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JerseyGator01
01-07-2013, 04:53 PM
Just another year for Planned Parenthood: a record number of abortions and probably government funding too. But yeah, our government is not pro-abortion.

CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/07/planned-parenthood-sets-record-more-abortions-than-ever/

From the link:

The new report released by the Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) shows the abortion giant did a record 333,964 abortions on unborn children during the 2011-2012 fiscal year. Those abortions were estimated to have generated $150 million dollars for the “nonprofit” organization.

While the number of abortions reached a record high, only 2,300 Planned Parenthood customers were referred to adoption agencies during the 2011-2012 fiscal year.

Meanwhile, the annual report reveals PPFA generated nearly $1.2 billion in total income — just short of the $1.22 billion mark that was its record for income that it posted in 2010-2011.

PPFA’s income included a hefty and ever-increasing check from American taxpayers. In 2009-2010, government funding reached a whopping $487.4 million. In 2010-2011 the figure jumped to $538.5 million. The total for 2011-2012 reached a staggering $542.4 million, which represents 45.2 percent of the group’s total annual budget.

FrolfGator
01-07-2013, 05:23 PM
Good for Planned Parenthood.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 05:24 PM
productivity up in all sectors...has been since the bush depression

no corruption there, just the can do american spirit hard at work

you should really look at this as a positive taxpayer investment rather than be such a negative nelly

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 05:32 PM
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GatorRade
01-07-2013, 06:16 PM
I don't think anybody is hoping for more abortions, but as our population size increases, we should expect increases in most population-dependent occurrences. Autoerotic fatalities are probably also on the rise.

FrolfGator
01-07-2013, 06:58 PM
Good point.

Year - US Population (in Millions) - PP Abortions - PP Abortions per Million
2009 - 308.06060 - 332278 - 1078.6125
2010 - 310.47080 - 329445 - 1061.1143
2011 - 312.75295 - 333964 - 1067.8205

So up from 2010 but still lower per capita than 2009. And with Obamacare ensuring covered access to contraception, I bet that per capita figure will be falling. Better safe-sex education in schools would help, too.

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 07:37 PM
Two out of every five pregnancies of black women are terminated by abortion. If that number goes to three of five the race will disappear. I wonder how blacks feel about those numbers?

GatorNorth
01-07-2013, 07:40 PM
Two out of every five pregnancies of black women are terminated by abortion. If that number goes to three of five the race will disappear. I wonder how blacks feel about those numbers?

Apparently it doesn't bother them since they abort 2 out of every 5 pregnancies.

g8orbill
01-07-2013, 07:48 PM
planned parenthood should be banned from killing unborn children

hell if it were up to me I would defund pp yesterday

fredsanford
01-07-2013, 07:50 PM
planned parenthood should be banned from killing unborn children



...so repub pols can make sure they are raised in squalor and misery.

Once your born, the GOP could care less.

g8orbill
01-07-2013, 08:00 PM
sorry shab- but I cannot in anyway condone the killing of an unborn innocent child

women should think about it before they spread their legs and allow some jerkoff to enter without a condom

exiledgator
01-07-2013, 08:04 PM
More jerking off would help here, I believe.

FrolfGator
01-07-2013, 08:24 PM
Most anti-choicers I've seen say that human life begins at conception; that is, the moment an egg is fertilized by a sperm. But between 60-80% of fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus. Furthermore, about 50% of implanted eggs will spontaneously abort. So God, if you like, is aborting the majority of fertilized eggs--unborn innocent children, in your terminology. If S/He doesn't have a problem with it, I don't see why you do.

Alternatively, you could suppose that God isn't constrained by mere biological mechanics and can bind a soul to an egg whenever S/He sees fit, taking into consideration the fore-known decisions of the parents (if you're into predetermination) or delaying the binding until the parents' decision is made.

Of course God probably doesn't exist so arguing about souls is kinda ridiculous. Instead you could just look at facts, like that laws banning abortions do nothing to lower the abortion rate, it just moves it into the black market or involves dangerous do-it-yourself remedies, and that having a safe, clean, legal, affordable way to deal with unwanted pregnancies is probably best for all parties involved and society at large.

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 09:02 PM
Most anti-choicers I've seen say that human life begins at conception; that is, the moment an egg is fertilized by a sperm. But between 60-80% of fertilized eggs fail to implant in the uterus. Furthermore, about 50% of implanted eggs will spontaneously abort. So God, if you like, is aborting the majority of fertilized eggs--unborn innocent children, in your terminology. If S/He doesn't have a problem with it, I don't see why you do.

Alternatively, you could suppose that God isn't constrained by mere biological mechanics and can bind a soul to an egg whenever S/He sees fit, taking into consideration the fore-known decisions of the parents (if you're into predetermination) or delaying the binding until the parents' decision is made.

Of course God probably doesn't exist so arguing about souls is kinda ridiculous. Instead you could just look at facts, like that laws banning abortions do nothing to lower the abortion rate, it just moves it into the black market or involves dangerous do-it-yourself remedies, and that having a safe, clean, legal, affordable way to deal with unwanted pregnancies is probably best for all parties involved and society at large.

Better get settled on that "probably" part before you hang your eternal soul on being a proponent of the murder of innocents.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 09:23 PM
i always kinda figured, if there was a god, he would appreciate our efforts here on earth what with all the little childrens he takes back up to heaven on a daily basis around the world.

hes only one god and there are only so many hours in the day...

so maybe a hearty pat on the back and cold 12 pack await, i guess you just gotta have faith...

fredsanford
01-07-2013, 09:29 PM
sorry shab- but I cannot in anyway condone the killing of an unborn innocent child

women should think about it before they spread their legs and allow some jerkoff to enter without a condom

Thank goodness you can condone a complete lack of concern for those children after they're born.

g8orbill
01-07-2013, 09:29 PM
not something you have huh gs- Faith

g8orbill
01-07-2013, 09:30 PM
Thank goodness you can condone a complete lack of concern for those children after they're born.

not sure where you get that- but killing unborn kids is tantamount to murder in my eyes

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 09:42 PM
not something you have huh gs- Faith

faith in your religious doctrine, not a bit...it all seems a silly thing from the outside looking in to me.

and speaking on murder of the innocents....youve got to at least consider that your god and I are birds of a feather

"Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him, Abraham!' And he said, 'Here I am.' 2 And He said, 'Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you,"

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 09:54 PM
i always kinda figured, if there was a god, he would appreciate our efforts here on earth what with all the little childrens he takes back up to heaven on a daily basis around the world.

hes only one god and there are only so many hours in the day...

so maybe a hearty pat on the back and cold 12 pack await, i guess you just gotta have faith...

See, GS has it all figured out. He can blaspheme God without a second thought.
Now, GS if you want to really be cool in the eyes of your atheist buddies you could blaspheme the Holy Spirit. That one is unforgivable and would really seal your eternal destiny. Give you lots of atheist cred. Go ahead.

PIMking
01-07-2013, 09:59 PM
planned parenthood should be banned from killing unborn children

hell if it were up to me I would defund pp yesterday

it's ironicc that it's not a tragedy when they killed over 300k last year but as soon as the baby passes the birth canal and the country is up in arms.

Ban doctors

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:03 PM
you can blaspheme the holy spirit separately?

do tell?

i usually skip jeebus but have never really considered blaspheming the holy spirit...but the street cred angle is intriguing...

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:12 PM
you can blaspheme the holy spirit separately?

do tell?

i usually skip jeebus but have never really considered blaspheming the holy spirit...but the street cred angle is intriguing...

Nice dodge. Give it your best shot. Seal the deal. We're all waiting.

rivergator
01-07-2013, 10:16 PM
See, GS has it all figured out. He can blaspheme God without a second thought.
Now, GS if you want to really be cool in the eyes of your atheist buddies you could blaspheme the Holy Spirit. That one is unforgivable and would really seal your eternal destiny. Give you lots of atheist cred. Go ahead.

Is that a double dog dare? Seriously, "unforgiveable ... seal your eternal destiny?"
I think you may take the board a bit too seriously if you think what's said here determine's a person's eternal destiny. You figure St. Peter's going to be standing there with a printout?

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:23 PM
Nice dodge. Give it your best shot. Seal the deal. We're all waiting.

ill have to google it...i honestly have never thought of blasphemy against just the holy spirit

brb

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:23 PM
Is that a double dog dare? Seriously, "unforgiveable ... seal your eternal destiny?"
I think you may take the board a bit too seriously if you think what's said here determine's a person's eternal destiny. You figure St. Peter's going to be standing there with a printout?

I think GS can speak for himself. Here's his chance to stand in the face of God and seal his eternal destiny. No more dodging.

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:28 PM
ill have to google it...i honestly have never thought of blasphemy against just the holy spirit

brb

You've never had a problem before trashing God. Why the hesitancy? C'mon you don't believe the bible. You're big and brave. Just do it. Call the holy spirit a fraud. That'll do it.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:28 PM
ok...maybe i should invest a bit more time but this seems to alleviate any further research plus the kids are getting baths so my attention is a bit divided..

Therefore, "blasphemy against the Holy Ghost" can be understood as a continued and persistently stubborn rejection of the gospel of salvation. This would be an "unpardonable sin" because as long as a person remains in unbelief, he voluntarily excludes himself from forgiveness of sin.

so if thats the low bar im in like flynn....

while i think the idea behind jesus is ok it really pails in comparison to other older and more spiritual paths one might choose so lets call that an outright rejection of salvation on my part...

we good?

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:33 PM
You figure St. Peter's going to be standing there with a printout?

or maybe a screenshot pasted into a word doc so HR can open it

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:35 PM
ok...maybe i should invest a bit more time but this seems to alleviate any further research plus the kids are getting baths so my attention is a bit divided..



so if thats the low bar im in like flynn....

while i think the idea behind jesus is ok it really pails in comparison to other older and more spiritual paths one might choose so lets call that an outright rejection of salvation on my part...

we good?

Still dodging buddy. You trying to keep the door open? Go ahead and spit out some good atheist bile at the Holy Spirit and show us that you really don't care about your eternal soul.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:38 PM
like what man....i want to make you happy, i just dont know how...that website said all i ahd to do was reject the salvation of jesus...done

give me a hint....want me to call god a sheepf**ker or something...

throw a dog a bone and im on it...

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:50 PM
like what man....i want to make you happy, i just dont know how...that website said all i ahd to do was reject the salvation of jesus...done

give me a hint....want me to call god a sheepf**ker or something...

throw a dog a bone and im on it...

You're getting there. Just say that to the Holy Spirit and we're done.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 10:52 PM
ho·ly spir·it
Noun
(in Christianity) The third person of the Trinity; God as spiritually active in the world.

is that a definition of the holy spirit we both agree on?

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 10:56 PM
ho·ly spir·it
Noun
(in Christianity) The third person of the Trinity; God as spiritually active in the world.

is that a definition of the holy spirit we both agree on?

That's right. But when you blaspheme the Holy Spirit don't use words that have to be bleeped out. We don't want there to be any doubt. Just call the Holy Spirit a fraud. That will take care of you.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 11:12 PM
god, his son, and the holy spirit are frauds...and worthy of less consideration than unkempt toenails.

i do not now nor have ever considered they, them, him to be a viable spiritual path for man...

are we now good?

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 11:14 PM
after everything is said and done...i really have to question whether this conversation was held with a follower of christs teachings.

really, if we were in biblical times....its seems you would fall into the category of legion, tempting his children into arrogant blasphemy.

wargunfan
01-07-2013, 11:20 PM
after everything is said and done...i really have to question whether this conversation was held with a follower of christs teachings.

really, if we were in biblical times....its seems you would fall into the category of legion, tempting his children into arrogant blasphemy.

I see that the atheist is going to try to use scripture to hide from his blasphemy. You are not a child of God until He makes you one. You are not an atheist. You don't have the courage of a true atheist. You are at best an agnostic parading as an atheist. Ask God to forgive you for your blasphemy. He will. Ask God to reveal Himself to you and give you saving faith and never, ever blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Good night GS.

ChartsandGrafs
01-07-2013, 11:23 PM
The dirty little secret behind the history of Planned Parenthood is that it was founded and funded by very vocal, very dedicated eugenicists, specifically Margaret Sanger and the Rockefeller Foundation, which was heavily involved in the eugenics movement early last century. Planned Parenthood's intended purpose was basically to attempt to limit the number of black children being born in black communities, which were institutionally kept poor and disadvantaged by the same government they now worship.

So isn't it interesting the way Leftists and liberals rally around Planned Parenthood today?

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 11:27 PM
i certainly appreciate the kind thoughts wargun but ive long ago decided that spending an eternity with pious christians would be the very hell you would like me in so...no

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 11:32 PM
So isn't it interesting the way Leftists and liberals rally around Planned Parenthood today?many uncomfortable truths surround histories great institutions buts thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.

ChartsandGrafs
01-07-2013, 11:48 PM
many uncomfortable truths surround histories great institutions buts thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.

I don't know, man. In the case of Planned Parenthood, it wouldn't be such a bad idea. It's founding and support over the years has been pretty despicable. It's not like the history I mentioned is totally unknown, either. It's just covered up and ignored by its proponents. It's an inconvenient truth they'd rather not have mentioned.

gs_gator
01-07-2013, 11:55 PM
like most things, the idea evolved a bit...

historical nastiness aside...they provide a needed service today.

ChartsandGrafs
01-08-2013, 12:08 AM
like most things, the idea evolved a bit...

historical nastiness aside...they provide a needed service today.

What's it truly motivated by, though? I'm talking about the provision of the service here. What is Planned Parenthood's true agenda? We know what it's agenda was at its founding. What about now? Is there any reason to believe the agenda changed? Any chance the idea is to still provide society with a way to dispose of poor, undesirable people, and limit their reproduction?

Be honest, would you continue supporting and defending Planned Parenthood if you knew that this is what their agenda truly is? Does the end justify the means?

gs_gator
01-08-2013, 01:00 AM
black and white answer in all honesty, yes...

we can discuss the grey if you would like...

ChartsandGrafs
01-08-2013, 02:11 AM
black and white answer in all honesty, yes...

we can discuss the grey if you would like...

Can you not see how wrong that is? Poor people in America are largely poor because of the system in place. The monetary system, the legal system, the education system - all of it has been developed to keep the poor people poor and the rich people rich. It's a system based on control. The poor aren't responsible for creating this system. They weren't asked. They didn't have a choice. They were born into it.

Planned Parenthood isn't a rational or moral solution to this problem. The real solution is advocating to change the system as it currently functions.

gs_gator
01-08-2013, 02:31 AM
Can you not see how wrong that is? Poor people in America are largely poor because of the system in place. The monetary system, the legal system, the education system - all of it has been developed to keep the poor people poor and the rich people rich. It's a system based on control. The poor aren't responsible for creating this system. They weren't asked. They didn't have a choice. They were born into it.

i can certainly see how wrong it is but the world where my life is to be lived has never been a moral or rational one, at least not during the era of man.

so it is up to me to make the most of that world, on the best terms that i can create for myself under the rules imposed by either choice or force.

if population control falls on the backs of the poor...thats just the way it is.

bluelang
01-08-2013, 03:19 AM
Two out of every five pregnancies of black women are terminated by abortion. If that number goes to three of five the race will disappear. I wonder how blacks feel about those numbers?

That number is not accurate. It's based on some data from NYC from a few years ago.

Anyways, ignoring the weird assertion that only America has black people, 3/5 would still sustain the "race," depending on the number of pregnancies per woman and the number of fathers.

PSA, no charge. (There are black people in other places)

Spurffelbow833
01-08-2013, 04:08 AM
Better get settled on that "probably" part before you hang your eternal soul on being a proponent of the murder of innocents.

I love how the "murder of innocents" is so cleanly divided between liberals who don't care about unborn babies getting ripped out of wombs and conservatives who don't care about old men, women, and children getting massacred in countries we had no business invading.

fredsanford
01-08-2013, 05:50 AM
not sure where you get that- but killing unborn kids is tantamount to murder in my eyes

From the right's total lack of concern about life AFTER birth.

g8orbill
01-08-2013, 06:28 AM
pure bs shab