View Full Version : David Gregory won't be prosecuted
JerseyGator01
01-13-2013, 04:27 PM
Whining liberal in media = untouchable.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2013/01/11/david-gregory-will-not-be-prosecuted-gun-violation
From the link:
It's now official: David Gregory is above the law. Just two days after the DC attorney general's office received the case of NBC star's deliberate exibition of a high-capacity bullet magazine, the agency decided it would not prosecute.
The decision is interesting and disturbing for two reasons: 1) the prosecutors believe that Gregory (and his producers) were guilty of the crime, and 2) they seem to think that it is ok to use the rights granted by the First Amendment to attack the rights granted by the Second.
In a statement released to the media, the Office of Attorney General admitted that Gregory was, in fact, guilty of violating the law by wantonly waving a 30-round gun magazine on the December 23, 2012 edition of Meet the Press. The "clarity of the violation" of the law was apparent according to the statement.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2013/01/11/david-gregory-will-not-be-prosecuted-gun-violation
CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!
GatorFanCF
01-13-2013, 04:38 PM
Shows the inane desire of more laws is strictly political.
"Hey, look at me..I'm a politician...something bad happened...let's pass another law. We won't worry about enforcement because we are all about appearance and style, getting reelected and gaining power. I really, REALLY care."
ChartsandGrafs
01-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Good.
No victim, no crime.
All people are and should be considered above stupid laws.
JerseyGator01
01-13-2013, 04:52 PM
Apparently 105 others weren't considered above this law.
From the link:
Unlike most of the rest of the country, violent crime in D.C. was up 3 percent in 2012 and assaults with a deadly weapon were up 6 percent. Before Chief Lanier took down the crime map stats in the fall, assaults with a gun were up 20 percent. Her spokesman, Gwendolyn Crump, could not give the final statistic for year end.
Asked how many people were arrested in 2012 for “high capacity magazines,” it took the police department five days to tell me that there were “more than” 105 arrests for possession last year. One of those was Mr. Brinkley, but none were Mr. Gregory.
Mr. Brinkley was publicly humiliated and thrown in jail. He was forced to spend time and money to defend himself for violating the same exact law that millions of viewers watched the NBC anchor violate. It’s wrong for Mr. Gregory to get special treatment.
The bigger issue is that the nation’s capital is using all its resources to persecute law-abiding gun owners instead of focusing its manpower on the bad guys. It’s time for the city council to get rid of these pointless gun laws so the police can be freed up to go after the real criminals.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2013/jan/4/miller-if-youre-not-david-gregory-extended-version/#ixzz2HtXpHlHW
corpgator
01-13-2013, 07:16 PM
And of those 105, which of them were using it as a protest or an exercise of their first amendment rights to make a point?
kygator
01-13-2013, 07:31 PM
Good.
No victim, no crime.
All people are and should be considered above stupid laws.
I agree with you but we know that, in practice, only some people are above stupid laws.
wargunfan
01-13-2013, 07:58 PM
I don't believe Gregory should be prosecuted for breaking a patently stupid and useless law. A law, nevertheless, Gregory would have the rest of us prosecuted for breaking. So, while I think it's a stupid law, it would be instructive for him to feel the weight of the oppressive state bearing down on him. Perhaps if he, as a law abiding citizen, had to defend himself for doing what should be the uninfringed right of all Americans, he would cease being the pompous a$$ that he is.
ChartsandGrafs
01-13-2013, 07:59 PM
I agree with you but we know that, in practice, only some people are above stupid laws.
Indeed, there's a legal system for them, and there's a legal system for us. I won't dispute that.
helix139
01-13-2013, 08:01 PM
There is bound to be an equal protection case in there somewhere
rivergator
01-13-2013, 08:08 PM
First of all, Gregory was stupid to bring out that magazine when he knew it was illegal. As far as prosecution, I wonder if the other guys were prosecuted because they were in position to actually use it while Gregory obviously was not.
Out of curiosity, who here really thinks he should have been prosecuted?
oragator1
01-13-2013, 08:23 PM
First of all, Gregory was stupid to bring out that magazine when he knew it was illegal. As far as prosecution, I wonder if the other guys were prosecuted because they were in position to actually use it while Gregory obviously was not.
Out of curiosity, who here really thinks he should have been prosecuted?
Why should he not have been? I am not taking sides on the validity of the law or Gregory's motives, but if a law is on the books, don't the police have an obligation to enforce it and let a judge or jury decide if the mitigating circumstances were relevant? Why shouldn't he have been prosecuted if he not only broke a law, but knowingly did so apparently?
rivergator
01-13-2013, 08:26 PM
Why should he not have been? I am not taking sides on the validity of the law or Gregory's motives, but if a law is on the books, don't the police have an obligation to enforce it and let a judge or jury decide if the mitigating circumstances were relevant? Why shouldn't he have been prosecuted if he not only broke a law, but knowingly did so apparently?
I don't know the circumstances under which others were prosecuted.But given the fact that Gregory obviously had no intent to use the magazine, that changes things a bit, don't you think?
GatorFanCF
01-13-2013, 10:38 PM
I had no intent on smoking or selling that bag of weed...why was I arrested? I was simply demonstrating to my younger siblings what that vile substance looked like so they wouldn't get suckered in to watching someone's oregano.
All Americans ate created equal, but $ome American$ are more equal than other$.
rivergator
01-13-2013, 10:55 PM
I had no intent on smoking or selling that bag of weed...why was I arrested? I was simply demonstrating to my younger siblings what that vile substance looked like so they wouldn't get suckered in to watching someone's oregano.
All Americans ate created equal, but $ome American$ are more equal than other$.
You really think that Gregory was as likely to use that magazine to shoot a bunch of people as you were to smoke that bag of weed?
oragator1
01-13-2013, 11:18 PM
I don't know the circumstances under which others were prosecuted.But given the fact that Gregory obviously had no intent to use the magazine, that changes things a bit, don't you think?
Not really.
NBC asked ahead of time and was told it was illegal and did it anyway. Their intent was to flaunt the law and make some headlines - 99% of people who do that not only get arrested, they do it toget arrested and make a political point. And most of those aren't something as dangerous as illegal gun magazines.
So the real question is what would have happened to any random person who walked around with one to make a point? I think it's safe to say that they wouldn't have enjoyed the deference Gregory got. That's the problem I have with it.
corpgator
01-14-2013, 03:10 AM
Prosecutors and police make decisions every day about who to arrest and who to prosecute. If every law was enforced to the letter, we'd all be in jail and the country would be no more. Zealots who say he should be charged are the reason we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and the reason why a million plus are in jail for simple possession of drugs.
oragator1
01-14-2013, 03:23 AM
Prosecutors and police make decisions every day about who to arrest and who to prosecute. If every law was enforced to the letter, we'd all be in jail and the country would be no more. Zealots who say he should be charged are the reason we have the highest incarceration rate in the world and the reason why a million plus are in jail for simple possession of drugs.
Again I will ask the question, what do you think would have happened to the average DC resident in a similar situation, asking whether something is legal, told no and then publicly brandishing it?
Remember, this is the city that went after a woman who didn't recycle the newspaper she used for her pet's droppings, and I am not making that up.
It was a political decision. MSNBC leans left as does DC (yes I know this was technically NBC but few make a distinction) they have a large bureau there that the city doesn't want to alienate, and they know NBC will spend big money on his defense and turn it into a show trial, profiting from it. The city will have to spend a good deal of money bringing it to trial, and put it to a jury that will probably acquit Gregory because of his name and where he works. He got off because of who he is and because NBC called their bluff. That's where the inconsistency lies.
Here is the cat litter story.
http://www.examiner.com/article/woman-fined-2-000-for-not-recycling-homemade-cat-litter
ChartsandGrafs
01-14-2013, 04:46 AM
I am not taking sides on the validity of the law or Gregory's motives, but if a law is on the books, don't the police have an obligation to enforce it and let a judge or jury decide if the mitigating circumstances were relevant?
No, just because a law is on the books doesn't mean that that alone is a good enough reason to enforce it. We are inundated with corrupt legislators, a corrupt legal system, and a jury selection process that is too easily rigged. The police would be doing us all a big favor by not enforcing illegitimate laws.
No victim, no crime.
JerseyGator01
01-14-2013, 04:49 PM
I guarantee this guy is arrested if he works for Fox News.
CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!
MichaelJoeWilliamson
01-14-2013, 05:01 PM
First of all, Gregory was stupid to bring out that magazine when he knew it was illegal. As far as prosecution, I wonder if the other guys were prosecuted because they were in position to actually use it while Gregory obviously was not.
Out of curiosity, who here really thinks he should have been prosecuted?
The laws, as I read it, is blind to that case. The law talks about "possession" ONLY. He broke the law, period.
And no, there should be no law about it. However, arbitrary enforcement of laws, even stupid ones, is just one step behind tyranny.
Lawdog88
01-14-2013, 05:50 PM
You really think that Gregory was as likely to use that magazine to shoot a bunch of people as you were to smoke that bag of weed?
Try possessing a bag of weed (in Flardy) in the presence of the police, and claim it was for demonstrative, educational, or teaching purposes . . . and see how far that gets you.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
GatorFanCF
01-14-2013, 08:25 PM
And no, there should be no law about it. However, arbitrary enforcement of laws, even stupid ones, is just one step behind tyranny. [Reply] [!!]
BINGO! He violated the law BUT he had "good intentions.". No, he has good connections.
GatorFanCF
01-14-2013, 09:10 PM
And no, there should be no law about it. However, arbitrary enforcement of laws, even stupid ones, is just one step behind tyranny. [Reply] [!!]
BINGO! He violated the law BUT he had "good intentions.". No, he has good connections.
rivergator
01-14-2013, 10:31 PM
Try possessing a bag of weed (in Flardy) in the presence of the police, and claim it was for demonstrative, educational, or teaching purposes . . . and see how far that gets you.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
except it was obvious what Gregory was doing with the magazine.
helix139
01-14-2013, 11:13 PM
except it was obvious what Gregory was doing with the magazine.
The law states nothing about what his purpose is for possessing it. It's a stupid law but it should be applied equally.
Lawdog88
01-14-2013, 11:32 PM
except it was obvious what Gregory was doing with the magazine.
It was an obvious violation of the law.
Prosecute !
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