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ih8danoles
01-17-2013, 02:38 PM
is the new DC. I'm okay with it.

Itssaul
01-17-2013, 02:41 PM
He's no quinn.

What's the Average shelf life for UF coaches? 2 years?

Gatorgal04
01-17-2013, 02:42 PM
Link? Or did you mean to say "if"?

orangeblueorangeblue
01-17-2013, 02:42 PM
2 years? I wish.

rserina
01-17-2013, 02:42 PM
He's no quinn.

What's the Average shelf life for UF coaches? 2 years?
How do you know? He has never been a defensive coordinator. Quinn had only been a coordinator for one year (at Hofstra) before he came here.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 02:44 PM
I am not sure about this one. CWM better get one hell of a Dline coach

GatorAvatar
01-17-2013, 02:45 PM
I am good with this - Durkin has been loyal and he deserves to be rewarded.

LimeyGator
01-17-2013, 02:45 PM
How do you know? He has never been a defensive coordinator. Quinn had only been a coordinator for one year (at Hofstra) before he came here.

I agree with you entirely.

I can see the boo-birds using this as ammunition though. Mind you, they'd find ammunition for anyone...

If it's true (lots of rumblings on social media amongst the Gator Reporteratii that it's the case) then I like it. Continuity. It's what we need above all else...

Itssaul
01-17-2013, 02:45 PM
How do you know? He has never been a defensive coordinator. Quinn had only been a coordinator for one year (at Hofstra) before he came here.

Time will tell. Although too many changed variables to accurately compare.

However, our Dline was probably the strongest it's been in a long time. Including a first rounder. And the emergence of McCray and Hunter can be attributed to Quinn,

PIMking
01-17-2013, 02:46 PM
is the new DC. I'm okay with it.

you're gonna have to be okay with it

orangeblueorangeblue
01-17-2013, 02:46 PM
I don't think it matters much as long as Muschamp is the head coach.

Brewski
01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
Link? Or did you mean to say "if"?

UF released it on twitter.

Briang8r
01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
I am not sure about this one. CWM better get one hell of a Dline coach

I thought Durkin coached ST.

Itssaul
01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
I thought Durkin coached ST.

ST/ LB I think...

rserina
01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
Time will tell. Although too many changed variables to accurately compare.

However, our Dline was probably the strongest it's been in a long time. Including a first rounder. And the emergence of McCray and Hunter can be attributed to Quinn,
Why not Young? I agree that Quinn was very well-respected a line coach in the league and his coming here much to do with the impending work stoppage in NFL. But there is no way to tell how good of a coordinator Durkin will be. As I said in another thread, I think this means Muschamp takes a more active role in defensive game prep and calling signals.

gator85jd
01-17-2013, 02:48 PM
If Durkin is DC, who coaches special teams?

gator85jd
01-17-2013, 02:49 PM
ST/ LB I think...

Yes.

socraticsilence
01-17-2013, 02:49 PM
I am good with this - Durkin has been loyal and he deserves to be rewarded.

Isn't this basically the sentiment that led to Addazio becoming the OC in 09?

demosthenes
01-17-2013, 02:50 PM
Underwhelmed.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 02:50 PM
I thought Durkin coached ST.

Durkin was the LB coach and ST coach. Quinn was the DC but him and Young worked with the DL. Quinn is known as one of the best DL coaches in football. What FLorida will miss most his Quinn's work with the DL. So now we need another DL coach I would think. CWM might have a different idea

demosthenes
01-17-2013, 02:51 PM
Isn't this basically the sentiment that led to Addazio becoming the OC in 09?

I guess one difference is that the Dazzler was the Dazzler.

Itssaul
01-17-2013, 02:51 PM
Why not Young? I agree that Quinn was very well-respected a line coach in the league and his coming here much to do with the impending work stoppage in NFL. But there is no way to tell how good of a coordinator Durkin will be. As I said in another thread, I think this means Muschamp takes a more active role in defensive game prep and calling signals.

McCray specifically said it was Quinn that helped him improve so much.

And yeah he could be good, but he could not.

Let's hope he's solid so he stay for at Least 3 years.

rserina
01-17-2013, 02:51 PM
Isn't this basically the sentiment that led to Addazio becoming the OC in 09?
Well, the situations must be equivalent then. Has nothing to do with Durkin's competence, with his contribution to game prep, with his success coordinating the special teams or developing his linebackers.

revthejedi
01-17-2013, 02:53 PM
Trusting CWM has worked so far, DJ must be ready if Coach is handing him the reins.

socraticsilence
01-17-2013, 02:55 PM
Well, the situations must be equivalent then. Has nothing to do with Durkin's competence, with his contribution to game prep, with his success coordinating the special teams or developing his linebackers.

Oh I agree it could be different its more the "he paid his dues its his time" thing I was objecting to. Also his defense the Dazz was one hell of a line coach and did help in the areas you mentioned.

FloridaxGators1
01-17-2013, 02:55 PM
http://www.gatorzone.com/mobile/news/24657

gator85jd
01-17-2013, 02:55 PM
Trusting CWM has worked so far, DJ must be ready if Coach is handing him the reins.

Plus Muschamp is going to be working along side him. Unlike the Dazzler, who was running the show by himself for a season.

revthejedi
01-17-2013, 03:01 PM
#UF may hire Vernon Hargreaves II as its special teams coordinator & defensive ends coach. He held same position at #USF last year. -Zach's Twitter

hmmm...

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 03:02 PM
#UF may hire Vernon Hargreaves II as its special teams coordinator & defensive ends coach. He held same position at #USF last year. -Zach's Twitter

hmmm...

I would have no problem with that hire (I know my opinion doesn't matter) . I was just searching last week to see if VH2 had taken another job.

AFCyberGator
01-17-2013, 03:02 PM
DJ Durkin deserves a shot. It will be a matter of time before he gets plucked for another job. The Gators might as well tap into his expertise before he picks up and leaves for another school that will give him better opportunities. I believe Will Muschamp thinks the same thing. He supports his coaches taking opportunities wherever they may be.

mikehev
01-17-2013, 03:04 PM
Pretty sure WMC is to UFs D-coordinator what Chip Kelly was to Oregon's O-Coordinator. Not worried.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

rserina
01-17-2013, 03:04 PM
I would have no problem with that hire (I know my opinion doesn't matter) . I was just searching last week to see if VH2 had taken another job.
I have never been a fan of hiring family members of players. Heck, I would never want one of my kids to work for me.

gatorbogey
01-17-2013, 03:04 PM
DJ will be learning the ropes from one of the best, imo: Muschamp.
we might have some misses and bumps along the way. and most likely once DJ becomes damn good for us, he'll be head coaching or nfl dc mat'l - and likely moving on himself! ouch!

GatorAvatar
01-17-2013, 03:05 PM
Isn't this basically the sentiment that led to Addazio becoming the OC in 09?

Alternative will be to hire another guy who will stay for 2 years and bolt.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 03:07 PM
Alternative will be to hire another guy who will stay for 2 years and bolt.

DJ will probably be gone in 2 -3 years

phideltdj
01-17-2013, 03:07 PM
Maybe if I wash towels for the UF football team in two years I could parlay that into a coordinator position for another program. UF has become a stepping stone program for coaches lately.

Tebowism0823
01-17-2013, 03:10 PM
DJ will probably be gone in 2 -3 years

With all the turnover you may be correct. Where's the Bud Fosters of the world....lol

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 03:10 PM
I have never been a fan of hiring family members of players. Heck, I would never want one of my kids to work for me.

I think those two could handle it plus he is not VH3 position coach. I would still like to have a NFL guy like Travis Jones of New Orleans but VH2 would make a lot of sense.

gatorchamp27
01-17-2013, 03:12 PM
I would have no problem with that hire (I know my opinion doesn't matter) . I was just searching last week to see if VH2 had taken another job.

I think we need to find another DL line coach and ST coach as well. Could be an intriguing hire. Gotta be careful hiring family members though.

The_Graygator
01-17-2013, 03:23 PM
is the new DC. I'm okay with it.


Actually, I'm not. We don't need a learning curve assistant during what will most likely be a serious shot at a NC season in 2013. We needed an experienced veteran coaching the D next season.

This wasn't a wise promotion IMO, but I hope Durkin proves me wrong.

akaijenkins1
01-17-2013, 03:26 PM
Durkin is legit.

Has been endorsed by Harbaugh, Meyer, both winners, and now Muschamp, on his way to being a winner.

For Harbaugh he coached Ends and ST, and here he took Jelani, Bostic, and unheralded Morrison and made them all studs. Both kickers under his tutelage were All-Americans this year, Florida rarely if ever surrendered return yards to other teams and at times have been explosive in returns themselves.

See this post for more on Durkin: http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/1/17/3887702/dj-durkin-florida-defensive-coordinator

Lawdog88
01-17-2013, 03:31 PM
What does Young coach ?

619_Gator
01-17-2013, 03:31 PM
VHII has a damn good coaching resume. He was at Miami and coached some pretty good LB's.

gator1986
01-17-2013, 03:32 PM
I'm not worried at all, durkin will be gone in 3 years mark my words... Why? Simply because Muschamp will groom him to be one of the best D Coordinator...

gatorbait1
01-17-2013, 03:33 PM
The good thing is that we will be in the same defense system without changing again and I think champ will have his hand on it more than he did last year. I just hope were more aggressive with blitz' this coming year. My concern is now that we lost Quinn, that means were down 1 coach. Is d.j gonna do st or linebacker + d cordnator???? We need to hire 1 more coach just to make up for the staff

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 03:39 PM
The good thing is that we will be in the same defense system without changing again and I think champ will have his hand on it more than he did last year. I just hope were more aggressive with blitz' this coming year. My concern is now that we lost Quinn, that means were down 1 coach. Is d.j gonna do st or linebacker + d cordnator???? We need to hire 1 more coach just to make up for the staff

Why more blitzing?

ThePlayer
01-17-2013, 03:40 PM
I am good with this - Durkin has been loyal and he deserves to be rewarded.

Then he should cut his teeth with Bowling Green...not the Florida Gators.
Steve Spurrier is thrilled with this hire.

gator85jd
01-17-2013, 03:40 PM
What does Young coach ?

DL

GatorSean
01-17-2013, 03:50 PM
It's a good hire.

This is Muschamp's defense, and that's not going to change. If you bring in somebody from the outside, either they, or the entire defense is going to have to learn it from scratch. This way the scheme won't have to be learned by anybody, and Durkin has been consistently talked about as one of the best coaches (and recruiters) on the staff.

Didn't Meyer want him as the Co-DC at OSU?

GataBaitx3
01-17-2013, 03:51 PM
is the new DC. I'm okay with it.

What a pull!! Where'd they find him?

Jaggator
01-17-2013, 03:52 PM
I am not sure about this one. CWM better get one hell of a Dline coach

:huh: Bryant Young is the current DL coach.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 03:54 PM
:huh: Bryant Young is the current DL coach.

Quinn was a DL coach as well

gatorbait1
01-17-2013, 04:08 PM
Why more blitzing?

Because it was something I think we lacked last year(pressure on the qb). Quinn/champ did a great job of total defense obviously but personally they like to rush just our 4 down lineman and get pressure that way but I think more blitzing and getting pressure on the qb especially with Floyd/Elam/bostic/Jenkins gone we need take away the time for qb to pick us apart....IMO

akaijenkins1
01-17-2013, 04:09 PM
VHII has a damn good coaching resume. He was at Miami and coached some pretty good LB's.

Didn't know much about him aside from being VH3's dad, good to hear that.

Has he officially been hired?

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 04:14 PM
Because it was something I think we lacked last year(pressure on the qb). Quinn/champ did a great job of total defense obviously but personally they like to rush just our 4 down lineman and get pressure that way but I think more blitzing and getting pressure on the qb especially with Floyd/Elam/bostic/Jenkins gone we need take away the time for qb to pick us apart....IMO

I think we did a decent job with rushing 4. I do understand where you are coming from but I dont think the philosophy will change. We should have a better pass rush with 4 in 2013.

g8rfan22
01-17-2013, 04:22 PM
ST/ LB I think...

You are correct...

geauxgator1
01-17-2013, 04:34 PM
I don't think it matters much as long as Muschamp is the head coach.

This.. as long he's there the D will be well coached.

Tebowism0823
01-17-2013, 04:40 PM
Actually, I'm not. We don't need a learning curve assistant during what will most likely be a serious shot at a NC season in 2013. We needed an experienced veteran coaching the D next season.

This wasn't a wise promotion IMO, but I hope Durkin proves me wrong.

Muschamp is in control of the defense so its a safe promotion. Durkin knows what's expected and they have a great working relationship.

Tebowism0823
01-17-2013, 04:41 PM
I'm not worried at all, durkin will be gone in 3 years mark my words... Why? Simply because Muschamp will groom him to be one of the best D Coordinator...

I agree he'll be gone most likely but I assume you mean for a head coaching position.

ETGator1
01-17-2013, 05:02 PM
Seemless - Smooth - Uneventful - Obviously expected due to swiftness of decisions - I like it as we're back to normal in the time frame of two hours.

Danielmaddie
01-17-2013, 05:22 PM
DJ deserves the promotion. As was with Quinn, its a 50/50 split between whoever is DC and Muschamp so nothing is going to change and its going to be a smooth transition. I'm sure DJ could have already been a coordinator somewhere else but he was loyal and stuck it out and he should be commended. Plus I think he is our best recruiter

DSRrg
01-17-2013, 05:23 PM
I am not sure about this one. CWM better get one hell of a Dline coach

Isn't Bryant Young our DLine coach?

Tebowism0823
01-17-2013, 05:33 PM
Isn't Bryant Young our DLine coach?

They shared the duty.

Lawdog88
01-17-2013, 05:38 PM
Quinn was a DL coach as well


So Young - who pro-bowled in the position(s) - ought to be able to teach the kids as effectively as Quinn, one would think.

Hate to lose Quinn, of course, but I see no drop off, IMO, and that should be obvious to all.

Gator4Christ
01-17-2013, 05:42 PM
Does Young stay once position opens up with Seattle?

demosthenes
01-17-2013, 05:59 PM
So Young - who pro-bowled in the position(s) - ought to be able to teach the kids as effectively as Quinn, one would think.

Hate to lose Quinn, of course, but I see no drop off, IMO, and that should be obvious to all.

Since when does physical ability equate to coaching ability? Where are all the hall of famers in the coaching ranks? The coaching pool should be replete with them and yet they're not there.

The_Graygator
01-17-2013, 06:04 PM
DJ deserves the promotion. As was with Quinn, its a 50/50 split between whoever is DC and Muschamp so nothing is going to change and its going to be a smooth transition. I'm sure DJ could have already been a coordinator somewhere else but he was loyal and stuck it out and he should be commended. Plus I think he is our best recruiter


Listen, I've liked everything Muschamp has done so far but I can't shake the feeling that this was a mistake promotion.

I hope it all turns out for the best, but I have a bad feeling this is another "Addazio" in-staff type promotion that's going to bite us.

tommyuf21
01-17-2013, 06:05 PM
DJ will probably be gone in 2 -3 years

As much as I like continuity, I would rather see coaches leaving because they have earned a better job through their performance.

I hate to see Quinn leave, but I'd rather see it happen under these circumstance as opposed to the way Willie Martinez left the Poodles.

flwgator2
01-17-2013, 06:11 PM
Listen, I've liked everything Muschamp has done so far but I can't shake the feeling that this was a mistake promotion.

I hope it all turns out for the best, but I have a bad feeling this is another "Addazio" in-staff type promotion that's going to bite us.

Let's hope for another Kirby Smart.

mikehev
01-17-2013, 06:14 PM
Listen, I've liked everything Muschamp has done so far but I can't shake the feeling that this was a mistake promotion.

I hope it all turns out for the best, but I have a bad feeling this is another "Addazio" in-staff type promotion that's going to bite us.

I think the difference is that WM calls most of the plays on defense. In other words, Quinn's play-calling relied more on WM's guidance than the other way around.

We should be fine.

This would be like Oregon losing their OC instead of losing Chip Kelly.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

MadduxFanII
01-17-2013, 06:17 PM
A certain amount of coaching turnover, like a certain number of early NFL entrees, is a good thing for a program. Or, more accurately, it says something good about your program. You need elite players and coaches to win titles, and elite players and coaches tend not to stick around very long. We got spoiled with Charlie Strong, but sadly you can only rely on stupid, close-minded ADs for so long before someone figures out a guy can coach. Two years is definitely on the low end of what you can hope for, but Quinn coordinated two outstanding college defenses and has experience at the NFL level. We were never keeping him for very long.

Now, we've undergone more coaching turmoil than is even remotely desirable. Some of that was associated with the head coach transition, and that's the kind of coaching turnover a successful program never wants. A little stability would be nice.

gatordee
01-17-2013, 06:19 PM
Do we forget that WM was an awesome DC for years? If he promoted him to DC, then obviously he likes what he has seen from him.

Jaggator
01-17-2013, 06:29 PM
This isn't exactly chump change...

"Quinn signed an amended contract with UF last February that ran through the 2013 season. His annual salary was going to be increased from $490,000 to $510,000 on Feb. 1. And if Quinn had stayed on the job until Jan. 31, 2014, he would have received a bonus of $80,000."

gatorbait1
01-17-2013, 06:32 PM
Since when does physical ability equate to coaching ability? Where are all the hall of famers in the coaching ranks? The coaching pool should be replete with them and yet they're not there.

Yeah I hear ya but he has been coached before and made it to be a pro bowler off of talent and coaching,etc. plus he has been teaching/coaching alongside Quinn the last 2 years. The guy knows football and if champ didn't think he could handle, don't u think there would be a change????

sleeze
01-17-2013, 07:30 PM
I like the promotion. DJ is a great coach. he is a fiery coach and will fit in the mold of Muschamp.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 07:32 PM
So Young - who pro-bowled in the position(s) - ought to be able to teach the kids as effectively as Quinn, one would think.

Hate to lose Quinn, of course, but I see no drop off, IMO, and that should be obvious to all.

Young has only been a coach for a few years. We are losing a lot of experience with Quinn leaving.

horanic
01-17-2013, 07:33 PM
I think the difference is that WM calls most of the plays on defense. In other words, Quinn's play-calling relied more on WM's guidance than the other way around.

We should be fine.

This would be like Oregon losing their OC instead of losing Chip Kelly.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

Or Boise losing Brent Pease...LOL.

Tebowism0823
01-17-2013, 07:37 PM
Young has only been a coach for a few years. We are losing a lot of experience with Quinn leaving.

Coaching experience and playing experience should be good enough.

Wormwood56
01-17-2013, 07:38 PM
Muschamp is in control of the defense so its a safe promotion. Durkin knows what's expected and they have a great working relationship.

Agree. I think Durkin is in a perfect position. Who at Alabama would cringe if Kirby Smart left for the NFL? And it will probably be similar to Addazio in 2010 because no one can seriously believe that Addazio worked independently as OC without interference. That had Meyer's fingerprints all over it, as all of Meyer's offenses have...

Wormwood56
01-17-2013, 07:45 PM
Then he should cut his teeth with Bowling Green...not the Florida Gators.
Steve Spurrier is thrilled with this hire.

Lessee.

Spurrier's offenses at USCe, 2011-2: 74th and 81st
Muschamp's defenses at UF, 2011-2: 9th and 5th

USCe yards gained, 2011-12: 299 and 191.

I think I'd bet on Muschamp...

Lawdog88
01-17-2013, 08:17 PM
Since when does physical ability equate to coaching ability? Where are all the hall of famers in the coaching ranks? The coaching pool should be replete with them and yet they're not there.


So why did we hire the guy then ?

Riddle me that.

GATORAZ
01-17-2013, 08:36 PM
I would think this hire would be done pretty soon like in the next week. I like the choices of VH2 or Travis Jones.

619_Gator
01-17-2013, 09:21 PM
I Like VH2. Has coached both LB's and DE's elsewhere.

rserina
01-17-2013, 09:23 PM
Lessee.

Spurrier's offenses at USCe, 2011-2: 74th and 81st
Muschamp's defenses at UF, 2011-2: 9th and 5th

USCe yards gained, 2011-12: 299 and 191.

I think I'd bet on Muschamp...
Seriously. Some are still living in the 90s, wearing their jean shorts to class and all.

baygator1
01-17-2013, 09:38 PM
ST/ LB I think...

He's coached DEs before as well at stops prior to UF. And he's one hell of a recruiter.

gtr2x
01-17-2013, 10:52 PM
Lessee.

Spurrier's offenses at USCe, 2011-2: 74th and 81st
Muschamp's defenses at UF, 2011-2: 9th and 5th

USCe yards gained, 2011-12: 299 and 191.

I think I'd bet on Muschamp...

Pretty much irrelevant comparison. I think I would bet on the team with the best players.

socraticsilence
01-17-2013, 10:55 PM
Lessee.

Spurrier's offenses at USCe, 2011-2: 74th and 81st
Muschamp's defenses at UF, 2011-2: 9th and 5th

USCe yards gained, 2011-12: 299 and 191.

I think I'd bet on Muschamp...

I know you're not comparing Boom to Spurrier right, because that'd be crazy.

socraticsilence
01-17-2013, 10:56 PM
So why did we hire the guy then ?

Riddle me that.

Good for recruiting and because he might be ready for a fulltime role eventually.

ovillegator
01-17-2013, 10:59 PM
Since when does physical ability equate to coaching ability? Where are all the hall of famers in the coaching ranks? The coaching pool should be replete with them and yet they're not there.

Well, we had one who had won a Heisman trophy, and he's done okay.

:joecool:

demosthenes
01-17-2013, 11:01 PM
So why did we hire the guy then ?

Riddle me that.

Again, I'm not saying he's not a good coach. Only that his physical prowess in the NFL doesn't guarantee him being a great coach. Moreover, just because he might not be as good as Quinn, it doesn't mean he is unhirable.

Swampmaster
01-17-2013, 11:11 PM
I am good with this - Durkin has been loyal and he deserves to be rewarded.

if you are "loyal" that qualifies you for the defensive coordinator job? :whoa:

MadduxFanII
01-17-2013, 11:13 PM
Seriously. Some are still living in the 90s, wearing their jean shorts to class and all.

Am I...am I not supposed to be wearing jean shorts? What about my jean jacket?

UGator
01-18-2013, 05:32 AM
Coach Durkin has paid his dues and is our best recruiter and will help with Muschamp's defense. It is still Muschamp's defense and no change in philosophy is necessary.

Coach Quinn was a pro coach and wouldn't have been here long anyway and probably did not embrace recruiting like Durkin. Quinn is a great communicator before the players and press and will be missed, but his heart was elsewhere and the pay raise at Seattle will probably double his salary.

My main concern now is that we don't lose Young who was coached by Quinn and seems to relate to DE's and DL's and has a great resume as an NFL player.

PSGator66
01-18-2013, 08:24 AM
Durkin is our best recruiter and has excelled as a position coach so I say good promotion. Mushchamp is the main D - coach anyway you slice it.

proud_poppa
01-18-2013, 08:38 AM
DJ was the very first UF coach that I met. He came across as inteligent, driven and the kind of man that I would like to have working with my son. I'm very happy for him to get this promotion, but as I texted him, he will be missed on special teams. UF's focus on excelling at all aspects of special teams was evident in most of our wins this past season. It's more that Kyle being able to boom a 50-60 yard punt, it's teaching the guys on ST how to cover! Same w/ kick offs and returns. Like I've perviously said about punting, there's more to it that the average fan will ever know or understand.

Congrats DJ! I wish you nothing bet success!

GatorAvatar
01-18-2013, 10:13 AM
DJ will probably be gone in 2 -3 years

You obviously mean to be a HC?

gatorsfan530
01-18-2013, 06:04 PM
Then he should cut his teeth with Bowling Green...not the Florida Gators.
Steve Spurrier is thrilled with this hire.

So the guy doesn't even deserve a chance, huh?

fox
01-18-2013, 06:33 PM
Really like his energy and enthusiasm.

GATORAZ
01-18-2013, 08:55 PM
You obviously mean to be a HC?

If the team plays as well as I think it will the next two years DJ should be in line for head coaching job. It will probably not be as big as some people think he deserves but he will probably take it (fans thought the Kentucky job was too small for Pease which is laughable). I could maybe see him taking another DC job but it would have to be at a school like Texas or Ohio State.

GatorAvatar
01-19-2013, 12:02 PM
I could maybe see him taking another DC job but it would have to be at a school like Texas or Ohio State.

To pad his resume?

rserina
01-19-2013, 12:08 PM
Am I...am I not supposed to be wearing jean shorts? What about my jean jacket?
Jean jackets were so 80s. We're Florida, damn it: we live in the 90s.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 01:21 PM
To pad his resume?

The money would be better but more or less to run his own defense. I am not saying it will happen but that is an option he would have to look at if it presented itself.

cstgator
01-19-2013, 05:35 PM
This board is a riot. First of all, NONE of you know anything about what happens "behind the scenes." DJ Durkin may very well be considered the next young prodigy of coaching, and he may have turned down overtures by lessor programs in the past, we just don't know. I can't say for sure but I'd bet it was common knowledge among those in high ranks with the UF AD knew that Quinn would bolt for an NFL job sooner rather than later.

Something tells me Quinn's departure was no surprise to Muschamp and he had picked out Durkin to be the next DC well in advance. In such a short timeframe, I doubt that Muschamp even tried to hire a veteran DC -- instead he went straight to Durkin. This tells me he is of utmost confidence in the man. And I don't think Muschamp is one to have delusions about job stability at a program like UF -- I'm sure he realizes that his job could be on the line if Durkin flops and the defense costs UF a couple of high-stakes SEC games.

StrangeGator
01-19-2013, 07:53 PM
Not going to weigh in on his potential as DC, but Durkin's promotion probably kept a lot of commits from bailing on us. Durkin and Young are the guys the recruits gravitate to most. Durkin might be a bit of a figure head at first, but with a strong group of position coaches, he should do fine and continue to grow as a big time collegiate DC.

bofusgators
01-19-2013, 08:04 PM
I think Durkin is going to step up and be a very good good coach for the
gators in his new position.

RealGatorFan
01-19-2013, 09:16 PM
Muschamp could have made Smart his DC and it wouldn't matter - Muschamp has always and will be the DC.

bofusgators
01-19-2013, 09:28 PM
Based on prior efforts, Muschamp will make an excellent decision on who is hired and we'll continue to move upward. Personally we've got one hell of a staff headed by Will Muschamp.

AuldG8R
01-19-2013, 10:00 PM
Didn't DJ turn down a HC job at Western Michigan (http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=251535)? I believe the LB and ST play has been outstanding this year. Wasn't DJ one of only two coaches that Muschamp kept from the previous staff? All in all I think he has proven himself to be a pretty good coach thus far.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 10:24 PM
Didn't DJ turn down a HC job at Western Michigan (http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=251535)? I believe the LB and ST play has been outstanding this year. Wasn't DJ one of only two coaches that Muschamp kept from the previous staff? All in all I think he has proven himself to be a pretty good coach thus far.

He did but there is zero reason to take that job. Special teams had some problems especially in kick protection. I was impressed that the LB's were more physical this year but wasn't blown away by their play. I think some of the more physical play came from Quinn. DJ should be fine because CWM will be very involved.

rserina
01-19-2013, 10:33 PM
He did but there is zero reason to take that job. Special teams had some problems especially in kick protection. I was impressed that the LB's were more physical this year but wasn't blown away by their play. I think some of the more physical play came from Quinn. DJ should be fine because CWM will be very involved.
Pretty dour assessment. I think the work he did with Ball and Kitchens was outstanding, as well as getting Morrison ready to play. Special teams on the whole were extraordinary, despite not having a return man to speak of. I like the clue. No clue if he will make it as a coordinator, but see no reason to think he can't.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 11:05 PM
Pretty dour assessment. I think the work he did with Ball and Kitchens was outstanding, as well as getting Morrison ready to play. Special teams on the whole were extraordinary, despite not having a return man to speak of. I like the clue. No clue if he will make it as a coordinator, but see no reason to think he can't.

I am not saying he is a bad coach I just haven't been impressed with the LB play. Morrison was all over the place last year. We had kicks being blocked on special teams and that should not happen. I do like the trick plays that were called and executed well. I am really not worried about DJ as a DC because I know CWM is running the ship. The main thing I am worried about is the DL play because of losing Quinn.

DieAGator
01-19-2013, 11:15 PM
I don't think of myself as disappointed with the hire but admittedly the loss of Dan Quinn then promotion of Coach Durkin doesn't have a lot of sizzle. But that doesn't mean DJD isn't up to it. Am concerned we lost a good position coach; not clear how much the D worked because of his play calling. Would like to know how much Coach Muschamp is involved with the D. We finished the season with Rush Defense ranked 4th, Pass efficiency D 2nd, Total D 5th, Scoring D 5th. It's reasonable to wonder how much of that we can hang on to or what/who made that happen.

Jaggator
01-19-2013, 11:33 PM
I am not saying he is a bad coach I just haven't been impressed with the LB play. Morrison was all over the place last year. We had kicks being blocked on special teams and that should not happen. I do like the trick plays that were called and executed well. I am really not worried about DJ as a DC because I know CWM is running the ship. The main thing I am worried about is the DL play because of losing Quinn.

Isn't the DL more Bryant Young coaching the players and them looking up to him than they did Quinn? Yes, Quinn had overall total responsibility holding the title DC along with Muschamp but as long as Young stays I'm not worried. I know you said earlier that Quinn also coached the DL but I don't know just how involved he was.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 11:38 PM
Isn't the DL more Bryant Young coaching the players and them looking up to him than they did Quinn? Yes, Quinn had overall total responsibility holding the title DC along with Muschamp but as long as Young stays I'm not worried.

Quinn is known as one of the best DL coaches in all of football College and Pro. Young is in his 3rd year of coaching. I tend to believe it was mostly Quinn. CWM has talked about Quinn's ability to teach the DL all year. You might not be worried but I certainly am.

JohnC1908
01-20-2013, 01:21 AM
Quinn is known as one of the best DL coaches in all of football College and Pro. Young is in his 3rd year of coaching. I tend to believe it was mostly Quinn. CWM has talked about Quinn's ability to teach the DL all year. You might not be worried but I certainly am.
My main problem with you is you said you stated an opinion so people would stop stating a opinion.

GATORAZ
01-20-2013, 01:35 AM
My main problem with you is you said you stated an opinion so people would stop stating a opinion.

what?

WillyG8r
01-20-2013, 08:28 AM
You know, we have a HC that knows a thing or tw about bein a DC.....something tells me we'll b fineon D. Now, if we can get someone to coach-up our arting QB...