipped (which is a compliment). We were talking about how "The Dems are embarrassed by theirs. The GOP promotes and lionizes theirs".
"Theirs" as in reference to party embarrassments.
I gave examples of failed politicians that the Democrat party supported and in some cases endorsed. To be fare I provided a link to a list of failed Dem and Repub politicians.
When confront with facts that prove you wrong did you admit your mistake? No you did not. You do as you usually do; deny, deflect, move the goal post. You would look less foolish now had you dropped off this thread like you did on that coal mine reopening thread
Let me get this straight. You claim I'm changing the subject because Fred made other points?
See, if you're trying to claim I'm denying and deflecting, you actually have to show me denying and deflecting. Showing Fred saying something else doesn't actually count.
You know, this really isn't that hard.
orangeblueorangeblue
01-28-2013, 07:20 PM
I have no question about that. Except when I said that Democrats don't consistently criticize the looks of every Republican woman the way Republicans do with Democratic women, you can't say "Sure they do, they just don't talk about looks as much ..."
Oh, I think they do both.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 07:42 PM
Oh, I think they do both.
examples of Democrats calling them stupid is not evidence that they call them ugly, which is what you claimed. By the way, of the former, I am more than guilty.
orangeblueorangeblue
01-28-2013, 07:44 PM
That's not exactly what I was saying. That topic diverged/devolved into who was "better," "classier," whatever. Of course, there's literally no difference.
RealDeal
01-28-2013, 08:31 PM
liberals covered up crimes of jesse jr and rangel for years---the crooked rangel got a minor slap on the wrist from congress and was never prosecuted after using his inside muscle with the justice dept--sweet!
RealGatorFan
01-28-2013, 10:01 PM
Again, not the issue.
The issue is how the GOP seems to consider their fools to be their leaders.
No Dem is clamoring for Corinne Brown to lead the party.
I know you libs can't be serious? I could make a living just writing a book on Biden's own sayings. I really hope he runs in 2016 so I can retire by the words he utters. Vol II has just started. I might even give Pelosi and Reid their own chapters.
wargunfan
01-28-2013, 10:15 PM
Any Democrat who can chide the GOP for nominating Sarah Palin and forget about John Edwards, their 2004 VP nominee is a world class hypocrite. Sarah Palin was and is an upstanding person who has been a faithful wife and mother, a corruption busting governor and a pro life champion. John Edwards on the other hand was and is a lying, cheating, tax evading, adulterous scumbag who abandoned a loving wife who was dying of cancer. And you people want to throw stones at Sarah Palin??? You have no standard of decency or fairness and should hang your heads in shame.
rivergator
01-28-2013, 10:45 PM
Any Democrat who can chide the GOP for nominating Sarah Palin and forget about John Edwards, their 2004 VP nominee is a world class hypocrite. Sarah Palin was and is an upstanding person who has been a faithful wife and mother, a corruption busting governor and a pro life champion. John Edwards on the other hand was and is a lying, cheating, tax evading, adulterous scumbag who abandoned a loving wife who was dying of cancer. And you people want to throw stones at Sarah Palin??? You have no standard of decency or fairness and should hang your heads in shame.
was that known at the time?
wargunfan
01-28-2013, 11:14 PM
was that known at the time?
The point is that compared to John Edwards and William Jefferson Clinton Sarah Palin is a paragon of virtue. Based on relative moral standing in 2013, no fair minded Democrat would look at the characters which have been stars in the Democrat constellation and with a clear conscience cast slurs at Sarah Palin. Do you seriously compare Palin's being uninformed on foreign policy matters to Edward's adultery and the abandonment of his dying wife?
Simply put, in 2008 we had no idea of Palin's gravitas in foreign affairs. We now know that she was not schooled in that area.
In 2004 we did not know that John Edwards was a moral reprobate. We now know that he was a scoundrel of the first order.
Democrats who live in glass houses occupied by the likes of John Edwards and still throw stones at an upright person like Sarah Palin are hypocrites and should be ashamed of themselves.
Juggernautz
01-29-2013, 02:51 AM
love this law, but perhaps a further revision to "not the sharpest rocket surgeon on the christmas tree" mixes in yet another related metaphor...
This applies to MOST politicians as well.
northgagator
01-29-2013, 07:58 AM
In 2004 we did not know that John Edwards was a moral reprobate. We now know that he was a scoundrel of the first order.
Wrong!. Wrong!Wrong!. WrongWrong!. Wrong!
We knew that he was a lawyer.
This he met the criteria of a moral reprobate, and a scoundrel of the first order.
rivergator
01-29-2013, 08:10 AM
The point is that compared to John Edwards and William Jefferson Clinton Sarah Palin is a paragon of virtue. Based on relative moral standing in 2013, no fair minded Democrat would look at the characters which have been stars in the Democrat constellation and with a clear conscience cast slurs at Sarah Palin. Do you seriously compare Palin's being uninformed on foreign policy matters to Edward's adultery and the abandonment of his dying wife?
Simply put, in 2008 we had no idea of Palin's gravitas in foreign affairs. We now know that she was not schooled in that area.
In 2004 we did not know that John Edwards was a moral reprobate. We now know that he was a scoundrel of the first order.
Democrats who live in glass houses occupied by the likes of John Edwards and still throw stones at an upright person like Sarah Palin are hypocrites and should be ashamed of themselves.
yes, as far as we know, Palin has been much more loyal spouse than Clinton or Edwards.
But there are other qualifications for the highest offices in this country. And in 2008, the McCain campaign should have known ignorant Palin was of the issues simply by talking to her.
Through the past four years in the national eye, Palin has seemed to remain uninformed, instead relying on cliches and insults.
A lot of Republicans do seem to admit that about her now, but for years, and particularly in 2008 and 2009, all her shortcomings were simply blamed on the media.
northgagator
01-29-2013, 09:25 AM
River, based in your last post it appears that Palin has more integrity than Biden.
If that us the case who would you trust with the finances of our country, Biden or Palin?
rivergator
01-29-2013, 09:30 AM
River, based in your last post it appears that Palin has more integrity than Biden.
I don't know that either one cheated on their spouse. Do you?
If that us the case who would you trust with the finances of our country, Biden or Palin?
Biden.
OaktownGator
01-29-2013, 12:45 PM
There's losers, dimwits, liars, adulterers, hypocrites and criminals in both parties. And the majority of politicians are compromised by the process even if they don't fit into those categories.
The my party is better than yours argument is kinda silly.
My .02.
FlyingGatorII
01-29-2013, 04:30 PM
Any Democrat who can chide the GOP for nominating Sarah Palin and forget about John Edwards, their 2004 VP nominee is a world class hypocrite. Sarah Palin was and is an upstanding person who has been a faithful wife and mother, a corruption busting governor and a pro life champion. John Edwards on the other hand was and is a lying, cheating, tax evading, adulterous scumbag who abandoned a loving wife who was dying of cancer. And you people want to throw stones at Sarah Palin??? You have no standard of decency or fairness and should hang your heads in shame.
If you haven't figured it out by now, hypocrite is just an accepted part of any Democrat's makeup. Look at what Al Gore just did, what Obama has done the last 4 years, and how the Democrat controlled media continue to act when it comes to anyone who is not a Republican's wrong doing. Hypocrites one and all which means those that support them are hypocrites as well and this board is full of them..
rivergator
01-29-2013, 04:36 PM
If you haven't figured it out by now, hypocrite is just an accepted part of any Democrat's makeup. Look at what Al Gore just did, what Obama has done the last 4 years, and how the Democrat controlled media continue to act when it comes to anyone who is not a Republican's wrong doing. Hypocrites one and all which means those that support them are hypocrites as well and this board is full of them..
If you really think that it's hypocritical to point out that Palin had little knowledge of the issues because Clinton screwed around ... you don't really know what the word means.
fredsanford
01-29-2013, 04:44 PM
If you really think that it's hypocritical to point out that Palin had little knowledge of the issues because Clinton screwed around ... you don't really know what the word means.
All part of the never-ending "false equivalence" tactic.
gymgator
01-29-2013, 05:06 PM
Dick Chaney was an a-hole and maybe a Sith Lord who channels the Dark Side of the Force, but he was more than qualified to be VP and is a extremely intelligent man.
Palin is without question, the most unqualified, unintelligent, uninformed candidate that has ever been nominated by a major party and she was a HUGE reason that McCain lost. McCain, who I wanted to vote for in 2000, when the final candidates were Bush/McCain & Gore/Bradley. I wasn't sold on Obama in the primary, but McCain was no where near the man he was in 2000 and picking Palin made it a no brainier for me.
John Edwards was an informed, capable, accomplish Senator and Attorney, who was also a scumbag adultery.
Do you understand the difference yet?
JerseyGator01
01-29-2013, 05:12 PM
Perhaps you've never heard of Joe Biden. His performance at the debate was an American embarrassment. What good is having a brain if you don't use it? Law degress are highly overrated. Most can't even do basic math these days. Don't get me started on ethical issues.
Palin was hated because she lived by her convictions more than most politicians.
CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!
FlyingGatorII
01-29-2013, 05:20 PM
If you really think that it's hypocritical to point out that Palin had little knowledge of the issues because Clinton screwed around ... you don't really know what the word means.
I know it's tough to follow threads but if you are going to respond to my post you should really try to..:wave:
JerseyGator01
01-29-2013, 09:03 PM
CNN is not renewing Carville's contract and the spin is because he doesn't live in the right place (close to the action). But Palin, who I believe lives in CA, probably doesn't live close to the action either, but in her case she's left because it supposedly indicates her downfall. Gotta love spin 24-7 in Lawyerland.
chemgator
01-29-2013, 10:17 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/sarah-palin-and-the-end-of-an-era-20130126?page=1
Good riddance. But I still don't believe there is much of a chance of the Republican Party suddenly becoming the smart party.
It already is the smart party. Dimwitted democrats are just too stupid to realize it.
wargunfan
01-29-2013, 10:27 PM
Wrong!. Wrong!Wrong!. WrongWrong!. Wrong!
We knew that he was a lawyer.
This he met the criteria of a moral reprobate, and a scoundrel of the first order.
I stand corrected.
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