2013 DE Robert Nkemdiche of Loganville GA. to Ole Miss

[rsanner]

why would you not want him at clemson over ole miss?

[Tebowism0823]

Freeze was born in Oxford not sure he ever leaves. I also think Robert likes Ole Miss a lot more than people seem to think.

What? If Freeze continues the way he is he'll leave.

[Gatorrick22]

why would you not want him at clemson over ole miss?

Because they irritate me more than Ole Miss does. Their whole football program is a sham that we all know is based on pay for play.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Forget Nkemdiche. He was never going to be a part of this class. Let the teams out west deal with that on a yearly basis.

[gatorr4life]

I know I shouldn't say this but.... I think he should join his brother. Put yourself in his shoes. Imagine being able to play with your brother (or sister) on a big time stage. (SEC venues)

Good luck, Robert Nkemdiche. (Except against us of course)

[bleedorangeblue]

Nkemdiche quote on ESPN:
“Really all schools are even for me right now,” Nkediche said after visiting Florida this weekend. “No school has been kicked down or anything, but I just have to see the other schools and compare them. Florida, Ole Miss and LSU are all battling for that top spot.”

[Gatorrick22]

Nkemdiche quote on ESPN:

Code for: I had a great time and took all the freebies I could get, but I'm going to Ole Miss..

But I do hope I'm miss reading him.

[ETGator1]

No chance - didn't have one before the visit and don't have one after. No need for the suspense, just go do your thing.

[raidsgt]

Code for: I had a great time and took all the freebies I could get, but I'm going to Ole Miss..

But I do hope I'm miss reading him.

I know players are limited on OV's but are the schools???

Now that would be a story line "UF refuses OV from #1 recruit to save the visit for a 3* that won't waste their time"

[GATORAZ]

I know players are limited on OV's but are the schools???

Now that would be a story line "UF refuses OV from #1 recruit to save the visit for a 3* that won't waste their time"

There is a limit but we wont reach it (I forgot what it is). If a 5 star recruit want to visit you let him.

[UFFL]

I think it's 35 per year but that number seems low

[Gatorrick22]

I know players are limited on OV's but are the schools???

Now that would be a story line "UF refuses OV from #1 recruit to save the visit for a 3* that won't waste their time"



I used to think there was a limit, now I'm not sure. But it seems that there may not be a limit according to this site.



How many official visits can a coach offer?


The number of official visits a college or team can offer depends on their budget each year. Division I schools usually can afford the most official visits, followed by Division II schools. NAIA and Division III colleges usually do not offer paid official visits, even though they are allowed to offer them.

http://www.ncsasports.org/blog/2012/10/11/official-visits-3/


I thought it was 55, but I'm not sure now.

[Gatorrick22]

Here's the number


13.6.2.6 Number of Official Visits—Institutional Limitation. The total number of official visits a member
institution may provide prospective student-athletes in the following sports on an annual basis (August 1
through July 31) shall be limited to: (Revised: 11/12/97)
(a) Football—56. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91, 1/11/94 effective 8/1/94)
(b) Basketball—12. (Revised: 1/11/89, 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91, 1/11/94 effective 8/1/94)
(c) Baseball—25. (Adopted: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/99)
13.6.2.6.1 Exception—National Service Academies—Football, Basketball and Baseball. The
national service academies may provide 70 official visits in football, 56 of which may be provided prior to
the initial National Letter of Intent signing date, 15 official visits in basketball, 12 of which may be provided
prior to the initial National Letter of Intent signing date and 31 official visits in baseball, 25 of which may
be provided prior to the National Letter of Intent signing date. (Adopted: 1/10/95, Revised: 1/14/97 effective
8/1/97, 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02)




13.6.2.6.2 Unused Visits—Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, an institution may retain a maximum of
six unused visits from the previous academic year. Such visits may be used only during the following academic
year. (Adopted: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, Revised: 11/1/01 effective 8/1/02, 12/15/06)
13.6.2.6.3 Exception—Institution That Does Not Subscribe to the National Letter of Intent. A
member institution that does not subscribe to the National Letter of Intent may provide 70 official visits in
football, 56 of which may be provided prior to the initial National Letter of Intent signing date. (Adopted:
1/11/94 effective 8/1/94)
13.6.2.6.4 Written Record Required. The institution must maintain a written record of the paid visits
of its football, basketball and baseball prospective student-athletes. (Revised: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/99)
13.6.2.6.5 Multiple-Sport Prospective Student-Athletes. A prospective student-athlete in football
and one or more other sports (including basketball or baseball) shall be counted against the visit limitation
in football. A prospective student-athlete in basketball and one or more other sports (other than football)
shall be counted against the visit limitation in basketball. A prospective student-athlete in baseball and one
or more other sports (other than football or basketball) shall be counted against the visit limitation in baseball.
(Revised: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/99)
13.6.2.6.6 Waiver of Institutional Limitation—Extraordinary Personnel Losses. The Legislative
Council Subcommittee for Legislative Relief may grant a waiver of the limit on paid visits for an institution
that has suffered extraordinary personnel losses to its football, basketball or baseball team from an accident
or illness of a disastrous nature. (Revised: 1/12/99 effective 8/1/99, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)
13.6.2.6.7 Exception—Waiver of Institutional Limitation—Head Coaching Change. In baseball,
basketball and football, an institution may provide additional official visits (up to 25 percent of the
limitation for the particular sport) after a new head coach is hired, provided the previous head coach used

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D111.pdf

[gatorich]

Ole Miss does not have the facilities to compete year in and year out. Unless they do a serious facilities upgrade, Ole Miss will not be able to challenge for an SEC title on a regular basis. Freeze can be the greatest recruiter in the biz, but you can only do so much with a program like Ole Miss. If he is serious about being at Ole Miss for the long haul and trying to win real titles, he needs to recruit in a completely different way. He needs to recruit rich alumni and ask them to expand the stadium and the other facilities. Until that happens, they won't have a chance with the big boys consistently.
Hopefully, Robert understands that and it is a factor on his decision making. That and academics.

If it was only that simple for these kids but it's not. Family, life long fan and emotions play a HUGE role in making these decisions.

I know I shouldn't say this but.... I think he should join his brother. Put yourself in his shoes. Imagine being able to play with your brother (or sister) on a big time stage. (SEC venues)

Good luck, Robert Nkemdiche. (Except against us of course)

^^THIS^^

[UFreak]

^^this^^

^^not this^^

:)

[DuPontGator]

^^not this^^

:)

^^Confused ^^

[Juggernautz]

I think the legislature mandated 92% of the spots for entering freshman to be set aside for Floridians. I don't think there was any boundaries set on the remaining eight percent. Not that it matters. That is a new low for geographic diversity, part of the reason my kids didn't consider UF. They didn't even consider U of I which is better than UF,excluding sport,. even though they redline at 80% for Illinois residents. (80% of Illinois residents are from metro Chicago, that's why local kids call it 13th grade.) What's the point of going off to college if everyone comes from the same place. If you're not from that place, you're overwhelming outnumbered by locals. If you come from Nigeria, you might as well be from another planet. Fortunately, that goes double for Oxford, MS.

What is with the xenophobia at UF? When I was there, people were from everywhere. I would never have understood anything about the world without my friends from places like Washington DC, Chicago, New York, Jamaica, Norway, Dominca, France or even other planets, like Texas. My guess is that the 8% from out of state are mostly athletes or very well connected legacies.

So I know that was a digression, but it's got to be a hard sell to recruit athletes from out of the region, especially from other countries, who speak a second language, other than Spanish. We almost lost Easley. The cracker factor was a very hard transition for him. We've had more attrition from the upper east coast than anywhere else.

Don't get me started about your governor. Yes, I know our last governor is in jail, but at least he committed his crimes while in office. Yours defrauded the government of billions of dollars years before you elected him, then he started screwing up what you had left, most of all the great flagship university. Say what you want, but the Graham and Childs years were good for UF.

Sorry. I guess you can lock this thread. I don't even remember what it was about. I'm heading out for more beer anyway.

Oh yea. Robert the awesome multi-cultural defensive lineman whose mother is a legislator in Nigeria and whose brother plays for Ole Miss. I hope he's reading this. Either he knows someone understands him, or he thinks Gator fans need to find better ways to spend their time. Like I just said, I'm heading out for more beer. Good luck Robert. I'm going to ask my brother how to say that in your native language.

Is this thread locked yet? That would be a milestone. I just hit 25,000 posts. I've been a moderator. I've been banned, but I've never had a thread locked.

If you don't lock it, at least let it get back on track.

If you want to find me later on, I'll probably be in the pub.

Do you write more or drink more?

[SeaCay]

I think the legislature mandated 92% of the spots for entering freshman to be set aside for Floridians. I don't think there was any boundaries set on the remaining eight percent. Not that it matters. That is a new low for geographic diversity, part of the reason my kids didn't consider UF. They didn't even consider U of I which is better than UF,excluding sport,. even though they redline at 80% for Illinois residents. (80% of Illinois residents are from metro Chicago, that's why local kids call it 13th grade.) What's the point of going off to college if everyone comes from the same place. If you're not from that place, you're overwhelming outnumbered by locals. If you come from Nigeria, you might as well be from another planet. Fortunately, that goes double for Oxford, MS.

What is with the xenophobia at UF? When I was there, people were from everywhere. I would never have understood anything about the world without my friends from places like Washington DC, Chicago, New York, Jamaica, Norway, Dominca, France or even other planets, like Texas. My guess is that the 8% from out of state are mostly athletes or very well connected legacies.

So I know that was a digression, but it's got to be a hard sell to recruit athletes from out of the region, especially from other countries, who speak a second language, other than Spanish. We almost lost Easley. The cracker factor was a very hard transition for him. We've had more attrition from the upper east coast than anywhere else.

Don't get me started about your governor. Yes, I know our last governor is in jail, but at least he committed his crimes while in office. Yours defrauded the government of billions of dollars years before you elected him, then he started screwing up what you had left, most of all the great flagship university. Say what you want, but the Graham and Childs years were good for UF.

Sorry. I guess you can lock this thread. I don't even remember what it was about. I'm heading out for more beer anyway.

Oh yea. Robert the awesome multi-cultural defensive lineman whose mother is a legislator in Nigeria and whose brother plays for Ole Miss. I hope he's reading this. Either he knows someone understands him, or he thinks Gator fans need to find better ways to spend their time. Like I just said, I'm heading out for more beer. Good luck Robert. I'm going to ask my brother how to say that in your native language.

Is this thread locked yet? That would be a milestone. I just hit 25,000 posts. I've been a moderator. I've been banned, but I've never had a thread locked.

If you don't lock it, at least let it get back on track.

If you want to find me later on, I'll probably be in the pub.

Drink more, post less. Much less.

[gatorich]

^^not this^^

:)

:joecool:

[GatorAvatar]

Robert named his final three: Miss, LSU, Florida. Most people have him to Miss. but I'm still confident he will pick the Gators.

[johnl]

cracker factor.

[UFreak]

Cracker ass cracker

[gatorboy27]

Robert was ticking orange and blue today. He said he had a great time in Gainesville. He was really impressed with DJ and loved the plans they have for him if he becomes a Gator. Also said Muschamp is hilarious and just fun to be around, but that you can tell he's an intense worker.

He's still undecided. Its a really hard decision for him.

[Gatorphenom]

Robert was ticking orange and blue today. He said he had a great time in Gainesville. He was really impressed with DJ and loved the plans they have for him if he becomes a Gator. Also said Muschamp is hilarious and just fun to be around, but that you can tell he's an intense worker.

He's still undecided. Its a really hard decision for him.

Sorry, not biting. Staff and most everybody around feels he is Ole Miss's to lose. After DQ left, that was pretty much the end of his serious intentions. Everything else is just hype to his already known decision. As Charles Barkley says: I could be wrong....but I doubt it.

[gatorboy27]

Sorry, not biting. Staff and most everybody around feels he is Ole Miss's to lose. After DQ left, that was pretty much the end of his serious intentions. Everything else is just hype to his already known decision. As Charles Barkley says: I could be wrong....but I count it.

If you read my earlier post, I clearly say ole miss is leader. I'm just reporting what he told me today. He said he loved UF and the coaches. His biggest influence is parents with regards to playing with his brother. Robert did sag e feels like going to ole miss would take away the spotlight from his brother, for whatever that's worth.

[UFreak]

If you read my earlier post, I clearly say ole miss is leader. I'm just reporting what he told me today. He said he loved UF and the coaches. His biggest influence is parents with regards to playing with his brother. Robert did sag e feels like going to ole miss would take away the spotlight from his brother, for whatever that's worth.

Gatorboy27

Thank you so much for the personal info on Robert. I for one very much appreciate it. If ever you grow tired of putting out your personal conversations on this board because you feel they are under appreciated or require you to "explain or defend" yourself, please private message me with any convos you have with Robert you find noteworthy. Again, thank you for sharing your first-hand account.

[GatorAvatar]

Gatorboy27

Thank you so much for the personal info on Robert. I for one very much appreciate it. If ever you grow tired of putting out your personal conversations on this board because you feel they are under appreciated or require you to "explain or defend" yourself, please private message me with any convos you have with Robert you find noteworthy. Again, thank you for sharing your first-hand account.

Lol...hungry for information.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Lol...hungry for information.

Here's a piece of info for the people who just can't see the writing on the wall: Robert Nkemdiche.....isn't going to be the "next great" defensive end at Florida.

[Gatorrick22]

Robert named his final three: Miss, LSU, Florida. Most people have him to Miss. but I'm still confident he will pick the Gators.

:grin:

[UFreak]

Lol...hungry for information.

Hell yes! I'd be foolish not to want to hear from someone who sees Robert on the daily.

[fubar1]

If you read my earlier post, I clearly say ole miss is leader. I'm just reporting what he told me today. He said he loved UF and the coaches. His biggest influence is parents with regards to playing with his brother. Robert did sag e feels like going to ole miss would take away the spotlight from his brother, for whatever that's worth.

Actually, it's worth a good recruiting angle for UF's coaches, wouldn't you say?

[gatorsallday]

Although I for 1 really don't see him coming here, it's kinna getting aggravating people keep posting the same, he isn't coming her crap. Most of which have no clue what goes on during recruiting, but just keep repeating what they hear others say. If i recall, a lot of these people are the same people who drilled the VH3 isn't coming here crap because his dad was at USF.

[UFreak]

Most of which have no clue what goes on during recruiting, but just keep repeating what they hear others say. If i recall, a lot of these people are the same people who drilled the VH3 isn't coming here crap because his dad was at USF.

Word.

[Jstewie15]

I honestly believe Khemdiche is going to be Rebel or Gator. If he wants to win Sec or National Champion he'll be a Gator. GATORBAIT

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Although I for 1 really don't see him coming here, it's kinna getting aggravating people keep posting the same, he isn't coming her crap. Most of which have no clue what goes on during recruiting, but just keep repeating what they hear others say. If i recall, a lot of these people are the same people who drilled the VH3 isn't coming here crap because his dad was at USF.

You're probably right. Watch him put a Florida hat on his head on signing day and make me look like a complete fool.

[LimeyGator]

Although I for 1 really don't see him coming here, it's kinna getting aggravating people keep posting the same, he isn't coming her crap. Most of which have no clue what goes on during recruiting, but just keep repeating what they hear others say. If i recall, a lot of these people are the same people who drilled the VH3 isn't coming here crap because his dad was at USF.

To be fair this is a free recruiting message board. That is kind of what it's for... Posting opinions using 2 hand information as a source...

[Juggernautz]

This thread took a weird turn

Not surprising..

[gatorsallday]

I understand this is a free forum. So I'm not tripping. Just certain things I don't understand about few people on here. Like asking a question in a thread that answers it a few posts earlier.

[tmohah]

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

[generalgator]

noah,

I hope you are right and you look like a fool. :)

[sgtfury]

Laquon Treadwell and Robert Nkemdiche went to the Ole Miss bowl game today and thats where they will be going to college

Not to hard to read the tea leaves.

[c_gator24]

Is there any chance we get him? I know he visited but everyone says he is going to ole miss.

John 14:6

[GATORAZ]

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=253410&page=15

[UFreak]

http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?t=253410&page=15

Hahahaha!

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Man, you guys can be brutal.

To answer the OP's question, we probably won't land Nkemdiche. There is a 99.99999% chance that Nkemdiche will sign with Ole Miss. There is nothing that anybody on this board can say that's going to change the reality of what you've probably read everywhere else. RN will most likely end up a Rebel.

[red4512]

You should go to the boards at Gatorsports.com. They make these boards look like a love feast.

[DuPontGator]

Man, you guys can be brutal.

To answer the OP's question, we probably won't land Nkemdiche. There is a 99.99999% chance that Nkemdiche will sign with Ole Miss. There is nothing that anybody on this board can say that's going to change the reality of what you've probably read everywhere else. RN will most likely end up a Rebel.

They can be assholes. Nice post.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

You shoule go to the boards at Gatorports.com. They make these boards look like a love feast.

That's where I came from. I never knew this board existed 'til last fall. Gatorsports is pretty foul. My wife really got offended by some of the crap she saw on that board.

[1984Gator]

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

South Florida IS very diverse but Gainesville, no...

[gator1986]

South Florida IS very diverse but Gainesville, no...

I'm in south Florida and where I'm at and all surrounding areas is not diverse..

[DoctorGator]

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

I've been saying this for years. Guy hates Gainesville, hates Florida, hates the south, comes up with all kinds of ways to put down UF and build up any decent school that a kid might be considering, but continues to bless us with his presence on the recruiting site. Its really an amazing study in human behavior. Like we really care about the 164 reasons why his daughters are better off not at UF...........

[gator1986]

Guy: The bigwigs have been talking about a lack of diversity among the news crew... Ron!!...
Ron: Yes?
Guy: are you paying attention Ron?
Ron: no
Guy: Ron do you know what diversity is?
Ron: I believe diversity is a large wooden ship used for war back in the 1800's
Guy: Ron I'm sure the bigwigs are not worried about our lack of use of a large wooden ship.

[your_perfect_enemy]

You shoule go to the boards at Gatorports.com. They make these boards look like a love feast.

I venture back over there from time to time and am quickly reminded of why I left. Not only are they mostly a-holes but they're stupid.

[kbell42]

I like what they said on the ESPN recruitng show the other night. If he is such a lock to Ole Miss, why has he not pulled the trigger yet? There has to be something he really likes about Florida and LSU.

[UFreak]

I like what they said on the ESPN recruitng show the other night. If he is such a lock to Ole Miss, why has he not pulled the trigger yet? There has to be something he really likes about Florida and LSU.

Good point. I agree. Maybe he wants to be his own man and choose his own college and not have his brother, essentially pick it for him just because he's older.

[UFreak]

Truth is, no one knows. Regardless of what everyone says on here. We don't really know. All we know is that he hasn't yet committed to anyone.

[gatorboy27]

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

[UFreak]

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

Not me gatorboy27. I defended you. Look it up

[UFreak]

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

You can always private message me and avoid the arrogant prickery element. I am glad to hear your first-hand accounts

[Jaggator]

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

Everyone? I don't think so. A few posters may think they know it all but I'll defend the majority of the posters on GatorCountry and not allow a few jerks to spoil the party.

[Jaggator]

Not me gatorboy27. I defended you. Look it up

Kudos to you. I remember reading it in a recent thread.

[UFreak]

Everyone? I don't think so. A few posters may think they know it all but I'll defend the majority of the posters on GatorCountry and not allow a few jerks to spoil the party.

True, but I wish it was like the old days when personal attacks weren't allowed. This board has gotten away from that. Bummer

[gatorboy27]

Ok....you're right. Not everyone. A**es like those that are arrogant and abusive make it so many don't web want to get involved in a post.

If you read my post on the other thread, nothing has changed much.

He does get to see orange and blue and Valdosta state red and black each day though.....and he's not into UGA, so no harm from the red and black.

[gatorboy27]

Ok. Not everyone.....those other arrogant a**es can make it unpleasant for many to even be actively involved in a thread.

If you read my comments in other thread, nothing has really changed.

He sees orange ad blue an Valdosta State red and black every day in my classroom. And he's not into UGA so no harm with the red and black.

[raquetclub]

South Florida IS very diverse but Gainesville, no...

the population of transplants is diverse, county residents are not.

[StrangeGator]

Pile on StrangeGator all you want, but the state of Florida has mandated a lack of diversity at UF and all the other state schools. I know the state Florida is diverse, but nothing is more stifling to a university campus than limiting geographic diversity. This is what used to make UF a leader among state institutions. Half my friends at UF were from New York, DC, Chicago or other parts of the US.

I don't know what the town of Gainesville is like now, but there's no way the student body, with only eight percent of from outside of the state boundaries is as hospitable to international students as private universities, who have no geographic predispositions for geography, or state schools that don't redline enrollment at 92% for in-state students. What is that going to to do for the school's reputation out of state?

The only way you're sure to get into UF from out of state is if you're a student athlete. Even then, how many will want to go through what Easley went through coming from Staten Island? Look how many out of state signees we lost from that class.

We're either a world class university, or a place where every honor student in Florida has a place. We can't be both. And we can't expect to attract student athletes from other parts of the country, or the world, to easily adapt to a purely Florida culture, whatever that is.

[GatorBen]

Pile on StrangeGator all you want, but the state of Florida has mandated a lack of diversity at UF and all the other state schools. I know the state Florida is diverse, but nothing is more stifling to a university campus than limiting geographic diversity. This is what used to make UF a leader among state institutions. Half my friends at UF were from New York, DC, Chicago or other parts of the US.

I don't know what the town of Gainesville is like now, but there's no way the student body, with only eight percent of from outside of the state boundaries is as hospitable to international students as private universities, who have no geographic predispositions for geography, or state schools that don't redline enrollment at 92% for in-state students. What is that going to to do for the school's reputation out of state?

The only way you're sure to get into UF from out of state is if you're a student athlete. Even then, how many will want to go through what Easley went through coming from Staten Island? Look how many out of state signees we lost from that class.

We're either a world class university, or a place where every honor student in Florida has a place. We can't be both. And we can't expect to attract student athletes from other parts of the country, or the world, to easily adapt to a purely Florida culture, whatever that is.

Just so you know, when you look at what are thought of as the elite state schools, we're not alone. For example North Carolina law mandates that UNC have 82% or better in-state students. Michigan and Berkeley on the other hand do not, although it is worth noting that percent out of state is under 25% and has been falling at Berkeley.

[StrangeGator]

Just so you know, when you look at what are thought of as the elite state schools, we're not alone. For example North Carolina law mandates that UNC have 82% or better in-state students. Michigan and Berkeley on the other hand do not, although it is worth noting that percent out of state is under 25% and has been falling at Berkeley.

Big difference between 82% and 92%. Big difference between UF and Berkley and Michigan. I do know that Michigan and Berkley are both major destinations for thet tops graduates from my kids' high school. The most disturbing thing was that our guidance counselors had no info about UF. There was no outreach, no interaction with the counselors. Almost no UF admissions people were represented at the conferences our counselors attended. When we started asking our counselor about where our kids should submit applications, they asked my wife and I where we went to school. My wife is an Emory grad. He immediately said Emory. He had a great relationship with Emory and a lot of insight about how OPRF grads did applying to Emory and how admitted students succeeded there. He had nothing on UF going back four or five years. Neither did any of the other counselors. It didn't seem to exist. Even f$u came to campus every year for a presentation, as did UF until several years ago. Berkley, Michigan, NC, UVA, UCLA, Washington and UNC all came through to present to a full house in our auditorium. Almost every SEC school also came through to present. Private and international schools took up the other slots, all the Ivies, MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, The Claremont Colleges, Occidental, St. Andrews, UCL, McGill, Edinburgh and Glasgow. Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan. It wasn't like there were no UF quality students.

My twins wore orange and blue every other day of the school week. They were raised to believe that UF was a great global force in higher education. Then it disappeared when they got to high school. UF was invisible. It didn't matter what I said to them. There was not enough data to recommend a single application to the university. It became clear that the university didn't care if anyone from their high school or anyone else in Illinois applied to UF. Except of course Antonio Morrison, God bless them. No one from my kids' high school class of 3400 applied to UF, and 14 of them ended up at southern universities.

UF is not a global university. It may no longer be a national university, especially if it chooses to discontinue outreach to out of state schools. It has become a great regional university. More power to them. They will never get another dime from me, not that I have a lot of dimes left after tuition at other schools.

[Gatorrick22]

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

You're not allowed to act snippy on your first post.... This ain't no political correctness forum either. :wave:

The question is: Do you think we get RN?

[GatorBen]

I understand where you're coming from, but it isn't a UF only thing. UT Austin also has about 8% out-of-state undergrads and falling.

Personally, I wish UF could and would raise the percentage out-of-state to supplement the budget. If they can't raise in-state tuition closer to market levels, increasing the number of students paying vastly more for that same education is a great way to make up the shortfall.

Of course the flip side is that even with in-state students being essentially the only competition now, you already have the loud complaints from many (voiced frequently on this board as well) that UF is already impossible to get into for a lot of very well qualified Florida high schoolers. Increased out-of-state admissions would only exacerbate that problem and at the end of the day it is Floridians that the state school has the political pressure to answer to.

On a related note, I get the picture that UF feels they can maintain the academic quality of the entering student body without much recruiting effort, in state or out. By way of example, UF cut hugely back on the value of their in-state National Merit scholarship a few years back so that its now a small fraction of what other state schools like UCF offer. But I don't think it has hurt them in terms of how many they enroll, so it is reinforcing UF's idea that they don't need to recruit much in state or out to still get the caliber of students they want.

[nastyreptile]

Yankees pile into Florida every day and actually bring their kids along who may have lived
in Illinois, Michigan, etc., the year before.

Now they apply to UF as a Florida resident but you think they leave their diversity back where they came from?

Your argument is full of holes and I'm sorry we will miss the dimes you were going to contribute...NOT!

[Gatorrick22]

Yankees pile into Florida every day and actually bring their kids along who may have lived
in Illinois, Michigan, etc., the year before.

Now they apply to UF as a Florida resident but you think they leave their diversity back where they came from?

Your argument is full of holes and I'm sorry we will miss the dimes you were going to contribute...NOT!

Still love your avatar. :happy:

[nastyreptile]

Still love your avatar. :happy:


Thanks, they almost had me remove it several times but it was on regular TV on one of those beer commercials so they let me keep it.

They did remove it from the Smartest Gator site and gave me a generic....:sad:

[GatorAvatar]

I understand where you're coming from, but it isn't a UF only thing. UT Austin also has about 8% out-of-state undergrads and falling.

Personally, I wish UF could and would raise the percentage out-of-state to supplement the budget. If they can't raise in-state tuition closer to market levels, increasing the number of students paying vastly more for that same education is a great way to make up the shortfall.

Of course the flip side is that even with in-state students being essentially the only competition now, you already have the loud complaints from many (voiced frequently on this board as well) that UF is already impossible to get into for a lot of very well qualified Florida high schoolers. Increased out-of-state admissions would only exacerbate that problem and at the end of the day it is Floridians that the state school has the political pressure to answer to.

On a related note, I get the picture that UF feels they can maintain the academic quality of the entering student body without much recruiting effort, in state or out. By way of example, UF cut hugely back on the value of their in-state National Merit scholarship a few years back so that its now a small fraction of what other state schools like UCF offer. But I don't think it has hurt them in terms of how many they enroll, so it is reinforcing UF's idea that they don't need to recruit much in state or out to still get the caliber of students they want.

Where in that treatise does it refer to Nkemdiche? Lol, just a joke :grin:

[1984Gator]

Yankees pile into Florida every day and actually bring their kids along who may have lived
in Illinois, Michigan, etc., the year before.

Now they apply to UF as a Florida resident but you think they leave their diversity back where they came from?

Your argument is full of holes and I'm sorry we will miss the dimes you were going to contribute...NOT!

That is a very peculiar definition of diversity!

[1984Gator]

Big difference between 82% and 92%. Big difference between UF and Berkley and Michigan. I do know that Michigan and Berkley are both major destinations for thet tops graduates from my kids' high school. The most disturbing thing was that our guidance counselors had no info about UF. There was no outreach, no interaction with the counselors. Almost no UF admissions people were represented at the conferences our counselors attended. When we started asking our counselor about where our kids should submit applications, they asked my wife and I where we went to school. My wife is an Emory grad. He immediately said Emory. He had a great relationship with Emory and a lot of insight about how OPRF grads did applying to Emory and how admitted students succeeded there. He had nothing on UF going back four or five years. Neither did any of the other counselors. It didn't seem to exist. Even f$u came to campus every year for a presentation, as did UF until several years ago. Berkley, Michigan, NC, UVA, UCLA, Washington and UNC all came through to present to a full house in our auditorium. Almost every SEC school also came through to present. Private and international schools took up the other slots, all the Ivies, MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, The Claremont Colleges, Occidental, St. Andrews, UCL, McGill, Edinburgh and Glasgow. Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan. It wasn't like there were no UF quality students.

My twins wore orange and blue every other day of the school week. They were raised to believe that UF was a great global force in higher education. Then it disappeared when they got to high school. UF was invisible. It didn't matter what I said to them. There was not enough data to recommend a single application to the university. It became clear that the university didn't care if anyone from their high school or anyone else in Illinois applied to UF. Except of course Antonio Morrison, God bless them. No one from my kids' high school class of 3400 applied to UF, and 14 of them ended up at southern universities.

UF is not a global university. It may no longer be a national university, especially if it chooses to discontinue outreach to out of state schools. It has become a great regional university. More power to them. They will never get another dime from me, not that I have a lot of dimes left after tuition at other schools.

Sour grapes Strange. It's a top 10 public university. I work with kids from China that constantly mention Florida, Michigan, Texas, UCLA etc as possible graduate destinations. Florida has made a an effort to private schools rather than public ghetto schools in recent years in order to find students that are better prepared for elite public university studies....

[1984Gator]

I've been saying this for years. Guy hates Gainesville, hates Florida, hates the south, comes up with all kinds of ways to put down UF and build up any decent school that a kid might be considering, but continues to bless us with his presence on the recruiting site. Its really an amazing study in human behavior. Like we really care about the 164 reasons why his daughters are better off not at UF...........

And all because we don't recruit his daughter's ghetto HS in Illinois.....

[Gatorphenom]

Coach Mushamp has an in home with him tomorrow, he has named Ole Miss as his leader but....well...was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?

[Danielmaddie]

I've heard from many if it was school vs school with no family involved he would be 100% Gator but reality is that no school will overcome the family connection and he is headed to Ole Miss.

[gatorsallday]

Can't wait. If he commits to ole miss everyone's gonna be like " I told u so"

[raquetclub]

UF grad schools are definitely national/international.

Probably more PhD physics candidates from China than from Florida.

[UFreak]

Can't wait. If he commits to ole miss everyone's gonna be like " I told u so"

Well sure they will. But we got a visit and WM still has an in home. It's not over till its over.

[DieAGator]

Probably more PhD physics candidates from China than from Florida.

We are good to our trading partners.

[GatorofGermany]

Coach Mushamp has an in home with him tomorrow, he has named Ole Miss as his leader but....well...was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?

I think I got your point but the Germans never did bomb Pearl Harbor...

[mfpardnor2]

I think I got your point but the Germans never did bomb Pearl Harbor...

Rent the movie "Animal House" :bored:

[GatorofGermany]

Rent the movie "Animal House" :bored:

Ah, got it. Thanks

[raidsgt]

Rent the movie "Animal House" :bored:

Haha this has happened like 3 times now, and I laughed when it first posted, knowing it would happen again...

[StrangeGator]

Yankees pile into Florida every day and actually bring their kids along who may have lived
in Illinois, Michigan, etc., the year before.

Now they apply to UF as a Florida resident but you think they leave their diversity back where they came from?

Your argument is full of holes and I'm sorry we will miss the dimes you were going to contribute...NOT!

I believe you have to live in the state for three years to be establish residency.

[demosthenes]

I believe you have to live in the state for three years to be establish residency.

For what? I've never heard of such a thing.

[swampbabe]

I believe you have to live in the state for three years to be establish residency.

No

[Gatorrick22]

No

One year - right?

[swampbabe]

One year - right?

Correct, unless you are employed by a public school system in the state of Florida, in which case you can claim residency with no waiting period. This was the road that we took, just about the only perk to being a teacher in this state :wave:

[StrangeGator]

Correct, unless you are employed by a public school system in the state of Florida, in which case you can claim residency with no waiting period. This was the road that we took, just about the only perk to being a teacher in this state :wave:

That's unusual. Texas and California both require two to three years. We actually looked at moving to Texas for their universities.

[StrangeGator]

Sour grapes Strange. It's a top 10 public university. I work with kids from China that constantly mention Florida, Michigan, Texas, UCLA etc as possible graduate destinations. Florida has made a an effort to private schools rather than public ghetto schools in recent years in order to find students that are better prepared for elite public university studies....

It would be sour grades if she had applied and to UF had been turned down. She was wait-listed at Michigan and turned down by Texas, which has the same 92% redline that UF has. Michigan accepts a lot of out of state students. Probably 30% or more. Wisconsin accepts 40% from out of state.

Never mind diversity, holding 92% of openings for in-state students is a bad idea financially and academically. UF and Texas are the only top public schools that do that and they are both dropping in the rankings. It gives the universality limited exposure and it limits the acceptance pool in both cases to bottom third public schools systems.

[StrangeGator]

And all because we don't recruit his daughter's ghetto HS in Illinois.....

Her ghetto high school has probably produced more Pulitzer and Noble winners than UF, and more prominent leaders in science, business and the arts than UF can claim. Ernest Hemingway, Ray Krok, Paul Harvey, Dan Castenelleta, Kathy Griffin and Johnny Galecki from Big Bang Theory. Scientests Chad Trujillo, the astronomer who discovered Trans Neptuntian Objects, James Thomson, who created the first embryonic stem cell line and James Herrick who discovered sickle cell anemia. Tell me about your ghetto high school.

Now tell me why UF should follow a school like that for years, then suddenly cut off contact?

[gtr2x]

WTH, I thought this was a recruiting thread. Reads more like an academic pi$$ing contest.

But since we're pontificating......... one of my son's frat brothers at UF was from Chicago and one of his gfs was from there after spending one yr in Jax so a few Midwesterners do sneak in.

I know 2 fla kids that went to Michigan. One went because his dad was an alum and transferred to UF after the first winter. The other one is now in his soph year and happy. Of course he is from Canada ooriginally and loves hockey. Same deal with wisconsin....2 went, 1 bailed after the first winter and 1 graduated, tho she returned home after graduating.

Not sure what this has to do with recruiting the kid in the op, but all things equal, most Fla kids would rather not freeze their a$$ off. "Most" being the key word.

[Tebowism0823]

I don't know why you guys keep arguing with Strange. He hates the state of Florida and UF. No real shock to see him state anything relative to that.

[1984Gator]

It would be sour grades if she had applied and to UF had been turned down. She was wait-listed at Michigan and turned down by Texas, which has the same 92% redline that UF has. Michigan accepts a lot of out of state students. Probably 30% or more. Wisconsin accepts 40% from out of state.

Never mind diversity, holding 92% of openings for in-state students is a bad idea financially and academically. UF and Texas are the only top public schools that do that and they are both dropping in the rankings. It gives the universality limited exposure and it limits the acceptance pool in both cases to bottom third public schools systems.

Sorry strange, I was originally just messing with you for being a negative nellie but Florida isn't dropping in any ranking that count. The US News blipped us a couple years ago over class size but that was about the State of Florida public education budget which hammered. Even that rag moved us way back up last year. Forbes placed us at 10th among public universities and biased all 4 military academies ahead of us but that leaves us in very good company. As a research university, we are ranked quite well. Your complain about Florida focusing on Florida highs school admissions doesn't carry any water because the size of the pool is just so large that we end up getting a very strong group every year and most have grown up in international cities like Miami and have had the benefit of top quality private education. Florida basically gives locals a free ride under the bright futures program as long as they make reasonable academic progress. Florida al;so knows these students are more likely to stay in Florida and develop their careers at home. In other words the state of Florida gets the benefit of providing virtually free education. Sorry you picked such a sucka$$ state to live in and that Florida doesn't recruit your daughter's ghetto school but if they were turned down by Texas, they wouldn't have gotten in at Florida either! Have you considered the JUCO route?

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I don't know why you guys keep arguing with Strange. He hates the state of Florida and UF. No real shock to see him state anything relative to that.

What's funny, is that they're doing it on a thread that is supposed to be about the nation's number one recruit. Can you imagine if Nkemdiche logged into Awesome recruiting, clicked on this thread, and saw that the last four or five pages had nothing to do with him at all?

It's all ego at this point. I actually enjoy watching Strange engage in a debate, though. He's one of those guys who will argue his point down to a stalemate every time. It's the thrill of proving they're better 'n Strange. But it looks as if Strange can not only out-read them and out-think them, but it appears that he's clearly out-learned some of them as well. And he can out-philosophize them. Now he's proving that he's gonna outlast 'em.

[elrongator]

He's not outlasting, arguing, or philosophizing anyone around here if his point is that UF is either lacking diversity compared to other universities, or losing prowess academically.
The bottomline is that it isn't.
It also makes him look stupid for bringing that kind of crap to a football recruiting board to begin with.
Get your head out of your posterior and take that garbage over to Too Hot.
This thread is about football players we are recruiting.
In that department we don't want or need diversity. We want 100% beast mode capable, bad ass athletes.
Jesus, get a life.

[AFCyberGator]

What happened to Nkemdiche thoroughly enjoying his visit to Florida and making a connection with Kelvin Taylor? Maybe the in home visit from Muschamp will leave a lasting impression.

[elrongator]

Agreed CyberGator. I can't believe all these kids would see better opportunity on any level with Ole Miss versus the position UF is in at this time.

[grant1]

Sorry strange, I was originally just messing with you for being a negative nellie but Florida isn't dropping in any ranking that count. The US News blipped us a couple years ago over class size but that was about the State of Florida public education budget which hammered. Even that rag moved us way back up last year. Forbes placed us at 10th among public universities and biased all 4 military academies ahead of us but that leaves us in very good company. As a research university, we are ranked quite well. Your complain about Florida focusing on Florida highs school admissions doesn't carry any water because the size of the pool is just so large that we end up getting a very strong group every year and most have grown up in international cities like Miami and have had the benefit of top quality private education. Florida basically gives locals a free ride under the bright futures program as long as they make reasonable academic progress. Florida al;so knows these students are more likely to stay in Florida and develop their careers at home. In other words the state of Florida gets the benefit of providing virtually free education. Sorry you picked such a sucka$$ state to live in and that Florida doesn't recruit your daughter's ghetto school but if they were turned down by Texas, they wouldn't have gotten in at Florida either! Have you considered the JUCO route?

Ooooo, that's harsh. I went the JUCO route and transferred to UF my Jr year, partly due to grades, partly due to costs. My parents were paying for 3 in college simulatneously. Actually, I could have had an academic scholarship to FAMU, as did any college-bound white in HS back then.

[your_perfect_enemy]

Her ghetto high school has probably produced more Pulitzer and Noble winners than UF, and more prominent leaders in science, business and the arts than UF can claim. Ernest Hemingway, Ray Krok, Paul Harvey, Dan Castenelleta, Kathy Griffin and Johnny Galecki from Big Bang Theory. Scientests Chad Trujillo, the astronomer who discovered Trans Neptuntian Objects, James Thomson, who created the first embryonic stem cell line and James Herrick who discovered sickle cell anemia. Tell me about your ghetto high school.

Now tell me why UF should follow a school like that for years, then suddenly cut off contact?

I'm don't care about any other point you've argued in this thread at all, but are you actually bragging on kathy griffin? really?

[mfpardnor2]

Can half this thread please move over to "Too Hot...." so we can get back to F'ing Recruiting.

[AFCyberGator]

Agreed CyberGator. I can't believe all these kids would see better opportunity on any level with Ole Miss versus the position UF is in at this time.

(Trying to get back on the topic of Nkemdiche.)

I understand Nkemdiche has family at Ole Miss and that the campus is beautiful, so I can see him going there. I just hope Muschamp has some recruiting magic to snag him.

[Gatorphenom]

So.........Muschamp and a few select coaches went all out, it's a wait and see long shot game but as I said....a chance is better than no chance.

[GatorAvatar]

Can half this thread please move over to "Too Hot...." so we can get back to F'ing Recruiting.

Amen.

[nastyreptile]

I'm don't care about any other point you've argued in this thread at all, but are you actually bragging on kathy griffin? really?


I thought that was hilarious myself...:embarrased:

[Gatorrick22]

Correct, unless you are employed by a public school system in the state of Florida, in which case you can claim residency with no waiting period. This was the road that we took, just about the only perk to being a teacher in this state :wave:

Thanks babe.

[RayGator]

Can half this thread please move over to "Too Hot...." so we can get back to F'ing Recruiting.

If half the thread could be moved over to TooHot I would do it in a heartbeat. But it can't. So everyone, please stay on Recruiting and the Recruit of focus on this thread. The only other option is to send this whole thread to the Trash Can and start it all over.

Thanks, and Go Gators!

[gymgator]

Silly me, thinking that page 19 would be the latest update on our coaches visiting Nkemdiche.

[elrongator]

I agree with trashing this thread and starting over with on topic updates about the named recruit rather than unsolicited diatribes about university diversity and admission standards etc...

[gatorr4life]

Silly me, thinking that page 19 would be the latest update on our coaches visiting Nkemdiche.

If you're on page 19, you must not be logged in. But that can't be true, because you posted this. How do I have 10 pages and you are on 19? Strange... Must be settings.

[UFFL]

If you're on page 19, you must not be logged in. But that can't be true, because you posted this. How do I have 10 pages and you are on 19? Strange... Must be settings.

You have more posts per page. I wish I knew how to change this

[1984Gator]

:tongue:

[AFCyberGator]

If you're on page 19, you must not be logged in. But that can't be true, because you posted this. How do I have 10 pages and you are on 19? Strange... Must be settings.

It depends on display settings and browser settings. On my phone it shows us as being on page 37. On my laptop we are on page 10 or so. On my crappy work computer we are on page 19 or so.

On all my devices, it shows Nkemdiche probably going to Ole Miss, but not giving up on the Master Flipper possibly changing that outcome.

[BobK89]

Just got an alert from ESPN that he is going to visit LSU.

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

[UFreak]

Just got an alert from ESPN that he is going to visit LSU.

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

I actually think that's a good thing. Anything that shows that he is still thinking is a good thing. I realize the chances are slim that we get him. But you have to play to the final whistle.

[ETGator1]

More pampering before he becomes just another player on the Ole Miss team.

ESPNU announcers said yesterday that it would be shocking if he were to land any place other than Ole Miss. He announcing on ESPNU bright and early on NSD. He'll want three hats on the table, Ole Miss, UF, and LSU. The only hat he is thinking about is the Ole Miss hat.

[BobK89]

What am I missing about Ole Miss? They didn't even recruit this well when they had Eli Manning!

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

[Lawdog88]

More pampering before he becomes just another player on the Ole Miss team.

ESPNU announcers said yesterday that it would be shocking if he were to land any place other than Ole Miss. He announcing on ESPNU bright and early on NSD. He'll want three hats on the table, Ole Miss, UF, and LSU. The only hat he is thinking about is the Ole Miss hat.


Wouldn't it be nice if these kids could dispense with the hat game silliness ?

I mean, how many thousands of times does it have to be repeated ? Why not draw names out of a hat (you can rig it of course). How about throwing darts to three different colored balloons (you can always explain a miss and laugh about it). Bust a Pinata with a surprise helmet inside. Have a cheerleader pop out of a cake.

Something, anything, and maybe even something without any stunts at all, like simply announcing into a microphone, Gators.

[Briang8r]

Wouldn't it be nice if these kids could dispense with the hat game silliness ?

I mean, how many thousands of times does it have to be repeated ? Why not draw names out of a hat (you can rig it of course). How about throwing darts to three different colored balloons (you can always explain a miss and laugh about it). Bust a Pinata with a surprise helmet inside. Have a cheerleader pop out of a cake.

Something, anything, and maybe even something without any stunts at all, like simply announcing into a microphone, Gators.

I personally would love to see one of those lottery machines with the ping pong balls. That would be exciting.

[BobK89]

Just got an ESPN alert that he met Shaqon campus. Thought that alumni could not recruit?

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

[mfpardnor2]

Shaq is on the University Police Department

[raidsgt]

Shaq does Buick commercials! !!!!!

[9600Gator]

You have more posts per page. I wish I knew how to change this

Go to User CP (http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/usercp.php).
On the left panel and under Settings & Options, click Edit Options (http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/profile.php?do=editoptions).
The third section down is Thread Display Options. There you can change the number of posts per page.

[Tebowism0823]

What am I missing about Ole Miss? They didn't even recruit this well when they had Eli Manning!

Sent from my iPhone using GatorCountry

Money Money Money Money............,MONEY!

[Tebowism0823]

Shaq is on the University Police Department

How convenient.

[elrongator]

Last chance to wake up and sign with the Gators Robert.
Don't waste your college career in the middle of suck ass red neck central!!!

[Gatorrick22]

Do you want to win, play in Championships, or watch them from home? :wink:

[dadx4]

Here in SC they are hearing that his das was given a sweet job and they are that's just what they know of.

[Gatorrick22]

Last chance to wake up and sign with the Gators Robert.
Don't waste your college career in the middle of suck ass red neck central!!!

Lol.......... Exactly!

[RayGator]

He is suppose to make his LOI announcement early at 7:35 A.M.

[toddsevans]

Gator Nation for Life Robert. 2nd2none!!!

[StrangeGator]

Why does his dad need a job in South Carolina? Isn't his mom some big gun in the Nigerian government?

[GatorAvatar]

Why does his dad need a job in South Carolina? Isn't his mom some big gun in the Nigerian government?

She probably is some corruption politician. Nigeria is full of scammers, fraudsters and crooks.

[RayGator]

He just announced on ESPNU that he will attend Ole Miss.

[RayGator]

Said he wanted to play with his brother.

[elrongator]

Gator Bait

[BigSlick]

OLD PISS?????? Must not like championships and rings!!!

[born2beagator]

have fun not doing anything with your college career in football OR academics

[GatorBen]

Not taking too long for Ole Miss to get themselves some compliance issues to deal with on this one thanks to overzealous Oxford folks.

By special request @funkys will have A New Daiquiri The NKEMDICHE! It's on Special all Day so come try one!

https://twitter.com/Funkys/status/299248717716926464