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ncbullgator
01-05-2013, 04:22 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100349332/page/11

College professors.

Easy job for the "progressive intellectuals" who check out the beautiful coeds on country club campuses all day and demand outrageous pensions and benefits. Very smart, but very lazy.

90% are liberals who believe in big government and against the wealth machine called capitalism.

Probably should have added college administrators too.

:yes:

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 04:44 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100349332/page/11

College professors.

Easy job for the "progressive intellectuals" who check out the beautiful coeds on country club campuses all day and demand outrageous pensions and benefits. Very smart, but very lazy.

90% are liberals who believe in big government and against the wealth machine called capitalism.

Probably should have added college administrators too.

:yes:

Low stress and "the best benefits." So why aren't you one? It sounds like you are really envious of their position. So why not just go become one?

philnotfil
01-05-2013, 04:59 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100349332/page/11

College professors.

Easy job for the "progressive intellectuals" who check out the beautiful coeds on country club campuses all day and demand outrageous pensions and benefits. Very smart, but very lazy.

90% are liberals who believe in big government and against the wealth machine called capitalism.

Probably should have added college administrators too.

:yes:

That may be true for the 30% of professors who are on the tenure track (note that isn't professors who have tenure, that 30% include the associate and assistant professors who are busting their tails in hopes of someday receiving tenure), but that certainly isn't true for the majority of college professors.

A tenure track professor at a R1 university will usually teach 2-3 classes each semester. The other full-time faculty members will be teaching 3-5 classes each semester for two-thirds of the pay, and the adjuncts will be teaching as many as they can at as many schools as they can get to each week. Typical pay for an adjunct is 2-3k per class. For many adjuncts, to make enough to pay their student loans, they have to teach so many classes that they don't have time for research, which means that they can't get the tenure track positions.

But yeah, an established professor with tenure has a pretty sweet gig. But they are few and far between.

busigator96
01-05-2013, 05:09 PM
They have to even have grants now to get hired at a state university. Profs are on commission due to the state budget cuts.

gatorman_07732
01-05-2013, 05:19 PM
Truth is tenured professors are being phased out
Gonna have to disagree with the OP on this especially when it comes to the sciences. If you want to be recognized and be at the top of what you do, it requires working your butt with endless hours. There are many expectations as the large percentage of funds is brought in through research.

Dreamliner
01-05-2013, 05:26 PM
Low stress and "the best benefits." So why aren't you one? It sounds like you are really envious of their position. So why not just go become one?

Scruples, maybe.

ncbullgator
01-05-2013, 05:42 PM
Low stress and "the best benefits." So why aren't you one? It sounds like you are really envious of their position. So why not just go become one?

Really? How many successfull businessmen are even "allowed" to enter the college professorship treasure trove?

The barriers are many including the most obvious one: accountibility. The clique will never allow a successful conservative businessmen to expose many of them for what they really are. Slackers. Smart slackers.

If I was 20 something and used the wisdom I have today, maybe I would.

Nah.

:joecool:

ChartsandGrafs
01-05-2013, 05:47 PM
Scruples, maybe.

Dude, your talents are wasted on this message board. Honestly, you should be a pundit on TV slicing and dicing up the day's events with the same quick one-line wit you employ here.

I'd watch, and I don't even have cable.

JerseyGator01
01-05-2013, 06:12 PM
This list didn't include jobs exclusively done in the public sector. Gee, I wonder why.

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 07:14 PM
Really? How many successfull businessmen are even "allowed" to enter the college professorship treasure trove?

The barriers are many including the most obvious one: accountibility. The clique will never allow a successful conservative businessmen to expose many of them for what they really are. Slackers. Smart slackers.

If I was 20 something and used the wisdom I have today, maybe I would.

Nah.

:joecool:

Excuses, excuses. Many people go back to school from the private sector all the time with the goal of a career in academia. Just went to a really good presentation by a former Silicon Valley exec who is now an Econ PhD student on webscraping just a few weeks back. Is it the conservative businessman that has convinced you that you aren't capable of accomplishing what you want to accomplish?

Afraid you wouldn't be able to put up with the hours of grad school? You might think twice about calling them all slackers after you have to work another night well past midnight on coursework and then realize that you need to start working on your own research projects.

oaklandroadie
01-05-2013, 07:15 PM
Whoops...I thought this would be about Al Gore, who has almost become Romney-like wealthy, but has never satisfied one customer.

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Scruples, maybe.

What is unscrupulous about academia as a profession? Heck, if you were opposed to working at a state University like the University of Florida (you know what this message board is based upon), you could always limit your job search to private universities.

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 07:18 PM
Whoops...I thought this would be about Al Gore, who has almost become Romney-like wealthy, but has never satisfied one customer.

Apple and Google have never satisfied a single customer? Weird, I always thought they had pretty good reputations amongst their consumers.

wargunfan
01-05-2013, 07:46 PM
What is it about college professorships that attracts Marxist atheists? Is it the access to a gullible captive audience? And paying customers to boot.

ChartsandGrafs
01-05-2013, 08:21 PM
What is it about college professorships that attracts Marxist atheists? Is it the access to a gullible captive audience? And paying customers to boot.

Take a close look at the details of the Fabian Window:

http://www.awakeandarise.org/Images/FabianWindow.jpg

Now read the words at the top.

REMOULD IT NEARER TO THE HEARTS DESIRE

The stained glass window was designed by George Bernard Shaw in 1910 as a commemoration of the Fabian Society, and shows fellow Society members Sidney Webb and Edward R. Pease, among others, helping to build 'the new world'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Window

The "education" system is a key part of this remoulding process, which is and has been taking place all around us for the last hundred years. It's not an accident that our schools and universities are breeding grounds for socialist ideas.

G8trGr8t
01-05-2013, 08:23 PM
there is a interesting case I read about recently about a conservative lawyer who had taught for years at a college and was applying for a full time job but was turned down due to her work defending planned parenthood I believe.

The tenured professors only want those that believe as they do to join the club, kind of like Reid not letting anything come to a vote that he doesn't agree with. It probably does require a lot of hard work to meet the minimum criteria to qualify but acadamia, much like most public jobs, is a go along get along world where independent thinkers and hard workers wanting to be judged on merit are often not welcomed as it puts the others in a bad light. Kind of like union jobs where employees are told by the unions what their productivity can be and if they exceed that, they are brought into line or given alternate, less desirable work assignments.

tenure, at a college level or at a second grade level, should be abolished.

if I knew then what I know now, I would have become a fireman at 18 and be retired now with a guaranteed 6 figure pension for the remaining 30 or so years of my life. It might ahve taken a lot of meds to get into the go along get along mentality but I could have entertained myself like most public employees counting down the days, hours, and minutes till I got to go on the permanent dole

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 08:40 PM
there is a interesting case I read about recently about a conservative lawyer who had taught for years at a college and was applying for a full time job but was turned down due to her work defending planned parenthood I believe.

The tenured professors only want those that believe as they do to join the club, kind of like Reid not letting anything come to a vote that he doesn't agree with. It probably does require a lot of hard work to meet the minimum criteria to qualify but acadamia, much like most public jobs, is a go along get along world where independent thinkers and hard workers wanting to be judged on merit are often not welcomed as it puts the others in a bad light. Kind of like union jobs where employees are told by the unions what their productivity can be and if they exceed that, they are brought into line or given alternate, less desirable work assignments.

tenure, at a college level or at a second grade level, should be abolished.

if I knew then what I know now, I would have become a fireman at 18 and be retired now with a guaranteed 6 figure pension for the remaining 30 or so years of my life. It might ahve taken a lot of meds to get into the go along get along mentality but I could have entertained myself like most public employees counting down the days, hours, and minutes till I got to go on the permanent dole

Those are more often than not excuses used by people that were simply unsuccessful. Academia has plenty of conservatives hanging around. It certainly has more liberals, but tons of conservatives rise to high levels of academia as well. Why do you think Romney went to the Dean of the Columbia Business School (Glenn Hubbard) and the Chairman of the Harvard Econ department (Greg Mankiw) as his official economic advisers? You figure Columbia and Harvard are centers of conservative academics? Or is promotion in academia based more on capability than some would like to admit?

oaklandroadie
01-05-2013, 10:43 PM
Apple and Google have never satisfied a single customer? Weird, I always thought they had pretty good reputations amongst their consumers.

Al Gore was an officer/employee of Google and Apple? Who knew?

mdgator05
01-05-2013, 11:03 PM
Al Gore was an officer/employee of Google and Apple? Who knew?

Lots of people. And was is not the correct word. The word you are looking for is "is."

He is on the Board of Directors at Apple and a Senior Adviser to Google.

ncbullgator
01-05-2013, 11:13 PM
Excuses, excuses. Many people go back to school from the private sector all the time with the goal of a career in academia. Just went to a really good presentation by a former Silicon Valley exec who is now an Econ PhD student on webscraping just a few weeks back. Is it the conservative businessman that has convinced you that you aren't capable of accomplishing what you want to accomplish?

Afraid you wouldn't be able to put up with the hours of grad school? You might think twice about calling them all slackers after you have to work another night well past midnight on coursework and then realize that you need to start working on your own research projects.

Survey says: College Professors.

As far as I am concerned, my immediate goal is to cruise the Mediterranean this summer.

Ha ha. There isn't a grad student alive who could have kept up with me in my twenties and thirties. Or forties.

:joecool:

GatorNorth
01-05-2013, 11:41 PM
Scruples, maybe.

So college professors are now unscrupulous?

This board can be so effed up.

PITBOSS
01-06-2013, 12:07 AM
Scruples, maybe.

I’ve seen your bigoted posts. You don't need to talk about "scruples."

Spurffelbow833
01-06-2013, 12:25 AM
Low stress and "the best benefits." So why aren't you one? It sounds like you are really envious of their position. So why not just go become one?

Really. "Stupid" is one thing you can't call people who found an easy gig in life, and anything else you can come up with is envy.

rpmGator
01-06-2013, 06:54 AM
When did it become part of being conservative, to hunt down every good paying American job and trying to get rid of it. Then bitching about no help with taxes.

Getting our asses kicked in the last election didn't jar anything in the closed minded.

ChartsandGrafs
01-06-2013, 03:05 PM
When did it become part of being conservative, to hunt down every good paying American job and trying to get rid of it.

I don't know, probably about the same time it became popular to create such jobs by stealing money from one group of people and redistributing it to another group of people.

texigator
01-07-2013, 04:07 AM
Apple and Google have never satisfied a single customer? Weird, I always thought they had pretty good reputations amongst their consumers.



So you REALLY believe that Al Gore was hired by them for his business or techinal acumen and not to purchase his political influence? How incredibly naive of you.

DaveFla
01-07-2013, 06:02 AM
Al Gore was an officer/employee of Google and Apple? Who knew?

He invented them...

rpmGator
01-07-2013, 06:48 AM
Not sure why you would want to fight private jobs, just because of public jobs, yet you do.

The point being, the hate for any good paying job, public or private has become a pattern for conservatives. Hate for a lot of things rule some now, and it isn't making the party bigger for sure.