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Jaggator
01-23-2013, 11:48 AM
Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland linebacker

Is he going to re-commit to Florida?

StrangeGator
01-23-2013, 12:13 PM
Good question. He doesn't replace Hearns, who was our only pure Mike. But we can designate one of our bigger OLB types as a Mike which would make room for Powell. Looking at the remaining talent on our board at all the other positions of need, Q. Powell is one of the best prospects left.

Gatorrick22
01-23-2013, 12:26 PM
Good question. He doesn't replace Hearns, who was our only pure Mike. But we can designate one of our bigger OLB types as a Mike which would make room for Powell. Looking at the remaining talent on our board at all the other positions of need, Q. Powell is one of the best prospects left.

What's up with Hearns? Did we lose him?


I think Powell is ours.

UFFL
01-23-2013, 12:28 PM
Hearns is still with us. I think he sticks with us, depending on grades. Also we have McMillian and Anzalone coming in, both who can play inside. We were lacking depth at LB, and this class helped a bit

DieAGator
01-23-2013, 01:06 PM
Tells me staff not confident in Hearns. Even if staff is confident in Hearns why take a guy that's probably two full seasons away from being physically ready? It won't solve any depth issues and presumably the guys who are already 220+ will be here in two seasons anyway. I'll be surprised if Hearns and QP are in this class.

Gatorrick22
01-23-2013, 02:35 PM
Tells me staff not confident in Hearns. Even if staff is confident in Hearns why take a guy that's probably two full seasons away from being physically ready? It won't solve any depth issues and presumably the guys who are already 220+ will be here in two seasons anyway. I'll be surprised if Hearns and QP are in this class.

Or maybe we're going to run a 3-4 defense more next year.

ETGator1
01-23-2013, 02:49 PM
2nd hat on the table - likely SC bound to play with ex-teammate Leonard Williams.

Speedofsand
01-23-2013, 03:28 PM
from today...
http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20130122/SPORTS/130129918/1001/SPORTS?p=2&tc=pg

The 6-foot-1, 205-pounder said he is intrigued by his projected role in the 3-4 defensive alignment of new Trojans defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast.
“It was awesome seeing him again,” Powell said. “I barely get to see him anymore, and it was great. We were just talking about life. We tried to stay away from football. Of course, that did come up. But he just said he is enjoying (Southern Cal), and he told me to find the school I enjoy the most.
"His opinion won't have an influence on my decision. It does kind of help, but the reality is I have to decide where I feel like I can live for the next four years of my life.”
And despite backing off from his verbal commitment to Florida last month, Powell insisted the Gators are still in play. In fact, he said newly promoted Gators defensive coordinator D.J. Durkin is scheduled to visit him Wednesday at Mainland.

GATORAZ
01-23-2013, 03:35 PM
Tells me staff not confident in Hearns. Even if staff is confident in Hearns why take a guy that's probably two full seasons away from being physically ready? It won't solve any depth issues and presumably the guys who are already 220+ will be here in two seasons anyway. I'll be surprised if Hearns and QP are in this class.

Hearns and Powel play two different positions. You take Powell because he can really rush the passer. Not every kid starts right away.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-23-2013, 03:37 PM
It sounds like it's going to go down to the wire for Powell. It sounds like he wants to go to USC, but that's a huge geographical change. It'll be interesting to see how his visit with Durkin goes.

USC does very well in the state of Florida.

MadduxFanII
01-23-2013, 03:50 PM
Come on, Quinton. You don't want to play for a defensive coordinator whose name makes him sound like the foreman of a 19th century textile mill.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-23-2013, 03:56 PM
Hearns and Powel play two different positions. You take Powell because he can really rush the passer. Not every kid starts right away.

True. There's no way Powell comes in and plays immediately. Well, he might earn playing time on special teams, but he won't be ready to contribute at his natural position for at least two years.

GATORAZ
01-23-2013, 04:00 PM
it still boggles my mind that the staff didn't want to bring in Mathew Thomas

NoahBeanBizzel
01-23-2013, 04:04 PM
it still boggles my mind that the staff didn't want to bring in Mathew Thomas

Why not?

jms
01-23-2013, 04:06 PM
I want Hearns the kid has the heart of a LION!! QP is great too. Can we have them both please!?

Jaggator
01-23-2013, 04:06 PM
it still boggles my mind that the staff didn't want to bring in Mathew Thomas

Thomas never really showed much interest in Florida so they backed off would be my guess.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Matthew-Thomas-124025

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/THOMASUA__1_6_150.JPG

GATORAZ
01-23-2013, 04:07 PM
Why not?

They think he is soft. I just don't see it but will trust their judgment I guess.

Gatorrick22
01-23-2013, 05:21 PM
They think he is soft. I just don't see it but will trust their judgment I guess.

Or his grades?

DieAGator
01-23-2013, 10:07 PM
Hearns and Powell play two different positions. You take Powell because he can really rush the passer. Not every kid starts right away.
True and part of the formula is sign all the players with potential you can and see where you end up. I see the link above lists Powell at 205. If true he's put on some significant weight in 12 months.


Come on, Quinton. You don't want to play for a defensive coordinator whose name makes him sound like the foreman of a 19th century textile mill.
Hillarious. Tried to rep but says I have to spread it around first.

AndrewSpivey
01-24-2013, 05:05 PM
Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland linebacker

Is he going to re-commit to Florida?

Right now he doesn't have the green light to commit

acegator
01-26-2013, 04:11 PM
Right now he doesn't have the green light to commit

Why not?

Gatorrick22
01-26-2013, 04:15 PM
Right now he doesn't have the green light to commit

Interesting.

ETGator1
01-27-2013, 09:42 AM
He doesn't have the green light to commit even after Hearns being dropped? Powell was good enough/qualified for UF before he took his visits wasn't he?

GatorJeff
01-27-2013, 11:05 AM
Might be thinking that four is enough. We're in the nickel about 70% of the time, so signing five for essentially 2 1/2 positions is probably overdoing it.

gatorsallday
01-27-2013, 04:09 PM
Hearns and Powell are projected to play 2 different positions in our system, which is probably y hearns decommitment doesn't necessarily mean Powell is a take

gator1986
01-27-2013, 04:11 PM
Hearns didn't de commit, Florida cut ties due to grade issues.

gatorsallday
01-27-2013, 04:15 PM
Point still remains the same. They play two different positions

gator1986
01-27-2013, 04:17 PM
Yea ones a OLB and ones a MLB. It would have been nice to get Hearns in this class though

NoahBeanBizzel
01-27-2013, 09:24 PM
Might be thinking that four is enough. We're in the nickel about 70% of the time, so signing five for essentially 2 1/2 positions is probably overdoing it.

We were in the nickel 70% of the time to get our best players on the field as much as possible. We had a six-man rotation that was easily among the best in all of college football last year and, again, a smart man plays to what he has.

We simply didn't have the personnel-or depth-at linebacker to run a lot of 3-4, and that's something I think they ultimately want to run more of. So, it's not like bringing in another true OLB would be a bad thing. The nickel isn't going away, but I think they'd like to build up the depth across the front seven as much as possible. It only allows you to do more.

StrangeGator
01-27-2013, 10:22 PM
We were in the nickel 70% of the time to get our best players on the field as much as possible. We had a six-man rotation that was easily among the best in all of college football last year and, again, a smart man plays to what he has.

We simply didn't have the personnel-or depth-at linebacker to run a lot of 3-4, and that's something I think they ultimately want to run more of. So, it's not like bringing in another true OLB would be a bad thing. The nickel isn't going away, but I think they'd like to build up the depth across the front seven as much as possible. It only allows you to do more.

OLBs in a true two-gap three-four defense are not the same kind of OLBs we recruit for 3-4. I really like Q Powell and I think he would grow into a great OLB in our current defense, but he would be a square peg in a 3-4. College OLBs in a 3-4 are much bigger and taller. They're typically identified as WSDE prospects with some coverage ability. As good as Jelani Jenkins was in our defense, I don't know where he'd fit in a true 3-4 set. Not sure how much I'm sold on that kind of defense. I like the flex defense we have now. I really don't like two-gap defense for collegiate players. It's just seems too complicated.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-27-2013, 11:31 PM
same size coming into Florida that Powell is now, and he ended up filling in for Powell over at the Buck. I suspect that Powell will end up playing between 220-225 when all is said and done.

Also, in Muschamp's defense, the 3-4 would bring the Sam and Buck linebackers are basically brought up to the end of the line of scrimmage, allowing them to adjust the coverages they're in as the offense sets people in motion. So yes, while you would like to have heavier 'backers on the outside, they don't necessarily need to be "taller".

But the 3-4 is something we're not going to install as our primary defense. Muschamp would like to shift in and out of 3-4 and 4-3 sets, but we'll continue to be in the nickel coverage at least 50% of the game. With the size Powell is at right now, he'd really only fit in as a WLB in a 4-3, unless he substantially bulks up enough to become an option at the strongside in 3-4/nickel sets. He'd still be a nice addition.

bleedorangeblue
01-28-2013, 10:21 PM
Quinton Powell @qpowe17
Coach Muschamp just left my house, man o man this is a hard decision

UFreak
01-28-2013, 10:27 PM
Quinton Powell @qpowe17
Coach Muschamp just left my house, man o man this is a hard decision

It appears as if he does still have an offer then.

ETGator1
01-29-2013, 09:25 AM
The decision shouldn't be tough at all. USC will be down by SC standards for his first three years, 13/14/15, due to reduced ships in 13 and 14. The 15 season will be full load, but too inexperienced to compete at high levels.

Throw in Lame Kitten is a horrible coach who will likely be fired towards the end of the probation affected time and it makes no sense for a Daytona kid to pass up national power Florida for trouble ridden Southern California. Powell is clearly getting some questionable advise from his coach.

GATORnGA31909
02-02-2013, 11:49 AM
anyone heard what the huge news is...Derek Tyson just posted on Twitter however I dont have insider access

Hilldw
02-02-2013, 11:51 AM
According to Tyson "Florida will no longer wait on Quinton Powell." He's out.

UFreak
02-02-2013, 11:56 AM
According to Tyson "Florida will no longer wait on Quinton Powell." He's out.

I find this odd in that we don't appear to be in a situation where we will be short on openings from a ship standpoint.

Hilldw
02-02-2013, 12:00 PM
I had the same thought. I figured it was due to off the field issues like character or something. Or maybe the Gators are going to get more commits on NSD than people think...

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 12:01 PM
or maybe they just know like everybody else he is going to USC

gator1986
02-02-2013, 12:01 PM
or maybe they just know like everybody else he is going to USC

Right there

UFreak
02-02-2013, 12:02 PM
Or maybe the Gators are going to get more commits on NSD than people think...

I hope it's this. Maybe there are some surprises out there that are off the radar.

UFreak
02-02-2013, 12:03 PM
or maybe they just know like everybody else he is going to USC

So your saying it's just a save face move?
I guess it's possible, but I just don't think so.

gator1986
02-02-2013, 12:03 PM
I hope it's this. Maybe there are some surprises out there that are off the radar.

I have a feeling there will be some surprises

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 12:06 PM
So your saying it's just a save face move?
I guess it's possible, but I just don't think so.

no I am not saying that

jsc28
02-02-2013, 12:16 PM
My feeling is the coaches don't think he is coming, and don't want to wait around and get burned on signing day.

Maybe someone else is showing interest and they don't want to sit on the scholly.

elvislisa
02-02-2013, 12:19 PM
From QP's Twitter...

"Did that jus happen??? Cant trust nobody.. I hate them now straight up"

There better be a good reason we did this because it doesn't look good on the surface! With so many spots open I can't understand this one.

LimeyGator
02-02-2013, 12:22 PM
NM

Gatorallstar1012
02-02-2013, 12:25 PM
Its funny how the recruit acts when he feels the coaches burned him but when the recruits burn coaches by flipping or decommitting they dont think much of it. Just saying.

UFreak
02-02-2013, 12:27 PM
Leads me to believe we have someone else to take his ship.

gator1986
02-02-2013, 12:33 PM
From QP's Twitter...

"Did that jus happen??? Cant trust nobody.. I hate them now straight up"

There better be a good reason we did this because it doesn't look good on the surface! With so many spots open I can't understand this one.

Well should of stayed committed, I can tell by all this there is another ship being giving out...

wci347
02-02-2013, 12:36 PM
How do we know Tyson's information is accurate unless we get confirmation from someone on our side? This could be a ploy by some USC booster to create a last minute rift to seal his commitment with them. If Muschamp visited him and we get the response "Coach Muschamp just left my house, man o man this is a hard decision" and that happened within the last few days, then it is unlikely that we did or said anything that would have impacted on the this current status. Muschamp is not going to meet with a recruit, reaffirm our interest in him after he decommitted, and then drop him a couple days later.

This is either subterfuge by USC or gamesmanship by Muschamp and Powell

UFreak
02-02-2013, 12:44 PM
This is either subterfuge by USC or gamesmanship by Muschamp and Powell

Or final days movement. It could mean that someone else was willing to jump on board who we were not as aware of.
???? Just a thought

LimeyGator
02-02-2013, 12:46 PM
From Zach A:

Daytona Beach Mainland linebacker Quinton Powell just told me Florida called this morning and said it doesn't have enough scholarships left to hold a spot for him in the 2013 class.

Powell added that this was not because the UF coaches weren't willing to wait on his NSD decision and said they never gave him an ultimatum of, 'commit right now or we're moving on.' He was told they simply don't have room anymore.


The NSD love-in finally comes back to bite a recruit. I'm glad.

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 12:46 PM
How do we know Tyson's information is accurate unless we get confirmation from someone on our side? This could be a ploy by some USC booster to create a last minute rift to seal his commitment with them. If Muschamp visited him and we get the response "Coach Muschamp just left my house, man o man this is a hard decision" and that happened within the last few days, then it is unlikely that we did or said anything that would have impacted on the this current status. Muschamp is not going to meet with a recruit, reaffirm our interest in him after he decommitted, and then drop him a couple days later.

This is either subterfuge by USC or gamesmanship by Muschamp and Powell

well what if they didnt send him a LOI :wave:

GataBaitx3
02-02-2013, 12:48 PM
From Zach A:

The NSD love-in finally comes back to bite a recruit. I'm glad.

Does this mean there are some possible commits we don't know about? *cough* Ramsey? *cough*

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 12:50 PM
you have to remember Powell said something like "If they really want me they well wait" when he decommitted. I wonder if CWM will recruit a kid out of Mainland again

wci347
02-02-2013, 12:51 PM
Or final days movement. It could mean that someone else was willing to jump on board who we were not as aware of.
???? Just a thought

I think that under those circumstances and given the nature of the process, that Champ would have afforded Powell a chance to at least silent commit again. We have gotten three linebackers since his commitment/decommitment. It is a two way street.

This reeks of gamesmanship. It strikes me as an in your face to Kiffin who has been nothing but a POS when it comes to ethics and fair play.

LimeyGator
02-02-2013, 12:51 PM
you have to remember Powell said something like "If they really want me they well wait" when he decommitted. I wonder if CWM will recruit a kid out of Mainland again

According that Powell said it wasn't a "we won't wait" scenario though...

Zanso
02-02-2013, 12:54 PM
Has to be more to this. Champ went out of his way to do an in home with Powell last week and I don't see us having 8 recruits (or however many spots we have left) that are better than Powell.

revthejedi
02-02-2013, 01:13 PM
Who are the players that are taking the remaining scholarships?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Gator Country

ufovrfsu
02-02-2013, 01:15 PM
Have to think something happened yesterday and/or this morning to cause this. Between the official and unofficial visitors this weekend, and the in home visits Thursday night/Friday morning, we must have received at least a couple of firm commitments? Between the in homes with Ramsey and Bowers, plus the JC QB, Clark, and Bostick as visitors, I can realistically see each of them giving a verbal to the coaches. On the other hand, I can see see us getting only one or two of that group. BUT if we only felt good about one or two would we really tell Powell we no longer have any room?

iam4uf
02-02-2013, 01:24 PM
From QP's Twitter...

"Did that jus happen??? Cant trust nobody.. I hate them now straight up"

There better be a good reason we did this because it doesn't look good on the surface! With so many spots open I can't understand this one.

lol, QP de-commited from UF, so I have no more of an idea why he tweeted that than I do that you posted "it doesn't look good".

rserina
02-02-2013, 02:13 PM
Just a weird situation. I liked Powell, but it stands to reason that decommitting puts both your offer and your relationship with the staff in the balance. Sometimes it works out, other times it doesn't. This one obviously looks bad for all involved, but it started because the kid rescinded his commitment in the first place. Fortunately, between Anzalone and Roth, we have covered ourselves a bit at the position.

gator1986
02-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Just a weird situation. I liked Powell, but it stands to reason that decommitting puts both your offer and your relationship with the staff in the balance. Sometimes it works out, other times it doesn't. This one obviously looks bad for all involved, but it started because the kid rescinded his commitment in the first place. Fortunately, between Anzalone and Roth, we have covered ourselves a bit at the position.

Correct, if you want in then don't commit. If you feel the need to just visit other places then do it, just don't de commit then take your visits, put everyone on edge and then all of sudden act like you cared and wanted in the whole time

Ahab
02-02-2013, 02:24 PM
Or we may have gotten good news from a 2014 LB that we like more. No way of knowing the particulars.

bleedorangeblue
02-02-2013, 02:27 PM
^^^^^
This. I have a hard time believing that we are going to fill the 7 or so remaining spots and not have room for Powell in this class.

LimeyGator
02-02-2013, 02:27 PM
Someone needs to explain what "commitment" means to QP if he's upset at the way UF treated him...

gator7_5
02-02-2013, 02:30 PM
Or we may have gotten good news from a 2014 LB that we like more. No way of knowing the particulars.

Agree. Hell, maybe CWM would rather give a walkon a ship next year than Powell for 4 yrs.

Danielmaddie
02-02-2013, 03:21 PM
I have been hearing UF doesn't want to fill every remaining spot (7) for whatever reason the are only looking to take another 4-5 max. So I'm thinking Ramsey, Bostwick, Clark and Reed?

elrongator
02-02-2013, 03:56 PM
Let's look at the facts:
1. Powell decommitted, that put his place at stake, not UF action
2. Muschamp is a straight shooter and every recruit we hear from has said this
3. UF has an awesome class and is in the process of closing it out
4. Powell isn't the only available recruit we were after
5. Room for EEs next year can be more valuable than even a 4* recruit if the position that recruit plays is well stocked.
6. We have no idea what Muschamp told him and for Powell to flip from committed to dancing around, to saying its a tough decision, to saying I hate them, shows just a glimpse of what he's been putting our coaches through...let alone his immaturity and ego.
7. We are going to have fun on NSD and from my sources, we look to be in for a fun day.
(ie we will keep what we have and add three more).

gymgator
02-02-2013, 04:20 PM
Makes sense they want to hold back a few ships. We have 16 SRs next year, normal 2-4 transfers, medical/NFL, etc and then hold back 2-4 ships puts the class in the 20-25 range which is where a healthy program should be.

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 04:39 PM
Schools Powell has never been to are now in his top 4 lol. He was using UF as his fall back plan just in case Kiffin didnt have room for him. He also needs some other hats on the table for ESPNU. His new top 4....

Quinton Powell ‏@qpowe17
New top 4 #Miami #Oregon #USC #SouthCarolina

AFCyberGator
02-02-2013, 04:47 PM
My guess is that the article above is correct:
- Quinton made the choice to decommit, and put his LOI in jeopardy.
- The Gator staff already has plenty of LBs where they do not need to waste too much time placating the ego of an 18-year old kid, regardless of how good he is.
- The Gators are already closing in on what they consider a complete class of 25 +/- a few flips to and from UF. They need to focus their energy on another DT (Jarran Reed or Jay-nard Bostwick), a DB (Jalen Ramsey), a backup QB (Tanner McEvoy), current soft commitments that are being targeted by rivals (Antonio Riles, Chris Thompson), and perhaps a surprise (Robert Nkemdiche is a long shot, but would be nice).

This is Quinton's first lesson in supply and demand. When there are other LBs in demand, he has less leverage, especially if Florida can find other supplies elsewhere that not only did not decommit, but did not insist on stringing out the decision until NSD. The coaches have lots of last minute visits, phone calls, and sales pitches to make to about a dozen other kids this weekend.

Zanso
02-02-2013, 05:21 PM
@LukeStampini: Some chatter saying the Gators are in for a pretty impressive NSD. Trying to see if it's legit.

I really didn't expect us to get much on NSD, but maybe there's something going on we don't know about.

Tebowism0823
02-02-2013, 05:41 PM
Someone needs to explain what "commitment" means to QP if he's upset at the way UF treated him...

Word!

Tebowism0823
02-02-2013, 05:43 PM
Forget all the chatter about the other recruits, this recruit is the DIVA!

gatorright
02-02-2013, 06:02 PM
Obviously we can only hear QP's side of it, but it reminds me of that OL with the long, funny name who ended up playing around until we said "see ya" and he bemoaned the evil Gators and ended up playing for refsu.

MadduxFanII
02-02-2013, 06:05 PM
Obviously we can only hear QP's side of it, but it reminds me of that OL with the long, funny name who ended up playing around until we said "see ya" and he bemoaned the evil Gators and ended up playing for refsu.

I'm trying to remember who this might be. Zebrie Sanders, who was thought to be a UGA lock, got turned away because they didn't have the scholarships, turned to us, got pushed away because we didn't have the scholarships then ended up at FSU?

Veritas
02-02-2013, 06:07 PM
Schools Powell has never been to are now in his top 4 lol. He was using UF as his fall back plan just in case Kiffin didnt have room for him. He also needs some other hats on the table for ESPNU. His new top 4....

Quinton Powell ‏@qpowe17
New top 4 #Miami #Oregon #USC #SouthCarolina

Yup. Powell has been a USC silent for a while, Muschamp knew it, and was not going to be used as simply a hat on a table.

ETGator1
02-02-2013, 06:34 PM
Yup. Powell has been a USC silent for a while, Muschamp knew it, and was not going to be used as simply a hat on a table.

This.

NoahBeanBizzel
02-02-2013, 06:48 PM
Yup. I think this is just a case of the staff being satisfied with the personnel brought in at the LB position, I think we can use the scholarships toward next year's class, and Powell had a chance to be a part of this class before he decided to bounce. So, he can pack his bags and head out to LA.

Or we could be in for a massive signing day haul, which seems pretty unlikely. But you never know. I don't believe any reports I hear about "silent" commitments. But I think we pull off the Buster Douglas with a prospect or two. Maybe an unlikely prospect like Collins or Adams decides to pick us. You just don't know.

Speedofsand
02-02-2013, 08:00 PM
you have to remember Powell said something like "If they really want me they well wait" when he decommitted. I wonder if CWM will recruit a kid out of Mainland again
LOL WUT? Do you wonder if he will ever recruit another Dwyer kid? Clark & Christian didn't just decommit, they QUIT in mid-season.

My guess is our coach didn't like how the last visit went. No big loss, we're not going to see QP in the NFL in 4 years. I saw QP play last year more than this year. He didn't grow at all. His Jr year was big because opponents ran away from L. Williams. All QP did this year was pass rush off the end for sacks. He is too thin to be an SEC LB. He has never played LB and would have taken two years to get on the field at UF. No big deal losing him to Kiffin, UF just helped him make up his mind.

GATORAZ
02-02-2013, 08:04 PM
LOL WUT? Do you wonder if he will ever recruit another Dwyer kid? Clark & Christian didn't just decommit, they QUIT in mid-season.



Why would I guess that when the staff was in Dwyer last week? The Dwyer situation is a lot different then the Mainland situation where a coach is pushing kids away from Florida.

apkgator
02-02-2013, 08:35 PM
Only 11 seniors, so ships are going to be even tighter next year. Add in that much of the easy attrition has already happened and I'm ok saving a couple of slots


Makes sense they want to hold back a few ships. We have 16 SRs next year, normal 2-4 transfers, medical/NFL, etc and then hold back 2-4 ships puts the class in the 20-25 range which is where a healthy program should be.

LimeyGator
02-03-2013, 04:06 AM
Quinton Powell ‏@qpowe17

@D_SC5 Uf ididdnt save me an schlorship

Interesting on many levels. He clealy felt, from this tweet to Devin Washinton above, that UF was going to "save him" a scholarship. Whether we promised him (and then with Anzalone, it went through) or whether he's just been very naive in terms of expecting a major programme to wait around on him despite decommitting, I don't know. But it looks like one or the other...

eastowest
02-03-2013, 08:27 AM
Delete this thread...........please

32250Gator
02-03-2013, 08:57 AM
@LukeStampini: Some chatter saying the Gators are in for a pretty impressive NSD. Trying to see if it's legit.

I really didn't expect us to get much on NSD, but maybe there's something going on we don't know about.


Wonder what this is? Ive always liked Stampini, especially when it comes to South FL info, he seems pretty plugged in.

UFreak
02-03-2013, 09:03 AM
Given his region, I wonder if it isn't Clark and Bostwick that he is alluding to. And maybe a surprise like Collins???

NoahBeanBizzel
02-03-2013, 09:41 AM
Given his region, I wonder if it isn't Clark and Bostwick that he is alluding to. And maybe a surprise like Collins???

Somebody is going to come out of left field. With all the "not likely's" we have left on on our board, you would have to think one will "shock the world" and sign with Florida.

I just can't see us completely whiffing on like ten prospects on signing day, with as much as Muschamp has been on the road. We're going to have one signing day splash. At least, I hope we do.

Speedofsand
02-03-2013, 10:17 AM
Why would I guess that when the staff was in Dwyer last week? The Dwyer situation is a lot different then the Mainland situation where a coach is pushing kids away from Florida.

Of course its different. Every situation is different, like you going from something Powell said to saying his coach is pushing kids away from UF. Williams live in Cali, and always liked SC. Powell was a different situation, he talked himself out of a UF scholly. Its silly to wonder if CWM will ever recruit the school again. The next kid will be a different situation, like the next kid at Dwyer will hopefully be different than Clark & Christian and more like Elam.

GATORAZ
02-03-2013, 11:11 AM
Of course its different. Every situation is different, like you going from something Powell said to saying his coach is pushing kids away from UF. Williams live in Cali, and always liked SC. Powell was a different situation, he talked himself out of a UF scholly. Its silly to wonder if CWM will ever recruit the school again. The next kid will be a different situation, like the next kid at Dwyer will hopefully be different than Clark & Christian and more like Elam.

Coaches stop recruiting certain schools all the time. Especially if they feel like a school or coach is pushing kids to another place.

Speedofsand
02-03-2013, 11:29 AM
You think Wilson pushed QP away from Florida? He has only been the coach for 2 years. LW was always a trojan fan, lived in Cali before Mainland. Powell is one kid. Mainland has historically had good teams, with some bad kids. Maronto is finally gone, and I like the discipline they show on the field now.

GATORAZ
02-03-2013, 11:43 AM
You think Wilson pushed QP away from Florida? He has only been the coach for 2 years. LW was always a trojan fan, lived in Cali before Mainland. Powell is one kid. Mainland has historically had good teams, with some bad kids. Maronto is finally gone, and I like the discipline they show on the field now.

Of course I believe there is influence to go to USC at Mainland seeing that multiple reporters have said LW was talked into going to USC the day before singing day.

We have a poster on here who says he talks to the family and the staff at Mainland was pushing Powell to USC. We also have Powell saying the same stuff LW said like "if they want me they will wait".

Speedofsand
02-03-2013, 12:46 PM
Same thing was said about Weiner & Plant for many years but some posters still disagreed that his players are steered away from UF.

Lawdog88
02-03-2013, 12:48 PM
Uh hey, UF. I'd like to put one of these scholarships on lay-a-way, for the recruiting season. No, not that one, the other one over there in the back. Yeah, that one.

Hey, I will check back from time to time in my other travels, and if something better doesn't work out and I still want it, I'll just mosey on in and claim it.

Thanks. Really appreciate it. Later.

RayGator
02-03-2013, 01:51 PM
Powell sounds like a good fit for the Miami Hurricanes. He has the character.

gator7_5
02-03-2013, 02:14 PM
Of course I believe there is influence to go to USC at Mainland seeing that multiple reporters have said LW was talked into going to USC the day before singing day.

We have a poster on here who says he talks to the family and the staff at Mainland was pushing Powell to USC. We also have Powell saying the same stuff LW said like "if they want me they will wait".

Good thing we kept recruiting a WR is this class who's coach did more steering away from UF than any other coach ever. Coaches don't have final say in a players decision. Every player is different and it would be stupid to write off a primetime program because of a coach.

GATORAZ
02-03-2013, 02:20 PM
Good thing we kept recruiting a WR is this class who's coach did more steering away from UF than any other coach ever. Coaches don't have final say in a players decision. Every player is different and it would be stupid to write off a program because of a coach.

I would say its a great thing they kept recruiting Robinson and why would they have stopped in the middle of a cycle? I was one of the few advocates on this board for continuing to recruit Tunsil and Walker. That being said the practice of stop recruiting kids at certain schools because of coaches happens all the time.

gator7_5
02-03-2013, 02:22 PM
Well, I think that's dumb and I don't think Will will do it. Especially not in Florida.

GATORAZ
02-03-2013, 02:30 PM
Powell says he thought he had until Monday
http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20130202/SPORTS/130209937/1001?p=1&tc=pg

MadduxFanII
02-03-2013, 02:33 PM
I'm usually not on board with taking shots at these kids, and consider myself "pro-player," but...dammit, Quinton, you can't complain about not having a scholarship any more. You had one! You were committed! If you wanted the scholarship so badly you shouldn't have bailed.

Lawdog88
02-03-2013, 02:33 PM
Someone seems to be either misinformed, or just not listening.

Sounds like a good move for UF to have made his "decision" a little "easier."

ETGator1
02-03-2013, 02:55 PM
Gator Bait! Next.

1984Gator
02-03-2013, 03:21 PM
Of course its different. Every situation is different, like you going from something Powell said to saying his coach is pushing kids away from UF. Williams live in Cali, and always liked SC. Powell was a different situation, he talked himself out of a UF scholly. Its silly to wonder if CWM will ever recruit the school again. The next kid will be a different situation, like the next kid at Dwyer will hopefully be different than Clark & Christian and more like Elam.

Mainland is a powerhouse HS program that has turned out talent over the years but FSU has been the primary beneficiary. The school is run very poorly and athletes are give the red carpet treatment such that I would be concerned with character when recruiting from there. If the kid comes in and does everything asked of him then fine but I wouldn't bend over backward to accommodate him. We offered, he accepted and then he walked away. I'd pass on him!

DieAGator
02-03-2013, 03:57 PM
I don't feel like QP's done anything "wrong" that we as fans should remember him for or feel marginalized because of. Recruiting is a tough game to play and staff's are constantly in meetings behind closed doors deciding if a player should or shouldn't have a future at their school, and under which conditions they would or would not bring them on board. So far I cannot tell that Powell had an unconditional, open offer to be a Gator. I think he's really talented(apparently) but he's really a tweener in my book. Yes, he might eventually carry 225lbs but that's likely a couple seasons away. And by then we'll have another eight- likely more physically ready- LBs on roster.

At this point I say if he can get on the sinking ship that is USC, god bless him and good luck.

Can someone refresh my memory... do we know exactly why he decommitted to begin with? Seems to me he felt some kind of pressure to try his luck back on the recruiting stage.

LimeyGator
02-03-2013, 05:11 PM
I don't feel like QP's done anything "wrong" that we as fans should remember him for or feel marginalized because of. Recruiting is a tough game to play and staff's are constantly in meetings behind closed doors deciding if a player should or shouldn't have a future at their school, and under which conditions they would or would not bring them on board. So far I cannot tell that Powell had an unconditional, open offer to be a Gator. I think he's really talented(apparently) but he's really a tweener in my book. Yes, he might eventually carry 225lbs but that's likely a couple seasons away. And by then we'll have another eight- likely more physically ready- LBs on roster.

At this point I say if he can get on the sinking ship that is USC, god bless him and good luck.

Can someone refresh my memory... do we know exactly why he decommitted to begin with? Seems to me he felt some kind of pressure to try his luck back on the recruiting stage.

He was committed! He had that very offer. He decided to look around on the same weekend that Rolin committed back in December, and all the articles I found cited an interest in "looking around". Scout said he wanted to do so as he'd "matured" during the process.

One quote attributed to Powell by Zach A (http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/14364/mcmillian-powell-talk-uf-official-commitment-status/) was enlightening back, just a day or so before he said he would visit elsewhere and then promptly decommitted:

Powell couldn’t put a percentage on his commitment to the Gators, but he said it is solid and the coaches have talked to him about his decision.

“They’re fine with it, but they just let me know that they’re going to keep recruiting other linebackers because it wouldn’t fair if I changed my decision and they were left out to dry,” Powell said. “So we’re both working together and keeping each other updated on where things are at.”

Seems to me like if he'd stick by his plan, there was always a scholarship there for him. So it's really his loss...

Speedofsand
02-03-2013, 06:51 PM
1984Gator, I pretty much said that in a later post. When they lost, they were poor losers. Wilson has improved the stadium behavior. Jury still out on character building, lots of large schools have troubled kids. Powell has never been in trouble like some other recruits, I'll just say again it looks like CWM didn't like how the last visit went.

gator7_5
02-03-2013, 06:53 PM
Looks like he has skinny arms. He should go to the acc.