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tupacbiff
12-05-2012, 10:32 PM
Another absolute destruction. Not a whole I can say but very impressive overall play by the team. We also seem to be much better prepared this year compared to last. I am sure the coaching staff is some addition by subtraction and addition by addition. Onto the grades...

Rosario, 6: PLayed very much under control for Mike. Provided the spark in the 1st half and remained in control for the most part. Still had a maddening play or two but got the 6 because I didnt see any glaring defensive mistakes. Also did a better job of taking care of the ball.

KB, 4: Just did not shoot the ball well enough from 3 to warrant a higher grade today. A lot of his points came from leak outs. Also had an absolutely horrendous decision at the end of the 1st half. He waived off the screen to take a highly contested deep three. Was he channeling Erv Walker? Hopefully he learns from it and in future games we get a better shot. Reb well again and his def was very very good.

Yeguete, 5: Typical WY game. His positional def is just so good.

Wilbekin, 6: It started off like he was going to play an amazing offensive game but that quickly faded. Offensively he shot it kind of poorly. He had a lot of opportunity running the high ball screen and could have kept shooting it cause they were backing off. However, he only did it once because he was too focused on the pass. Take a page out of T. Green's book and keep making them pay until they defend it properly then pass. Defensively he was a 10. 5 steals and great on ball defense. Also good in the press.

Young, 6: Nice overall game and I finally got the feeling he intimidated the opponent.

Walker, 5: 0-2 from the field but had a very nice shot challenge in the 1st half. It showed good awareness and recognition. Obviously needs to get stronger. Had an open lay up but went to the reverse instead of powering up.

Prather, 4: Unfortunately, picked up 2 dumb fouls that limited his minutes. He is beast on the press with relentless hustle. Offensively he didnt have much of a chance to take guys off the dribble. Fantastic dunk and 3 went in and out.

Kurtz, NG

Frazier II, 7: another fantastic game by Frazier. Reminds me more and more of Ronnie Henderson of LSU fame. His 3 pt shot is fantastic but I am more impressed by the quick release and his ability to spot up off the ball. He creates just enough space. Showed the next phase of his game when FSU ran at him, he was able to put it on the floor and get to the rim. Def was weaker than usual and for the 1st time seemed to be impacted negatively by opponents size.

Ogbueze, NG: As predicted on another thread I said he would not get meaningful minutes. However, he showed a very slick cross over but then paused rather then attacking. Took a poor shot.

Graham, NG: Touched the ball once on offense.

Murphy, 6: Playing injured he really competed physically. 7 reb were an improvement. He looked winded a bit.

Billy, 9: Excellent performance by Billy and the staff. The team was really prepared and he was a maestro defensively. I loved that he went really big with KB 1, Prather 2, WY 3, Murph 4, and Young 5. I think that lineup is tremendous def and in certain situations can be impactful. This was the precise game to try it in and file it away for later. My only gripe is with 8 min left we were up 37 and he stuck with the rotation. No reason in that situation you cant bring in Walker or Graham for a few meaningfull min with other guys who get min.

Refs, 5: The game was a blowout and they kept it in check. Blew too many whistles but FSU sort of makes you.

Announcers, 6: Not a lot to complain about with Len Elmore. He is steady and not annoying. Plus it was a blow out. Not sure how I felt about the play by play guy. He made a couple of bad errors with saying the wrong players name ie Prather for 3 when it wasnt him.

Team Offense, 5: I didn't think we executed particularly well. A lot of our points came off of TO or offensive reb. I think we could have punished them with the high ball screen but didn't. FSU is a good defensive team.

Team Def, 9: Great positionally but fell off at the end (can't blame them). A lot of TO were unforced but even when FSU tried to execute or run sets they couldn't get anything good. We shut down Snaer for the meaningful part of the game. Our press was very effective, our zone was very effective and our man was very effective.

Other thoughts: Man FSU needs a PG and an offensive coach. We know Hamilton can coach def but he (and his staff) sure look inept on coaching offense.

MadduxFanII
12-05-2012, 10:36 PM
For the life of me I'm not sure why Hamilton has so much trouble recruiting players who can, you know, dribble, but I hope he never figures it out.

InstiGATOR1
12-05-2012, 10:37 PM
I certainly agree with you on offense and when guys get their complete body in front of your pass, it is them not your d so much. FSU is a bad, bad team right now.

gatordavisl
12-05-2012, 10:47 PM
Billy a 9! Strike the harp and join the chorus.

HALLGATOR
12-05-2012, 10:58 PM
I am becoming more of a fan of how Scottie is progressing.

InstiGATOR1
12-05-2012, 11:29 PM
I am becoming more of a fan of how Scottie is progressing.

I have been a fan of his from almost the start. I was surprised that he was third in themistocles' MVP points. And while he gives points for quantitative defensive things like steals and blocks, it does not really count frustrating the leading scorer of the other team.

outbackjack
12-05-2012, 11:32 PM
1. Walker did not play in the first half. I think I know the challenged shot you are talking about, was it at the bottom of the screen, left wing, 3 pointer?

If so, that was Casey.

2. ESPNU... -5 for their standard definition TV broadcast. My eyes, my poor eyes!!!!!

3. Wilbekin and Will Y are the 2 best defenders we've ever had in Gainesville. The are so strong, so quick, great hands, fantastic anticipation, non stop hustlers, highly intelligent.....and both are leaders, they bring the other players up to their level with their play.

GatorPlanet
12-05-2012, 11:36 PM
I am becoming more of a fan of how Scottie is progressing.

He's close to becoming a top-drawer point guard. His defensive instincts are uncanny. Between his instincts and hard work and KB's quickness, no one can get a decent perimeter offense going against us.

Look how far off-game Snaer, a McDonalds AA, got knocked tonight. He was completely ineffective in the first half.

tupacbiff
12-05-2012, 11:39 PM
1. Walker did not play in the first half. I think I know the challenged shot you are talking about, was it at the bottom of the screen, left wing, 3 pointer?

If so, that was Casey.

2. ESPNU... -5 for their standard definition TV broadcast. My eyes, my poor eyes!!!!!

3. Wilbekin and Will Y are the 2 best defenders we've ever had in Gainesville. The are so strong, so quick, great hands, fantastic anticipation, non stop hustlers, highly intelligent.....and both are leaders, they bring the other players up to their level with their play.

Walker did play 1st half. Went in for murph with about 54 sex left. Prather had 2 Fouls.

The shot challenge was between 30-50 sec left and was a two from just above the foul line.

2. I had espnu in hd

3. Jham was an excellent on ball defender.

GothamGator
12-06-2012, 12:00 AM
Analysis is good, but the grades almost universally should be much higher. That was just a total ass-kicking.

62-37 before our guys just got bored and stopped trying.

I know FSU is not very good, but that was still a road game against an ACC team.

These Gators are deep, disciplined and focused. Just really impressive.

tommyuf21
12-06-2012, 01:48 AM
He's close to becoming a top-drawer point guard. His defensive instincts are uncanny. Between his instincts and hard work and KB's quickness, no one can get a decent perimeter offense going against us.

Look how far off-game Snaer, a McDonalds AA, got knocked tonight. He was completely ineffective in the first half.

Scottie has impressed me since he shut Hopson down as a true freshman. He's an ideal player, a glue guy and someone I'm really happy to see on our side.

sec1
12-06-2012, 01:54 AM
i thought our O played pretty well , but our D was Great again .... if we keep improving we will be very dangerous in March

tupacbiff
12-06-2012, 05:39 AM
Analysis is good, but the grades almost universally should be much higher. That was just a total ass-kicking.

62-37 before our guys just got bored and stopped trying.

I know FSU is not very good, but that was still a road game against an ACC team.

These Gators are deep, disciplined and focused. Just really impressive.

Obviously disagree about grades being higher. Yes we wuped them but we didn't execute on offense too well and they shot themselves in the foot a lot.

bullish
12-06-2012, 07:56 AM
The Gators looked in control the whole game. We have a lot of ball handlers who are quick and tenacious on defense. FSU felt this as soon as they hit the court.

I don't know if size will hurt us as we play on, but FSU looked taller but it was a total mismatch.

I know we are undefeated and looking good early, I hope we can sustain this aggression the whole year. With so many new guys that can handle the ball, it seems it has re-ignited the passion for winning. Good team chemistry. All in All, Looking Good!

Arizona is going to be a dog fight. It will show both the good and bad with our team. Here's hoping for another Prime time win. Go Gators!

GatorRade
12-06-2012, 08:02 AM
The grades look ok to me. I am not sure about Frazier leading the team again, but my main issue goes back to the last game's grades. Young earned a 6 this week and a 6 last week as I recall. This week, he posted 10-8-1-1-1 in 27 minutes vs. last week, where he posted 10-10-3-2-3 in 22 minutes and was generally the most active player on the court. I really don't see how he could get the same grade for both of these games.

jmoliver
12-06-2012, 08:07 AM
10 days to get better.

rserina
12-06-2012, 08:39 AM
3. Wilbekin and Will Y are the 2 best defenders we've ever had in Gainesville. The are so strong, so quick, great hands, fantastic anticipation, non stop hustlers, highly intelligent.....and both are leaders, they bring the other players up to their level with their play.
Still think Brewer has to be in that discussion during the Donovan era, as well as Horford, Noah, and Hamilton, but they are right up there. What I love is how versatile they are. Both can guard three positions, even four in a pinch.

your_perfect_enemy
12-06-2012, 08:50 AM
I think I have to agree with the grades being about right, while we absolutely kicked their ass we still played somewhat sloppy. Which I think is a really good thing. We're destroying teams but still have a lot of room for improvement, at least offensively.

the refs were a joke in the first half, I literally started laughing at some of the calls. It was like they were trying to out do the refs from the football game, but gave up in the second half when they saw even they couldnt keep fsu in the game