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mastoidbone
01-14-2013, 10:18 PM
Obama has a history of tolerating anti-semites.....how far will he go with this one? Will he give tanks and war planes to the man who now heads that country?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/world/middleeast/egypts-leader-morsi-made-anti-jewish-slurs.html?hp&_r=0

Nearly three years ago, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood delivered a speech urging Egyptians to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. In a television interview around that time, the same leader described Zionists as “these bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs.”

That leader, Mohamed Morsi, is now president of Egypt — and his comments may be coming back to haunt him

Row6
01-14-2013, 10:41 PM
Anyone who is president of the US and deals with Arabs has a "history of tolerating anti-semites". Ever hear of a place called Saudi Arabia?

mastoidbone
01-14-2013, 10:56 PM
Last I read---we were not giving Saudi 1 billion in aid, or giving them free weapon systems....two things obama seems most eager to do----while embracing a man who holds vile thoughts about million of american jews......didn't bother him much for 20 years when his preacher said these things either....doesnt seem to bother him much now.

I guess it is asking too much to ask him to denounce these words before giving him free killing machines and a billion dollars in aid.....

I guess the MORE you renounce jews, the more tanks Obama will give you.

Why would Obama give 200 tanks to a nation on the border of a jewish israel? whose military leader slurs jews on TV???

just wondering...he seems VERY comfortable with anti-semites.....while he does NOT appear to be one, he sure keeps odd company....

ChartsandGrafs
01-14-2013, 11:00 PM
Anti-Zionism ≠ Anti-Semitism

Just as...

Anti-Nazism ≠ Anti-Germanism

Zionism is a nationalist and somewhat supremacist political ideology, not too much unlike Nazism.

Unfortunately, the American people are largely brainwashed to conflate Zionism with Judaism, but they are not the same. That's why when they hear the word 'Zionism' their brain shuts down and they go into their Pavlovian "that's antisemitic!" mode. They've been trained to do this.

Watch and listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

Many Muslim people throughout the Middle East are opposed to ideological Zionism, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are opposed to Jewish people or the existence of a non-Zionist Jewish state.

Watch and listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vYXcna8Pxw

And...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOEQd-82mM

Our corporate media, which is primarily controlled by Jewish Zionists and Christian pro-Zionists, many of which are also known as "neocons", doesn't want you to know this difference. They want you to believe that Muslims hate Jews in general.

Don't fall for their incessant, warmongering propaganda.

mastoidbone
01-14-2013, 11:08 PM
I have NO issue with critics of ISRAEL and israeli policy.

This is not about that.

this is about HATRED of JEWS.

This is similar to Hagel---who talks about intimidating Jewish lobby...that has the stink of anti-semitism.

Now--there is a LARGE israeli lobby...there is also a larger farm lobby, and gun lobby, and medicare lobby, etc etc.

ChartsandGrafs
01-14-2013, 11:19 PM
I have NO issue with critics of ISRAEL and israeli policy.

This is not about that.

this is about HATRED of JEWS.

This is similar to Hagel---who talks about intimidating Jewish lobby...that has the stink of anti-semitism.

Now--there is a LARGE israeli lobby...there is also a larger farm lobby, and gun lobby, and medicare lobby, etc etc.

No it's not. It's about Zionism. Regular Jews who are openly anti-Zionist are welcome throughout the Middle East. It's Zionist Jews and their fanatical supporters that are the threat, not just to the Middle East, but to America as well. The so-called "Jewish lobby" is really a "Zionist lobby", and any sensible person should oppose their efforts.

Maybe one day you'll learn the difference between the two and it will sink in.

Row6
01-14-2013, 11:35 PM
Last I read---we were not giving Saudi 1 billion in aid, or giving them free weapon systems....two things obama seems most eager to do----while embracing a man who holds vile thoughts about million of american jews......didn't bother him much for 20 years when his preacher said these things either....doesnt seem to bother him much now.

I guess it is asking too much to ask him to denounce these words before giving him free killing machines and a billion dollars in aid.....

I guess the MORE you renounce jews, the more tanks Obama will give you.

Why would Obama give 200 tanks to a nation on the border of a jewish israel? whose military leader slurs jews on TV???

just wondering...he seems VERY comfortable with anti-semites.....while he does NOT appear to be one, he sure keeps odd company....

As with Mubarak, we are buying influence in Egypt and - among other things - trying to keep them from attacking Israel. We first made - that is, bought - that deal with Sadat and hope to keep it going another 30 years. It is in the larger interest of Israel. Could it backfire? Yeah, but not likely. Meanwhile the Saudis are the ones keeping their distance from us, not visa versa.

Row6
01-14-2013, 11:44 PM
I have NO issue with critics of ISRAEL and israeli policy.

This is not about that.

this is about HATRED of JEWS.

This is similar to Hagel---who talks about intimidating Jewish lobby...that has the stink of anti-semitism.

Now--there is a LARGE israeli lobby...there is also a larger farm lobby, and gun lobby, and medicare lobby, etc etc.

Get off it with Hagel. He made one comment that was maybe mispoken - or not. The term has been used by Jews here and in Israel as well. Hagel has been supported by his home and state rabbis and temples. in this PC debate. Would we insist on the same specificity you demand when discussing Boston and New York Irish who supported the green back home?

LeesGator
01-14-2013, 11:56 PM
No it's not. It's about Zionism. Regular Jews who are openly anti-Zionist are welcome throughout the Middle East. It's Zionist Jews and their fanatical supporters that are the threat, not just to the Middle East, but to America as well. The so-called "Jewish lobby" is really a "Zionist lobby", and any sensible person should oppose their efforts.

Maybe one day you'll learn the difference between the two and it will sink in.

Whew, that is a relief. All this time I thought Iran was a threat to Isreal, but guess I was wrong, he is simply opposed to the Zionist in Israel. One thing about the big A, he can certainly teach us a thing or two about compassion. Hitler hated the Zionist pigs too, but as you have pointed out, that was a good thing. You're photo ops are cute, and they certainly speak way more volumes than actions.

ChartsandGrafs
01-15-2013, 12:31 AM
Whew, that is a relief. All this time I thought Iran was a threat to Isreal, but guess I was wrong, he is simply opposed to the Zionist in Israel.

Good job. You're finally catching on.

Keep it up!

AmericaFirst
01-15-2013, 01:08 AM
Anti-Zionism ≠ Anti-Semitism

Just as...

Anti-Nazism ≠ Anti-Germanism

Zionism is a nationalist and somewhat supremacist political ideology, not too much unlike Nazism.

Unfortunately, the American people are largely brainwashed to conflate Zionism with Judaism, but they are not the same. That's why when they hear the word 'Zionism' their brain shuts down and they go into their Pavlovian "that's antisemitic!" mode. They've been trained to do this.

Watch and listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

Many Muslim people throughout the Middle East are opposed to ideological Zionism, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are opposed to Jewish people or the existence of a non-Zionist Jewish state.

Watch and listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vYXcna8Pxw

And...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOEQd-82mM

Our corporate media, which is primarily controlled by Jewish Zionists and Christian pro-Zionists, many of which are also known as "neocons", doesn't want you to know this difference. They want you to believe that Muslims hate Jews in general.

Don't fall for their incessant, warmongering propaganda.




Couldn't have said it better myself.

gatorev12
01-15-2013, 01:22 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Perhaps you can dedicate part of your salary as Iranian ambassador to GC to him?

I'm sure he'd appreciate the thoughtful gesture.