Ship numbers update???

[gymgator]

Where is Fox with his great spreadsheet?

Best I can recall...
13 SRs
4 NFL Jumps
6 Transfers (and counting): Mann, Bailey, Saunders, Patchen, Brissett & Johnson
7 Open ships under the 85 limit (Was 77, but then Garcia took one ship)

That is 30 total open ships for 2013. The SR Class next year will have 16 if I recall and there will be the normal 2-4 transfers/medical etc. So while I don't expect us to take 30 players in this class, I would like to confirm the my numbers.

I would not be surprised to see more transfers include a QB, RB, OL, TE, DE and OLB.

[StrangeGator]

Seems to change by the hour, for us anyway. My guess is that the coaches aren't too surprised by anything that happens this time of year.

[ETGator1]

30 is up to date and we have 26 commits. Looks like we will sign 30 out of WR/DE/DT/TE/FB.

Do we take back Quinton Powell at LB if he begs back into the class?

For a change, I'd like to see UF get as close to 85 as possible without going over. I want to get back to reloading rather than rebuilding.

[gator07]

30 is correct, for now.

With 8 EE's, this class could have up to 33 (25+8) players max should 3 more players transfer.

[StrangeGator]

Don't want to end up short on available ships next year. Lots of talent on the board. With recent reliance on JUCO interior linemen, we'll need to go heavy to replace guys that are just here for two years. We need TEs, probably more LBs and the usual number of RBs and DBs. You'd have to project four or five out of this class leaving early. It's never too soon to try to find their replacements.

[GATORAZ]

We should fill all 30 spots. You dont save scholarships if good players want to join.

[gymgator]

Next years class will be smaller than this one, but still should be 20-22 at a minimum. That is when programs can really focus on quality and focus on the best of the best.

[The_Graygator]

We have 26 right now, and I expect about two more and we're done unless someone else big-time wants in.

[GATORAZ]

We have 26 right now, and I expect about two more and we're done unless someone else big-time wants in.

why would we stop taking players?

[The_Graygator]

why would we stop taking players?

I don't think we would stop taking players, per-say, just that I just don't think we're going to get "every" player we want. Do you think we hit 30 in this class?

Myself, I just want one more DT and Buck/DE in this class and I'm doing the Snoopy Dance. :wink:

[UFFL]

I hope we get Swanson, Collins, Adams, and Daniel. I'd like to get Ramsey or Alexander, but the FB position is important and we're loaded at DB

[GATORAZ]

I don't think we would stop taking players, per-say, just that I just don't think we're going to get "every" player we want. Do you think we hit 30 in this class?

Myself, I just want one more DT and Buck/DE in this class and I'm doing the Snoopy Dance. :wink:

It matters how long they can get the plan B and C guys to hold off their commitment to other school. There are more players that the staff is talking to than the usual suspects people like Raph Andrades

[The_Graygator]

It matters how long they can get the plan B and C guys to hold off their commitment to other school. There are more players that the staff is talking to than the usual suspects people like Raph Andrades

Andrades wanted big-time to be a Gator, and I still believe he's a Doering in the rough.

[GATORAZ]

Andrades wanted big-time to be a Gator, and I still believe he's a Doering in the rough.

The year prior we took Graham Stewart.

Say James Clark decides to be a Gator and we have an extra scholarship on signing day a kid like his teammate DE Davarez Bryant could end up a Gator

Here are his hihglights he has offers from Louisville and Kentucky he will vist both soon
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1848928/davarez-bryant

[The_Graygator]

Interesting conundrum.

[corpgator]

We should take 30. The silly notion that we should save ships for the next year has killed our depth the last few years.

[phideltdj]

I agree...it's time to take the maximum. You take as many as you can or want as I can't remember the last time we had a full squad of players.

[ETGator1]

25 + 8 = 33. I say fill it up and get into reload mode. That fill up mark right now is 30. If we have any more transfers add for that up to the 33 max.

Starting at 77 not counting the 2 walkons with ships, we got into trouble with depth as the season progressed and the injuries mounted. SC is under a NCAA punishment limit of 75. Why would we hold back ships which has the effect of a self imposed probation? You can bet bama and LSU start fall practice with 85..........

[96Gatorcise]

Andrades wanted big-time to be a Gator, and I still believe he's a Doering in the rough.

Actually he wanted to be a Nole but Jimbo told him he was to small and didn't offer him.

My girlfriend's daughter is good friends with Andrades, they graduated together from Lincoln High and still talk regularly.

After the UF/FSU game RA went up to Jimbo and told him he should of signed him and then walked off.

[macman45]

Actually he wanted to be a Nole but Jimbo told him he was to small and didn't offer him.

My girlfriend's daughter is good friends with Andrades, they graduated together from Lincoln High and still talk regularly.

After the UF/FSU game RA went up to Jimbo and told him he should of signed him and then walked off.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't know where you get your info from my friend, but it is ALL fabricated.

[The_Graygator]

Actually he wanted to be a Nole but Jimbo told him he was to small and didn't offer him.

My girlfriend's daughter is good friends with Andrades, they graduated together from Lincoln High and still talk regularly.

After the UF/FSU game RA went up to Jimbo and told him he should of signed him and then walked off.

Not what I heard, I know people who know him personally as well. Friend of mine's son played ball with him and knows him very well too. One of us was told the wrong thing about him.

[tommyuf21]

25 + 8 = 33. I say fill it up and get into reload mode. That fill up mark right now is 30. If we have any more transfers add for that up to the 33 max.

Starting at 77 not counting the 2 walkons with ships, we got into trouble with depth as the season progressed and the injuries mounted. SC is under a NCAA punishment limit of 75. Why would we hold back ships which has the effect of a self imposed probation? You can bet bama and LSU start fall practice with 85..........

Attrition is so much higher than when all of us old farts were at UF.

That's why I say fill up. I trust the coaches not to waste a ship on someone they know won't produce.

[ETGator1]

Nick Alajajian is done due to injury. We're now up to 31 with a max of 33. That 5 slots left to fill.

[gymgator]

In addition to Nick A., I still see another QB, RB, OL, TE, DE and OLB as possible departures.

So we could have more than 30+ in this class.

[ETGator1]

With Anzalone replacing Brown as our 8th EE, we can take up to 33 if we have more attrition. Right now, we can take 31, 4 more players, before we hit the 85 team cap.

[UFreak]

In addition to Nick A., I still see another QB, RB, OL, TE, DE and OLB as possible departures.

So we could have more than 30+ in this class.

Edit: Wait, did you mean additions and typed departures by accident? Then it makes sense.


Name some names or spill some inside info. Because I do not see this.
I guess it is possible that Tyler Murphy could bolt, but he has a great chance to be the No. 2 QB behind Driskel and No. 2s often find their way on the field.

Mack Brown will be competing for the No. 1 tailback spot all the way up until the first game.

OL - I guess it's always possible, but I don't I can't think of one who would leave.

TE - We are really depth shy there, a TE would be foolish to leave because they are going to get some PT.

DE - Maybe Kedrick Johnson would leave, maybe???

OLB - I don't see it. We are depth shy at linebacker and our upper classmen will play a lot next year. Unless someone is just not happy at UF. I don't see it.

[GATORAZ]

we have 27 commits now so we have 3 spots left for a total of 30. If the right kids want in I think we will oversign y 1 or 2.

[gymgator]

Freak, no, I meant departures. I have no inside information, which is why I won't name names. It is pure speculation on my part. But there were NON redshirting, non injured players that never or hardly got to play this season.

If you will be a RS SO next year and are NOT in the two deep...it might be time.

[ETGator1]

With Nick Alajajian leaving, we can take 31 without oversigning. If we have more to leave, we can take 33 max.

[GATORAZ]

With Nick Alajajian leaving, we can take 31 without oversigning. If we have more to leave, we can take 33 max.

I am pretty sure nick was already counted in the numbers and the number is 30 right ow

[ETGator1]

BTW, neither Machan or Foley will allow greyshirting or oversigning. It would be in teams best interest for Muschamp to identify those additional players leaving before national signing day.

[ETGator1]

We can take 4 more at this time.

[ETGator1]

Blake Alderman at Rivals said 5 before Anzalone.

Zach A. at Gator Sport says 3 after Anzalone.

At this point, it isn't clear. Maybe someone here can figure it out and make it public instead of insider information? In any case, those wanting onboard need to take their seats.

[gymgator]

"I still see another QB, RB, OL, TE, DE and OLB as possible departures."

UFreak guessed I was thinking KJ, but since I didn't have any insider info, no need to confirm my guess. Jordan was the OLinemen I was guessing, but I thought it could be medical also.

[GATORAZ]

the two graduating were pretty much a given especially Ali thats why I kept saying some might just graduate

[ETGator1]

25+8=33
52+33=85

We will be sitting on 85 if we take 33.

Given that we are at 27 and our list of possibles has gotten short, we might not fill up. I guess that would leave room for some 14 EEs to count back?

[Gatorrick22]

We have 6 ships left to give as of today.

[ETGator1]

Do we have 6 likely left on the board?

[Briang8r]

We have 6 ships left to give as of today.

Are we going to fill all those? I can't think of 6 prospects we're likely to close with. I guess it would be good to reserve a ship or two for a signing day surprise.

[Gatorrick22]

Are we going to fill all those? I can't think of 6 prospects we're likely to close with. I guess it would be good to reserve a ship or two for a signing day surprise.

I'm not sure. But, if we do fill out our limit I hope we get quality versus quantity for the sake of just adding bodies.

[revthejedi]

Clark, Nkemdiche, Swanson and pocket the rest.

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[Briang8r]

Clark, Nkemdiche, Swanson and pocket the rest.

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Unfortunately, Nkemdiche doesn't seem likely. Adams and Ramsey are definitely takes if they so desire. T. Bower and Q. Powell are still possible, and I'd imagine their commitments would be welcomed by the staff also.

[GATORAZ]

Clark, Nkemdiche, Swanson and pocket the rest.

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Why pocket scholarships?

[TnCamoGator]

I'd like to see the last few spots go to these players:

1.) Swanson FB
2.) Collins RB
3.) Clark WR
4.) Ramsey CB
5.) Adams or Bostwick (I've heard Bostwick has grade issues so not sure with him entirely)
6.) a TE or NSD surprise (a flip from bowers would be nice).

[Gatorrick22]

Why pocket scholarships?

Yeah, I'm not too fond of that practice either.

[gator1986]

Yeah, I'm not too fond of that practice either.

Yea if you got them use them lol kind of an odd answer...

[corpgator]

We've been pocketing them for a decade. It really hurt us this year when we could have used the depth to beat UGA. We played at 75 all year. Use them while you got them and worry about next year, next year.

[revthejedi]

Why pocket scholarships?

My thinking is that the staff should focus on the 3-4 elite guys we're still in the mix for instead of reaching in order to fill roster slots. Maybe I'm wrong....

[Jaggator]

We've been pocketing them for a decade. It really hurt us this year when we could have used the depth to beat UGA. We played at 75 all year. Use them while you got them and worry about next year, next year.

It wasn't the depth that cost us against UGA. We could have had 100 players ready for that game but that wouldn't change the outcome. It was the 6 turnovers. You're not beating many teams on your schedule ever with that many turnovers no matter who you play.

[GATORAZ]

My thinking is that the staff should focus on the 3-4 elite guys we're still in the mix for instead of reaching in order to fill roster slots. Maybe I'm wrong....

If they dont think they can help they wont sign them. Time and focus is not the issue.

[Gatorrick22]

It wasn't the depth that cost us against UGA. We could have had 100 players ready for that game but that wouldn't change the outcome. It was the 6 turnovers. You're not beating many teams on your schedule ever with that many turnovers no matter who you play.

And several had the flu, which does weaken the body.

[corpgator]

It wasn't the depth that cost us against UGA. We could have had 100 players ready for that game but that wouldn't change the outcome. It was the 6 turnovers. You're not beating many teams on your schedule ever with that many turnovers no matter who you play.

That's why we lost the game, sure. But don't you think if we had better players out there we would have stood a better chance of winning? Otherwise you're saying we had no chance no matter who we put out there.

[gymgator]

We had 20 JRs, 4 left early, so we will only have 16 ships open to graduation. Estimate 4-8 transfers, medical, NFL jumps and we are back to a 20-22 ship class in 2014. I am good with that.

The staff must feel they NEED another DE with all the ones they have visiting, so I have to think they will sign one more. Is Miss St commit, Jones still visiting? I think Daniels wants to be a Gator and has an official set for 2/1, but bad grades seem to continue to be an issue.

I think they would like another DT and I think Reed is the most likely candidate here.

Flips: They will do everything they can for Ramsey, so we will see, but he has to have a spot if he wants it.

I am not feeling Clark or Collins. They are great players and I would love for them to be Gators, but I have a feeling UF is in the "also considered" footnote.

FB Swanson wants to be a Gator, and if he redshirts he could be next in line behind Joyer. With extra ships this might be the year to take FB.

Still think another QB, RB, TE & OLB could transfer after Spring.

[ETGator1]

Jones is not visiting.

[StrangeGator]

We had 20 JRs, 4 left early, so we will only have 16 ships open to graduation. Estimate 4-8 transfers, medical, NFL jumps and we are back to a 20-22 ship class in 2014. I am good with that.

The staff must feel they NEED another DE with all the ones they have visiting, so I have to think they will sign one more. Is Miss St commit, Jones still visiting? I think Daniels wants to be a Gator and has an official set for 2/1, but bad grades seem to continue to be an issue.

I think they would like another DT and I think Reed is the most likely candidate here.

Flips: They will do everything they can for Ramsey, so we will see, but he has to have a spot if he wants it.

I am not feeling Clark or Collins. They are great players and I would love for them to be Gators, but I have a feeling UF is in the "also considered" footnote.

FB Swanson wants to be a Gator, and if he redshirts he could be next in line behind Joyer. With extra ships this might be the year to take FB.

Still think another QB, RB, TE & OLB could transfer after Spring.

True for Collins, but I don't think that's the case for Clark. We've been in in his top two for a while. Clemson has come into the picture, but that doesn't mean UF has fallen out. Might be that Northwestern is moving to the back of the line. I think he's still very interested in UF. BTW, Collins is crazy to go Miami. Don't know what he sees in that program.

[Gatorrick22]

I still think we get Clark.

[Gator4Christ]

Think we finish with Clark....and Powell (with an existing LB getting look at possible Buck)?

[GATORAZ]

I havent heard much about Alexander and Florida but the Clemson people seem to think we still have a shot. He is at Miss State with his brother this weekend.

[gymgator]

I thought AS said Mack Alexander was OUT! To high maintenance. Ramsey or bust.

I have no doubt Clark likes UF, but I am sure we land him. Happy to be wrong on Feb 6th.

[The_Graygator]

Well, I suppose that raises our available schollies to 33 now? That means we can bring in six more.

I'd love to get that 33 signed on NSD.

[Juggernautz]

I hope we get Swanson, Collins, Adams, and Daniel. I'd like to get Ramsey or Alexander, but the FB position is important and we're loaded at DB

You forgot Clark.

[UFFL]

You forgot Clark.

This was at a point where we were looking at possibly 4 scholarships left. I love Clark, but I felt we needed the other guys more. Now that we have more room, I'm really hoping he picks the Gators

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I will be very happy if James Clark is a part of this class. PLEASE don't be fooled by the three stars these services have given him. If he signs, he'll be the most explosive player in this class. Period.

[DieAGator]

If it were not in the cards for us to land another big time DL, Alex Collins is the next player I would want. I believe would keep our D off the field. If you don't have quite the DL you hoped, that is what you need.

[gymgator]

Reports are Clark love Clemson, may not visit UF...kinda what I thought.

[revthejedi]

Reports are Clark love Clemson, may not visit UF...kinda what I thought.

Who reported that?

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[gymgator]

The site that shall not be named... rhymes with "_ivals" ;)

[MadduxFanII]

The site that shall not be named... rhymes with "_ivals" ;)

The adorable mouse from "An American Tail" has a recruiting service?

[gymgator]

Yes...pay for subscriptions in rubles...

[NoahBeanBizzel]

We're fine with or without Clark.

[gymgator]

No love for the Russian currency joke?

NBB, I don't think anyone is saying Clark is a must have, but the consensus seems to be he is much better than his rating and honestly, we are NO WHERE with WR depth, so every kid is going to have a great shot get in the 2 deep.