No call at the end of UT-Bama

[gulfgator]

Man, refs swallowed the whistle on that one. Seemed like an obvious call to me.

[gatorbogey]

looked to be an easy call to make.

[GatorsGators]

That was a terrible no-call. SEC officiating is pathetic.

[gatordavisl]

They missed a goal tend late, too. Amazing the preferential treatment UT gets at home.

[GatorPlanet]

I don't know, it looked like the Bama guy was leaning in and flailing and acting, more acting than basketball. I'm glad the ref didn't call that one.

[jagervol01]

They missed a goal tend late, too. Amazing the preferential treatment UT gets at home.
If you watch a lot of SEC bball than you know that preferential treatment for the home team is the standard.

[GatorsGators]

I don't know, it looked like the Bama guy was leaning in and flailing and acting, more acting than basketball. I'm glad the ref didn't call that one.Disagree. The Bama guy may have embellished the contact a little bit, but Stokes clearly jumped into the shooter. That's a foul 100% of the time.

[gatordavisl]

They swallowed the whistle. Stokes bought the fake and was jumping toward Lacey. That play gets called every time if it's not the final second on the road. Refs were afraid to end a game at the line for a road team. They swallowed it.

[gulfgator]

I don't know, it looked like the Bama guy was leaning in and flailing and acting, more acting than basketball. I'm glad the ref didn't call that one.

Sure he was leaning in, but Stokes wasn't set and was clearly moving toward him. Lacy then jumped right into him, like any offensive player would have done, no?

[Gator_Joe]

I commented on this in another thread. I thought there should have certainly been a whistle right there. Refs in the Uk LSU game are not doing much better so far. Making up for bad calls with additional bad calls.

[gatorkarl]

I disagree, I think the Bama player tried to jump in and draw the foul which I would never call if I was a Ref, I do agree that most of the time a foul would have been called in today's game but I hate that jumping in call that the offensive player get most of the time. By the way, I also hate the palming, carring, traveling , ten seconds in the lane, and the strongest guy wins in today's game. Can you tell by my post that I'm grey haired, pot-bellied and remember when the girls played half court offense and defense.

[swampgas44]

Pomeroy had a predicted score of Tenn 59, Ala 58. Amazing! I love that website.

[1bobcat]

That was a terrible no-call. NCAA officiating is pathetic.

Fixed that for you.

[GatorPlanet]

Sure he was leaning in, but Stokes wasn't set and was clearly moving toward him. Lacy then jumped right into him, like any offensive player would have done, no?

Moving toward someone does not constitute a foul. What you describe could be a foul on Lacy. Instead of trying to get his shot off, what I saw was Lacy just trying to instigate contact and get a whistle. If you try that and fail, then you have indeed failed.

Now admittedly, I've only seen one camera angle of the play.

[GatorPlanet]

I disagree, I think the Bama player tried to jump in and draw the foul which I would never call if I was a Ref, I do agree that most of the time a foul would have been called in today's game but I hate that jumping in call that the offensive player get most of the time. .

Thank you, karl. That's the way it looked to me, too.

[GatorPlanet]

Anyway, Bama losing is good for the Gators' SEC race.

Also, keep an eye on UT. They were a preseason favorite in the SEC, but stunk it up early. They appear to have turned a corner in the last week or two.

[regurgigator]

I disagree, I think the Bama player tried to jump in and draw the foul which I would never call if I was a Ref, I do agree that most of the time a foul would have been called in today's game but I hate that jumping in call that the offensive player get most of the time.

I didn't see the play in question, but I agree with your stance on offensive players jumping into defenders to get foul calls :sick:


I will say that from watching mostly our games, it seems the refs in general are not falling for that so much this season.

[gatordavisl]

Anyway, Bama losing is good for the Gators' SEC race.

Also, keep an eye on UT. They were a preseason favorite in the SEC, but stunk it up early. They appear to have turned a corner in the last week or two. I'm curious. Did you watch the game? UT looks awful and Bama was no different. They will be better when Maymon comes back, but they lack discipline out loud. Their athleticism will win some games they shouldn't and I think our game at UT is one of the toughest games remaining on the schedule. W/o home court crap calls, though, Gators beat that that team on the road every time.

[gatordavisl]

Moving toward someone does not constitute a foul. Falling into them during the act of shooting after being faked out of your shoes does.

[GatorPlanet]

I'm curious. Did you watch the game? .

No.

But Bama is a pretty good team. Not great, but pretty good. If UT beat them, then UT must have something. The Vols played a very good Ole Miss team to the last minute on the road this week.

[jagervol01]

Falling into them during the act of shooting after being faked out of your shoes does.
The Bama player initiated the limited amount of contact that was even there and wasn't really trying to make a shot. He just wanted the foul call which isn't something you can always count on in that situation. On a neutral court that call could go either way. It definitely was not as clear cut as some posts are suggesting.

[gatorbogey]

i too used to hate when an offensive player would jump into the defender while shooting to get the call. always thought it was bogus when the defender was vertical and motionless. that should be on the offense since the offensive player does initiate, or at least a no call.

this was a case of the vols defender jumping and colliding w/ the offensive player, he was vertical however - and the bama player that leapt into the vols player too to ensure a clear collision.

i remember a gator defender in a key game not getting called for the foul for something similar, and a heck of a more violent collision - was that in a big ncaa game? was it hodge? but, here, the ref again swallowed the whistle. had that play occurred 2 minutes earlier, it would have been whistled.

[jcp]

I only saw the replay once so I may be wrong but for me that was a good no call.

[GatorsGators]

The Bama player initiated the limited amount of contact that was even there and wasn't really trying to make a shot. He just wanted the foul call which isn't something you can always count on in that situation. On a neutral court that call could go either way. It definitely was not as clear cut as some posts are suggesting.Lacey did initiate the contact, but only because Stokes jumped on top of him because he was so badly faked out. What else is the shooter supposed to do?

Had Stokes not been faked out; had he gone straight up with the shooter, and the shooter had been the one to jump into Stokes, then it would have been the correct call. But that's not what happened whatsoever. This isn't a judgement call; it's a cut-and-dry foul. There was certainly enough contact to warrant a foul call 10 times out of 10. But the ref swallowed his whistle.

[GatorsGators]

i too used to hate when an offensive player would jump into the defender while shooting to get the call. always thought it was bogus when the defender was vertical and motionless. that should be on the offense since the offensive player does initiate, or at least a no call.

this was a case of the vols defender jumping and colliding w/ the offensive player, he was vertical however - and the bama player that leapt into the vols player too to ensure a clear collision.

i remember a gator defender in a key game not getting called for the foul for something similar, and a heck of a more violent collision - was that in a big ncaa game? was it hodge? but, here, the ref again swallowed the whistle. had that play occurred 2 minutes earlier, it would have been whistled.Wait, did I watch the same game as you? :tongue:

Stokes was far from vertical.

[gatordavisl]

On a neutral court that call could go either way. Take off the orange glasses. This is just wrong. It's a foul every time except in that particular circumstance (on the road, at UT, :01 on the clock).

[gatordavisl]

No.

But Bama is a pretty good team. Not great, but pretty good. If UT beat them, then UT must have something. The Vols played a very good Ole Miss team to the last minute on the road this week. Thanks for your honest answer. If the Gators play their game, they CRUSH this Vols team every time. We have a good team. They do not.

[gatordavisl]

bogey - Stokes was not vertical.

[BEH]

Man, refs swallowed the whistle on that one. Seemed like an obvious call to me.It was not a foul.

[GatorPlanet]

It was not a foul.

Hmm...the Kat fan and the Vol fan are agreeing with me. I may have to change my position on this one.

[gatordavisl]

Hmm...the Kat fan and the Vol fan are agreeing with me. I may have to change my position on this one. Well . . . duh! :wave:

[tommyuf21]

In any other circumstance, that is usually called. However, with :01 on the clock, the ref is usually going to swallow his whistle.

You could see Grant's reaction that he knows that as well as anyone.

What should be discussed more is Bama's poor execution with :11 to get a two point shot to win and the fact that they waited to long to initiate.

[ApexNC]

Sure looked like a foul to me