View Full Version : The First State Starts To Take Action Against Federal Firearm Ban
gatorman_07732
01-10-2013, 05:16 PM
Where there is a will there is a way.
http://k2radio.com/wyoming-lawmakers-propose-gun-protection-legislation/
Several Wyoming lawmakers are proposing legislation designed to protect gun-owners from any potential federal firearm ban. The “Firearms Protection Act” bill, introduced this week, would make any federal law banning semi-automatic firearms or limiting the size of gun magazines unenforceable within the state’s boundaries.RELATED - Hotel Employee With Gun Thwarts Robbery
Anyone trying to enforce a federal gun ban could face felony charges under the proposal. It also includes a provision allowing the Wyoming Attorney General’s office to defend any state resident against any federal firearm ban.
MichiGator2002
01-10-2013, 05:23 PM
I don't like these somewhat unexciting facially contradictory state statutes people pass. For something like this, I would rather see the state get real smarmy and offer a tax deduction or something for completion of a firearm safety course and legal purchase of a gun. It is a much cheekier way to tell Washington what they can do with gun control.
rivergator
01-10-2013, 05:32 PM
Isn't that unconstitutional?
wygator
01-10-2013, 05:42 PM
Isn't that unconstitutional?
I think the state is saying the federal bans are unconstitutional.
gatorman_07732
01-10-2013, 05:42 PM
Isn't that unconstitutional?
They have the argument that what Obama does by executive order is unconstitutional, which is exactly why they are doing it
wygator
01-10-2013, 05:44 PM
Saw this link on the story in the op:
A hotel clerk with a gun may have thwarted a robbery Friday morning (January 4th).
Investigators say just before 1:00 AM, two African American males entered the Quality Inn at the corner of North Poplar and F Streets in Casper, with their faces concealed.
One of the suspects told the clerk it was a hold-up, making a gun gesture with his hand.
The clerk then pulled a gun from her lunchbox and pointed it at the suspects, who then fled
wygator
01-10-2013, 05:46 PM
I don't like these somewhat unexciting facially contradictory state statutes people pass. For something like this, I would rather see the state get real smarmy and offer a tax deduction or something for completion of a firearm safety course and legal purchase of a gun. It is a much cheekier way to tell Washington what they can do with gun control.
You do have to take a hunter safety course to get a hunting license in Wyoming.
gatorman_07732
01-10-2013, 05:48 PM
I think the state is saying the federal bans are unconstitutional.
Yes indeed
MichaelJoeWilliamson
01-10-2013, 06:00 PM
You do have to take a hunter safety course to get a hunting license in Wyoming.
Many states require this of hunters under a certain age.
Minister_of_Information
01-10-2013, 06:03 PM
Dark clouds are on the horizon.
rivergator
01-10-2013, 06:03 PM
I think the state is saying the federal bans are unconstitutional.
did they do it when assault rifles were illegal before?
gatorman_07732
01-10-2013, 06:12 PM
did they do it when assault rifles were illegal before?
They didn't have to because it was repealed and it was common knowledge that was going to happen
AmericaFirst
01-10-2013, 06:17 PM
I have an Uzi 9MM. Good luck trying to force me to give it up.
gatorman_07732
01-10-2013, 06:19 PM
I have an Uzi 9MM. Good luck trying to force me to give it up.
you may not want to advertise that
Minister_of_Information
01-10-2013, 06:22 PM
http://images.wikia.com/terminator/images/9/92/Uzi_02.jpg
AmericaFirst
01-10-2013, 06:24 PM
http://images.wikia.com/terminator/images/9/92/Uzi_02.jpg
Exact model that I have. I prefer the short barrel similar to what Arnold used in The Terminator over the long barrel that you see in gangster movies. Short barrel also makes it easier to use it one-handed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX1qQ4j7GEY
Lawdog88
01-10-2013, 06:26 PM
NRA senses agenda advancement and attack on 2nd A, not sincere interest in discussion.
Not that there was ever much doubt, but the National Rifle Association bluntly declared on Thursday that it would not cooperate with any White House drive for gun control in the aftermath of the elementary school slaughter in Newtown, Conn. “We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment,” the powerful lobbying group said in a statement after talks with Vice President Joe Biden.
"While claiming that no policy proposals would be 'prejudged,' this task force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners—honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans," the NRA said. "It is unfortunate that this administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems." Biden has been leading a task force with the job of coming up with recommendations for battling what President Barack Obama calls an epidemic of gun violence across America. The vice president is due to present his recommendations to Obama on Tuesday (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/biden-offer-gun-task-force-recommendations-tuesday-181517450--politics.html) after a range of discussions with gun-violence victims groups, law enforcement officials, organizations that represent gun owners, and officials from the entertainment industry. Obama has already pressed Congress to renew the assault weapons ban and take up new restrictions on owning large-capacity magazines—two steps the NRA opposes.
"We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen," the organization said. "Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of Congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works—and what does not."
The statement appears to leave open the possibility that the NRA could (maybe) support tighter restrictions to keep guns out of the hands of Americans who already cannot legally own them. But the NRA's description of what it was ready to talk about with Biden did not include gun control. "We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals," the group said. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/nra-blasts-biden-talks-says-won-t-help-213057676--politics.html
Dreamliner
01-10-2013, 06:31 PM
"Oosa nine-mee-luh-mee-tuh."*
*Arnold voice
rivergator
01-10-2013, 07:00 PM
They didn't have to because it was repealed and it was common knowledge that was going to happen
It lasted for 10 years. If Obama did it by executive order and a Republican wins in 2016, it'll last for less that four.
Minister_of_Information
01-10-2013, 07:03 PM
I don't think a ban affecting domestic manufacturers could be enacted by executive order. Perhaps I'm mistaken there, but typically gun control executive orders have been directed at the import market.
MichiGator2002
01-10-2013, 07:08 PM
Isn't that unconstitutional?
It isn't "unconstitutional" for a state to pass a state law exempting itself from speculative federal action, it would be unconstitutional to try to enforce the provision as relates to federal agents carrying out federal law and invalid on its face as relates to general provisions that conflicted with federal law.
That is, of course, subject to any subsequent litigation over whatever federal action we would be talking about, most of those speculators being facially or in their application in violation of the second amendment. If the Supreme Court sticks to its guns, pun unintended but appropriate, on its recent cases, it would apply either heightened or preferably strict scrutiny to whatever comes, even his royal pompousness' issuing an executive order as legislation. Like it or not, the law in the federal courts is that the right to own a gun is akin to every other right in the Bill of Rights now and will only be impaired under the same tests that those are. I mean, whose to say the prior ban, if reinstated, would pass muster under the later-decided "Heller" precedent?
bluelang
01-11-2013, 01:45 AM
They might as well have spent the session trying to fart in unison.
Minister_of_Information
01-11-2013, 03:13 AM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8370069340_49ef06fe50.jpg
MichaelJoeWilliamson
01-13-2013, 11:41 AM
California already has the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. Buying a handgun requires registration, a safety certificate, a 10-day waiting period and a rigorous background check. All direct person-to-person sales are banned and concealed-carry permits are rare.
Some politicians want to regulate all ammunition sales, requiring background checks and annual permits.
One Republican lawmaker wants a lifetime ban on gun ownership for anyone who's ever been ruled a danger to others because of mental health issues -- even if they've been successfully treated.
A bill being reintroduced by Democratic state Sen. Leland Yee seeks to ban bullet buttons, a feature that -- he argues -- makes some guns, like the AR-15 rifle, easier to reload.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/13/california-testing-limits-gun-control-bills-in-wake-newtown-shooting/#ixzz2HsHfXJEZ
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