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Jaggator
12-22-2012, 11:22 PM
What say you? Never thought this could be possible.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274245-poll-boehner-now-less-popular-than-pelosi

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PIMking
12-22-2012, 11:23 PM
Everytime I see his name I always think Boner instead. Nothing perverted but just for some reason.

QGator2414
12-22-2012, 11:24 PM
To me or the public?

Me Pelosi though I can't stand Boehner now...

The public is so screwed up it is probably a coin flip.

Dreamliner
12-22-2012, 11:31 PM
New poll shows the American people are less popular with me than ever before.

Dreamliner
12-22-2012, 11:48 PM
On the other hand, Obama was more popular, with himself, than Daniel Inouye was at Inouye's funeral. Obama couldn't stop talking about himself.

QGator2414
12-22-2012, 11:49 PM
New poll shows the American people are less popular with me than ever before.

:)

oragator1
12-23-2012, 01:00 AM
I mentioned this a week or so ago, he's in an impossible position. If he compromises at all he loses the right and if he doesn't he loses the center. He tried a partial with his vote last week and looked bad to both.
Either he is going to have to just bite the bullet and make the deal with dems and moderate pubs (an possibly lose his speakership), or give in to his base, let us go over on Jan 1 and be viewed as the devil by everyone not voting on who the speaker is.

rajinGator
12-23-2012, 01:05 AM
And conversely I've sure Sandra Fluke is polling very high.........hmmmm

PITBOSS
12-23-2012, 01:08 AM
On the other hand, Obama was more popular, with himself, than Daniel Inouye was at Inouye's funeral. Obama couldn't stop talking about himself.

Link?

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 01:10 AM
All the more reason to break up the GOP. Since the Mainline pubs are go-slow Democrats, let them be subsumed by the Democrats. This alone will make the Democrats slower. That would leave fiscal conservatives to form a smaller but loyal opposition.

Not to worry, there won't be any ant-war parties. There will only be a big war party and a small war party.

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 01:18 AM
That said, it's amazing how many people don't get that there are millions of Americans who do not send people to Washington to compromise, but rather to stand their ground. Even more amazing, many of these millions become angry when the people they send to Washington proceed to do what they were sent to do.

It goes back to the larger problem: the voters. Their approval rating with me has shrunk to single digits.

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 01:22 AM
Link?

http://www.instapundit.com

scroll down to: "Even Slate is mocking Obama ..."

Jaggator
12-23-2012, 01:24 AM
"President Barack Obama was reportedly so frustrated with House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) during fiscal cliff negotiations this week, he threatened to blame Republicans in a very public setting."

The Wall Street Journal reports:

Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn't reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.

Obama urged Congress on Friday to pass a smaller measure to avert the fiscal cliff after Boehner pulled his "plan B" Thursday "because it did not have sufficient support" from Republicans.

Despite his failure to muscle his fiscal cliff fallback through the House, Boehner said he was "not" worried about his speakership.

“Listen, you have all heard me say this, and I have told my colleagues this. If you do the right things every day for the right reasons, the right things will happen,” Boehner said at a press conference Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/22/obama-state-of-the-union-_n_2352613.html?icid=maing-grid7|maing10|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D249283

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 01:31 AM
"There's too much division in this country. Do things my way and end the division. Also, I'm going to take this opportunity to say 'God' to you again."

-- President Obama --

G8trGr8t
12-23-2012, 08:38 AM
The beginning of a third party?

gatordowneast
12-23-2012, 08:49 AM
The beginning of a third party?

No. Pubs need new leadership in both the house and senate. And of course the head of the party will be the nominee in 2016. I would expect the new leadership will emerge from the Ryan, Rubio, Ayotte, Martinez generation. Pubs control 30 governor's offices and there are bright stars among the governors who will have executive experience.

Boehner and McConnell are both skilled politicians but both are the wrong messengers and are tired of the battles and need to retire. Same with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi on the demo side.

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 11:23 AM
How new leadership, by coup ? The existing leadership has just purged the fiscal conservatives, including those probably not as likely to take guff from Obama. Basically, right now we've got Obama vs. Obama Lite.

108
12-23-2012, 11:34 AM
with a 2 party system, both sides will never really lose its base

people will always pick the lesser of 2 evils

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 11:48 AM
Meanwhile:

"Obama unlikely to gain from divided GOP"

http://www.latimes.com

JerseyGator01
12-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Behold the power of media brainwashing. Someone has to be the Grinch.

CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 01:41 PM
^ That's what I'm saying. The public is ALREADY POISED to blame the Republicans no matter what they do. This, I should think, has much to do with the narrative the media has shaped and a gullible public's readiness to swallow it. That along with a servile public's readiness to fall in line behind any president in a time of crisis.

T3goalie
12-23-2012, 02:38 PM
Pelosi, like her or not, stands for something.

Boehner, stands for absolutely nothing. He is a rudderless ship. He represents the absolute worst person for a position of leadership in anything.

Dreamliner
12-23-2012, 03:34 PM
Pelosi, like her or not, stands for something.

Boehner, stands for absolutely nothing. He is a rudderless ship. He represents the absolute worst person for a position of leadership in anything.

That's the thing though. Americans SAY they want compromise. so, Boehner's willing to compromise and gets pilloried for it. This is because Americans are stupid and confused. Americans need to be voted out of voting.

rivergator
12-23-2012, 03:40 PM
You guys do live your own self-created bubble,don't you? If the public blames the Democrats for anything, it's because the Democrats are at fault. If the public blames the Republicans for anything, it's because the media has fooled the public.

T3goalie
12-23-2012, 11:18 PM
That's the thing though. Americans SAY they want compromise. so, Boehner's willing to compromise and gets pilloried for it. This is because Americans are stupid and confused. Americans need to be voted out of voting.

BS. When was the is the last time Pelosi, Reed or the President compromised on anything? Some may not like the direction, but they have led, neither compromised nor followed. Boehner negotiates against himself and Obama leads the Dem party. Boehner has no steel in his spine. Pelosi, Reed and Obama have grit. The polls were negative in re health care bill and the Dem leadership did not give a crap about polls and they went forward. Again you may not like their direction, but they have a cleat direction. Boenher has none and is simply a dog chasing his tail. He is severely in over his head/ out of his depth. Nobody respects a coward who gives it away.

thedyc09
12-24-2012, 01:51 AM
What the average American knows about Boehner: freakish orange tan, crying, Obama doesn't like him.

GatorAvatar
12-24-2012, 03:10 AM
Boehner is not a Tea Party guy.

T3goalie
12-24-2012, 11:00 AM
Boehner is not a Tea Party guy.

That is true.

The Tea party is 180 degrees from Pelosi, Reed and the President. And like them, it stands for something (whether you agree with them or not). Boehner stands for nothing and that is why he has so little support. The liberal voters can't stand him and the conservatives can't stand him.

He is however a useful tool for the Democrats, because they know Boehner''s M.O. He will capitulate when it gets down and dirty because he has no spine. Unlike Pelosi and Reed, he is not a fighter or a leader. :beat:

Dreamliner
12-24-2012, 01:42 PM
BS. When was the is the last time Pelosi, Reed or the President compromised on anything? Some may not like the direction, but they have led, neither compromised nor followed. Boehner negotiates against himself and Obama leads the Dem party. Boehner has no steel in his spine. Pelosi, Reed and Obama have grit. The polls were negative in re health care bill and the Dem leadership did not give a crap about polls and they went forward. Again you may not like their direction, but they have a cleat direction. Boenher has none and is simply a dog chasing his tail. He is severely in over his head/ out of his depth. Nobody respects a coward who gives it away.

BS yourself. And as long as people are allowed to vote, BS is all you're going to get.

T3goalie
12-24-2012, 06:27 PM
DREAM- I WAS NOT SAYING YOU WERE FULL OF BS.

I WAS SAYING THAT "AMERICANS" SAYING THEY WANT COMPROMISE ARE FULL OF BS.

Americans want somebody else to foot their bills. Let those evil rich pay. My point was that pelosi, et al, never compromise. They promise...

Dreamliner
12-24-2012, 06:30 PM
DREAM- I WAS NOT SAYING YOU WERE FULL OF BS.

I WAS SAYING THAT "AMERICANS" SAYING THEY WANT COMPROMISE ARE FULL OF BS.

Americans want somebody else to foot their bills. Let those evil rich pay. My point was that pelosi, et al, never compromise. They promise...

Gotcha. sorry about that. You'll forgive me for thinking sometimes that everyone on this board is a liberal. :wink:

candymanfromgc
12-25-2012, 05:47 PM
Why are only two people out over 500 elected representatives deciding anything?

wargunfan
12-25-2012, 07:41 PM
Please allow me to add my voice to those who say that the American voting public has lost the ability to vote rationally. Their negative rating with me is in the 65% range and climbing.

The_Graygator
12-25-2012, 10:21 PM
What say you? Never thought this could be possible.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274245-poll-boehner-now-less-popular-than-pelosi

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNRDY9EF64OA8gMdjmHyVtHl0qBCotc lpzfh6zcYk393SpeN8Y3whttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScP_Yn6bci6mpbqTPJQ1Hz6qAxy7mSx myGVGRjC6b76yqxTlD7oQ


This is surprising to you, with a mainstream media that is nothing more than a lying propaganda machine for the left?

T3goalie
12-26-2012, 11:40 AM
This is surprising to you, with a mainstream media that is nothing more than a lying propaganda machine for the left?

Is Boehner related to Actor George Hamilton and Charlie Crist?

Matthanuf06
12-26-2012, 11:45 AM
I mentioned this a week or so ago, he's in an impossible position. If he compromises at all he loses the right and if he doesn't he loses the center. He tried a partial with his vote last week and looked bad to both.
Either he is going to have to just bite the bullet and make the deal with dems and moderate pubs (an possibly lose his speakership), or give in to his base, let us go over on Jan 1 and be viewed as the devil by everyone not voting on who the speaker is.

Or perhaps they should all worry about not destroying the country instead of poll numbers?

The_Graygator
12-26-2012, 11:47 AM
Is Boehner related to Actor George Hamilton and Charlie Crist?

Don't know, but he's a better actor than Hamilton though. lol

oragator1
12-26-2012, 03:14 PM
Or perhaps they should all worry about not destroying the country instead of poll numbers?

Oh I agree, but good luck on that happening.

Dreamliner
12-26-2012, 03:32 PM
Boehner is not a Tea Party guy.

Apparently, Americans are piling on Boehner because he doesn't want to slash government.

Of course I'm being sarcastic.

JohnC1908
12-26-2012, 07:58 PM
Who finds either of these two "popular?"

DeanMeadGator
01-04-2013, 02:31 PM
Who finds either of these two "popular?"

Reminds me of high school. I don't think either one is popular.:laugh::laugh:

Dreamliner
01-04-2013, 03:20 PM
Bear in mind we're polling the same people who admire Hillary Clinton more than they do Mother Theresa.

T3goalie
01-05-2013, 10:00 AM
Go easy on Boehner. The new tanning salon tax is going to crush him.