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grayg8rstevo

05-18-2013, 07:42 AM

Saw the movie. See in 3d..good visuals.
Observations...in a classic turn of events...
TOM CRUISE and KELLY MCGILLIS in TOP GUN ..ole Tom was such a terrific lover, KELLY felt obligated to admit she is gay. Scintillating love scenes...uh, no.

Now, on STAR TREK we have Spock and Uhura. Ole Zoe does her best but , sadly SPOCK has to admit he is invulnerable to her charms..and that he is gay.
Acting at it's finest.:whoa:

The use of the OMEGA 3 machine at the end to ambush KHAN was pure genius.
Interesting that ONE episode in the original STAR TREK spawned a movie and ...another movie . :roll:
Seems HOLLYWOOD just likes to recycle old storylines...Thanks for black holes....

We now know the real reason for black holes..they are there to save the writers. In the first movie , blowing up VULCAN and GIVING THE WRITERS carte Blanche to write anything they want was a big green light.
Freedom from having an original thought as well.
This time around we bring back KHAN. Great.
Notice the tribble in medical bay late in the film ? I did.
Here is a SPOILER ALERT for Star Trek III...
A GIANT PYRAMIDAL SHAPED OBJECT is home to the GROG, a race which assimilates all other races, uses prostheses like crazy and needs to use sunscreen.
They are coming to assimilate all gay cast members on THE ENTERPRISE. Looks like this will end the series for certain.lol:yes:

Gatorrick22

05-20-2013, 01:55 AM

My girlfriend and I just sew it in 3-D... Wow that was killer cool. It wasn't I-Max, but good none the less. My next movie adventure will be Iron Man 3 in I-Max.

grayg8rstevo

05-20-2013, 07:52 AM

IMHO..big disappointment on blockbuster scale
IRONMAN :huh:

The_Graygator

05-20-2013, 10:09 AM

The first Star Trek movie looked good and then it sucked. Not going to bother going to the theater for this one or even buying the DVD.

fredsanford

05-20-2013, 11:36 AM

I didn't like the first one much myself. This is better.

Give it a try when it hits cable.

grayg8rstevo

05-20-2013, 11:46 AM

Fred..it is better .

johngun

05-20-2013, 11:51 AM

I loved both moves

Potzer01

05-20-2013, 12:16 PM

I also liked this one better then the first.

Potzer01

05-20-2013, 12:28 PM

It is an even numbered star trek after all.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 01:40 PM

The first Star Trek movie looked good and then it sucked. Not going to bother going to the theater for this one or even buying the DVD.

you will like this one I promise.

Gatorrick22

05-20-2013, 02:20 PM

I loved both moves

Me too.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 02:31 PM

Me too. The kid that played Kirk in the car was great too. Have you ever seen Quinto and Pine in interviews together? Hilarious too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1RJ4a37S7k&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Gatorrick22

05-20-2013, 03:06 PM

Me too. The kid that played Kirk in the car was great too. Have you ever seen Quinto and Pine in interviews together? Hilarious too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1RJ4a37S7k&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Good stuff Princess, thanks for the video links.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 03:16 PM

Not a problem, I have been watching their interviews cracking up. You can tell they are good friends.

Gatorrick22

05-20-2013, 05:37 PM

Not a problem, I have been watching their interviews cracking up. You can tell they are good friends.

Yes, you can tell they're good friends. I like their on screen chemistry too.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 06:52 PM

Yes, their onscreen chemistry is also very touching as can be said in the into darkness film in one scene that I think makes the movie.

The_Graygator

05-20-2013, 08:10 PM

you will like this one I promise.

The first one was just all over the place IMO, got a little too silly at times, but my main problem is that the only premise Abrams could write a script around was time travel?

That's kind of like making another Superman movie with Lex Luther as the villain.

Really, it was a disappointing movie.

I might go see this one because you suggested it Princess, but honestly, I'm a real strong script/acting driven kind of movie-goer. If it's just mostly action-based, I'll walk away disappointed again.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes you go to see a movie for nothing but action, but that's what I'm expecting when I go in, just some fun, crazy mayhem, but overall, I like a movie with extremely strong, well-written characters who carry a movie more than the action and fancy sets.

That's what makes Batman Begins so good IMO.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 08:58 PM

Into Darkness has action, but there is some real emotion in this one, I was crying. Though it could never top Batman Begins if you are comparing it to that.

fredsanford

05-20-2013, 10:09 PM

The first one was just all over the place IMO, got a little too silly at times, but my main problem is that the only premise Abrams could write a script around was time travel?

That's kind of like making another Superman movie with Lex Luther as the villain.

Really, it was a disappointing movie.

I might go see this one because you suggested it Princess, but honestly, I'm a real strong script/acting driven kind of movie-goer. If it's just mostly action-based, I'll walk away disappointed again.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes you go to see a movie for nothing but action, but that's what I'm expecting when I go in, just some fun, crazy mayhem, but overall, I like a movie with extremely strong, well-written characters who carry a movie more than the action and fancy sets.

That's what makes Batman Begins so good IMO.

This one is better on all fronts and I was on plot hole patrol due to the hundreds of them in the previous effort. I had quibbles with this one, but nothing major.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 10:10 PM

some small things, but all movies have that

fredsanford

05-20-2013, 11:00 PM

some small things, but all movies have that

The first one had big ones from beginning to end.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 11:03 PM

The first movie is what got me liking Star Trek to begin with. I guess I am the only one who really liked the first one.

RepubliGator84

05-20-2013, 11:10 PM

I've seem all the original series episodes and movies and I appreciated the writers trying to appease those of us attached to the original characters in this new movie especially.

(I still take issue with new Spock's over-emotionality among a few other things but its an alternative plot line after all).

Potzer01

05-20-2013, 11:11 PM

Well, neat for the record again I say, its an even numbered star trek, so its good.

Its a pattern with star trek. This one doubly so because its a star trek 2: the wrath of khan remake..

Try deep space nine. Maybe you'll like it.

GatorPrincess8

05-20-2013, 11:23 PM

Potzer, the spoiler thread was the other one, you just gave away a major plot point.

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 09:27 AM

The first movie is what got me liking Star Trek to begin with. I guess I am the only one who really liked the first one.

Lots of people did. I appreciated the acting and effects, but the story makes zero sense.

HungaryGator

05-21-2013, 09:39 AM

I liked it. I appreciate the efforts they have made to stay true to the characters for the most part (like Kirk being a complete horndog). :)

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 02:57 PM

Lots of people did. I appreciated the acting and effects, but the story makes zero sense.

It made sense to me. I even rewatched it last night to make sure I liked it as well as I thought I did and I did.

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 05:52 PM

It made sense to me. I even rewatched it last night to make sure I liked it as well as I thought I did and I did.

You think it makes sense that a Romulan ship would travel through time and sit motionless where it arrived for 25 years?

How about the fact that the Enterprise warped from Earth to Vulcan in 2 seconds, but the return trip takes long enough for Kirk to meet Old Spock, Kirk to meet Scotty, beam back to the ship and they somehow pass the Romulan ship undetected and wait to ambush it behind Saturn's rings?

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 06:07 PM

on the 25 years thing I got from it that they wait 25 years to get back at spock,but didn't wait in one spot and if you get the DVD the deleted scenes speak to this. As for the other that is a plot hole, but I still enjoyed the film.

HungaryGator

05-21-2013, 06:12 PM

You think it makes sense that a Romulan ship would travel through time and sit motionless where it arrived for 25 years?

How about the fact that the Enterprise warped from Earth to Vulcan in 2 seconds, but the return trip takes long enough for Kirk to meet Old Spock, Kirk to meet Scotty, beam back to the ship and they somehow pass the Romulan ship undetected and wait to ambush it behind Saturn's rings?

They didn't really explain where the Romulan ship went after the initial encounter with Kirk's dad's ship.

I took the differences in journey time to and from Vulcan as them just moving things along so as not to bore us on the trip there. Obviously it must've taken longer but what's the point of showing that?

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 06:19 PM

They didn't really explain where the Romulan ship went after the initial encounter with Kirk's dad's ship.

I took the differences in journey time to and from Vulcan as them just moving things along so as not to bore us on the trip there. Obviously it must've taken longer but what's the point of showing that?

That makes them plot holes.

If the Romulan was so pissed about losing his home world, he could have gone there and hung out once he arrived in the past. It would have been difficult to hide a ship that big for 25 years. Also, mining ships from Picard's era wouldn't be 3 times the size of Constitution class ships.

And why would the entire fleet be in the Rigel Sector forcing the use of the trainees? If they were all there, it would be for something as big as a Borg attack, and they'd need the new ships too.

HungaryGator

05-21-2013, 06:30 PM

If the Romulan was so pissed about losing his home world, he could have gone there and hung out once he arrived in the past.

or maybe he jumped back or couldn't stay all that long that time or whatever. I'm not going to go nuts thinking about all the possibilities and paradoxes of time travel.

As one who has a lot of trouble suspending disbelief such that I end up hating a lot of flicks others like, I can live with this.

It would have been difficult to hide a ship that big for 25 years. Also, mining ships from Picard's era wouldn't be 3 times the size of Constitution class ships.

It would be easy to hide any ship in space....if they even stayed there and didn't jump back.

As far as size...it would depend on what that ship was intended to do as far as mining goes. If it was to go far away and mine and haul all the crap that it mined back then I could see it being really big.

And why would the entire fleet be in the Rigel Sector forcing the use of the trainees? If they were all there, it would be for something as big as a Borg attack, and they'd need the new ships too.

I took it as they used everybody that was available because it was an emergency that came without warning. Obviously they would not have been able to gather the whole fleet for that. Next I'm not sure they were all trainees. It might have just been that they were shorthanded and pressed the trainees into service to supplement the personnel they had at hand. Obviously a rescue mission for a planet and possibly an evacuation is a huge undertaking.

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 06:33 PM

nm hungary answered it for you. thanks.

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 08:13 PM

or maybe he jumped back or couldn't stay all that long that time or whatever. I'm not going to go nuts thinking about all the possibilities and paradoxes of time travel.

As one who has a lot of trouble suspending disbelief such that I end up hating a lot of flicks others like, I can live with this.

It would be easy to hide any ship in space....if they even stayed there and didn't jump back.

As far as size...it would depend on what that ship was intended to do as far as mining goes. If it was to go far away and mine and haul all the crap that it mined back then I could see it being really big.

I took it as they used everybody that was available because it was an emergency that came without warning. Obviously they would not have been able to gather the whole fleet for that. Next I'm not sure they were all trainees. It might have just been that they were shorthanded and pressed the trainees into service to supplement the personnel they had at hand. Obviously a rescue mission for a planet and possibly an evacuation is a huge undertaking.

Those are really tortured explanations. You give the script writer a lot of leeway that I never would.

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 08:17 PM

Fred, I understand your points I do, but I think you must be a diehard trekkie too. See I am not and maybe that's why I could enjoy it more. I don't know.

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 09:04 PM

Fred, I understand your points I do, but I think you must be a diehard trekkie too. See I am not and maybe that's why I could enjoy it more. I don't know.

Yeah, I was. It bothered me a lot more that they brought in so many Star Wars elements even more than plot problems.

So I was prepared to be irritated again by the second one, but I wasn't. They did a much better job with that stuff this time around.

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 10:13 PM

See I am a huge star wars fan. :)

fredsanford

05-21-2013, 10:34 PM

See I am a huge star wars fan. :)

Me too.

And I don't mind them ramping up the action in Trek at all. I do mind the inclusion of a Hoth ice planet, a snow cave creature and an Ewok.

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 10:42 PM

lol, That was kinda familar. Blame abrahms.

Potzer01

05-21-2013, 11:26 PM

Hah, I want a new Star Trek TV series. I kinda hope the movies success kickstarts one.

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 11:30 PM

we kinda have one if you think about it, Big Bang. LOL. Seriously, though I would watch one.

malscott

05-21-2013, 11:48 PM

I'm with Princess on this one. I saw it in 3d at the IMAX-it freaking rocked. You can hate Trek stuff and it still rocks...I loved it...

GatorPrincess8

05-21-2013, 11:51 PM

I'm with Princess on this one. I saw it in 3d at the IMAX-it freaking rocked. You can hate Trek stuff and it still rocks...I loved it...

I am glad I could be right about something. I am totally obsessed about this movie and Man of Steel.

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 12:32 AM

Im just gonna leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69RuwsGv_I

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 12:39 AM

you meanie I love both LOL

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 12:50 AM

Still hilarious

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 12:53 AM

yes it was hilarious.

HungaryGator

05-22-2013, 12:53 AM

Hah, I want a new Star Trek TV series. I kinda hope the movies success kickstarts one.

I've watched 'em all. If there is another one, I hope its like DS9 which had the whole Dominion War and was less infected with political correctness until the very end (ie they were willing to get their hands dirty....as of course anybody would be in a huge war like that - instead of just endlessly spouting lofty principles while people were dying). I would hope it would not be like Star Trek Voyager which was infected with political correctness throughout.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 01:03 AM

I don't want political correctness here whatsoever.

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 01:08 AM

I have only seen one Star Trek ever, it was JJ's and I enjoyed it. Probably because I like Star Wars.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 01:11 AM

After I watched JJ's I went back and watched all the old one's and liked them too.

HungaryGator

05-22-2013, 01:19 AM

I don't want political correctness here whatsoever.

The original series was so fun BECAUSE Kirk broke the rules....BECAUSE he was a total horndog who would shag anything in sight, etc. LOL!

http://www.jimbrooks.org/web/humor/im/pictures_maybe_offensive_tv_movies/StarTrekShesGreenThatllDo.jpg

http://humorousfunnyjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/My_God_Captain.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2795966720/hA4127581/

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 01:20 AM

After I watched JJ's I went back and watched all the old one's and liked them too.

Yeah, I have too much Doctor Who to watch to do that.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 01:23 AM

see, I don't what Dr. Who? SO I had the time.

Gatorrick22

05-22-2013, 01:32 AM

The original series was so fun BECAUSE Kirk broke the rules....BECAUSE he was a total horndog who would shag anything in sight, etc. LOL!

http://www.jimbrooks.org/web/humor/im/pictures_maybe_offensive_tv_movies/StarTrekShesGreenThatllDo.jpg

http://humorousfunnyjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/My_God_Captain.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2795966720/hA4127581/

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

That gets four laughter/s. Hilarious.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 01:33 AM

In the new movie you got to watch out for Spock too apparently. LOL

fredsanford

05-22-2013, 09:02 AM

Yeah, I have too much Doctor Who to watch to do that.

I have been catching up on Dr. Who also. The 2010 season with the Amy Pond and River Song storyline is an all time favorite.

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 09:06 AM

I have been catching up on Dr. Who also. The 2010 season with the Amy Pond and River Song storyline is an all time favorite.

Just finished that one and yeah it was great. Loved Amy, she is definitely my favorite of the companions.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 02:45 PM

now I am totally lost in this thread.

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 02:55 PM

British Sci Fi show that has been running on and off for 50 years.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436992/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Its awesome.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 02:59 PM

I have heard of it, but know nothing about characters etc. how do you keep up with a 50 year old running show?

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 03:01 PM

I have only watched 5 seasons. 05-10. I am I think 2 behind. Its really easy to keep up. Start with the ones starring Billie Piper and Chris Eccleston. They should be available streaming online somewhere.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 03:04 PM

Billie Piper the one that played the call girl on that one show on Showtime?

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 03:05 PM

The same

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 03:12 PM

cool, I liked her in that show.

fredsanford

05-22-2013, 04:54 PM

I have heard of it, but know nothing about characters etc. how do you keep up with a 50 year old running show?

There usually aren't that many characters. It's just the Doctor and a companion or two. He has some recurring villains like the Daleks who are his Klingons.

The companion(s) and the actor playing the Doctor change every few years. Find the beginning of the 2010 story lines with Matt Smith as the Doc and Karen Gillan as Amy Pond. BBC America has them running all the time.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 05:20 PM

I don't think it's my kinda thing, but if I see it on I'll give it a look.

GatorSaint

05-22-2013, 05:49 PM

Pretty sure the Romulan mining vessel was referenced having moved around in Star Trek.

IIRC it was referenced having gone into Klingon space and attacking the Klingons and killing 49 Birds of Prey - you know, the message that Uhura intercepted which allowed Kirk to get Pike to put the shields up before they reached Vulcan.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 05:57 PM

Thanks Saint, I had forgotton that. Makes much more sense now.

fredsanford

05-22-2013, 10:26 PM

I don't think it's my kinda thing, but if I see it on I'll give it a look.

Based on your fandom of similar things, I think you'd like it. Especially the Matt Smith Doctor.

GatorPrincess8

05-22-2013, 10:33 PM

Ok, If I see it I'll give it a try and is matt smith a hottie?

LeafUF

05-22-2013, 11:42 PM

Ok, If I see it I'll give it a try and is matt smith a hottie?

I dont know about that but he is likeable. I dont think he has any tattoos, so there is that. And he has an accent. But Amy Pond is the real gem.

alphaOmegator

05-23-2013, 08:12 AM

Is Imax worth it or is 3D just as good?

helix139

05-23-2013, 09:09 AM

Is Imax worth it or is 3D just as good?

The movie was partially filmed in 65MM large format, and thus is worth it. It's not simply a digital conversion like most of the LieMAX movies that get released.

fredsanford

05-23-2013, 09:28 AM

Ok, If I see it I'll give it a try and is matt smith a hottie?

Well I'm a straight guy, so it's hard for me to judge. Lol

Some of the female characters on the show call him hot.

grayg8rstevo

05-23-2013, 10:23 AM

wow...technical information and homoerotic comparisons all on the same page. I think we are about to tear a hole in the space time continuum, captain and I canna hold the warp drive together much longer.

GatorPrincess8

05-23-2013, 12:17 PM

lol, you can do it stevo.

grayg8rstevo

05-24-2013, 07:36 AM

That's pretty good ya know..beaming two people from two different places at warp speed.

I like this ship.

alphaOmegator

05-24-2013, 09:25 AM

Me and my daughter saw the movie yesterday. We sprang for the Imax version. it was outstanding--a real entertaining experience..Loved the characters, story line, special affects and oh yes, I believe Spock and the villain(Mr. Cumber batch) stole the show. There were a few discrepancies in the story line and in some of the scenes, which my daughter spotted(she is a movie aficionado); overall, I thought it a very enjoyable movie.:grin: