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Dwebgator
01-05-2013, 08:25 PM
2013 DE Robert Nkemdiche 6-4 260
Grayson High School
Loganville GA

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Read an article where our recruits are pushing to get him and it sounds like they are close with him http://www.espngo1.com/news/2354-florida-commits-have-struck-a-strong-bond
Any chance we land him?

Dwebgator
01-05-2013, 08:26 PM
The part that talks about Robert is at the bottom of the article

GATORAZ
01-05-2013, 08:27 PM
no

AH1GatorChomper
01-05-2013, 08:32 PM
I wish.. but i dont think we have much of a chance of landing him.

GATORAZ
01-05-2013, 08:35 PM
Laquon Treadwell and Robert Nkemdiche went to the Ole Miss bowl game today and thats where they will be going to college

Dwebgator
01-05-2013, 08:36 PM
Ok thanks I was just curious

G8RNTN
01-06-2013, 11:45 AM
Forget about him...

nawlinsgator
01-06-2013, 12:20 PM
Mandy Perkins needs to show a bit more cleavage....then we might get a shot. I kid, I kid!

DuPontGator
01-06-2013, 01:06 PM
Mandy Perkins needs to show a bit more cleavage....then we might get a shot. I kid, I kid!

Where the pics at man.

gatorchamp27
01-07-2013, 12:22 PM
no shot

HudsonGator
01-07-2013, 05:15 PM
AJC had an article on him today saying that he will only visit Ole Miss and LSU.

My $$ is on him going to Ole Miss to play with his brother.

DeBigLeezard
01-07-2013, 05:32 PM
Well....
Honestly... that is GREAT for Ole Miss!
All of us should be very, very happy for what the University of Mississippi is doing over in Oxford.
Why?
It provide MORE PARITY to that Western Division in the SEC !!!
Every Gator Fan should love seeing what Texas A&M is doing.
All of us want a strong LSU.
Especially the two Mississippi schools...

Why?
Alabama has had a cakewalk the last eight years.
(Except for that ONE freakest year in which Laptop Newton was at Awbrin.)

Believe me... we want every percentage point in our favor when it comes down to WHO the Gumps have to play week in... and week out.

When the Gumps have to play tough teams in their own division PLUS those in the Eastern Division... then they get nicked up... beat up.
They start to lose key players.

Here is startling question?
How MANY times has Alabama and Georiga played each other over the last THIRTY YEARS?
I don't have the definitive answer to that... but if one looks... they will find that it has not been THAT OFTEN.
Over the decades....Vince Dooley and Bear Bryant purposely avoided playing each other.
They did not want to beat each other up.

Now, the irony of it all is:
Here you have two FLAGSHIP schools in the SEC that sit right next to each other... and they don't play each other on a regular basis.
Hmmmmmmmmmm?

LimeyGator
01-07-2013, 05:38 PM
I'd much prefer to see him at Ole Miss than at LSU...

your_perfect_enemy
01-07-2013, 05:42 PM
Well....
Honestly... that is GREAT for Ole Miss!
All of us should be very, very happy for what the University of Mississippi is doing over in Oxford.
Why?
It provide MORE PARITY to that Western Division in the SEC !!!
Every Gator Fan should love seeing what Texas A&M is doing.
All of us want a strong LSU.
Especially the two Mississippi schools...

Why?
Alabama has had a cakewalk the last eight years.
(Except for that ONE freakest year in which Laptop Newton was at Awbrin.)

Believe me... we want every percentage point in our favor when it comes down to WHO the Gumps have to play week in... and week out.

This is great in theory except they'll be pretty good for the two years we play them while whoever drops off our schedule that years hits its inevitable lull. Then our two years playing them will pass, freeze will leave and they go back to being ole miss for the 8 years we don't play them.

Claygator
01-08-2013, 03:46 PM
This is great in theory except they'll be pretty good for the two years we play them while whoever drops off our schedule that years hits its inevitable lull. Then our two years playing them will pass, freeze will leave and they go back to being ole miss for the 8 years we don't play them.

Sounds exactly right. Even more annoying for me is that my daughter attends Ole Miss, and I was really looking forward to playing them in Oxford in 2012. But nooo...

Tebowism0823
01-08-2013, 04:13 PM
Good for Ole Miss.

GatorAvatar
01-12-2013, 07:25 PM
Ok. Based on how Robert keeps talking to UF recruits on Twitter and over the phone I am ready to put my head on the block: he will be a Gator.

hgators
01-12-2013, 07:29 PM
What are you seeing?

VandyGator13
01-12-2013, 07:30 PM
Ok. Based on how Robert keeps talking to UF recruits on Twitter and over the phone I am ready to put my head on the block: he will be a Gator.

I thought he cancelled his visit and is down to Ole Miss and LSU?

Gatuar
01-12-2013, 07:42 PM
He just likes to chat with VHIII

Everybody likes Vernon...don't think it means he's cOming to UF

GatorAvatar
01-12-2013, 07:43 PM
What are you seeing?

He talks to several Gators including VH3, Anzelone, DRob, Caleb Brantley. Maybe I'm just reading way too much into it.

VandyGator13
01-12-2013, 08:01 PM
Maybe I'm just reading way too much into it.

+1

DrewLaing
01-12-2013, 09:12 PM
When I was at the Under Armour events last week, Nkemdiche told me KT was recruiting him to Florida hard. Nkemdiche said he was going to take an official visit to Florida this month.

But he came out recently and said he's just going to visit LSU and Ole Miss, so it looks like that ship has sailed for UF. Of course, I don't think it was ever in the harbor.

fl_champ
01-12-2013, 10:00 PM
When I was at the Under Armour events last week, Nkemdiche told me KT was recruiting him to Florida hard. Nkemdiche said he was going to take an official visit to Florida this month.

But he came out recently and said he's just going to visit LSU and Ole Miss, so it looks like that ship has sailed for UF. Of course, I don't think it was ever in the harbor.

Are you sure the ship was built in the first place?:laugh:

Gatorrick22
01-12-2013, 10:10 PM
Are you sure the ship was built in the first place?:laugh:

The "ship" is there if he wants to claim it. :yes:

GATORAZ
01-12-2013, 10:13 PM
lmao if people think he is coming to Florida

ArtDeco
01-12-2013, 10:19 PM
But he came out recently and said he's just going to visit LSU and Ole Miss, so it looks like that ship has sailed for UF. Of course, I don't think it was ever in the harbor.

So there's an asking price, it sounds like?

fl_champ
01-12-2013, 10:20 PM
lmao if people think he is coming to Florida

If he did, I'd be the first to question how many zeros were on the end of the check. I kid but believe with out a doubt he's playing ball with his brother next fall.

Gatorrick22
01-12-2013, 10:23 PM
lmao if people think he is coming to Florida

Didn't you practically say the same thing about Anzalone? :whistle:

Until he signs, no one really knows.

GATORAZ
01-12-2013, 10:28 PM
Didn't you practically say the same thing about Anzalone? :whistle:

Until he signs, no one really knows.


Gatorrick lets make a 3 month sig bet. If he goes to Florida you can put whatever in my sig for 3 months. If he goes to Ole miss I get to put whatever I want in your sig for 3 months.

ArtDeco
01-12-2013, 10:29 PM
The "ship" is there if he wants to claim it. :yes:

Hard for a scholar"ship" to beat out the actual yacht and floozies Ole Miss is offering.

Nicho
01-12-2013, 10:31 PM
Didn't you practically say the same thing about Anzalone? :whistle:

Until he signs, no one really knows.

Nkemdiche is not a legacy, so he has no emotional connection to the Gators. Apples and oranges compared to Anzalone.

Gatorrick22
01-12-2013, 10:50 PM
Gatorrick lets make a 3 month sig bet. If he goes to Florida you can put whatever in my sig for 3 months. If he goes to Ole miss I get to put whatever I want in your sig for 3 months.

Look AZ, I never said I thought he would in fact sign with us. I'm just not willing to write him off until he signs with Ole Miss..

Although I'd put our chances at less than 15% of landing him, it's still a chance. Better that "Dumb and Dumber"-s chances. :laugh:

dohcvtecpower
01-12-2013, 11:20 PM
Look AZ I never said I thought he would in fact sign with us. I'm just not willing to write him off until he signs with Ole Miss..

Although I'd put our chances at less than 15% of landing he, it's still a chance. Better that "Dumb and Dumber"-s chances. :laugh:

Az was wrong about Alex anzalone (I know I misspelled his last name).

stomp_and_chomp
01-12-2013, 11:42 PM
Az was wrong about Alex anzalone (I know I misspelled his last name).

Ehh, it happens... Can't call them all... I've been on a pretty good stretch tho! Only thing that didn't pan out was the Lincoln WR's... but still, 5 WR's in this class, I feel like that's 50% credit. :yes:

GATORAZ
01-12-2013, 11:46 PM
Ehh, it happens... Can't call them all... I've been on a pretty good stretch tho! Only thing that didn't pan out was the Lincoln WR's... but still, 5 WR's in this class, I feel like that's 50% credit. :yes:

How many OLmen did you say Florida was going to bring in ? I forget the number but nobody it was pretty high and you might end up right about that as well.

GATORAZ
01-12-2013, 11:50 PM
Nkemdiche is not a legacy, so he has no emotional connection to the Gators. Apples and oranges compared to Anzalone.

I was wrong about Alex. The truth is I always thought we had a shot with him. I was just sick of these stupid threads where a loss means a team is going to lose recruits. Or when Florida wins a game and people think every recruit is now going to pick the gators. It doesn't work that way.

stomp_and_chomp
01-12-2013, 11:59 PM
How many OLmen did you say Florida was going to bring in ? I forget the number but nobody it was pretty high and you might end up right about that as well.

I think I said 5 WR's and 5 OLinemen. I want to say we'll take 6 OL in the end. Another guard makes a lot of sense on paper... 2 OT's who have 2 years eligibility, 1 OT that we can coach up, 1 OG and 1 OC.

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 12:05 AM
I think I said 5 WR's and 5 OLinemen. I want to say we'll take 6 OL in the end. Another guard makes a lot of sense on paper... 2 OT's who have 2 years eligibility, 1 OT that we can coach up, 1 OG and 1 OC.

Lets be honest stomp that OG has a name, Ira:love:

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 12:11 AM
Lets be honest stomp that OG has a name, Ira:love:

Oh, Totally. I couldn't even name you another OL prospect besides Tunsil at this point.

There's only 8 (absolute tops) names in my head.

Ira Denson
Jalen Ramsey
Jason Hatcher
Jarran Reed
Montravius Adams
Jaynard Bostwick
Elijah Daniel
Chris Jones

If their name is not there, then I don't think we'll get them. Can never really tell with the kids we pull a day or 2 before NSD... even on the day.

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 12:18 AM
Oh, Totally. I couldn't even name you another OL prospect besides Tunsil at this point.

There's only 8 (absolute tops) names in my head.

Ira Denson
Jalen Ramsey
Jason Hatcher
Jarran Reed
Montravius Adams
Jaynard Bostwick
Elijah Daniel
Chris Jones

If their name is not there, then I don't think we'll get them. Can never really tell with the kids we pull a day or 2 before NSD... even on the day.

What about Swanson & Clark? I can promise you they are a head or Ira:joecool:
What do you think about Ryan Timmons & Kieth Bryant?

LAGatorDoc
01-13-2013, 12:18 AM
Oh, Totally. I couldn't even name you another OL prospect besides Tunsil at this point.

There's only 8 (absolute tops) names in my head.

Ira Denson
Jalen Ramsey
Jason Hatcher
Jarran Reed
Montravius Adams
Jaynard Bostwick
Elijah Daniel
Chris Jones

If their name is not there, then I don't think we'll get them. Can never really tell with the kids we pull a day or 2 before NSD... even on the day.

You missed Alex Collins. So lets put this in the coaches order:

Elijah Daniel
Montravius Adams
Jalen Ramsey
Chris Jones
Jaynard Bostwick slightly > Jarran Reed
Alex Collins
James Clark
Kenard Swanson (If grades are good enough)
if miss on above Elijah Daniel then Tashawn Bower and Jason Hatcher (don't know the order on these two, depends on visits)

If we miss on ALL of these and there is a ship left:
Ira Denson

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 12:37 AM
What about Swanson & Clark? I can promise you they are a head or Ira:joecool:
What do you think about Ryan Timmons & Kieth Bryant?

Swanson is a reasonable addition, but I think if it comes, it'll be on NSD. Clark, I think he is a really hot commodity at this moment... A lot of schools are selling him early time, and those teams don't nearly have the WR depth that we have in this class. We have a shot, but until recently his recruitment has been lackluster, now he is seeing places with the red carpet rolled out in front of him... we'll see how that affects him I guess.

Keith Bryant?! I didn't even know he decommitted from the U. He would be an epic pull, kid has talent. I guess I'd put him up in the Montravius / Jaynard / Jarran category.... I know we'll get at least 1 of those... as to which one, I have no idea _at all_... I don't really stress over that... I'd be happy to get any one of those. So why stress?!

Timmons, I can definitely see committing to tOSU in the next few days. I don't think he comes here.


You missed Alex Collins. So lets put this in the coaches order:

Elijah Daniel
Montravius Adams
Jalen Ramsey
Chris Jones
Jaynard Bostwick slightly > Jarran Reed
Alex Collins
James Clark
Kenard Swanson (If grades are good enough)
if miss on above Elijah Daniel then Tashawn Bower and Jason Hatcher (don't know the order on these two, depends on visits)

If we miss on ALL of these and there is a ship left:
Ira Denson

I left him off for a reason. I don't think we'll get Alex Collins. Maybe, and some people will say hopefully, we'll get him... I just don't see it happening. He'll recommit to Miami, imho.

Lemme re-shift that list:

Montravius Adams
Jarran Reed
Chris Jones
Jason Hatcher
Keith Bryant
Jalen Ramsey
Jaynard Bostwick
Elijah Daniel
James Clark
Ira Denson
Durham Smythe
Kennard Swanson

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 12:41 AM
Timmons, I can definitely see committing to tOSU in the next few days. I don't think he comes here.



OSU canceled his visit

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 12:45 AM
OSU canceled his visit

Ahhh, Did not know that! I'd say Arkansas then, that's his best offer. And he's pretty much in the category of Alton "Pig" Howard. I think Pig was/will be better.

Edit: Also, If OSU cancelled, then I am curious to the reasoning... They only have 1 WR committed. I am wondering if they thought he was a bit of a reach.

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 12:54 AM
Ahhh, Did not know that! I'd say Arkansas then, that's his best offer. And he's pretty much in the category of Alton "Pig" Howard. I think Pig was/will be better.

Edit: Also, If OSU cancelled, then I am curious to the reasoning... They only have 1 WR committed. I am wondering if they thought he was a bit of a reach.
They have some ATH that will play WR/ Percy position. Plus they are still recruiting some players they feel confident in. Timmons will probably go to Kentucky or Cincy if he doesnt get a Florida offer he eliminated Akry.

I think if Swanson has the grades the staff needs to take him. The fullback position is too important in the offense to only have one on the roster

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 01:24 AM
I think if Swanson has the grades the staff needs to take him. The fullback position is too important in the offense to only have one on the roster

If I were on the staff, I would have offered Kevin Ferguson Jr. and never looked back. SMH

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 01:27 AM
If I were on the staff, I would have offered Kevin Ferguson Jr. and never looked back. SMH

Why would you offer Kimbo Slice's son?:laugh:

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 02:03 AM
Why would you offer Kimbo Slice's son?:laugh:

He's like 6'2" / 6'3"... The kid is yoked out. He has a full-on man-beard. He also's wrestles and learns from his father, another yoked out beast.

I mean, really, to me, he looks like if he came into this program under Dillman, I couldn't even really imagine where he would be at...

And honestly, we only need a FB for short-yardage type packages... I could swear we used Hunter Joyer more the season before last. I would only think FB packages would go down since we have KT and Lane... and Jones.

Also, Kimbo Jr. has like a 3.6 GPA. Scholar-Athlete, right there.

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 02:12 AM
He's like 6'2" / 6'3"... The kid is yoked out. He has a full-on man-beard. He also's wrestles and learns from his father, another yoked out beast.

I mean, really, to me, he looks like if he came into this program under Dillman, I couldn't even really imagine where he would be at...

And honestly, we only need a FB for short-yardage type packages... I could swear we used Hunter Joyer more the season before last. I would only think FB packages would go down since we have KT and Lane... and Jones.

Also, Kimbo Jr. has like a 3.6 GPA. Scholar-Athlete, right there.

Have you seen Kimbo jr's film? He is like 5'9 185 lol:laugh: I dont know where you got this 6'3 stuff from

I like being able to have FB on the team Hunter has played well and I think Swanson will be a better player.

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 02:35 AM
Have you seen Kimbo jr's film? He is like 5'9 185 lol:laugh: I dont know where you got this 6'3 stuff from

I like being able to have FB on the team Hunter has played well and I think Swanson will be a better player.

Made it up for laughs, the GPA is spot on tho, I believe. In my mind, however, I think of him more as the coming of a beast among men. Imagine if we had Apollo Creed in his prime moving the rock. Epic.

Gatorrick22
01-13-2013, 03:02 AM
I was wrong about Alex. The truth is I always thought we had a shot with him. I was just sick of these stupid threads where a loss means a team is going to lose recruits. Or when Florida wins a game and people think every recruit is now going to pick the gators. It doesn't work that way.

I don't know whom you're referring to, but I stated that Anzalone might switch his commitment after his coach started taking interviews for NFL jobs, not after their beat-down to 'bama. Plus we all know that Alex was so close to choosing Florida the first time around that it seemed logical that he'd revisit his commitment to Notre Dame.

In the end it was an educated guess that he might take a look at us again and he did. I'm happy, you're happy...........it's good for all Gator Nation. :grin:

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 03:11 AM
I don't know whom you're referring to, but I stated that Anzalone might switch his commitment after his coach started taking interviews for NFL jobs, not after their beat-down to 'bama. Plus we all know that Alex was so close to choosing Florida the first time around that it seemed logical that he'd revisit his commitment to Notre Dame.

In the end it was an educated guess that he might take a look at us again and he did. I'm happy, you're happy...........it's good for all Gator Nation. :grin:

This is the thread

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=253669&page=4

Like I said I was wrong but I always though there was a chance but I was tired of thread like that one.

Gatorrick22
01-13-2013, 03:13 AM
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=253669&page=4

:yes::joecool:

Zach Abolverdi ‏@ZachAbolverdi

Brian Kelly staying at #ND. #Gators commits told me Alex Anzalone was talking #UF flip since early Jan, but #Eagles interview made it happen

Gatorrick22
01-13-2013, 03:17 AM
So if you had to put a percentage on it - what's our chances with Robert Nkemdiche?

MoscowGtr
01-13-2013, 05:57 AM
So if you had to put a percentage on it - what's our chances with Robert Nkemdiche?

0%. It is not going to happen. He says he is down to Ole Miss and LSU, but everything I have read suggests that he is really just down to Ole Miss.

LimeyGator
01-13-2013, 06:01 AM
0%. It is not going to happen. He says he is down to Ole Miss and LSU, but everything I have read suggests that he is really just down to Ole Miss.

I'd say 1 in a million...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/shaggz235/theresachance.jpg

MoscowGtr
01-13-2013, 06:44 AM
I think if Swanson has the grades the staff needs to take him. The fullback position is too important in the offense to only have one on the roster

I assume he is reasonably good if he had offers from LSU and WVa, but I wonder why everyone seems so sure that he is worth a 'ship at FB. The very limited film available of him running the ball was not impressive (which is not surprising given that he had only 12 carries all year as a senior: http://www.polkpreps.com/sports/players/1900/kennard-swanson-lake-gibson-braves/). Did he play FB at the camps or otherwise work out for the coaches at that position?

Gatorrick22
01-13-2013, 07:44 AM
0%. It is not going to happen. He says he is down to Ole Miss and LSU, but everything I have read suggests that he is really just down to Ole Miss.

And to add to that, his older brother plays for Ole Miss. already. But there's still Adams and Jones and a couple of other very good defensive lineman we could land.

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 03:57 PM
Derek Tyson @DerekTysonESPN
Just got off the phone with juco DT & #OleMiss commit Jarran Reed, gave Florida official a 1000 on scale of 1-10. Story coming soon. #Gators

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 04:15 PM
I assume he is reasonably good if he had offers from LSU and WVa, but I wonder why everyone seems so sure that he is worth a 'ship at FB. The very limited film available of him running the ball was not impressive (which is not surprising given that he had only 12 carries all year as a senior: http://www.polkpreps.com/sports/players/1900/kennard-swanson-lake-gibson-braves/). Did he play FB at the camps or otherwise work out for the coaches at that position?

He is not going to be running the ball. I just like his athleticism for his body type plus he plays hard.

DieAGator
01-13-2013, 08:07 PM
Derek Tyson @DerekTysonESPN
Just got off the phone with juco DT & #OleMiss commit Jarran Reed, gave Florida official a 1000 on scale of 1-10. Story coming soon. #Gators If we finish with just Jarran is our D class a home run or do we need a Jarran and say Elijah to finish where we need to be?

He is not going to be running the ball. I just like his athleticism for his body type plus he plays hard.

FBs earn their money blocking. Can he do that?

GATORAZ
01-13-2013, 08:35 PM
FBs earn their money blocking. Can he do that?

I think he has the skill set to. I also think he has the "want to", that high school team he is on plays hard.

Tebowism0823
01-13-2013, 08:40 PM
He definitely has the size.

stomp_and_chomp
01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
If we finish with just Jarran is our D class a home run or do we need a Jarran and say Elijah to finish where we need to be?

DT Caleb Brantley, DT Darious Cummings
DT/DE Joey Ivie, DT/DE Antonio Riles
DE Jordan Sherit

That's pretty solid by itself, but adding Reed would give us a replacement for Floyd, imho. Reed has size and strength, would see time early and often. I know people like 4 year players, but our best DT is gone, and until NSD is over, his spot is unfilled. I know we have some options to fall back on in-house, but to me, having Jarran Reed and Damien Jacobs is a better gap between all the fresh DT's Champ got last year and what he pull in this year.

I know when we were recruiting Anzalone, it was said that we were recruiting him for Buck, also recently heard that again. And also, same goes for Sherit when we were recruiting him. I don't know who they will get to play Buck out of this class, seems like there's a few candidates already in the fold... But if we were handing out scholly's based on talent for the Buck position, then I think (if his grades are good) Elijah Daniel gets one. I feel Daniel is the best option for Buck at this point. Worse case scenario, he gains more weight and becomes a DE... Still going to be a scary, just at DE. (Besides, Fowler has the Buck locked up for the next 2 years.)

I know 8 sounds like A LOT for this years DL class, considering last years huge haul, but I think that's a pretty realistic number. I know we will take another DE and I know we will take another DT, whether or not we take anymore, I dunno, but I can see the 8th member being a big one (as in a DT).

GatorAvatar
01-15-2013, 11:05 AM
I will say it again: I predict Robert to sign with the good guys. I'm not an insider nor have any knowledge about recruiting. But based on what I read between Robert and UF commits, I think we get him. Now I hear he is making an official visit this weekend.

GatorAvatar
01-15-2013, 11:07 AM
0%. It is not going to happen. He says he is down to Ole Miss and LSU, but everything I have read suggests that he is really just down to Ole Miss.

Keith Niebuhr (@Niebuhr247) tweeted at 7:01 AM on Tue, Jan 15, 2013:
And here it is: Is No. 1 recruit Robert Nkemdiche planning a #Gators visit? http://t.co/YLW5auDp
(https://twitter.com/Niebuhr247/status/291198425507196929)

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DieAGator
01-15-2013, 11:50 AM
This staff is really amazing. Now they may not close as well as we hope but they sure are trying and putting themselves in position to make us proud. I'm just really impressed. I would love to be in on their planning and strategy sessions.

Gatorrick22
01-15-2013, 01:05 PM
If we steal him away from Ole Miss. I'll be as elated as anyone here. This would be the biggest story of the recruiting season......for sure.

Gatorrick22
01-15-2013, 01:11 PM
Gatorrick lets make a 3 month sig bet. If he goes to Florida you can put whatever in my sig for 3 months. If he goes to Ole miss I get to put whatever I want in your sig for 3 months.

:whistle::wave:

You're right he'll probably end-up with his brother, but I'm sure you'd get over it if you lost this (no money) bet.

By the way, I'm not betting anything on this - I don't bet.

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 01:35 PM
:whistle::wave:

You're right he'll probably end-up with his brother, but I'm sure you'd get over it if you lost this (no money) bet.

By the way, I'm not betting anything on this - I don't bet.

make the bet or its like you never said it

Gatorrick22
01-15-2013, 01:41 PM
make the bet or its like you never said it

You know darn well you'd be as happy as I would be if he came here, regardless of some silly bet.

qwghlmgator
01-15-2013, 02:19 PM
Derek Tyson @DerekTysonESPN
Just got off the phone with juco DT & #OleMiss commit Jarran Reed, gave Florida official a 1000 on scale of 1-10. Story coming soon. #Gators

Ooop...I'm pretty sure that's enough to make the NCAA Clearinghouse flag his math scores. :yes:

UFreak
01-15-2013, 03:17 PM
You know darn well you'd be as happy as I would be if he came here, regardless of some silly bet.

GATORAZ. Speak up yo! Don't let pride get in the way of the Gators. Send out positive vibes!!!

missourigator
01-15-2013, 03:23 PM
Daniel is no longer an option. Where do we go from here?

LAGatorDoc
01-15-2013, 03:30 PM
Daniel is no longer an option. Where do we go from here?

Daniel. Because he is still an option and we have not moved on from him... Muschamp is planning an in home and he is still visiting, per E. Daniel.

Unless you have insider info stating he is no longer an option, get out.

Some people post things before they are true, to be the first. Spivey said this info is definitely NOT confirmed.

Nicho
01-15-2013, 03:32 PM
Daniel. Because he is still an option and we have not moved on from him... Muschamp is planning an in home and he is still visiting, per E. Daniel.

Unless you have insider info stating he is no longer an option, get out.

Some people post things before they are true, to be the first. Spivey said this info is definitely NOT confirmed.

Mizz: another troll I've ignored that only shows up when people quote him.

gator7_5
01-15-2013, 03:43 PM
Daniel. Because he is still an option and we have not moved on from him... Muschamp is planning an in home and he is still visiting, per E. Daniel.

Unless you have insider info stating he is no longer an option, get out.

Some people post things before they are true, to be the first. Spivey said this info is definitely NOT confirmed.

I posted that I read it, so blame me. I read it on a board posted by a source who is usually spot on with his info.

LAGatorDoc
01-15-2013, 05:13 PM
I posted that I read it, so blame me. I read it on a board posted by a source who is usually spot on with his info.

Thanks for the info. Still though. I have faith in Spivey and don't usually believe the other mumbo jumbo until he says its true. There have been times when others report things and they end up not being true and Spivey said that he didn't get confirmation. There have also been other times where he confirms the reports of others. That's why I trust Spivey, he waits until something is definite before throwing something out there. Right now, there is still no confirmation from UF (or Elijah Daniel for that matter) and all indication is Muschamp is visiting him this week and he is still planning his OV. It may change, but it hasn't yet.

rserina
01-15-2013, 05:21 PM
I would be seriously bummed if we couldn't get Daniel. One of he or Walker were needed to solidify end for the next couple of years along with Bullard and Fowler. We can always fill the gap next year, but that means a true freshman might have to contribute immediately to round out the position and that always makes me a little clammy.

Hopefully if it is true, maybe we can get Daniel into a prep school and bring him back on board next year. The kid is good.

eastowest
01-15-2013, 06:58 PM
Is this a case where he isn't "Q" for us but is "Q" with others?

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 08:00 PM
Did we stop doing the sign and place thing? Daniel is a kid who would be well worth it.

UFFL
01-15-2013, 10:07 PM
Robert is trolling us pretty hard. Tweeting to Gator Nation asking for follows and to show him some love.

Gatorrick22
01-15-2013, 10:16 PM
Robert is trolling us pretty hard. Tweeting to Gator Nation asking for follows and to show him some love.

I don't tweet, could you post some of that here?

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:17 PM
Robert is trolling us pretty hard. Tweeting to Gator Nation asking for follows and to show him some love.

Robert is king troll ask Clemson

UFFL
01-15-2013, 10:18 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
If your with the gator nation show me some love and follow me .

UFFL
01-15-2013, 10:18 PM
Robert is king troll ask Clemson

what do you mean?

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:20 PM
what do you mean?

you do remember Robert committing to Clemson earlier in the year, getting Clemson to offer all of his friends even having his old QB transfer from Miss State to Clemosn right?

Gatorrick22
01-15-2013, 10:20 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
If your with the gator nation show me some love and follow me .

:grin:

There's no harm in showing him some love.

UFFL
01-15-2013, 10:21 PM
you do remember Robert committing to Clemson earlier in the year, getting Clemson to offer all of his friends even having his old QB transfer from Miss State to Clemosn right?

I remember him being committed to Clemson, I never knew the other part. Would like to have that other former Clemson commit though (Daniel). Do you buy the stories about him no longer visiting?

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:23 PM
I remember him being committed to Clemson, I never knew the other part. Would like to have that other former Clemson commit though (Daniel). Do you buy the stories about him no longer visiting?

I think his visit is up in the air it has been pushed back many times because of his grades and test scores

UFreak
01-15-2013, 10:24 PM
Robert is trolling us pretty hard. Tweeting to Gator Nation asking for follows and to show him some love.

What would be his goal in doing that? Does he think we will take our eye off the ball and stop recruiting others and only concentrate on him? I don't think so. Let the guy take his visit. His top school is Ole Piss. We actually could turn him. It could happen. Will it? Probably not. But at least he is coming in for a visit on a great weekend where the ODome will be rocking.
If he doesn't come here, well, we at least tried and gave it our best shot.

There are some really crazy reasons sometimes as to why a player shifts to another leader. It does happen. He is the top player in the country. He can troll me all he wants. It's a chance we must take.

You never know. You never know.

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 10:25 PM
Excited about Robert but disappointed for Elijah. He was interested in UF early last spring. He chose us. He built his dreams around being a Gator while Robert was playing the big programs against each other. I hate that Daniel's academics are keeping him from UF because he will perceive that as rejection from the school he may have wanted the most. I don't know if it's grades or test scores, though I do know that Indiana public schools aren't much better than southern schools. I hope there's some way we can reassure him that we believe in him and want to find some way that he can become a Gator at some point. If we don't make this right. Coach Young will never be able to effectively recruit Indiana again for years. Bryant Young played high school football within a few miles of the Indiana border. He played at ND and he's a hero to players and coaches across the state. We need to establish a level of dedication and trust to this part of the country or we are going to make it harder to break into this part of the country. Never mind the fact that Daniel, his coach and his family gave UF every chance to bring Elijah into the fold.

I don't care who else we get at DE or Buck, but I want UF to make some kind of commitment to Elijah Daniel to go to prep school or JUCO and have a spot waiting for him when he's finished. Better yet, let's give him an offer for this year and give him every chance to boost his GPA or improve his ACT score. My daughter added five points to her ACT on five attempts. Get this kid in a test prep class. Get him a tutor. If Dante Phillips could go from early entry to not being admitted, couldn't Daniel close the gap in the opposite direction?

UFreak
01-15-2013, 10:27 PM
you do remember Robert committing to Clemson earlier in the year, getting Clemson to offer all of his friends even having his old QB transfer from Miss State to Clemosn right?

So are you saying his goal is to have other programs make huge mistakes by recruiting players he wants th to recruit? Are you saying his goal is not only to go to a certain school, but also to try and cripple the recruiting of other schools?

If so, I completely 100 percent disagree.

UFFL
01-15-2013, 10:28 PM
UFreak I wasn't knocking the kid, I think he does have genuine interest. I also don't think we have a chance in hell. I'd like to be wrong of course

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:29 PM
So are you saying his goal is to have other programs make huge mistakes by recruiting players he wants th to recruit? Are you saying his goal is not only to go to a certain school, but also to try and cripple the recruiting of other schools?

If so, I completely 100 percent disagree.

What are you talking about I said none of that.

UFreak
01-15-2013, 10:32 PM
What are you talking about I said none of that.

Where you said he trolled Clemson.

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:35 PM
Where you said he trolled Clemson.
I didnt say anything you said.

What would you call it? How do you think Clemson feels right now?

UFreak
01-15-2013, 10:35 PM
There are different levels of trolling. Omission and commission. If you re-read my post, you will notice that I asked the question. I was not sure which way you meant it. Hence the question and not a statement.

Zanso
01-15-2013, 10:38 PM
He actually legitimately likes UF and the recruits and we would be in the running if Olemiss wasn't in the picture.

I'd say his interest level is 99% ole miss, then the 1% split among every other school lol.

UFreak
01-15-2013, 10:40 PM
UFreak I wasn't knocking the kid, I think he does have genuine interest. I also don't think we have a chance in hell. I'd like to be wrong of course

Word, word. I'd say Troy University doesn't have a chance in hell. He's visiting us and is the No. 1 recruit in the country. We have a better chance than I would say 98 percent of the other FBS schools. That's better than a chance in hell. Saulumsayin :)

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 10:44 PM
He actually legitimately likes UF and the recruits and we would be in the running if Olemiss wasn't in the picture.

I'd say his interest level is 99% ole miss, then the 1% split among every other school lol.
If he actually makes it on campus I will give Florida a 3 percent chance.
I hope his head coach comes I would be more excited for that so the staff can establish a relationship with Grayson.

StrangeGator
01-15-2013, 10:52 PM
So are we done with Daniel?

LAGatorDoc
01-15-2013, 10:57 PM
If he actually makes it on campus I will give Florida a 3 percent chance.
I hope his head coach comes I would be more excited for that so the staff can establish a relationship with Grayson.

His dad is coming on the trip. His dad didn't even go to Clemson, and I don't know if he went to UGa either

LAGatorDoc
01-15-2013, 10:58 PM
So are we done with Daniel?

NO!!!!!!!! nothing is confirmed about grades

raidsgt
01-15-2013, 11:00 PM
Another and THE.... are the difference here

@UF he'll be regarded as just "ANOTHER" guy on that powerful front seven...

@ol Siss he's "THE GREATEST IN SCHOOL HISTORY"

My opinion 99.5% rebel. . (Brother is there, and thats what momma wants)

Sure hope I'm wrong though, this would be a historical defensive class if CWM can pull it off...

Go gators

Lawdog88
01-15-2013, 11:33 PM
^^^ If so, big fish, little pond, mediocre college career, losing team record.

UF = Different; competitive, challenged, grows, develops technique, coached by Pro Bowlers, wins.

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 11:40 PM
Dline coach at Ole Miss is Chris Kiffin

raidsgt
01-15-2013, 11:44 PM
^^^ If so, big fish, little pond, mediocre college career, losing team record.

UF = Different; competitive, challenged, grows, develops technique, coached by Pro Bowlers, wins.

Like I said "hope I'm wrong"

but 18 year-olds who have been told how great and amazing they are since they were 14 years old. Do NOT use logic in thinking

GATORAZ
01-15-2013, 11:54 PM
Ole miss will be a good football team in the next few years. Especially with the class they are bringing in this year

Gatorrick22
01-16-2013, 12:18 AM
Dline coach at Ole Miss is Chris Kiffin

Lane has a sister?


:laugh:

Gatorrick22
01-16-2013, 12:21 AM
Ole miss will be a good football team in the next few years. Especially with the class they are bringing in this year

No match for 'bama, LSU, A&M or the mighty Gators! He's missing his chance for a BCSCG win if goes to Ole Miss..

UFreak
01-16-2013, 02:56 AM
No match for 'bama, LSU, A&M or the mighty Gators! He's missing his chance for a BCSCG win if goes to Ole Miss..

Word.

Gatorrick22
01-16-2013, 12:29 PM
His dad is coming on the trip. His dad didn't even go to Clemson, and I don't know if he went to UGa either

Are you sure? Because that's big news if it works out that way.

LAGatorDoc
01-16-2013, 12:39 PM
Are you sure? Because that's big news if it works out that way.

Spivey reported it so its solid. Maybe he backs out at the last minute, but as of now, that is the plan for the Nkiemdiche clan.

Gatorrick22
01-16-2013, 12:42 PM
Spivey reported it so its solid. Maybe he backs out at the last minute, but as of now, that is the plan for the Nkiemdiche clan.

That's a tidbit that might have a huge impact on his recruitment. Hope this plan falls into place.

StrangeGator
01-16-2013, 12:59 PM
Doesn't his family live in Lagos Nigeria? That's a heck of a dad that flies around the world to join his son for a college visit in Florida.

LAGatorDoc
01-16-2013, 01:04 PM
Doesn't his family live in Lagos Nigeria? That's a heck of a dad that flies around the world to join his son for a college visit in Florida.

His dad lives in Ga with his son. Part of the reason he turned down the job at Ole Miss is because he wanted to be close to his son in HS.

Dreamliner
01-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Doesn't his family live in Lagos Nigeria? That's a heck of a dad that flies around the world to join his son for a college visit in Florida.

Dad lives in Georgeria.

Nicho
01-16-2013, 02:15 PM
Dad lives in Georgeria.

Near Addis Atlanta?

woltes
01-16-2013, 02:40 PM
I really hope we can change his mind this weekend. Are best chance at landing a top DE is Daniel though. Any news on Alexander lateley?

StrangeGator
01-16-2013, 02:53 PM
Wish I knew what was going on with Daniel. There are rumors floating around that UF admissions might not let him visit. For his sake, I hope they are prompt and straight forward about his status. If he's not able to visit UF, he should be given adequate time to schedule a visit elsewhere. Hope this is just a rumor. I like this kid a lot. Coach Young has been working him since last February, if not longer. I think Elijah wants to be a Gator. Let's hope he gets to come in on his visit and make his commitment then.

Gatorrick22
01-16-2013, 02:56 PM
Dad lives in Georgeria.

:laugh:

StrangeGator
01-16-2013, 02:58 PM
I really hope we can change his mind this weekend. Are best chance at landing a top DE is Daniel though. Any news on Alexander lateley?

I think we can scratch Alexander. Our best chance is probably with Ramsey.

woltes
01-16-2013, 07:02 PM
Ramsey has visited and is now having a in home with Champ? Daniel and Ramsey finish would put extra icing on the cake.

LAGatorDoc
01-16-2013, 07:07 PM
Ramsey has visited and is now having a in home with Champ? Daniel and Ramsey finish would put extra icing on the cake.

Daniel is now gone. Didn't make the grades

woltes
01-16-2013, 07:15 PM
That is for sure?

LAGatorDoc
01-16-2013, 07:20 PM
That is for sure?

yup. I wrote it in another thread that AS confirmed the grades and it is a no-go. I repeat a no-go

jgriffis21
01-17-2013, 07:57 AM
Is Nkemdiche for sure visiting this weekend?

nawlinsgator
01-17-2013, 10:20 AM
yup. I wrote it in another thread that AS confirmed the grades and it is a no-go. I repeat a no-go

Are you sure, sure? I'm not sold yet.

gator7_5
01-17-2013, 10:46 AM
Are you sure, sure? I'm not sold yet.

Maybe you didn't read correctly. It's official when Spivey says it is. Spivey has spoken. Issue is closed.

Lawdog88
01-17-2013, 11:50 AM
Maybe you didn't read correctly. It's official when Spivey says it is. Spivey has spoken. Issue is closed.


Great. So who is Spivey ?

Gatorrick22
01-17-2013, 11:54 AM
Great. So who is Spivey ?

This is Andrew Spivey.

http://www.gatorcountry.com/author/AndrewSpivey/

AndrewSpivey
01-17-2013, 12:26 PM
Are you sure, sure? I'm not sold yet.

Barring something crazy. Daniel isn't coming to Florida

StrangeGator
01-17-2013, 03:34 PM
Barring something crazy. Daniel isn't coming to Florida

Just asked in another thread, but what happened here? Is this his decision, our coaches' or our admissions people? Who do we get instead?

themistocles
01-17-2013, 04:44 PM
Just asked in another thread, but what happened here? Is this his decision, our coaches' or our admissions people? Who do we get instead?

Apparently Grades last semester.

Every Florida State University System (SUS) school has the option of granting an exception to any student they think can perform, but who lacks one of the SUS minimal prerequisites for admission, and the SUS minimums are about the most difficult among state schools anywhere in the nation.

Research we have conducted at USF over the years shows that students admitted as exceptions tend to do as well as or better Academically than those who meet all the requirements.

Despite this, UF's Insane Admissions Office appears to absolutely hate to grant any exceptions. It is almost beyond my comprehension, because when I used to have access to the entire SUS's Admissions files back in the 1990s, almost every school admitted students as exceptions, some with Grade Point Averages (GPA) from high school of below 1.0. Frequently such were athletes in various sports, or talented musicians, or some such.

Anyway, Daniel ran afoul UF's Admissions Office as so very many quality athletes and people have in the past.

mikehev
01-17-2013, 05:59 PM
Based on a conversation I had today from someone somewhat close to the situation, Robert may not be a stretch after all. At the very least, I don't think the coaches are going into it with a "try our best and see what happens" approach. Sounds like they are going to really push hard when it comes to making this young man a priority. IMO they would not allocate their time and resources like that if they thought it was too much of a long shot.


In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

nwflgator_58
01-17-2013, 06:41 PM
Based on a conversation I had today from someone somewhat close to the situation, Robert may not be a stretch after all. At the very least, I don't think the coaches are going into it with a "try our best and see what happens" approach. Sounds like they are going to really push hard when it comes to making this young man a priority. IMO they would not allocate their time and resources like that if they thought it was too much of a long shot.


In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

I saw him several weeks ago, on one of the recruiting shows. He named us, along with LSU, Bama, Ole Miss and Clemson as "up there" on his list of schools. That was the first and only time I heard us mentioned, until this visit talk. It surprised me at the time, and when I didn't hear anything else, I just blew it off. But apparently he does have a serious interest.

Maybe, he is one of those silent commits that we always hear about, that the coaches tell to keep it quiet.

StrangeGator
01-18-2013, 09:35 AM
Apparently Grades last semester.

Every Florida State University System (SUS) school has the option of granting an exception to any student they think can perform, but who lacks one of the SUS minimal prerequisites for admission, and the SUS minimums are about the most difficult among state schools anywhere in the nation.

Research we have conducted at USF over the years shows that students admitted as exceptions tend to do as well as or better Academically than those who meet all the requirements.

Despite this, UF's Insane Admissions Office appears to absolutely hate to grant any exceptions. It is almost beyond my comprehension, because when I used to have access to the entire SUS's Admissions files back in the 1990s, almost every school admitted students as exceptions, some with Grade Point Averages (GPA) from high school of below 1.0. Frequently such were athletes in various sports, or talented musicians, or some such.

Anyway, Daniel ran afoul UF's Admissions Office as so very many quality athletes and people have in the past.

If that research was done with a sampling of USF students, I'm not surprised. That's an entirely different academic setting. They do a great job taking B and C students and turning them into scholars and then professionals, but the academic rigor is not the same as it is at UF. It's much harder for UF to assimilate students in the classroom coming in with low C averages and ACT scores below 20.

StrangeGator
01-18-2013, 09:50 AM
I know that we have some good DE/Buck prospects in this class, but only one that's likely to stay outside. Seems like we're in a tight spot right now, having to give up on Daniel and trying to catch up with equally talented players we haven't been recruiting all year. I think there's a good chance that we are done at DE and Buck. We have five LBs, I'm sure one or more of them can get a look at the Buck position. One of Riles and Ivie can stay at DE, especially if we get another DT.

VandyGator13
01-18-2013, 10:29 AM
If that research was done with a sampling of USF students, I'm not surprised. That's an entirely different academic setting. They do a great job taking B and C students and turning them into scholars and then professionals, but the academic rigor is not the same as it is at UF. It's much harder for UF to assimilate students in the classroom coming in with low C averages and ACT scores below 20.

I understand your commitment to UF, but USF is every bit, if not more rigorous. My sister went to UF for undergrad and graduate school and I went to USF for undergrad, but my undergrad program was double the rigor and intensity of my sister's graduate program. Don't sell USF short in their academics...especially their Colleges of Health.

tomis_gator
01-18-2013, 10:50 AM
I understand your commitment to UF, but USF is every bit, if not more rigorous. My sister went to UF for undergrad and graduate school and I went to USF for undergrad, but my undergrad program was double the rigor and intensity of my sister's graduate program. Don't sell USF short in their academics...especially their Colleges of Health.

Or maybe your sister is twice as smart as you are.

ufballer86
01-18-2013, 11:42 AM
Or maybe your sister is twice as smart as you are.

Zing!

VandyGator13
01-18-2013, 12:02 PM
Or maybe your sister is twice as smart as you are.

Or my SAT, GRE, and GPA scores say otherwise. Thanks for trying to turn this into a sibling rivalry :) haha

ArtDeco
01-18-2013, 12:12 PM
Or maybe your sister is twice as smart as you are.

You do realize his name is "VANDYgator", right? Not likely, unless his sister is Marie Curie.

DoctorGator
01-18-2013, 04:53 PM
I understand your commitment to UF, but USF is every bit, if not more rigorous. My sister went to UF for undergrad and graduate school and I went to USF for undergrad, but my undergrad program was double the rigor and intensity of my sister's graduate program. Don't sell USF short in their academics...especially their Colleges of Health.

I read the board every day, but I've just about quit posting. However, I can't let this pass. Let's make a deal. You don't try to compare USF to UF academically and I won't try to compare UF and MIT academically.

I realize that there are always going to be individual programs at any school that are better than the same program at an overall superior school. For instance, I know a guy that was in academic trouble in Civil Engineering at UF and ended up with a Civil Engineering degree from Vanderbilt. Said there was no comparison. UF was much tougher. Same degree program, not "undergrad" and "graduate." Vandy is the deservedly higher ranked school, but UF Engineering is a bear.

Finally, I've passed K-12, AA, BS, MS and PhD. The two easiest courses of study for me were K-12 and MS. The Masters' Degree is often, even usually, easier than the BS in the same area of study. The difficulty and pressure are ramped back up for a PhD.

UFFL
01-18-2013, 05:11 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
In Florida it's lavish over here @GodsOmegaBliss I'm digging this gator fans follow me .

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 05:19 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
In Florida it's lavish over here @GodsOmegaBliss I'm digging this gator fans follow me .

Is he in town?

UFFL
01-18-2013, 05:19 PM
Yes on OV I believe

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 05:21 PM
Excellent, I hope he loves his stay/visit there.

UFFL
01-18-2013, 05:26 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
I like these people over here good people Florida good impression

sbcg8r
01-18-2013, 05:46 PM
Either he's really interested, or just building suspense for his commitment to Ole Miss.

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 05:50 PM
Robert Nkemdiche ‏@Aceboogie_001
I like these people over here good people Florida good impression

Repped. Please keep us informed..... I don't tweet.

GatorAvatar
01-18-2013, 05:53 PM
Either he's really interested, or just building suspense for his commitment to Ole Miss.

LOL. He will be a Gator when its all said and done.

UFFL
01-18-2013, 05:55 PM
He'll probably tweet a bit less now, because he'll be spending more time having fun with the coaches/recruits.

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 05:55 PM
LOL. He will be a Gator when its all said and done.

How do you know that? Do you have some info to impart?

slayerxing
01-18-2013, 05:59 PM
I read the board every day, but I've just about quit posting. However, I can't let this pass. Let's make a deal. You don't try to compare USF to UF academically and I won't try to compare UF and MIT academically.

I realize that there are always going to be individual programs at any school that are better than the same program at an overall superior school. For instance, I know a guy that was in academic trouble in Civil Engineering at UF and ended up with a Civil Engineering degree from Vanderbilt. Said there was no comparison. UF was much tougher. Same degree program, not "undergrad" and "graduate." Vandy is the deservedly higher ranked school, but UF Engineering is a bear.

Finally, I've passed K-12, AA, BS, MS and PhD. The two easiest courses of study for me were K-12 and MS. The Masters' Degree is often, even usually, easier than the BS in the same area of study. The difficulty and pressure are ramped back up for a PhD.

I work in admissions professionally. I've seen the quality of students produced at USF for health professional programs. UF students are stronger, on the average, and it's not that close. Science courses, at UF, again on average, are much more rigorous than USF.

revthejedi
01-18-2013, 06:02 PM
Did RN's father make the visit? Glad he's enjoying the trip, hopefully he isn't trolling us.

DuPontGator
01-18-2013, 06:05 PM
Getting trolled. Anyways who wouldn't have fun? I know I would have a blast with some nole girls.

ufballer86
01-18-2013, 06:06 PM
I read the board every day, but I've just about quit posting. However, I can't let this pass. Let's make a deal. You don't try to compare USF to UF academically and I won't try to compare UF and MIT academically.

I realize that there are always going to be individual programs at any school that are better than the same program at an overall superior school. For instance, I know a guy that was in academic trouble in Civil Engineering at UF and ended up with a Civil Engineering degree from Vanderbilt. Said there was no comparison. UF was much tougher. Same degree program, not "undergrad" and "graduate." Vandy is the deservedly higher ranked school, but UF Engineering is a bear.

Finally, I've passed K-12, AA, BS, MS and PhD. The two easiest courses of study for me were K-12 and MS. The Masters' Degree is often, even usually, easier than the BS in the same area of study. The difficulty and pressure are ramped back up for a PhD.

this makes me feel good as a civil eng grad from uf who had 7 semesters worth of probationary trouble :)

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 06:06 PM
Did RN's father make the visit? Glad he's enjoying the trip, hopefully he isn't trolling us.

That's a good question, because he said he would be visiting with his dad.

hgators
01-18-2013, 06:11 PM
I read his Dad, Sunday, would be visiting with him.

johnl
01-18-2013, 06:12 PM
LOL. He will be a Gator when its all said and done.

Besides GatorAvatar, am I the only one who thinks we have more than a "shot in the dark" with Robert? I mean, isn't it silly to say "not a chance" when you're most likely knowing there's an honest shot but don't want to jinx it or some stupid "karma" related sh!t like that.. or magic.

GatorAvatar
01-18-2013, 06:49 PM
How do you know that? Do you have some info to impart?

Gut feeling, I know it doesn't count for much.

LAGatorDoc
01-18-2013, 06:52 PM
Did RN's father make the visit? Glad he's enjoying the trip, hopefully he isn't trolling us.

Yes he's with him, and he probably likes it, even if he is not going to commit to us

DuPontGator
01-18-2013, 07:16 PM
Gut feeling, I know it doesn't count for much.

How big is that gut?

gator1986
01-18-2013, 08:59 PM
How big is that gut?

Pretty big it's a dickie do

gtj31
01-18-2013, 09:08 PM
Finally, I've passed K-12, AA, BS, MS and PhD. The two easiest courses of study for me were K-12 and MS. The Masters' Degree is often, even usually, easier than the BS in the same area of study. The difficulty and pressure are ramped back up for a PhD.

I have a mechanical engineering undergrad degree from UF with a master's in petroleum engineering from Texas and the master's was double the workload. My GPA was higher in grad but the quantity of work was not even close to comparable.

I don't quite know why the admissions board wouldn't make the exception if the kid is well behaved. What is the risk for one or two? The school's reputation is not at stake if they are expected to be good humans even if the kid fails out. The cost of the kid can't be that much higher than the other athletes and you will have 85 schollies regardless. What can the differential cost of one guy be? Couple grand a semester?

DuPontGator
01-18-2013, 09:31 PM
Pretty big it's a dickie do

Interesting...

Gatorrick22
01-18-2013, 09:33 PM
How big is that gut?

:laugh::laugh:


Let's hope it's his all day tailgating gut..

DuPontGator
01-18-2013, 09:37 PM
:laugh::laugh:

Let's hope it's his all day tailgating gut..

Lol

GatorAvatar
01-19-2013, 12:06 AM
How big is that gut?

Fat Charlie big.

StrangeGator
01-19-2013, 12:19 AM
So Robert is enjoying himself. Here's a good question. Is he a DE or a DT? He's a mighty big boy. Looks like a three-technique from the get go. If we get him, and I know that's a long shot, aren't we still looking for a DE or Buck?

raidsgt
01-19-2013, 10:13 AM
Any updates from you twittering folks??

GataBaitx3
01-19-2013, 10:17 AM
Any updates from you twittering folks??

Wants Gator Nation to follow him.

raidsgt
01-19-2013, 10:20 AM
Wants Gator Nation to follow him.

Us or does he want ol siss , to give him even more attention

GataBaitx3
01-19-2013, 10:26 AM
Us or does he want ol siss , to give him even more attention

Your guess is as good as mine.

Lawdog88
01-19-2013, 11:31 AM
Wants Gator Nation to follow him.


On a leash ?

I don't follow. :huh:

LimeyGator
01-19-2013, 12:01 PM
Wants Gator Nation to follow him.

I find it quite telling that he has to keep asking for Gator Nation's support. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that people don't genuinely think he's interested in being a Gator?

GatorAvatar
01-19-2013, 12:03 PM
I find it quite telling that he has to keep asking for Gator Nation's support. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that people don't genuinely think he's interested in being a Gator?

It's mind boggling...why he wants us to follow him.

g8rgrad07
01-19-2013, 12:06 PM
Yea it's making me wonder if the fans are as much part of the recruiting staff as the coaches these days with twitter. It seems like every big time recruit asks the fan base to follow them and it makes me curious whether that plays a part in their decision.

NoahBeanBizzel
01-19-2013, 12:21 PM
It's mind boggling...why he wants us to follow him.

I think it's kind of funny. The top recruit in the country is on the Florida campus this weekend, and it really seems like it's just not that big of a deal.

Lawdog88
01-19-2013, 01:25 PM
I find it quite telling that he has to keep asking for Gator Nation's support. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that people don't genuinely think he's interested in being a Gator?


But if we showed we really, really wanted him, it would make the rejection that much more sweet ?

For goodness sakes, young man . . . just come on down and play. It will be good for you and us.

But don't play us.

StrangeGator
01-19-2013, 01:47 PM
I think it's kind of funny. The top recruit in the country is on the Florida campus this weekend, and it really seems like it's just not that big of a deal.

It's not a big deal because no matter how much he likes it, his parents will probably insist that he joins his brother at Ole Miss.

Or maybe they all like it so much, that his brother decides to transfer to UF. IMHO, it's a much more hospitable environment for a native African, not the least of which is one of the best graduate African Studies programs in the US. If only the school had a larger African population.

Gatorrick22
01-19-2013, 01:55 PM
It's not a big deal because no matter how much he likes it, his parents will probably insist that he joins his brother at Ole Miss.

Or maybe they all like it so much, that his brother decides to transfer to UF. IMHO, it's a much more hospitable environment for a native African, not the least of which is one of the best graduate African Studies programs in the US. If only the school had a larger African population.

Do you really think that matters to him? Besides that I think UF has more minorities than "good Ole boy" Miss does.

LimeyGator
01-19-2013, 01:55 PM
He's stated already he wants to go to College for 3 years. It's a route to the NFL for him, no more, no less.

Nobody can convince me Ole Miss has a shot at an SEC championship. Heck, they'll do well to have a winning SEC record. But if that's what he wants, so be it. Playing in this defense he could have been stellar, but I get the feeling he's not interested in winning championships or looking at the bigger picture.

Moving on!

Gatorrick22
01-19-2013, 02:02 PM
He's stated already he wants to go to College for 3 years. It's a route to the NFL for him, no more, no less.

Nobody can convince me Ole Miss has a shot at an SEC championship. Heck, they'll do well to have a winning SEC record. But if that's what he wants, so be it. Playing in this defense he could have been stellar, but I get the feeling he's not interested in winning championships or looking at the bigger picture.

Moving on!

Uh... he's still visiting. Maybe we should wait and see what he says/does later in the coming week? :wink:

LimeyGator
01-19-2013, 02:12 PM
Uh... he's still visiting. Maybe we should wait and see what he says/does later in the coming week? :wink:

Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled if he came here - absolutely delighted.

But I just haven't seen ANYTHING in the entire process that tells me he's doing any more than living up his visits, as he's entitled to do.

I think there's a greater chance of Tim Tebow being allowed to give John Elway a public wedgie than RnK coming to Gainesville. Sorry :)

StrangeGator
01-19-2013, 02:17 PM
Do you really think that matters to him? Besides that I think UF has more minorities than "good Ole boy" Miss does.

Not minorities. Native Africans. That's a very different social and cultural dynamic. They like to hang out with other Africans, or at least be able to find African food and listen to African music.

I doubt either school has many native Africans, least of all UF, who only allows 8% of admissions to come from outside of Florida. 20% of my daughter's freshman class is from outside of the US. Her best friend is from Zimbabwe and her roommate is from Indonesia.

Gatorrick22
01-19-2013, 02:23 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled if he came here - absolutely delighted.

But I just haven't seen ANYTHING in the entire process that tells me he's doing any more than living up his visits, as he's entitled to do.

I think there's a greater chance of Tim Tebow being allowed to give John Elway a public wedgie than RnK coming to Gainesville. Sorry :)

:laugh::laugh:

LimeyGator
01-19-2013, 02:26 PM
Who knows? I think he tweeted he was going to the basketball. Can't hurt our chances I suppose so far...

Gatorrick22
01-19-2013, 02:28 PM
Not minorities. Native Africans. That's a very different social and cultural dynamic. They like to hang out with other Africans, or at least be able to find African food and listen to African music.

I doubt either school has many native Africans, least of all UF, who only allows 8% of admissions to come from outside of Florida. 20% of my daughter's freshman class is from outside of the US. Her best friend is from Zimbabwe and her roommate is from Indonesia.

That's interesting. I also didn't know that UF only allowed for only 8% of their students to come from other states, does that 8% total include out of country students as well as out of state students.

LimeyGator
01-19-2013, 02:32 PM
That's interesting. I also didn't know that UF only allowed for only 8% of their students to come from other states, does that 8% total include out of country students as well as out of state students.

I feel privileged now. The top 8% of the top 8%, was I? ;)

Gatorrick22
01-19-2013, 02:39 PM
I feel privileged now. The top 8% of the top 8%, was I? ;)

You are indeed my friend.

gatorsallday
01-19-2013, 05:16 PM
This same thing happened with Rolin, so y can't it happen again. Do I think he's coming here, not really. Do I think he's interested, he wouldn't have visited if he wasn't.

Juggernautz
01-19-2013, 07:50 PM
He's stated already he wants to go to College for 3 years. It's a route to the NFL for him, no more, no less.

Nobody can convince me Ole Miss has a shot at an SEC championship. Heck, they'll do well to have a winning SEC record. But if that's what he wants, so be it. Playing in this defense he could have been stellar, but I get the feeling he's not interested in winning championships or looking at the bigger picture.

Moving on!

They won't even win the West much less the SEC!

StrangeGator
01-19-2013, 09:23 PM
That's interesting. I also didn't know that UF only allowed for only 8% of their students to come from other states, does that 8% total include out of country students as well as out of state students.

I think the legislature mandated 92% of the spots for entering freshman to be set aside for Floridians. I don't think there was any boundaries set on the remaining eight percent. Not that it matters. That is a new low for geographic diversity, part of the reason my kids didn't consider UF. They didn't even consider U of I which is better than UF,excluding sport,. even though they redline at 80% for Illinois residents. (80% of Illinois residents are from metro Chicago, that's why local kids call it 13th grade.) What's the point of going off to college if everyone comes from the same place. If you're not from that place, you're overwhelming outnumbered by locals. If you come from Nigeria, you might as well be from another planet. Fortunately, that goes double for Oxford, MS.

What is with the xenophobia at UF? When I was there, people were from everywhere. I would never have understood anything about the world without my friends from places like Washington DC, Chicago, New York, Jamaica, Norway, Dominca, France or even other planets, like Texas. My guess is that the 8% from out of state are mostly athletes or very well connected legacies.

So I know that was a digression, but it's got to be a hard sell to recruit athletes from out of the region, especially from other countries, who speak a second language, other than Spanish. We almost lost Easley. The cracker factor was a very hard transition for him. We've had more attrition from the upper east coast than anywhere else.

Don't get me started about your governor. Yes, I know our last governor is in jail, but at least he committed his crimes while in office. Yours defrauded the government of billions of dollars years before you elected him, then he started screwing up what you had left, most of all the great flagship university. Say what you want, but the Graham and Childs years were good for UF.

Sorry. I guess you can lock this thread. I don't even remember what it was about. I'm heading out for more beer anyway.

Oh yea. Robert the awesome multi-cultural defensive lineman whose mother is a legislator in Nigeria and whose brother plays for Ole Miss. I hope he's reading this. Either he knows someone understands him, or he thinks Gator fans need to find better ways to spend their time. Like I just said, I'm heading out for more beer. Good luck Robert. I'm going to ask my brother how to say that in your native language.

Is this thread locked yet? That would be a milestone. I just hit 25,000 posts. I've been a moderator. I've been banned, but I've never had a thread locked.

If you don't lock it, at least let it get back on track.

If you want to find me later on, I'll probably be in the pub.

gatorbait96
01-19-2013, 10:05 PM
His brother recruiting him to the Rebs on twitter...Lol.

https://twitter.com/denzelnkemdiche/status/292817655214264321

GatorNation850
01-19-2013, 10:13 PM
His brother recruiting him to the Rebs on twitter...Lol.

https://twitter.com/denzelnkemdiche/status/292817655214264321

I seen that too...I'm guessing he was referring to us with the FUFU comment?

UFFL
01-19-2013, 10:14 PM
I seen that too...I'm guessing he was referring to us with the FUFU comment?

I don't believe so they just talk really silly. Like baby talk. I'm not kidding

raidsgt
01-19-2013, 10:17 PM
FUFU is one I haven't heard before.. usually people go un-original with "gaytors"

If he's UF bound he should respond w/ "but I want RINGS"

GatorNation850
01-19-2013, 10:17 PM
I don't believe so they just talk really silly. Like baby talk. I'm not kidding

Yeah after re-reading it I think your right they must be super close

gator1986
01-19-2013, 10:18 PM
FUFU is one I haven't heard before.. usually people go un-original with "gaytors"

If he's UF bound he should respond w/ "but I want RINGS"

I have heard "gaytards" as well...

GatorNation850
01-19-2013, 10:19 PM
I have heard "gaytards" as well...

And gayterds lol mostly from fsu and uga fans

gator1986
01-19-2013, 10:21 PM
And gayterds lol mostly from fsu and uga fans

Yea but they're the semenholes and well... Ones from Georgia, so that speaks for itself.. Lol

johnl
01-19-2013, 10:21 PM
Don't leave out we "Gayturds." Edit.. never mind. Close enough with the erds.

johnl
01-19-2013, 10:27 PM
Also don't forget "Swamp Fags." I think Semenhole is a bit more explicit though.

johnl
01-19-2013, 10:29 PM
Anyway Nkemdiche WOW is he something or what!?

gator1986
01-19-2013, 10:29 PM
Also don't forget "Swamp Fags." I think Semenhole is a bit more explicit though.

Depends on who you are if your a queer and someone says for a "Swamp Fags" then yes probably a little mode explicit.. If your a girl who's about to have a one night stand, then yes semenhole is a little more explicit...

UFFL
01-19-2013, 10:30 PM
This thread took a weird turn

raidsgt
01-19-2013, 10:31 PM
We should start a "rings for Robert" campaign. ... show him why ol piss is a bad idea

gator1986
01-19-2013, 10:40 PM
This thread took a weird turn

Lol

johnl
01-19-2013, 10:40 PM
Depends on who you are if your a queer and someone says for a "Swamp Fags" then yes probably a little mode explicit.. If your a girl who's about to have a one night stand, then yes semenhole is a little more explicit...

..and just think that if you're a semenhole, there's a good chance you'll have a gayterd! :crazy:

gator1986
01-19-2013, 10:40 PM
We should start a "rings for Robert" campaign. ... show him why ol piss is a bad idea

Ooooo nice one I like it

gatorr4life
01-19-2013, 10:42 PM
Would love to have him in this class, but hard to argue if he chooses ole miss. Being with a family member for your first year away from home is very helpful. That being said, man I want him in this class! Lol

UFreak
01-19-2013, 10:50 PM
Would love to have him in this class, but hard to argue if he chooses ole miss. Being with a family member for your first year away from home is very helpful. That being said, man I want him in this class! Lol

Yeah, but, I mean, how does it feel to basically have your brother choose your college for you? Would be nice to choose your own school. His brother didn't have the same options that Robert does. Would be nice to and your own college choice.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 10:59 PM
Yeah, but, I mean, how does it feel to basically have your brother choose your college for you? Would be nice to choose your own school. His brother didn't have the same options that Robert does. Would be nice to and your own college choice.

I think Robert likes Ole miss as well.

don23lucia
01-19-2013, 11:17 PM
He wants followers on twitter to boost his numbers it's just a ego thing, and I think he might be interested but at the same time why wouldn't he take free trip and catch a bball game regardless of his interest.

Would love for him to be a gator I just don't think it will happen.

toddsevans
01-19-2013, 11:25 PM
I hope he comes to Fla. The Gator Nation will be a much better showcase for his talent with a nationally televised game most every week. Quit screwing around and let's start begging"!!!!!!!

mikehev
01-19-2013, 11:26 PM
There is something magnetic about this year's class. When other players get around the likes of Nick Washington, Kelvin Taylor, etc. there is an excitement and I think they realize that something special is going on in Gainesville this year. Not every class is like this. It reminds me, in alot of ways, of the class with the Pouncey twins. That was a close group coming in, which normally translates into success on the field. Seeing this year's group sparked Robert's interest enough to come down. Let's hope he wants to be part of more than a visit.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

UFreak
01-19-2013, 11:36 PM
I think Robert likes Ole miss as well.

I'm sure he does. But let's face it, if his brother wasn't there, Ole Miss would not have a shot. He likes Ole Miss because his brother is there.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 11:42 PM
I'm sure he does. But let's face it, if his brother wasn't there, Ole Miss would not have a shot. He likes Ole Miss because his brother is there.

You could say the same thing about Treadwell. If Treadwell's best friend did not go to Ole Miss he would have not had them on them on his list. Recruiting always goes back to relationships.

UFreak
01-19-2013, 11:48 PM
You could say the same thing about Treadwell. If Treadwell's best friend did not go to Ole Miss he would have not had them on them on his list. Recruiting always goes back to relationships.

Agreed, but the relationships that are usually alluded to are the ones forged between the players and the coaches who are recruiting them. Ole Miss is getting a lucky break with these two relationships. But hey, luck counts too.

GATORAZ
01-19-2013, 11:52 PM
Agreed, but the relationships that are usually alluded to are the ones forged between the players and the coaches who are recruiting them. Ole Miss is getting a lucky break with these two relationships. But hey, luck counts too.

Relationships with everybody counts from player to coaches to family member to friends etc. Freeze also can recruit, people are going to be shocked at how good Ole Miss is in 2 or 3 years.

Speaking of relationships it looks like Geis (D walkers coach) has a nice relationship with Pruitt and that might help FSU get Kain Daub

UFFL
01-19-2013, 11:57 PM
Ole Miss will be good but I don't think they'll win the conference, nor their division while Treadwell and Robert N. are in school. Back in September I was optimistic about aTm beating Bama; I don't necessarily think Bama is unbeatable. I just don't think Ole Miss has enough all-around talent to beat LSU, Alabama, and aTm in one season.

GATORAZ
01-20-2013, 12:01 AM
Ole Miss will be good but I don't think they'll win the conference, nor their division while Treadwell and Robert N. are in school. Back in September I was optimistic about aTm beating Bama; I don't necessarily think Bama is unbeatable. I just don't think Ole Miss has enough all-around talent to beat LSU, Alabama, and aTm in one season.

Watch how they close this year and recruit next year. I am not saying they will win the east but they have a shot at beating one or two of those teams each year in a few years.

UFFL
01-20-2013, 12:03 AM
Watch how they close this year and recruit next year. I am not saying they will win the east but they have a shot at beating one or two of those teams each year in a few years.

I think they will beat one of the 3 next year (most likely LSU, because they're dropping a lot of kids). I know LSU has depth, but I think they're a 3-loss team next year

NoahBeanBizzel
01-20-2013, 06:03 AM
With the way Hugh Freeze is building that program, Ole Miss will be a team other schools in the SEC don't want to deal with. I don't see them becoming a national power, but they'll knock a 'Bama, LSU or A&M off periodically.

I watched them give Georgia fits for the first half of that game, and you could see that a lack of depth did them in during the second half. When Freeze builds that up across the line of scrimmage, watch out. That offense is creative and fun to watch.

austingator
01-20-2013, 06:42 AM
Agree with Ole Miss being much better next year. Would not be surprised at all if the make a significant move in the West next year. Heck, the are already passing MSU and coach Mullin so that did not take long.

gatorboy27
01-20-2013, 07:27 AM
Robert is a good kid. He honesty wants to look around at his opinions. His parents do have a huge influence on him and his mom wants him to go with his brother. But she also wants strong academics, even though Robert wants NFL.

I wouldn't at all count us out. He's definitely leaning ole miss but he's not convinced

He's one if my students and I'm also a coach at Grayson. I talk with him every day. He wears ole miss garb all the time, but also rocks orange and blue too. Never actually seen him in LSU apparel.

As far as the twitter follow me request, the kid is new to twitter. And he's in HS, he wants to have as many followers as possible.

My opinion, he ends up at old miss , but would be shocked at all if he landed in Gainesville.

UFreak
01-20-2013, 07:49 AM
Robert is a good kid. He honesty wants to look around at his opinions. His parents do have a huge influence on him and his mom wants him to go with his brother. But she also wants strong academics, even though Robert wants NFL.

I wouldn't at all count us out. He's definitely leaning ole miss but he's not convinced

He's one if my students and I'm also a coach at Grayson. I talk with him every day. He wears ole miss garb all the time, but also rocks orange and blue too. Never actually seen him in LSU apparel.

As far as the twitter follow me request, the kid is new to twitter. And he's in HS, he wants to have as many followers as possible.

My opinion, he ends up at old miss , but would be shocked at all if he landed in Gainesville.

Thank you for the post!!! Keep us up to date and let him know how much UFreak wants him at UF.
Someone should tell him that Ole Miss will not win the SEC or have a chance at it, much less an NC. UF on the other hand ....

mikehev
01-20-2013, 07:54 AM
Robert is a good kid. He honesty wants to look around at his opinions. His parents do have a huge influence on him and his mom wants him to go with his brother. But she also wants strong academics, even though Robert wants NFL.

I wouldn't at all count us out. He's definitely leaning ole miss but he's not convinced

He's one if my students and I'm also a coach at Grayson. I talk with him every day. He wears ole miss garb all the time, but also rocks orange and blue too. Never actually seen him in LSU apparel.

As far as the twitter follow me request, the kid is new to twitter. And he's in HS, he wants to have as many followers as possible.

My opinion, he ends up at old miss , but would be shocked at all if he landed in Gainesville.

This confirms one of the things I was thinking. He sounds like a high character guy from this post, and WM is bringing in lots of high character kids in the class: Nick Washington, Kelvin Taylor, Ahmad Fulwood, the list goes on and on. These are the types of kids that get so close off of the field, they end up stringing together big wins and lots of success on the field.

It would not shock me at all for him to be a part of this group.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

LimeyGator
01-20-2013, 09:09 AM
Robert is a good kid. He honesty wants to look around at his opinions. His parents do have a huge influence on him and his mom wants him to go with his brother. But she also wants strong academics, even though Robert wants NFL.

I wouldn't at all count us out. He's definitely leaning ole miss but he's not convinced

He's one if my students and I'm also a coach at Grayson. I talk with him every day. He wears ole miss garb all the time, but also rocks orange and blue too. Never actually seen him in LSU apparel.

As far as the twitter follow me request, the kid is new to twitter. And he's in HS, he wants to have as many followers as possible.

My opinion, he ends up at old miss , but would be shocked at all if he landed in Gainesville.

Do you mean "wouldn't be" shocked? If your quote is accurate then you already seem to make it sound like he's barely worth pursuing. :)

Out of interest - if you don't mind me asking - what kind of influence (maybe percentage?) do you coaches have on these kids' destinations? ...Honestly speaking, that is. If you don't feel like you can say without compromising your position/professionalism, I would completely understand.

I ask because of all the Demarcus Robinson-to-Clemson-via-his-HS-coach talk that we had on here a few weeks ago, which you may or may not have been reading.

I'm still hugely skeptical about RnK but if you say he's genuinely considering Florida, then I hope we leave no stone unturned in trying to persuade him. I got the impression originally that Ole Miss was a sure thing which is why I wouldn't get excited about it all.

Is it purely his Mother that is the defining factor in Ole Miss? If it is, I am sure our coaching staff are aware and will be in her ear as much as with his. If he's focussed on the NFL, I refuse to believe for even 1 second that the Rebels are a better exposure for him than 3 years in Gainesville where he could be the elite name on an elite defense. With secondary we are piling up, QBs aren't just going to be able to launch the ball away without care and that would give time for an elite pass rushing DE to look reeeeeaaally good...

gatorboy27
01-20-2013, 09:18 AM
Do you mean "wouldn't be" shocked? If your quote is accurate then you already seem to make it sound like he's barely worth pursuing. :)

Out of interest - if you don't mind me asking - what kind of influence (maybe percentage?) do you coaches have on these kids' destinations? ...Honestly speaking, that is. If you don't feel like you can say without compromising your position/professionalism, I would completely understand.

I ask because of all the Demarcus Robinson-to-Clemson-via-his-HS-coach talk that we had on here a few weeks ago, which you may or may not have been reading.

I'm still hugely skeptical about RnK but if you say he's genuinely considering Florida, then I hope we leave no stone unturned in trying to persuade him. I got the impression originally that Ole Miss was a sure thing which is why I wouldn't get excited about it all.

Is it purely his Mother that is the defining factor in Ole Miss? If it is, I am sure our coaching staff are aware and will be in her ear as much as with his. If he's focussed on the NFL, I refuse to believe for even 1 second that the Rebels are a better exposure for him than 3 years in Gainesville where he could be the elite name on an elite defense. With secondary we are piling up, QBs aren't just going to be able to launch the ball away without care and that would give time for an elite pass rushing DE to look reeeeeaaally good...

I meant "wouldn't"....

Coaches have a big influence when thy take that route IF the kids doesn't have a big family influence. At our school, Coach doesn't push kids one way or another. He's a BIG Bama guy, but e truly wants the kids to go where's best and doesn't try to I Luce one way or another. At some schools with coaches, it is completely different. If the player has no other male influence, I feel like the coach takes advantage of that situation sometimes.

Robert's mother isn't only factor. I think his father is visiting UF with him this weekend....his parents really care about academics. Like a lot I parents, I'm sure they'd like to see their Sons together.

I'm sure the coaches aren't putti all the time and resources into this if there isn't a slight crack in the door. Ole Miss is leader but UF has a lot to offer for both Robert and his parents.

LimeyGator
01-20-2013, 09:51 AM
I meant "wouldn't"....

Coaches have a big influence when thy take that route IF the kids doesn't have a big family influence. At our school, Coach doesn't push kids one way or another. He's a BIG Bama guy, but e truly wants the kids to go where's best and doesn't try to I Luce one way or another. At some schools with coaches, it is completely different. If the player has no other male influence, I feel like the coach takes advantage of that situation sometimes.

Robert's mother isn't only factor. I think his father is visiting UF with him this weekend....his parents really care about academics. Like a lot I parents, I'm sure they'd like to see their Sons together.

I'm sure the coaches aren't putti all the time and resources into this if there isn't a slight crack in the door. Ole Miss is leader but UF has a lot to offer for both Robert and his parents.

Cheers for your post - appreciate it!

Gatorphenom
01-20-2013, 12:15 PM
Barring something drastic on his Ole Miss visit next week. He will be a rebel, the staff and recruits all know this. However, it's still nice to be second with the #1 recruit in the country.

DieAGator
01-20-2013, 12:27 PM
Good information GB27. Sometimes it doesn't come down to the school that fits the best, look at Demarcus Walker(chuckle). In the end family could ask Robert to pick the school he wants to play for and that could be UF. Were Ole Miss in the weeds with a marginal class I think we would have a better shot but it looks like they have more of a future to sell as well.

LimeyGator
01-20-2013, 12:40 PM
Barring something drastic on his Ole Miss visit next week. He will be a rebel, the staff and recruits all know this. However, it's still nice to be second with the #1 recruit in the country.

Maybe someone will call him Robert Bum Itchy or something by accident, he'll be so offended he falls straight back into our arms...

UFreak
01-20-2013, 12:53 PM
Keep us in the loop GB27

nastyreptile
01-20-2013, 12:54 PM
Barring something drastic on his Ole Miss visit next week. He will be a rebel, the staff and recruits all know this. However, it's still nice to be second with the #1 recruit in the country.


No it's not, never settle for second.

We may be #1 in his favorite schools but his brother is #1 in his heart and that will be the difference but I hope not.

RattlerGator
01-20-2013, 01:11 PM
We may be #1 in his favorite schools but his brother is #1 in his heart and that will be the difference but I hope not. If so, cool. But if he's slightly open to Orange and Blue Heaven, we should fight like hell until the very end.

jsc28
01-20-2013, 01:24 PM
If so, cool. But if he's slightly open to Orange and Blue Heaven, we should fight like hell until the very end.

We just need them to get in a small fight right before signing day, then he can make the leap.

Crazier things have happened. Maybe he can give his mom a note right before he makes the announcement so she can't change his mind, Spiller style.

Tolbert1906
01-20-2013, 01:30 PM
Freeze also can recruit, people are going to be shocked at how good Ole Miss is in 2 or 3 years.
If Freeze has success at Ole Miss, he'll move on to a better job. Ole Miss is not a destination program. They might be good for a year or two, but then their coach will get snatched up by a big time program.

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JefffromJax
01-20-2013, 01:32 PM
Relationships with everybody counts from player to coaches to family member to friends etc. Freeze also can recruit, people are going to be shocked at how good Ole Miss is in 2 or 3 years.



IMO, Ole Miss is NOT a destination school. If Freeze has success, how long will he stay there ?

Typical pattern in coaching (see Urban Myer & many others) is to build program up & then move on until you get to a destination school (assuming you advance that far).

Several articles give their opinions of 'best' college coaching jobs; Ole Miss is not listed in any I have seen.

Sports Illistrated - http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1106/most.desirable.cfb.coaching.jobs/content.1.html

ESPN -
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8733842/from-nfl-college-ranking-10-best-head-coaching-jobs-football-college-football

GATORAZ
01-20-2013, 01:37 PM
Freeze was born in Oxford not sure he ever leaves. I also think Robert likes Ole Miss a lot more than people seem to think.

gator7_5
01-20-2013, 01:41 PM
I don't think we have much of a shot at all. Like raz is saying, the kid seems to REALLY like Ole Miss. IMO, UF is not #1 in his heart or head.

your_perfect_enemy
01-20-2013, 02:19 PM
From Zach A about his visit:

Good News: He had a great time in Gainesville as you would expect. It worked out that UF had three commits from his state (Antonio Riles, Marqui Hawkins, Octavius Jackson) visiting the same weekend as him. He felt comfortable around them, as he did with the other UF commits in town. A couple of them told me Nkemdiche said the Gators have moved ahead of LSU and it's now between Ole Miss and Florida.

Bad News: He flat out told people Ole Miss is where he wants to go. Next weekend is his official to Oxford, and Nkemdiche said he took the UF trip so he could have something to compare his Ole Miss visit to. The family influence of his interest in the school has been well documented, but Nkemdiche gave the impression that he wants to go there regardless of his brother and the preference of their parents.


http://forum.gatorsports.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=25319&sid=8418c8d597380b3c4cea2954ce10cfff

UFreak
01-20-2013, 02:22 PM
Ole Miss does not have the facilities to compete year in and year out. Unless they do a serious facilities upgrade, Ole Miss will not be able to challenge for an SEC title on a regular basis. Freeze can be the greatest recruiter in the biz, but you can only do so much with a program like Ole Miss. If he is serious about being at Ole Miss for the long haul and trying to win real titles, he needs to recruit in a completely different way. He needs to recruit rich alumni and ask them to expand the stadium and the other facilities. Until that happens, they won't have a chance with the big boys consistently.
Hopefully, Robert understands that and it is a factor on his decision making. That and academics.

gymgator
01-20-2013, 02:41 PM
Wish he would have come to the LSU or SC game, so he could have seen the game day atmosphere difference. Oh well, here is too hoping for miracles.

Gatorrick22
01-20-2013, 05:47 PM
At least he's not going to play for LSU, 'bama nor Clemson.