3 more players leaving team

[Danielmaddie]

Stephen Alli and Kedric Johnson are graduating this spring and will not return to the team in the fall and Tommy Jordan's career is over due to shoulder

[gatorbait96]

Not surprising. Wish them well!

[revthejedi]

For whatever reason, I always thought Alli could be a factor at WR. Oh well, good luck guys.

[gatorkev_85]

They just keep dropping like flies!

[g8rfan22]

Stephen is a great guy. Wish him the best.

[LAGatorDoc]

They just keep dropping like flies!

Sucks for Tommy, never got a shot to make it to the field, really, and I didn't even know he injured his shoulder. I knew Silberman had surgery for his labrum, we never even heard of Jordan's injury.

Wish them the best. Once a Gator, always a Gator.

[gator34654]

Stephen ought to take up boxing.

[Claygator]

I think this is now 27 players gone from last year's team. Expect a very different team in 2013.

[gatorman_07732]

I thought we knew this a couple weeks back

[Danielmaddie]

UF can now meet their max and sign 33 this recruiting cycle. With 27 commits, 6 spots available to reach 85 limit

[Lawdog88]

Good guys, best regards to them for their contributions and sacrifices to play football at UF. Good job.

I hope they prosper in the future.

[DieAGator]

UF can now meet their max and sign 33 this recruiting cycle. With 27 commits, 6 spots available to reach 85 limit

Yeah but boards getting awfully thin, doubt we can make that with quality. The 14 class probably has a large group of EEs.

[ArtDeco]

Was that officially the last of Urban's projects? If so, we are getting closer to this being truly Muschamp's team now. No offense to Alli, but I think his scholly encapsulates what had become wrong with our approach.

[g8rfan22]

Was that officially the last of Urban's projects? If so, we are getting closer to this being truly Muschamp's team now. No offense to Alli, but I think his scholly encapsulates what had become wrong with our approach.

He played ST & setbacks due to injuries so it's not as if his scholarship was all for nothing. Stephen had stress fractures in both legs that required rods to be implanted.

Unfortunately he was recruited by a different regime so he wasn't exactly what the Muschamp era was looking for.

I'm not knocking you post. I just wanted to give some info.

Go Gators!!

[gymgator]

Great that they are graduating. Alli never should have graduated HS early. If he had another year to develop, his prospects might look different.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

No offense to Alli, but I think his scholly encapsulates what had become wrong with our approach.

Go on ...

[akaijenkins1]

Alli's last play as a Gator, watch all the way through to the end. Pretty much encapsulates his time here, always giving his all, going about his work.

He was and will always be a great Gator: a good citizen, model student, and coachable athlete.


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[orangeblueorangeblue]

Yeah I really don't understand the "encapsulates what was wrong" comment.

Was it that he was a project? If so, yeah, those are always gambles. So was Brandon James.

Was it that he was in trouble all of the time? If so, I missed that.

[scrappygator]

Good video and exemplifies the good traits of Alli. Wish him well as well as Jordan and Johnson.

[ratongator]

Our roster has been a mess the past several years regarding transfers etc. I know every team as them but ours has been pathetic with all departures...

[gatorchamp27]

Yeah I really don't understand the "encapsulates what was wrong" comment.

Was it that he was a project? If so, yeah, those are always gambles. So was Brandon James.

Was it that he was in trouble all of the time? If so, I missed that.

Project. If I recall he hadnt played much football prior to us recruiting him

[akaijenkins1]

Good video and exemplifies the good traits of Alli. Wish him well as well as Jordan and Johnson.

You can pull every one of Debose' return touchdowns and find Alli blocking his ass off in every single one of them.

Here's another one, not as obvious as the Louisville clip but Alli is on the right side of the wedge, he seals his man off early in the return as Demps and Debose head down the alley at the bottom of the field (this is what the replay guy is speaking to when he says the Buckeyes got "walled off to the inside")

And when Debose runs across the end zone (:19 second mark), guess who's there to dap him up?

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I have no stock in Alli, just hate it when people sitting behind a keyboard cut down good, honest, hardworking kids who've been dedicated to the program.

[lurkingator1]

I could see taking another Olineman now maybe this explains the new name that recently appeared

[G8R92]

Great that they are graduating. Alli never should have graduated HS early. If he had another year to develop, his prospects might look different.

What's wrong with his prospects? He has a college degree from the University of Florida.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Project. If I recall he hadnt played much football prior to us recruiting him

Yeah, I figured, just wanted some clarification from him.

[corpgator]

Yeah but boards getting awfully thin, doubt we can make that with quality. The 14 class probably has a large group of EEs.

Quality shouldn't matter. We also say this is why we don't take the max and it always comes back to bite us. We've been playing for a decade with 5 fewer schollies because of attrition. It will happen next year too, so we should get as many bodies on campus as we can.

[gator1986]

Ok not like they were used

[Gator_84_88]

I think this is now 27 players gone from last year's team. Expect a very different team in 2013.

"Different" could mean better. Let's not begin pushing panic buttons now. geeesh.

[ArtDeco]

He played ST & setbacks due to injuries so it's not as if his scholarship was all for nothing. Stephen had stress fractures in both legs that required rods to be implanted.

Unfortunately he was recruited by a different regime so he wasn't exactly what the Muschamp era was looking for.

I'm not knocking you post. I just wanted to give some info.

Go Gators!!

No problem. Actually, I expected my post to be met with more criticism than that.
I certainly appreciate the effort of every single Gator who's ever worn the O&B. But just like it's now OK to critique the performance of Johnny B, I think it's fair to look at Alli and Kedric and the Class of 2009 and realize there were alot of gaps in that recruiting class. For years, we've been waiting for an elite WR. That year, when we had schollys to burn, we get a kid who never played football before. Why? Because he was tall, and he was athletic.
I waited four years for Alli (and Kedric, to a lesser degree) to bloom. It never happened, and I think Stephen would be OK with that assessment. I'm sure he gave his all, but if his graduation frees up room for a Demarcus Robinson clone, I think it's a win-win for everybody.
On a positive note, both are graduating, so they did make good use of the UF scholly. We should be proud of their off the field accomplishments.
Now, who thinks Muschamp saw their early graduation and had a little talk about their football future?

[ArtDeco]

Stephen had stress fractures in both legs that required rods to be implanted.


On a side note, can we please keep the aggressive doctors away from our cash cows? Rods? Stress fractures normally resolve with rest and/or cessation of the inciting trauma. Between him and Debose and Adam Allen, I have heard some weird s**t when it comes to Gator athletes. Funny how I never hear about congenital hamstring problems etc. with other schools' athletes.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Yeah but boards getting awfully thin, doubt we can make that with quality. The 14 class probably has a large group of EEs.

I mean, it's not critical that we play with 85 players on scholarship. GatorAZ made a good point a couple of weeks ago, that it's going to take a couple more recruiting cycles to get this thing back to where it needs to be. We've got quality players on scholarship, and if it takes another year-or two-to get the numbers where they need to be, that's okay.

We're fine. We have a lot of talented, quality guys in and on their way to Gainesville.

[The_Graygator]

Alli was a Meyer "project" player. Just didn't quite have what it took to climb that depth chart. Wish him and the other guys well.

[UFLAW81]

He played ST & setbacks due to injuries so it's not as if his scholarship was all for nothing. Stephen had stress fractures in both legs that required rods to be implanted.

Unfortunately he was recruited by a different regime so he wasn't exactly what the Muschamp era was looking for.

I'm not knocking you post. I just wanted to give some info.

Go Gators!!

Better suited for the flip and trip.
This program is much better off in 2013, even with the Zookgar Bowl loss.

[rserina]

Our roster has been a mess the past several years regarding transfers etc. I know every team as them but ours has been pathetic with all departures...
That's what happens in a coaching transition. It happened under Zook, Meyer, and now Muschamp. It pretty much happens everywhere.

[g8rfan22]

On a side note, can we please keep the aggressive doctors away from our cash cows? Rods? Stress fractures normally resolve with rest and/or cessation of the inciting trauma. Between him and Debose and Adam Allen, I have heard some weird s**t when it comes to Gator athletes. Funny how I never hear about congenital hamstring problems etc. with other schools' athletes.

He had multiple fractures in both legs. Know him personally. He said that post-op was no fun...

[SECund2nun]

Our roster has been a mess the past several years regarding transfers etc. I know every team as them but ours has been pathetic with all departures...

This will result in signing more players. From a football standpoint this actually helps us. These 3 players were good Gators, but not good players. It sounds like Muschamp might encourage the unproductive to leave the team.

[gatorfan96]

Did Kedric ever get on the field? I don't remember him ever playing

[g8rfan22]

This will result in signing more players. From a football standpoint this actually helps us. These 3 players were good Gators, but not good players. It sounds like Muschamp might encourage the unproductive to leave the team.

Position coaches have been "encouraging" players to seek other opportunities.

[iam4uf]

They just keep dropping like flies!

lol, what? Two graduated & one can't play anymore due to a chronic injury. I don't see anyone "dropping".

[ArtDeco]

Position coaches have been "encouraging" players to seek other opportunities.

Entirely fair IMO. There are requirements for academic schollys, should have requirements for athletic ones, too. Don't progress beyond kickoff team...BOOM, lost scholly.
My academic scholly had pretty lofty requirements that got HIGHER every year or you got booted out. Oops, not booted out, I meant "encouraged to seek other opportunities" LOL

[UGator]

Congrats to all for their work toward degrees and for hanging in there due to injury that eliminated some from playing. Anyone seen Patchan or where he might wind up?

At least a third of every recruiting class, who initially look good on paper, just don't make it on the field. That's life in the recruiting world.

Maybe we need to check out Bama's "analysts" who study every HS player of interest and their strengths/weaknesses before recruiting them. Even Meyer said on the NC game telecast that Bama seems to have better players than everyone else.

One thing for sure, Bama seems to develop their players better than everyone else.

[pcolafan]

You can pull every one of Debose' return touchdowns and find Alli blocking his ass off in every single one of them.

Here's another one, not as obvious as the Louisville clip but Alli is on the right side of the wedge, he seals his man off early in the return as Demps and Debose head down the alley at the bottom of the field (this is what the replay guy is speaking to when he says the Buckeyes got "walled off to the inside")

And when Debose runs across the end zone (:19 second mark), guess who's there to dap him up?

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I have no stock in Alli, just hate it when people sitting behind a keyboard cut down good, honest, hardworking kids who've been dedicated to the program.

Good Posting! There is a lot that goes into winning or losing a football game. Much of the glory goes to the guy holding the ball.

[tommyvee]

Alli should've been on an academic scholarship. Dude was quite a mathlete coming out of high school.

[The_Graygator]

Wonder if they're being politely encouraged to transfer because Muschamp knows he can fill 33 spots this year?

I don't mean that to sound rude, but it's a valid question.

[candymanfromgc]

Expect Quenton Powell back in the fold.

[missourigator]

I know it makes our team better. And the Bama system seems to be working fine. But if a high senior signs with the Gators and wants to be a Gator, because the coach made a mistake on his over-all ability I don't like the fact that they are "encouraged' to leave. If they want to stay Gators then they should stay.

[rserina]

Muschamp said Alii will remain with the program working in the front office or weight room. Johnson graduated and wants to play elsewhere. Jordan is on hardship. I don't think there are any shifting shadows with this stuff.

[wiene2003]

I know it makes our team better. And the Bama system seems to be working fine. But if a high senior signs with the Gators and wants to be a Gator, because the coach made a mistake on his over-all ability I don't like the fact that they are "encouraged' to leave. If they want to stay Gators then they should stay.

I agree with you to an extent, but I just don't think it's as black and white as that. My feelings would change depending on conduct, overall attitude, etc. but yes, if the encouragement is strictly based on talent level and the coaches didn't evaluate right, then I think it's wrong.

But like rserina said, these 3 incidences don't bother me. 2 graduated and the other will still be on scholarship, so they will all get what they were 'promised', a free education at the University of Florida.

[madgator]

Alli was big and fast....was a great blocker on both special teams and on the flanks going all the way back to the Meyer days.

could never understand why he never became a receiving threat.

[rserina]

I think with Alii it was just a system issue. He was recruiting for the U/Y inside spot in our old system, but moving to more two receiver looks the last few years has hurt him. He came to the game sort of late and never had the route running skills you need at this level to some degree.

[gatorkarl]

Always very happy to see guys graduating, I hope Jordan continues with his school and leaves with a degree, well done to Alli and Johnson.

[SkyChimp]

I think this is now 27 players gone from last year's team. Expect a very different team in 2013.

True but Muschamp is stacking us up on recruits

[StrangeGator]

I don't think Alli started playing football until he transferred to Proctor and repeated his sophomore year of high school. He was a D1 prospect in both track and basketball, but seemed to have a better future in football. He did well enough in school that he was able to reclassify and enter UF without going one more year at Proctor, so he basically had only two years of football in his life. He might have had a better chance at UF if he'd waited a year. The scholarship was there either way. Nice to know he's sticking around to work in the office.