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larrycooke
01-11-2013, 10:46 AM
at 6'3 230 Anzalone looks like a Buck candidate. His speed, mobility and future size looks good to me.

rserina
01-11-2013, 10:51 AM
Can he rush the passer? I don't know, but that seems to be a prerequisite, since the Buck is essentially a stand up end we move.

thedyc09
01-11-2013, 10:52 AM
I believe he'll stay at Mike backer. Daniel is going to be our BUCK in this class.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 10:54 AM
Dainel is getting the Buck position watch his film

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/286443/elijah-daniel

thedyc09
01-11-2013, 11:00 AM
Dainel is getting the Buck position watch his film

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/286443/elijah-daniel

Hah, the hit on the Decatur QB at 1'00" in the first highlight almost made me drop my laptop.

rserina
01-11-2013, 11:27 AM
What is the latest update on Daniel? Is he still slated to visit the last weekend? With the Walker situation taking its bizarre turn, end is the one spot we really need help with to situate ourselves for a big 2014 run.

ufballer86
01-11-2013, 11:29 AM
is mike lb an inside backer? really wanted two this class

Ahab
01-11-2013, 11:29 AM
DE is the last big need remaining in our class.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 11:30 AM
What is the latest update on Daniel? Is he still slated to visit the last weekend? With the Walker situation taking its bizarre turn, end is the one spot we really need help with to situate ourselves for a big 2014 run.

He visits Feb 1st with his coach. All the kid cares about is football, the weight room and nutrition. That's three things Florida has over Ole miss.

rserina
01-11-2013, 11:39 AM
is mike lb an inside backer? really wanted two this class
Yes. Middle linebacker, but it is similar to a Will (weakside) in our system. That's why you saw Taylor and Morrison play both positions last year. Sam (strongside) has more similarities with Buck (weakside end) than the other linebacker positions under this staff. Rolin is the only one of our current linebacker commits I see ending up at Sam, while the others seem to fit the Mike/Will mode. Walker would have been a Buck/SDE guy, Sherit is sort of a Buck/SDE guy, and I would see the same thing with Daniel. Not sure we have anyone in this class who is a Sam/Buck guy like McCray, Powell, McCallister, Cox.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 11:45 AM
I think McMillian could end up playing all of the LB positions before his career is over at Florida

Dreamliner
01-11-2013, 11:48 AM
Man, if he's anywhere neat his listed 6-4 250, right now, he's going inside.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 11:49 AM
Man, if he's anywhere neat his listed 6-4 250, right now, he's going inside.

who?

rserina
01-11-2013, 11:58 AM
Daniel is not going "inside." Not a chance, especially not with Fowler and Bullard around. He is a weakside end with the ability to play strongside end if he added some size. The simple fact that he is 250 now really doesn't mean much on campus. Plenty of kids gain zero-to-no weight during their college careers because of how they diet and condition themselves.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 12:03 PM
He could probably put on 15lbs and still play Buck. Dont think he will go inside unless we just get that loaded at SSDE and BUCK that we want him inside on passing downs
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/620/781/781620.jpg

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 12:14 PM
Elijah is the most important Defensive player in the class.

Dreamliner
01-11-2013, 12:25 PM
Daniel is not going "inside." Not a chance, especially not with Fowler and Bullard around. He is a weakside end with the ability to play strongside end if he added some size. The simple fact that he is 250 now really doesn't mean much on campus. Plenty of kids gain zero-to-no weight during their college careers because of how they diet and condition themselves.

If he's 250, right now, he may very well go inside eventually. We'll just have to wait and see. Recall that Powell was listed 250 coming in, wasn't anywhere near that and was still considered a little pudgy.

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 12:29 PM
If he's 250, right now, he may very well go inside eventually. We'll just have to wait and see. Recall that Powell was listed 250 coming in, wasn't anywhere near that and was still considered a little pudgy.

Elijah is a workout freak supposedly he was around 250 at the UA game last weekend. He has a College ready body its hard to see him ever going inside on this team I dont think he is going to get up to 280+.

Dreamliner
01-11-2013, 12:40 PM
Elijah is a workout freak supposedly he was around 250 at the UA game last weekend. He has a College ready body its hard to see him ever going inside on this team I dont think he is going to get up to 280+.

Maybe, maybe not. Recall the number of times we've seen signees gain 10-15 lbs., over the summer, even prior to reporting!

LAGatorDoc
01-11-2013, 12:44 PM
Dainel is getting the Buck position watch his film

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/286443/elijah-daniel

Nah, I think Daniel is perfect for Mike if you watch his film. He shouldn't be buck. Just like RoPo. RoPo needs to be Mike and not Buck next year, and then he can train Daniel to be the perfect Mike...

Obviously this is a sarcastic post about all the people wanting RoPo to be Mike next year

Dreamliner
01-11-2013, 12:45 PM
I know I don't want him to be Mike. I like the name RoPo.

LAGatorDoc
01-11-2013, 12:47 PM
Yes. Middle linebacker, but it is similar to a Will (weakside) in our system. That's why you saw Taylor and Morrison play both positions last year. Sam (strongside) has more similarities with Buck (weakside end) than the other linebacker positions under this staff. Rolin is the only one of our current linebacker commits I see ending up at Sam, while the others seem to fit the Mike/Will mode. Walker would have been a Buck/SDE guy, Sherit is sort of a Buck/SDE guy, and I would see the same thing with Daniel. Not sure we have anyone in this class who is a Sam/Buck guy like McCray, Powell, McCallister, Cox.

So Rolin was told by the staff that he may eventually grow into the buck position later in his career, b/c of his ability to rush the passer and he wants to be a pass rush specialist, FWIW

rserina
01-11-2013, 01:15 PM
So Rolin was told by the staff that he may eventually grow into the buck position later in his career, b/c of his ability to rush the passer and he wants to be a pass rush specialist, FWIW
That makes sense to me, especially given the crossover between the two positions. I have also wondered if we want to be a multiple 3-4/4-3 team. That's what Saban brought to the league, the direction Meyer wanted to go with the defense, and to some degree what the Buck position itself enables. Guys like Fowler and Bullard could be phenomenal ends in a 3-4 or great strongside ends in a 4-3. Same for Sherit and Ivie. Riles and Williams could play any line position in a 3-4. So could Valentine.

The key is having those outside linbackers who can leverage the run, drop into coverage, or put their hands down and rush the passer. Powell is that sort of a guy. McCray was. Ball and Kitchens are okay, but just don't have the beef. Rolin could be. Daniel possibly could be. McCalister could be, too. Anzalone? Interesting to think about, if not really attainable right now.

Gator4Christ
01-11-2013, 01:28 PM
I know it is relative, but this class of LB's for the most part have great size for their athleticism. As a barometer considering i dont see many, if any, 6'3 230 guys..... wasnt Tebow a 6'3 225-230 freshman and Spikes a tad bigger?

gator996
01-11-2013, 01:32 PM
is mike lb an inside backer? really wanted two this class

Yes.

Mike = middle
Sam = strong side
Will= weak side
Buck = Stand up DE/OLB

Dreamliner
01-11-2013, 01:34 PM
I know it is relative, but this class of LB's for the most part have great size for their athleticism. As a barometer considering i dont see many, if any, 6'3 230 guys..... wasnt Tebow a 6'3 225-230 freshman and Spikes a tad bigger?

Both gained around 15 lbs. while here. Harvin probably better than 20.

Just throwing this into the mix: recall that many felt that Lerentee McCray was too skinny coming out of highschool to play LB. And look where he wound up!

Gator4Christ
01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Both gained around 15 lbs. while here. Harvin probably better than 20.

Just throwing this into the mix: recall that many felt that Lerentee McCray was too skinny coming out of highschool to play LB. And look where he wound up!

Thanks. Great seeing the size and athleticism of these guys coming in. And then getting to work with Dillman

PSGator66
01-11-2013, 02:24 PM
Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?

GATORAZ
01-11-2013, 02:26 PM
Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?

If he has the grades and doesn't commit CWM might rip Bryant Young's head off.

MadduxFanII
01-11-2013, 02:51 PM
If he has the grades and doesn't commit CWM might rip Bryant Young's head off.

Sure, but Muschamp rips the heads off people who take five seconds too long to order at a restaurant.

rserina
01-11-2013, 03:54 PM
Both of those teams looked huge for high school. Doesn't Daniel have to commit first before he is assigned a position?
Doesn't mean he isn't being recruited for a particular position, which I think is the point of debating Buck vs. DT.

LAGatorDoc
01-11-2013, 04:19 PM
Sure, but Muschamp rips the heads off people who take five seconds too long to order at a restaurant.

I don't know about that, but I do know 3 things (these are facts):

1) CWM also once urinated in a semi-truck. That semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime.

2) CWM once started a fire at camp by rubbing two ice cubes together

3) CWM once made a happy meal cry.

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 08:58 PM
Random: I am watching 2014 E tape right now and all I can think about is we better get Daniel. Daniel is a 5 star football player. Even with Fowler Powell and McCalister ready to play Buck next year I don't see how you could keep Daniel off the field.

DieAGator
01-13-2013, 09:09 PM
Even with Fowler Powell and McCalister ready to play Buck next year I don't see how you could keep Daniel off the field.

So what do you do with those guys if we get Daniel?

Tebowism0823
01-13-2013, 09:13 PM
Elijah is the most important Defensive player in the class.

What % would you put on it right now that he's playing in Gainesville next year?

Tebowism0823
01-13-2013, 09:14 PM
I don't know about that, but I do know 3 things (these are facts):

1) CWM also once urinated in a semi-truck. That semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime.

2) CWM once started a fire at camp by rubbing two ice cubes together

3) CWM once made a happy meal cry.

lol

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:26 PM
So what do you do with those guys if we get Daniel?

Play Fowler at SSDE & BUCK. Ideally you would want probably 3 guys playing the position so everybody is well rested IMO.

GatorFootballNC
01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
Lol. E. Daniel and D. Robinson are the two best players in the class to hear you tell it. I'll bet neither are starters or even get significant PT next year. Your highlight tape analysis is a bit off.

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 09:34 PM
Lol. E. Daniel and D. Robinson are the two best players in the class to hear you tell it. I'll bet neither are starters or even get significant PT next year. Your highlight tape analysis is a bit off.

O RLY

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:35 PM
What % would you put on it right now that he's playing in Gainesville next year?

I dont like giving percentages but I have a hard time seeing him turn down Florida. The scheme we run plus Dilaman will be hard for him to turn down. He said Ole miss was his best visit ever and their recruits are pushing for him, but I think the kid is all business. I also like the fact that his coach is coming with him on his visit.

ugaGator
01-13-2013, 09:36 PM
I don't know about that, but I do know 3 things (these are facts):

1) CWM also once urinated in a semi-truck. That semi truck is now known as Optimus Prime.

2) CWM once started a fire at camp by rubbing two ice cubes together

3) CWM once made a happy meal cry.

:laugh: great!

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:38 PM
Lol. E. Daniel and D. Robinson are the two best players in the class to hear you tell it. I'll bet neither are starters or even get significant PT next year. Your highlight tape analysis is a bit off.

Who do you think are the best players in the class? Who do you think will get significant playing time?

I also like McMillian & Ivey (Taylor & vh3 are obvious)

gator1986
01-13-2013, 09:39 PM
Who do you think are the best players in the class? Who do you think will get significant playing time?

I also like McMillian & Ivey (Taylor & vh3 are obvious)

Sherit? I think Bailey too...

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:42 PM
Sherit? I think Bailey too...

I like both kids but Sherit is injured and needs to add weight. Bailey played a lot of QB the last two years, he is going to need a lot of work on route running

gator1986
01-13-2013, 09:47 PM
I like both kids but Sherit is injured and needs to add weight. Bailey played a lot of QB the last two years, he is going to need a lot of work on route running

Another I like and think has probably some of the most upside is Neal....

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:51 PM
Another I like and think has probably some of the most upside is Neal....

Did you know his brother played 7 or 8 year in the NFL but never played college football?

gator1986
01-13-2013, 09:53 PM
Did you know his brother played 7 or 8 year in the NFL but never played college football?

Really who's his brother? And what position? It's like Antonio Gates, he played basketball in college and was asked to play football, and now look at him..

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 09:54 PM
Really who's his brother? And what position? It's like Antonio Gates, he played basketball in college and was asked to play football, and now look at him..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Hart

gator1986
01-13-2013, 09:57 PM
Now that's a cool story... And tampa bay storm is legit man, they won multiple arena bowl championships

UFFL
01-13-2013, 10:05 PM
Daniel visits February 1st. That's usually a really great sign. I hope we get him, Reed, and Swanson. It's not a flashy finish but it'll pay for us this fall

gator1986
01-13-2013, 10:09 PM
Daniel visits February 1st. That's usually a really great sign. I hope we get him, Reed, and Swanson. It's not a flashy finish but it'll pay for us this fall

Clark and Ramsey too... And whatever happened to Smythe? The TE that was committed to Texas? He had mutual interest I take it that has totally blown over?

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 10:13 PM
Clark and Ramsey too... And whatever happened to Smythe? The TE that was committed to Texas? He had mutual interest I take it that has totally blown over?

doesnt look like Florida made the cut

gator1986
01-13-2013, 10:14 PM
doesnt look like Florida made the cut

God I mean if a playmaking TE wanted to come in and play early, I would think they'd look here only because no one is solid yet..

newdad
01-13-2013, 10:16 PM
highjack

UGator
01-14-2013, 08:19 AM
Nice position to be in and hopefully Powell will be back full strength and allow our newer players to develop. Fowler and Bullard look to be great players but time is needed to fully implement them into our Defense. Their second year should be very good as Powell probably moves on after this next season is over.

newdad
01-14-2013, 08:36 AM
What about Alex McCalister , have been hearing positive things here. Maybe he moves inside?

GATORAZ
01-14-2013, 09:07 AM
What about Alex McCalister , have been hearing positive things here. Maybe he moves inside?

McCalister will play BUCK or SSDE he still need to add weight to play those positions

GATORAZ
01-14-2013, 09:28 AM
Elijah Daniel got his 5 star on 247 he is now #27 player in the country according to them

StrangeGator
01-14-2013, 10:31 AM
McCalister will play BUCK or SSDE he still need to add weight to play those positions

I'd like to see McCallister turn into the kind of player we were hoping Trail would become. I think he'll have enough weight on him to get on the field at Buck this year. Wasn't he a decent coverage guy in high school?

GATORAZ
01-14-2013, 10:08 PM
Mullen and 3 assistance went in home with Daniel tonight. I think Freeze and Muschamp and are scheduled to have in homes later this week with Daniel. Ole miss (fans) feel confident. I think as long as Daniel makes his visit on Feb 1st we should be good.

Pieisyummy
01-15-2013, 08:52 AM
I could be wrong (it happens often) but I thought the Buck was added because of RoPo, so does it necessarily continue when he's gone?

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 09:08 AM
I could be wrong (it happens often) but I thought the Buck was added because of RoPo, so does it necessarily continue when he's gone?

It was added when Mushchamp got here. Ropo was playing mostly Sam his freshman year under Meyer.

Pieisyummy
01-15-2013, 09:12 AM
It was added when Mushchamp got here. Ropo was playing mostly Sam his freshman year under Meyer.

I did not mean to imply Meyer did it, but that Muschamp added it in an attempt to get RoPo into the mix a bit more.

thedyc09
01-15-2013, 10:10 AM
I did not mean to imply Meyer did it, but that Muschamp added it in an attempt to get RoPo into the mix a bit more.

No, the Buck position (essentially a floating DE that can play with his hand up or down against both the run and the pass) is the lynchpin to the flexibility of our defense. It's what allows us to give opposing offenses so many different looks. It just so happened that Powell (once he added some muscle and worked on his pass rushing moves) was exactly the kind of athletic player we were looking for to play the position.

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 11:17 AM
McCalister will play BUCK or SSDE he still need to add weight to play those positions

He would need to add a lot of weight to ever play SSDE. He's got ideal height, but Muschamp seems to favor guys in the 275+ range. McCallister might grow that big one day, but you can't even put him on the field at the position now. Offensive tackles will maul him. I can see him getting out there as a reserve Buck, but not for any long stretches. Be interesting to see how much weight he's gained and how much mobility he's maintained. He was incredibly agile as a 6'7" 220 pound high school LB. If he's no more than 235 or 240, he might have to get his first reps at Sam.

rserina
01-15-2013, 11:38 AM
No, the Buck position (essentially a floating DE that can play with his hand up or down against both the run and the pass) is the lynchpin to the flexibility of our defense. It's what allows us to give opposing offenses so many different looks. It just so happened that Powell (once he added some muscle and worked on his pass rushing moves) was exactly the kind of athletic player we were looking for to play the position.
Exactly. He did a little of it with Quentin Groves back at Auburn, then used both Orakpo and Sergio Kindle heavily in that role. It is most effective against spread teams because it gives you a little flexibility in terms of rush and coverage packages and you can run some nice zone blitzes out of it.

Meyer was sort of trending toward it at the end of his tenure, too, because he liked what Saban had done with his outside linebackers in the 3-4 and the ability to shift between the 3-4 and the 4-3 in a one-gap scheme the way Belicheck has been doing for years with the Patriots. Powell was the perfect fit for it and he was expected to replace Cunningham at the Fox as that position moved more toward a stand up rush backer.

I hope Daniel ends up here because he is a perfect candidate. Fowler is already a little on the heavy side for it. McCallister and Cox are both decent candidates, but have some work to do.

Ahab
01-15-2013, 01:32 PM
Where is Fowler going to end up? People keep talking about him as a LB but I think he's grown into a SSDE.

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 01:35 PM
Where is Fowler going to end up? People keep talking about him as a LB but I think he's grown into a SSDE.

BUCK or SSDE

rserina
01-15-2013, 01:44 PM
Where is Fowler going to end up? People keep talking about him as a LB but I think he's grown into a SSDE.
I honestly haven't seen anything about him as a linebacker, but I suspect he rotates with Bullard at the strongside end and Powell at the Buck. But his future in the league is as a 4-3 end, I think, whereas I see Powell as a 3-4 outside linebacker.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-15-2013, 05:30 PM
I think Fowler put on a little extra weight prior to his arrival. I'm not sure if the staff was thrilled with the way he showed up to camp, but he carried the weight well throughout the season, and ultimately played pretty well.

He's far from a finished product. I'm not sold that he's going to grow into a Strong side DE. We'll probably know by the fall how they intend to use him. They may want him to lose 10-15 lbs over the summer. He has the ability to be an elite pass-rusher in the SEC, so I'd still think he'd be unstoppable at the Buck position if he got himself into great shape.

rserina
01-15-2013, 05:50 PM
I think Fowler put on a little extra weight prior to his arrival. I'm not sure if the staff was thrilled with the way he showed up to camp, but he carried the weight well throughout the season, and ultimately played pretty well.

He's far from a finished product. I'm not sold that he's going to grow into a Strong side DE. We'll probably know by the fall how they intend to use him. They may want him to lose 10-15 lbs over the summer. He has the ability to be an elite pass-rusher in the SEC, so I'd still think he'd be unstoppable at the Buck position if he got himself into great shape.
I think that's fair. The real question in my mind has to do with coverage responsibilities. Powell was admittedly up and down at times, but his agility and speed could make him a great coverage backer. Fowler seems a lot less nimble, but far more physical and aggressive already. We'll see how Fowler emerges from conditioning in the spring. I still suspect he plays both positions next year.

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 07:36 PM
I think Fowler put on a little extra weight prior to his arrival. I'm not sure if the staff was thrilled with the way he showed up to camp, but he carried the weight well throughout the season, and ultimately played pretty well.

He's far from a finished product. I'm not sold that he's going to grow into a Strong side DE. We'll probably know by the fall how they intend to use him. They may want him to lose 10-15 lbs over the summer. He has the ability to be an elite pass-rusher in the SEC, so I'd still think he'd be unstoppable at the Buck position if he got himself into great shape.

Fowler at 277 is only three pounds lighter than Easley and six or seven pounds heavier than Bullard. He's plenty heavy enough by the standards of SSDEs we've had in recent years and would have been nose tackle material 15 years ago. He's just a lot faster and a lot quicker and maintained a lot of that with all the extra weight. We've got a lot more outside guys than inside guys, so it makes sense to start bulking guys up and moving them to SSDE and DT. If Powell looks good at Buck in the spring and we find an adequate backup, I think Fowler goes to SSDE and Bullard to DT. But if Fowler is more natural at the position, let him lose or maintain his weight and put Powell at Sam.

rserina
01-15-2013, 08:45 PM
Fowler at 277 is only three pounds lighter than Easley and six or seven pounds heavier than Bullard. He's plenty heavy enough by the standards of SSDEs we've had in recent years and would have been nose tackle material 15 years ago. He's just a lot faster and a lot quicker and maintained a lot of that with all the extra weight. We've got a lot more outside guys than inside guys, so it makes sense to start bulking guys up and moving them to SSDE and DT. If Powell looks good at Buck in the spring and we find an adequate backup, I think Fowler goes to SSDE and Bullard to DT. But if Fowler is more natural at the position, let him lose or maintain his weight and put Powell at Sam.
If Bullard were the three-technique, where would Easley play? No way he goes to the one-technique outside of pass situations and specialty units. The kid will thrive next year in his most natural position. I also don't see Powell at Sam, not when we have two starters returning there and he hasn't played the position yet under Muschamp/Quinn.

We have a good 120-140 snaps available at end. Rotate Powell, Fowler, and Bullard and, in conjunction with the additional 10+ snaps you get in pass rush packages, that would give each of them upwards of 45 snaps per game. That is plenty. With Easley, Jacobs, and Orr, plus Cummings, Brantley and whoever else gets on campus, we have enough bodies to rotate in at the two tackle spots. You don't need to shift Bullard down there at all just yet. Maybe in 2014, but not quite yet.

larrycooke
01-15-2013, 08:55 PM
Very comprehensive analysis. You folks know your stuff.

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 10:47 PM
If Bullard were the three-technique, where would Easley play? No way he goes to the one-technique outside of pass situations and specialty units. The kid will thrive next year in his most natural position. I also don't see Powell at Sam, not when we have two starters returning there and he hasn't played the position yet under Muschamp/Quinn.

We have a good 120-140 snaps available at end. Rotate Powell, Fowler, and Bullard and, in conjunction with the additional 10+ snaps you get in pass rush packages, that would give each of them upwards of 45 snaps per game. That is plenty. With Easley, Jacobs, and Orr, plus Cummings, Brantley and whoever else gets on campus, we have enough bodies to rotate in at the two tackle spots. You don't need to shift Bullard down there at all just yet. Maybe in 2014, but not quite yet.

Bullard and Easley might split time almost evenly at three-technique. That would preserve stamina for both. I wouldn't call either a starter. I also think that Easley is a decent one-technique guy on some occasions, mostly in absence of a reliable one-technique guy. I don't know how Jacobs, Cummings and Brantley fit. I'm pretty sure Jacobs can play one-technique, but I don't know if he's our number one guy there. Don't know if Orr is progressing enough to man that position as a starter. He has a very high center of gravity. I don't think we have a natural, experienced one-technique guy. In absence of that, Easley might be the best athlete there. He's got a low center of gravity and a great first step. He has the potential to be a great pocket crusher.

I don't know if Brantley is even ready to get on the field next year. Not sure where Cummings fits and whether or not he's capable of helping out right away. Reed would help a lot.

rserina
01-15-2013, 11:56 PM
Bullard and Easley might split time almost evenly at three-technique. That would preserve stamina for both. I wouldn't call either a starter. I also think that Easley is a decent one-technique guy on some occasions, mostly in absence of a reliable one-technique guy. I don't know how Jacobs, Cummings and Brantley fit. I'm pretty sure Jacobs can play one-technique, but I don't know if he's our number one guy there. Don't know if Orr is progressing enough to man that position as a starter. He has a very high center of gravity. I don't think we have a natural, experienced one-technique guy. In absence of that, Easley might be the best athlete there. He's got a low center of gravity and a great first step. He has the potential to be a great pocket crusher.

I don't know if Brantley is even ready to get on the field next year. Not sure where Cummings fits and whether or not he's capable of helping out right away. Reed would help a lot.
I would be very surprised if the staff moved Easley back to the one-technique. He got so worn down there two years ago. I actually liked Orr there last year and think the game has started slowing down for him. Jacobs is a little light in the rear, but he has enough size to be effective in tandem with Orr.

If you move Bullard to the three, you need someone else to absorb end reps and with Easley going inside and McCray and Okine graduating, you are basically down to two guys. Unless one or two of Johnson, McCallister, Cox, or the freshmen step up and are ready to play, then Powell and Fowler will be on the field entirely too much.

If Cummings can play, I see him backing up Easley at the three-technique, Orr and Jacobs at the one, Bullard at strongside end, Powell at buck, and Fowler playing both end spots, with Bullard shifting inside on pass downs and Easley playing over center. That's seven guys in the rotation with lots of flexibility (Fowler, Bullard, Easley, and Jacobs could all play two positions).

NoahBeanBizzel
01-16-2013, 12:24 AM
Who do you think are the best players in the class? Who do you think will get significant playing time?

I also like McMillian & Ivey (Taylor & vh3 are obvious)

Keanu Neal blew me away. He's the best pure athlete I've seen film of. That kid is going to be special.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-16-2013, 12:33 AM
Fowler at 277 is only three pounds lighter than Easley and six or seven pounds heavier than Bullard. He's plenty heavy enough by the standards of SSDEs we've had in recent years and would have been nose tackle material 15 years ago. He's just a lot faster and a lot quicker and maintained a lot of that with all the extra weight. We've got a lot more outside guys than inside guys, so it makes sense to start bulking guys up and moving them to SSDE and DT. If Powell looks good at Buck in the spring and we find an adequate backup, I think Fowler goes to SSDE and Bullard to DT. But if Fowler is more natural at the position, let him lose or maintain his weight and put Powell at Sam.

Fowler is extremely aggressive. He will have no problem getting to the QB. He may be 277 lbs. right now, but they may want him to shed some of that weight. Remember, he arrived at camp roughly 30 pounds heavier than he was listed at in high school, so don't be surprised if he's listed at maybe 260 heading into the fall. I agree that a lot of what they do with him will depend upon how well he does in coverage.

How well other prospects (like Cox and McCallister) perform this spring will also factor into what they do with Dante. I think Bullard would be great inside with an extra 10-15 lbs. I'm sure he'll get reps there in obvious passing situations. Ivey, Williams and Riles will likely all cross-train at both end and tackle, as Muschamp is all about being multiple.

Again, it really comes down to what happens this offseason.