2013 WR James Clark of New Symrna Beach FL. to Ohio State

[UFreak]

I think we need to oversign at the WR position this year. We need to get six guys in here to make sure that we have weapons at that position. We had a significant lack of playmaking talent at the receiver position this year. That is a position where a player can make an immediate impact.
I think James Clark could make an immediate impact.
Hypothetically, if We sign 6 and two of the six are capable of being "playmakers" in 2013, then I think it could be worth two games. In other words, it could be the difference between a 9-win and 11-win season.

[lurkingator1]

recent GC post indicates about 75% chance he signs with the good guys

[GATORAZ]

recent GC post indicates about 75% chance he signs with the good guys

sure it does but he hasnt even made a trip to Clemson yet

[Lawdog88]

As many have noticed, his running is elegant and gazelle-like. Truly a gifted, God-given beautiful stride, with a top-end, "football fast" that seems to be off the charts.

That's what my eyes see.

And brains to boot !

Come on down James. Gator Nation love from all of us.

[wci347]

Clark would be a nice addition. That is undeniable.

[LAGatorDoc]

sure it does but he hasnt even made a trip to Clemson yet

Academics and track are huge for JC, Florida is lightyears better than Clemson for both of these...

[GATORAZ]

Academics and track are huge for JC, Florida is lightyears better than Clemson for both of these...

so is location... but Clemson does have an explosive offense and only 1 WR committed

[gator1986]

so is location... but Clemson does have an explosive offense and only 1 WR committed

Good.... Lol my quote has nothing to talk about this situation, but after listening to Dabo Swinney and seeing how shady him and his coaches are with a high school I just say good... I hope they all de commit then they don't get anything...

[GATORAZ]

Good.... Lol my quote has nothing to talk about this situation, but after listening to Dabo Swinney and seeing how shady him and his coaches are with a high school I just say good... I hope they all de commit then they don't get anything...

Clemson could have an epic close so much is up in the air right now

[UFFL]

Clemson could have an epic close so much is up in the air right now

I sure hope not

[gator1986]

Unfortunately your right, but you never know nowadays...

[BobbyGator72]

How does his speed compare to Chris Thompson. Since he is a local kid, I saw a lot of news hi-lights and he looks like he can really pick em up and put em down?

[gatorich]

Clemson could have an epic close so much is up in the air right now

Clemson has a lot to offer a young man...his coach...his parents..grandparents..aunts and uncles. :wink:

[StrangeGator]

How does his speed compare to Chris Thompson. Since he is a local kid, I saw a lot of news hi-lights and he looks like he can really pick em up and put em down?

Chris is currently one of the two fastest two guys in the class. He and VH3 both run low to mid 4.4. Clark is a true track guy, runs in the mid 10 second range. His burst is instantaneous and he keeps accelerating. Thompson has a nice initial burst and gets pretty good separation, but he doesn't have the jets Clark has.

[Juggernautz]

What's the latest?

[LAGatorDoc]

Right now, I wouldn't trade our WR class for any team in the country. Texas A&M has arguable a better WR class than us right now. If we get Clark, I don't think anyone can argue that our WR class isn't the best in the country. What do you guys think?

[Gatorrick22]

Right now, I wouldn't trade our WR class for any team in the country. Texas A&M has arguable a better WR class than us right now. If we get Clark, I don't think anyone can argue that our WR class isn't the best in the country. What do you guys think?

I have to agree, and if we get Alexander or Ramsey we'll have signed the best secondary in the nation too... IMHO.

[StrangeGator]

I have to agree, and if we get Alexander or Ramsey we'll have signed the best secondary in the nation too... IMHO.

I suspect we already have the best secondary class. Every commit is ranked in the top 100 with at least one of the services.

Our WR class is close to #1 because of sheer numbers, though only Fullwood and Robinson are ranked very high. I think it was important to sign a lot WRs this year whether we got top guys or not. We need competition and a high probability of finding two highly productive players out of five or six.

[Gatorrick22]

I suspect we already have the best secondary class. Every commit is ranked in the top 100 with at least one of the services.

Our WR class is close to #1 because of sheer numbers, though only Fullwood and Robinson are ranked very high. I think it was important to sign a lot WRs this year whether we got top guys or not. We need competition and a high probability of finding two highly productive players out of five or six.

Exactly! We need lots of receivers this year and we're signing them. I can't wait to see Fulwood and Robinson on the field.

[GATORAZ]

Marquez North is no longer considering Clemson. James Clark will now probably be their #1 WR target.

[619_Gator]

Clemson is really striking out at WR since losing Robinson. Kind of surprising.

[Gatorrick22]

Marquez North is no longer considering Clemson. James Clark will now probably be their #1 WR target.

Where does that leave us?

[GATORAZ]

Where does that leave us?

I dont know. Florida only has 3 spots left so you have to wonder how bad they want Clark still. If the staff still wants him Florida gets the last visit which is always a good.

[LAGatorDoc]

I dont know. Florida only has 3 spots left so you have to wonder how bad they want Clark still. If the staff still wants him Florida gets the last visit which is always a good.

I say take the 3 best with 1 +1 kind of guy.

[Gatorrick22]

I dont know. Florida only has 3 spots left so you have to wonder how bad they want Clark still. If the staff still wants him Florida gets the last visit which is always a good.

Hmm.... Interesting development. I'll bet Tajh Boyd staying has something to do with it.

[gymgator]

I thought that North dropped us after his visit in Oct?

[LAGatorDoc]

I thought that North dropped us after his visit in Oct?

North dropped Clemson too

[StrangeGator]

Marquez North is no longer considering Clemson. James Clark will now probably be their #1 WR target.

Clemson makes no sense for Clark. I'm not knocking their academics. They're a great school for B students. My niece went there and had an incredible experience. She loved her classes and was more motivated than she ever was in high school. But Clark sounds like the kind of kid who would be bored in classes anywhere but a top tier school. If he had offers and interest from Stanford, Duke and Northwestern, he has to be a pretty serious scholar.

Given the remaining schools on his list, Northwestern and UF are the best fit for him academically and both offer great opportunities in their football programs. If I was his dad, I'd push him towards Northwestern, mainly because of the opportunities available to him if he doesn't go to the NFL, but partly because he would be the sixth WR in UF's class and the fourth and highest rated WR in Northwestern's class. He'd get on the field immediately.

Going to UF is a gamble, but it's a good one. He would be the fastest WR on the roster once Debose graduates. Along with Fullwood, he would also be one of the two most academically gifted of the receivers. I always give exceptional student athletes a statistical edge finding their way up the depth chart. Most are better disciplined and they are obviously better prepared to learn the intricacies of the game. Look at the history of overachievers in UF football and you will find a lot of Academic All Americans, especially at WR. Truth is, most of the very best receivers in UF history have been excellent students. I believe that Alvarez, Chandler and Collinsworth were all Academic All Americans. There have been many more in recent years.

Again, Clemson seems like a very poor choice, even football wise. They like taller receivers and they are stacked at the position.

Sorry for the long post, but this is a long thread. James Clark deserves a long thread. This would be the first time in many years, possibly since 1994 that we've signed six WRs. The last player you sign at any given position is one of the most important decisions you make, especially when you're already full. You only add when there is a quality player and a quality individual remaining on your board.

So, yea, I'm a James Clark fan. I really hope he doesn't go to Clemson because I will never watch him there. I'd love for him to go to UF because he could add a dimension to our offense that doesn't quite exist. It would be great to watch him succeed, albeit on TV. If he goes to Northwestern, I will go see him and cheer for him. Been looking for an excuse to go up there. And they are starting to become a serious Big 10 competitor, assuming that's not an oxymoron.

[Gatorrick22]

Clemson makes no sense for Clark. I'm not knocking their academics. They're a great school for B students. My niece went there and had an incredible experience. She loved her classes and was more motivated than she ever was in high school. But Clark sounds like the kind of kid who would be bored in classes anywhere but a top tier school. If he had offers and interest from Stanford, Duke and Northwestern, he has to be a pretty serious scholar.

Given the remaining schools on his list, Northwestern and UF are the best fit for him academically and both offer great opportunities in their football programs. If I was his dad, I'd push him towards Northwestern, mainly because of the opportunities available to him if he doesn't go to the NFL, but partly because he would be the sixth WR in UF's class and the fourth and highest rated WR in Northwestern's class. He'd get on the field immediately.

Going to UF is a gamble, but it's a good one. He would be the fastest WR on the roster once Debose graduates. Along with Fullwood, he would also be one of the two most academically gifted of the receivers. I always give exceptional student athletes a statistical edge finding their way up the depth chart. Most are better disciplined and they are obviously better prepared to learn the intricacies of the game. Look at the history of overachievers in UF football and you will find a lot of Academic All Americans, especially at WR. Truth is, most of the very best receivers in UF history have been excellent students. I believe that Alvarez, Chandler and Collinsworth were all Academic All Americans. There have been many more in recent years.

Again, Clemson seems like a very poor choice, even football wise. They like taller receivers and they are stacked at the position.

Sorry for the long post, but this is a long thread. James Clark deserves a long thread. This would be the first time in many years, possibly since 1994 that we've signed six WRs. The last player you sign at any given position is one of the most important decisions you make, especially when you're already full. You only add when there is a quality player and a quality individual remaining on your board.

So, yea, I'm a James Clark fan. I really hope he doesn't go to Clemson because I will never watch him there. I'd love for him to go to UF because he could add a dimension to our offense that doesn't quite exist. It would be great to watch him succeed, albeit on TV. If he goes to Northwestern, I will go see him and cheer for him. Been looking for an excuse to go up there. And they are starting to become a serious Big 10 competitor, assuming that's not an oxymoron.

Excellent points of fact.

[GATORAZ]

StrangeGator you don't have to convince me lol but solid post.

[Tebowism0823]

Clemson is really striking out at WR since losing Robinson. Kind of surprising.

Their credit line is maxed!

[LAGatorDoc]

StrangeGator you don't have to convince me lol but solid post.

AZ who are your 3 (and you can add a +1) recruits currently that you think can join the club and make an impact knowing this staffs tendencies?
Mine are Daniel, Bostwick, Ramsey and +1 Adams. If we miss on +1 Adams, I think Jones, then Clark, then Collins may become the plus one.
I don't think there is room for Clark or Collins as non +1 players

[StrangeGator]

AZ who are your 3 (and you can add a +1) recruits currently that you think can join the club and make an impact knowing this staffs tendencies?
Mine are Daniel, Bostwick, Ramsey and +1 Adams. If we miss on +1 Adams, I think Jones, then Clark, then Collins may become the plus one.
I don't think there is room for Clark or Collins as non +1 players

Not AZ, but good questions and while AZ enjoys dinner with his family I'll try to answer them. I think Daniel and Jones are virtually tied, though we probably have more chance with Daniel since we got on Jones late, but Young has been on Daniel since last winter. I don't think we get Bostwick unless Adams says no, so it's not a likely plus one scenario, it's one or the other. I think Collins has become a long shot, though I'd love to see him on board. Clark is more likely, but he knows what he's worth and he's taking a much more intelligent approach to this process than most. There are more guys out there than the ones you listed. Look for more surprises, like today. Don't even try to predict them. Just enjoy it when it happens.

[Lawdog88]

James, if you are reading, GatorNation wants you at UF.

Your football career and academic accomplishments will shine in Gainesville.

There is no comparison between the competing coaches, either.

[Gatorrick22]

James, if you are reading, GatorNation wants you at UF.

Your football career and academic accomplishments will shine in Gainesville.

There is no comparison between the competing coaches, either.

+1

[gator1986]

+1

Gattorick when you say +1 what do you mean exactly? Lol sounds like a dumb question but JW still trying to catch up on all the jargon..

[Gatorrick22]

Gattorick when you say +1 what do you mean exactly? Lol sounds like a dumb question but JW still trying to catch up on all the jargon..

+1 means that I agree with the post above it. Why? What does it mean to you?

[gator1986]

+1 means that I agree with the post above it. Why? What does it mean to you?

Well it means that now lol I didn't know what it meant exactly just seen everyone using that term that's all

[gatorcal]

+1 means that I agree with the post above it. Why? What does it mean to you?

It means that you are requesting to be his date to the next wedding he attends.

[Gatorrick22]

It means that you are requesting to be his date to the next wedding he attends.

:huh:


How old are you?

[gatorcal]

Lighten up Francis, it's a joke.

[Gatorrick22]

Lighten up Francis, it's a joke.

Yes you are.

[gatorcal]

Yes you are.

Ah, the always popular Internet tough-guy. Didn't realize that's who I was dealing with. I promise I will not make any more jokes in response to your posts and we can leave it at that.

[Gatorrick22]

Ah, the always popular Internet tough-guy.

You do know the difference between an insult and a "joke" don't you little guy?

I suggest you just move along (leave me the f@&#! alone), and stop with the insults that have no punch-line.

[ncorangeblue]

Can you guys take the foreplay to PM?

[Tebowism0823]

Yes you are.

I thought your name was Rick. It's been Francis this whole time :)

[g8r925]

Man I was looking for some news on Clark and I find an argument about what someone's name is. So does anyone have any news on the Clark.

[gator1986]

Man I was looking for some news on Clark and I find an argument about what someone's name is. So does anyone have any news on the Clark.

Hahaha!

[Minister_of_Information]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2wn3689.jpg

[Speedofsand]

http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/c/0/0/13d/f/AAAADH4cNkQAAAAAAT3xxA.jpg?v=1301319124000

[demosthenes]

You do know the difference between an insult and a "joke" don't you little guy?

I suggest you just move along (leave me the f@&#! alone), and stop with the insults that have no punch-line.

Nice to meet you, Francis.

[Tebowism0823]

Man I was looking for some news on Clark and I find an argument about what someone's name is. So does anyone have any news on the Clark.

As AZ has mentioned we get his last visit. Normally that's an excellent thing, but with the recent deflections from Clemson, and now Hopkins leaving, some might give the edge to Clemson. However, he likes UF and I believe he's the last commit for us for what might be the best WR class we've had in a long time if not ever imo. I'd be surprised if he isn't a Gator in the end. Muschamp and company are definitely showing their closing skills.

My guess is 65/35 good guys right now. The visit should seal the deal.

[Gatorrick22]

I thought your name was Rick. It's been Francis this whole time :)

Don't feed the trolls. :grin:

So do you think we land James Clark, or is he Gator Bait?

[Tebowism0823]

Don't feed the trolls. :grin:

So do you think we land James Clark, or is he Gator Bait?

I believe we land him.

[Gatorrick22]

I believe we land him.

I hope you're right. I think he's a very talented kid, with speed to burn.

[Tebowism0823]

I hope you're right. I think he's a very talented kid, with speed to burn.

I think the other receivers in this class will help. Some may think it'll work against us because of playing time but this kids a baller and competition will not scare him. He sees that the coaches are bringing in the talent and I believe he wants to be a part of that.

[DieAGator]

I believe we land him.

Six WRs, three "elite"? Seems like we'll lose one but probably not either of Bailey, Fullwood, Robinson. If the staff can do it, so be it.

[Gatorrick22]

Six WRs, three "elite"? Seems like we'll lose one but probably not either of Bailey, Fullwood, Robinson. If the staff can do it, so be it.

There's always attrition and injuries that gives us dire need for that many players...... This year in particular, since we need to re-boot 'almost' our entire receiving corp.

[Tebowism0823]

Six WRs, three "elite"? Seems like we'll lose one but probably not either of Bailey, Fullwood, Robinson. If the staff can do it, so be it.

Normally id agree but their selling point is the way our offense has looked the last two years. The guys we are bringing in do not shy from competition. We want to throw the ball but we need receivers to get open and a line to block. Muschamp and company are fixing both of those issues.

[Notoriousgator]

I still firmly believe Alvin Bailey is going to be terriffic for us. He looked extremely good in The Opening....caught everything. He was qucik, elusive and has some great tools. I would've been disappointed if we didn't get him.

[Juggernautz]

I think ALL of our WR recruits will be really good or better....

[GATORAZ]

James Clark ‏@GotEmCoach2
Just Got Off The Phone With Ohio State...Hmmmmm

[gator1986]

James Clark ‏@GotEmCoach2
Just Got Off The Phone With Ohio State...Hmmmmm

Well that sucks!

[GATORAZ]

Well that sucks!

only way he could visit tOSU is if he cancelled the Florida official so hopefully he never steps foot in columbus

[gator1986]

only way he could visit tOSU is if he cancelled the Florida official so hopefully he never steps foot in columbus

Yea because unfortunately Meyer can sell just as good as anyone! Hopefully he sees that the numbers are limited for this class and he jumps aboard quick!

[kellgator]

Yea because unfortunately Meyer can sell just as good as anyone! Hopefully he sees that the numbers are limited for this class and he jumps aboard quick!

Does Meyer just wait and see who Muschamp is after and then give them a call?

[gator1986]

Does Meyer just wait and see who Muschamp is after and then give them a call?

I actually was just thinking the same thing!!

[LAGatorDoc]

only way he could visit tOSU is if he cancelled the Florida official so hopefully he never steps foot in columbus

May also cancel Clemson visit instead. Makes sense (better academics and other things at Ohio State over Clemson)

[The_Graygator]

Don't feed the trolls. :grin:

So do you think we land James Clark, or is he Gator Bait?

Personally, as much as I'd love to have this talented kid at UF, I think us having 5 WR's will cause him to go somewhere else, not unless he thinks he could be a big ST's guy at UF.

[GATORAZ]

May also cancel Clemson visit instead. Makes sense (better academics and other things at Ohio State over Clemson)

He could but he will probably still take his visit to Clemson.

[gator1986]

He could but he will probably still take his visit to Clemson.

So his last visits are to who again? I'm getting lost in all the convo...

[themistocles]

With a need for a FB, a TE and more DLine players in this group, I just can't see offering another WR/KR who is not a +1 a scholarship when only 3 are left to offer.

[GATORAZ]

So his last visits are to who again? I'm getting lost in all the convo...

as of right ow his last visit is to Florida it is an official.

[GATORAZ]

With a need for a FB, a TE and more DLine players in this group, I just can't see offering another WR/KR who is not a +1 a scholarship when only 3 are left to offer.

I have a feeling we will add 4 to 5 more players no inside info though

[UFFL]

I have a feeling we will add 4 to 5 more players no inside info though

Do we tell some kids to transfer then?

[GATORAZ]

Do we tell some kids to transfer then?

no it just happens on its own

[UFFL]

no it just happens on its own

Who would be most likely to do so?

[GATORAZ]

Who would be most likely to do so?

Somebody could graduates and just decided to not play football anymore (dont want to say a name). We could have a decommit. We could have somebody take medical hardship. Also some people could decided to leave if they dont win a job in spring especially at the safety position. We can add 5 more people to this class per the 25 rule which means we would be 2 over the 85 limit. In the end the numbers always work out by the time fall camp starts.

[UFFL]

Somebody could graduates and just decided to not play football anymore (dont want to say a name). We could have a decommit. We could have somebody take medical hardship. Also some people could decided to leave if they dont win a job in spring especially at the safety position. We can add 5 more people to this class per the 25 rule which means we would be 2 over the 85 limit. In the end the numbers always work out by the time fall camp starts.

When do numbers have to be finalized? At safety, we'll have Gorman/Showers/Ledbetter/Maye, and possibly Watkins I guess. I guess Showers has seen the least playing time, but he did get put in when Josh Evans was hurt. The staff trusts him. I hope we keep all of our DB's

[GATORAZ]

When do numbers have to be finalized? At safety, we'll have Gorman/Showers/Ledbetter/Maye, and possibly Watkins I guess. I guess Showers has seen the least playing time, but he did get put in when Josh Evans was hurt. The staff trusts him. I hope we keep all of our DB's


I am not sure about the numbers tbh. I think its you cant have over 85 kids on scholarship at one time. They usually announce what walkons get scholarships at the end of fall camp.

[HOF2006]

tomis,
It was Greg Madison, the DL coach, the convienced Urban Liar to sign Brandon James. He really had to work on him too! Finally got it done.

Also to the other poster that said he thought there were 2 James Clark's in this years seniors. There are 2. One is very average. The one we are on is a player 4**** and is an excellent student. Believe he has offers from Oklahoma or Nebraska, Vandy several others including a good Big-10 team.

[rserina]

tomis,
It was Greg Madison, the DL coach, the convienced Urban Liar to sign Brandon James. He really had to work on him too! Finally got it done.
Oh, yeah. Greg Madison. I forgot. Who was he again? Any relation to Billy Madison?

[Nicho]

Oh, yeah. Greg Madison. I forgot. Who was he again? Any relation to Billy Madison?

Nope. No relation to former OC Steve Attazio either.

[HOF2006]

it was Greg Mattison! Richardson & James were step brothers ( same Dad I think) and lived in different households growing up.

[Bryan85]

The 85 number is not counted until the week of the 1st Fall practice. There will be more attrition, usually right after Spring Practice ends. Usually a player has a better look at the depth chart at his position and if a player or 2 is ahead yet is younger in terms of eligibility..... then he realizes he won't play and......"get's his hat."

[Notoriousgator]

it was Greg Mattison! Richardson & James were step brothers ( same Dad I think) and lived in different households growing up.

Both Brandon and Jacques are doing well these days. I'm glad Jacques has seemed to turn it around.

[GATORAZ]

Brandon James just got fired but the whole situation was weird

[GATORAZ]

IMO (which doesnt count for much) the staff should take 4 players before NSD. Leave the last scholarship for Adams. If Admas picks Georgia or Clemson dont use it unless there is a great under the radar prospect.

[UFFL]

IMO (which doesnt count for much) the staff should take 4 players before NSD. Leave the last scholarship for Adams. If Admas picks Georgia or Clemson dont use it unless there is a great under the radar prospect.

If we bulk up on recruits this year, how many recruits could we take the next year? Watkins, Harrison, Halapio, Easley, Patton, Jacobs, R. Powell, Kitchens, T. Burton, Debose. Those are the only kids that I can think of who will be gone after the 2013 season. No NFL draft entrees besides R. Powell (maybe Marcus Roberson). What do you think?

[Minister_of_Information]

Brandon James just got fired but the whole situation was weird

What happened

[gator1986]

as of right ow his last visit is to Florida it is an official.

So there's a good chance then... Lets hope it doesn't get cancelled..

[GATORAZ]

good news Joker is visiting him tomorrow bad news so is Clemson

[Juggernautz]

Wouldn't be ironic if JC decides in the favor of the ACC Tiggers?

I hope he has better sense than that.

[GATORAZ]

This is one of those times the football staff needs to use another Gator coaching staff. CWM needs to call Mike Holloway to help get James.

[StrangeGator]

It's got to be the Gators or the Wildcats. The kid has made a serious mistake if he strays from those two choices. Clemson and Nebraska are both way below him.

[GATORAZ]

It's got to be the Gators or the Wildcats. The kid has made a serious mistake if he strays from those two choices. Clemson and Nebraska are both way below him.
When is the last time a kid chose a football scholarship to Northwestern over Clemson?

[Tebowism0823]

When is the last time a kid chose a football scholarship to Northwestern over Clemson?

I believe his point was referring to academics.

[GATORDONE]

I'd say the kid has a 4.0..... I think he has the abilities to make an educated guess. He'll go where he feels comfortable. Wherever he goes it won't be a "mistake". Wish this kid the best in his decision

[GATORAZ]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/recruiting/os-james-clark-nebraska-visit-ohio-state-next-florida-upcoming-20130113,0,778855.post

[gator1986]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/recruiting/os-james-clark-nebraska-visit-ohio-state-next-florida-upcoming-20130113,0,778855.post

Not much to take off that except he is most definitely interested in Ohio St... Great, urban must have a spy on Champ and Co, and whoever they want he wants... It's kind of annoying...

[GATORAZ]

Not much to take off that except he is most definitely interested in Ohio St... Great, urban must have a spy on Champ and Co, and whoever they want he wants... It's kind of annoying...

lol at Urban spying on CWM. You realize this kid has gotten a ton of attention since his highlight tape was put out?

[gator1986]

lol at Urban spying on CWM. You realize this kid has gotten a ton of attention since his highlight tape was put out?

Yes I was being facetious, just every story that comes out about Champ going after a recruit, about 20 minutes later you hear about Meyer calling that exact kid.. I had a gut feeling this kid was going to explode into the scene...

[Lawdog88]

Only the Coach Up Nawth can coach up Percy-type talent. :laugh:

[StrangeGator]

When is the last time a kid chose a football scholarship to Northwestern over Clemson?

Probably never, but Clark started off looking primarily at the schools that fit him best academically because the big programs hadn't seen his senior year stats or highlights. Clemson is a big drop off academically from his original list, which included Duke and Stanford. Now he wants to play big time football but I think academics will still be a consideration. To be fair, UF is closer to Clemson than NW academically, but there's no reason to drop off that far to play at a big time football program.

[GATORAZ]

Probably never, but Clark started off looking primarily at the schools that fit him best academically because the big programs hadn't seen his senior year stats or highlights. Clemson is a big drop off academically from his original list, which included Duke and Stanford. Now he wants to play big time football but I think academics will still be a consideration. To be fair, UF is closer to Clemson than NW academically, but there's no reason to drop off that far to play at a big time football program.
I will believe they will be considered when I see it. Right now I am afraid he might decided to take officials to tOSU and Clemson instead of Florida. He can just take another unofficial to Florida.

[thedyc09]

Robinson, Fulwood, and Hawkins are the tall(-ish) stud type receivers.

Bailey is obviously a slot guy.

What is Chris Thompson's role going to be and how does he compare to Clark? They're the two I know least about.

[GATORAZ]

Robinson, Fulwood, and Hawkins are the tall(-ish) stud type receivers.

Bailey is obviously a slot guy.

What is Chris Thompson's role going to be and how does he compare to Clark? They're the two I know least about.

Thompson's role will be to go deep.

Clark's role would be what Patton/Hines did this year, jet sweeps screens and going deep.

[Dreamliner]

Thompson's role will be to go deep.

Clark's role would be what Patton/Hines did this year, jet sweeps screens and going deep.

Okay, so if we don't land Clark, my default response is going to be that we already have a Clark (Patton).

[StrangeGator]

Okay, so if we don't land Clark, my default response is going to be that we already have a Clark (Patton).

Yes, but not for very long. Clark is taller. I suspect he runs better routes and has better hands. Most of all, Clark is fast. He's one of those rare guys whose 40 time and adjusted GPA are almost identical.

[GATORAZ]

James is a 10.80 100 runner

http://www.athletic.net/TrackandField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2247588

[LAGatorDoc]

James is a 10.80 100 runner

http://www.athletic.net/TrackandField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2247588

For comparison, Jeff Demps was a 10.3-10.4 sec guy (one race was 11.23 sec) his freshman year of college, and his senior year was a 10 flat to 10.2 sec guy. His best run in college was a 9.96 sec run in his junior year.

So Clark is definitely plenty fast.:yes:

[Lawdog88]

James !

Come on Down !

[StrangeGator]

For comparison, Jeff Demps was a 10.3-10.4 sec guy (one race was 11.23 sec) his freshman year of college, and his senior year was a 10 flat to 10.2 sec guy. His best run in college was a 9.96 sec run in his junior year.

So Clark is definitely plenty fast.:yes:

Followed the link and I saw a 10.43 time for Clark last season. That's world class time for a high school junior.

[revthejedi]

If I were him I'd probably go to OSU, but I sure hope Joker convinces him to come to UF.

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[gator1986]

If I were him I'd probably go to OSU, but I sure hope Joker convinces him to come to UF.

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Why the hell would you go there? Lol

[revthejedi]

Why the hell would you go there? Lol

Well, Florida has a 5 other capable WRs this class for starters. Also, I think a guy like Clark could prosper in a spread offense with Miller at QB. There's no one in the B1G that'll be able to catch him.

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[Gatorrick22]

Well, Florida has a 5 other capable WRs this class for starters. Also, I think a guy like Clark could prosper in a spread offense with Miller at QB. There's no one in the B1G that'll be able to catch him.

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We're not here to promote other teams. I hope we land him.... and screw OSU.

[gator1986]

We're not here to promote other teams. I hope we land him.... and screw OSU.

Nice!

[revthejedi]

No one is promoting another team, give me a break.

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[Tebowism0823]

We're not here to promote other teams. I hope we land him.... and screw OSU.

Right....the hell with some other team. Who cares how many other guys we have, James will see the field.

[Tebowism0823]

No one is promoting another team, give me a break.

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No but the tOSU Pom Poms are a bit much :)

[StrangeGator]

If I were him I'd probably go to OSU, but I sure hope Joker convinces him to come to UF.

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I'd put OSU in front of Clemson, but if I was going to recommend a school other than UF, it would be Northwestern. He'd get on the field in no time. If he ended up getting injured or turns out to be a bust, he still gets to walk away with a degree from Northwestern.

[Gatorrick22]

I'd put OSU in front of Clemson, but if I was going to recommend a school other than UF, it would be Northwestern. He'd get on the field in no time. If he ended up getting injured or turns out to be a bust, he still gets to walk away with a degree from Northwestern.

But, if Clark wants the best of both worlds, academics and athletics, he should come to Florida and be a student athlete here.

[elrongator]

No one is promoting another team, give me a break.

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Then really, why mention them at all? Do you even understand that making a statement that a player would be better off somewhere else is, in fact, promoting the other team? For Pete's sake...that seems pretty obvious to me.

I also couldn't disagree more with your analysis of the situation. Meyer ran the ball to the nearly exclusive benefit of only one receiver his entire time in Gainesville. That receiver was, of course, Percy Harvin. Harvin was great in Meyer's offense because he was big enough and physical enough to handle the hits he took running jet sweeps, bubble screens, and short dump offs. Even then he spent alot of time recovering from injuries because Meyer doesn't spread the ball around to lots of players in his "spread" offense which has a tendency to get his star favorite player hurt alot.

His offense is also so run heavy we are just now recovering from the drought of top receivers totally avoiding our team for fear they'd have no real ability to shine as play makers.

Add to these facts that we have really no proven wide receivers and coming in as a speed guy like Clark would give him a chance to find plays that would suit him over all our other current commits.

We had no...I repeat...NO real special teams guy stand out this year either. That means the potential to establish himself as the next Brandon James/Jeff Demps on kick returns in his freshman year.

Seems to me like Florida is a perfect fit.
Now for the icing on the cake, we are Florida and Ohio State is a cold gray skied, rust belt dump. Our coach is young, energetic, and on the rise. Their coach is a lying head case who could drop from a bad ticker, quit because a better job popped up, or just turn everything over to his crappy offensive line coach because he has acid reflux after pizza one night. Why the hell would anybody choose that over Florida?

[revthejedi]

No but the tOSU Pom Poms are a bit much :)

In the recruiting forum we often discuss why or why not a recruit would come to UF or other schools, which is all I was doing. IMO UF is not always the best option for every recruit, despite how bad we want it to be. I didn't think acknowledging this fact would be so controversial. If you listen to Clark discuss his talk with UM, you get the idea that it's a place where he could see himself going and there's a reason why. Regardless, I've said numerous times that I'd love to see Clark in orange and blue so get over it.

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[revthejedi]

Then really, why mention them at all? Do you even understand that making a statement that a player would be better off somewhere else is, in fact, promoting the other team? For Pete's sake...that seems pretty obvious to me.

I also couldn't disagree more with your analysis of the situation. Meyer ran the ball to the nearly exclusive benefit of only one receiver his entire time in Gainesville. That receiver was, of course, Percy Harvin. Harvin was great in Meyer's offense because he was big enough and physical enough to handle the hits he took running jet sweeps, bubble screens, and short dump offs. Even then he spent alot of time recovering from injuries because Meyer doesn't spread the ball around to lots of players in his "spread" offense which has a tendency to get his star favorite player hurt alot.

His offense is also so run heavy we are just now recovering from the drought of top receivers totally avoiding our team for fear they'd have no real ability to shine as play makers.

Add to these facts that we have really no proven wide receivers and coming in as a speed guy like Clark would give him a chance to find plays that would suit him over all our other current commits.

We had no...I repeat...NO real special teams guy stand out this year either. That means the potential to establish himself as the next Brandon James/Jeff Demps on kick returns in his freshman year.

Seems to me like Florida is a perfect fit.
Now for the icing on the cake, we are Florida and Ohio State is a cold gray skied, rust belt dump. Our coach is young, energetic, and on the rise. Their coach is a lying head case who could drop from a bad ticker, quit because a better job popped up, or just turn everything over to his crappy offensive line coach because he has acid reflux after pizza one night. Why the hell would anybody choose that over Florida?

So am I supposed to defend OSU and UM now? I mentioned OSU because they are legit threat to land him and therefore our competition for his services. I never made any negative comments about UF, but we are on the verge of having an embarrassment of riches at WR this class. I'm sure JC never considered that and my words will steer him to Columbus. Please.

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[Tebowism0823]

In the recruiting forum we often discuss why or why not a recruit would come to UF or other schools, which is all I was doing. IMO UF is not always the best option for every recruit, despite how bad we want it to be. I didn't think acknowledging this fact would be so controversial. If you listen to Clark discuss his talk with UM, you get the idea that it's a place where he could see himself going and there's a reason why. Regardless, I've said numerous times that I'd love to see Clark in orange and blue so get over it.

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Really? I find it funny that out of all the posts directed at you, you pick the one intended as a joke to get your feelings hurt over. Must be the time of the month.

Also when you start trying to educate someone about what's being discussed on a forum, it'd help if you actually took place in the forum.

[Tebowism0823]

So am I supposed to defend OSU and UM now? I mentioned OSU because they are legit threat to land him and therefore our competition for his services. I never made any negative comments about UF, but we are on the verge of having an embarrassment of riches at WR this class. I'm sure JC never considered that and my words will steer him to Columbus. Please.

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Saying another team would be the better fit for a need position doesn't sound like the smartest thing to say. You say we're fixing to have an embarrassment of riches but they haven't even stepped on the field yet. Id say 1 more wouldn't hurt.

[revthejedi]

Your post was the most recent at the time of my response, so I'm not sure what you are trying to hint at but I also don't care. The same can be said for the rest of your comments.

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[Tebowism0823]

Your post was the most recent at the time of my response, so I'm not sure what you are trying to hint at but I also don't care. The same can be said for the rest of your comments.

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That's what I thought your next post would be when shown to be wrong. Explains the history or lack thereof.

[revthejedi]

Shown to be wrong? Get over yourself. Is that a knock at my posting history? Gee you guys are too much.

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[Tebowism0823]

Shown to be wrong? Get over yourself. Is that a knock at my posting history? Gee you guys are too much.

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You should expect to be questioned when you make a comment like you did. Then you get your feelings hurt over a joke which is where you started trying to educate me about what goes on in this forum. That's where the post count reference came to play. You started the game and I joined ya. This is the wrong place to be ultra sensitive. I'd probably learn to take a joke or just keep reading instead of posting.

[GATORAZ]

I dont know what is going on in this thread but here is the latest news on Clark.


Clark is scheduled to go to Clemson this weekend but Ohio State is trying to get that visit instead. Both schools will have a visit with Clark tonight to give Clark their sales pitch.

Wherever he goes Clark plans on taking the official by himself. Clemson will try an convince him to bring a family member. This is a pretty big deal IMO. I would assume Clark has been visiting all these schools by himself while Florida will probably get him to bring a family member since he lives only 2 and a half hours away from Gainesville.

Joker also had a visit with Clark today.

[revthejedi]

You should expect to be questioned when you make a comment like you did. Then you get your feelings hurt over a joke which is where you started trying to educate me about what goes on in this forum. That's where the post count reference came to play. You started the game and I joined ya. This is the wrong place to be ultra sensitive. I'd probably learn to take a joke or just keep reading instead of posting.

You give yourself way too much credit, I assure you my feelings are intact. I am not interested in "educating" anyone, if you believe that the types of discussion I outlined does not occur in this forum then I am quite positive that there is nothing that I can do for you. Having said that, it's obvious you won the "game" and I must go back to lurking.

:laugh:

[Tebowism0823]

I believe Joker closes the deal and the proximity to home helps play a factor as well in the end.

[Tebowism0823]

You give yourself way too much credit, I assure you my feelings are intact. I am not interested in "educating" anyone, if you believe that the types of discussion I outlined does not occur in this forum then I am quite positive that there is nothing that I can do for you. Having said that, it's obvious you won the "game" and I must go back to lurking.

:laugh:

We'd appreciate that. There's too many victims here already.

[DieAGator]

Shown to be wrong? Get over yourself. Is that a knock at my posting history? Gee you guys are too much.



Agree. I believe you're a Gator. If you are a rival so wrapped in us that you're posing and posting for years as one of us it would be quite the compliment, more so than if you actually are a Gator. So don't worry much about what people who come across as full of themselves say, it's a win for the Gator nation either way. :yes:

[UFreak]

I want Clark so bad. I LOVE his film. LOVE

[revthejedi]

We'd appreciate that. There's too many victims here already.

Sure thing, Champ.

[LAGatorDoc]

I dont know what is going on in this thread but here is the latest news on Clark.


Clark is scheduled to go to Clemson this weekend but Ohio State is trying to get that visit instead. Both schools will have a visit with Clark tonight to give Clark their sales pitch.

Wherever he goes Clark plans on taking the official by himself. Clemson will try an convince him to bring a family member. This is a pretty big deal IMO. I would assume Clark has been visiting all these schools by himself while Florida will probably get him to bring a family member since he lives only 2 and a half hours away from Gainesville.

Joker also had a visit with Clark today.

Awesome news!!! I'd actually rather him go to Clemson alone over Ohio St alone. I think one fact we aren't mentioning (much) in his decision is the fact that he is a Gator fan, and that probably is weighing on his decision as well... Can't say that anyone grew up being a Northwestern fan, except maybe Strange. He definitely has an odd magnetism to that program...:joecool:

[Tebowism0823]

Awesome news!!! I'd actually rather him go to Clemson alone over Ohio St alone. I think one fact we aren't mentioning (much) in his decision is the fact that he is a Gator fan, and that probably is weighing on his decision as well... Can't say that anyone grew up being a Northwestern fan, except maybe Strange. He definitely has an odd magnetism to that program...:joecool:

No....we haven't had much luck lately with the so called Gator fans.

[GATORAZ]

Awesome news!!! I'd actually rather him go to Clemson alone over Ohio St alone. I think one fact we aren't mentioning (much) in his decision is the fact that he is a Gator fan, and that probably is weighing on his decision as well... Can't say that anyone grew up being a Northwestern fan, except maybe Strange. He definitely has an odd magnetism to that program...:joecool:

I am not sure which one I would rather him go to but I hope he sticks with his official here on the 25th. I also hope Joker convinces him to bring a lot of family members.

[revthejedi]

Agree. I believe you're a Gator. If you are a rival so wrapped in us that you're posing and posting for years as one of us it would be quite the compliment, more so than if you actually are a Gator. So don't worry much about what people who come across as full of themselves say, it's a win for the Gator nation either way. :yes:

I don't really know what to say, I didn't think rival posters acting as some type of subterfuge was such a big deal on the boards. I am not interested in proving to anyone where my college football allegiances lie, I love the Gators, if I didn't I wouldn't be here. That doesn't mean I believe each targeted recruit feels the same way. Sorry to deny you the most grandiose of compliments.

[Tebowism0823]

Agree. I believe you're a Gator. If you are a rival so wrapped in us that you're posing and posting for years as one of us it would be quite the compliment, more so than if you actually are a Gator. So don't worry much about what people who come across as full of themselves say, it's a win for the Gator nation either way. :yes:

Typical response from you. Heaven forbid you actually read the thread leading up to the comments.

[Tebowism0823]

I don't really know what to say, I didn't think rival posters acting as some type of subterfuge was such a big deal on the boards. I am not interested in proving to anyone where my college football allegiances lie, I love the Gators, if I didn't I wouldn't be here. That doesn't mean I believe each targeted recruit feels the same way. Sorry to deny you the most grandiose of compliments.

Nobody asked you to prove shit. We only questioned your comment. You took offense. End of story.

[GATORAZ]

what a ridiculous argument

[UFreak]

I'll tell you what else is ridiculous, James Clark's speed and play-making ability.
Trying to get this thread back on a meaningful track.

[GATORAZ]

Clark is scheduled to go to Clemson this weekend but Ohio State is trying to get that visit instead. Both schools will have a visit with Clark tonight to give Clark their sales pitch.

Wherever he goes Clark plans on taking the official by himself. Clemson will try an convince him to bring a family member. This is a pretty big deal IMO. I would assume Clark has been visiting all these schools by himself while Florida will probably get him to bring a family member since he lives only 2 and a half hours away from Gainesville.

Joker also had a visit with Clark today.

[revthejedi]

Nobody asked you to prove shit. We only questioned your comment. You took offense. End of story.

If you swap “You took offense." with “You found it humorous." I'd have to agree.

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[fox]

I heard Joker had a visit today.

[UFreak]

I heard Joker had a visit today.

Anyone know how that visit went?

[Tebowism0823]

If you swap “You took offense." with “You found it humorous." I'd have to agree.

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lol....whatever makes you feel better bro!

[gator1986]

You give yourself way too much credit, I assure you my feelings are intact. I am not interested in "educating" anyone, if you believe that the types of discussion I outlined does not occur in this forum then I am quite positive that there is nothing that I can do for you. Having said that, it's obvious you won the "game" and I must go back to lurking.

:laugh:

Lurking is more fun anyways...

[DieAGator]

revthejedi,

Keep posting, don't be led to feel unwelcome. If you're a Gator fan it's as much your board as anyone's regardless of their opinion of yours.

[gator1986]

revthejedi,

Keep posting, don't be led to feel unwelcome. If you're a Gator fan it's as much your board as anyone's regardless of their opinion of yours.

True that.... But lurking is still fun, straight creep doggin...

[StrangeGator]

But, if Clark wants the best of both worlds, academics and athletics, he should come to Florida and be a student athlete here.

Football; UF was 9th in the final poll. Northwestern 17th.
Academically, UF is 54th and Northwestern 11th.

He would be the third WR in NW's class, the sixth in UF's class.

[UFreak]

Football; UF was 9th in the final poll. Northwestern 17th.
Academically, UF is 54th and Northwestern 11th.

He would be the third WR in NW's class, the sixth in UF's class.

Academic rankings take into account many more schools than does the final AP poll which only takes into account the schools who participate in the FBS. Also, UF being in the top 10 is not an anomaly. Northwestern in the top 20 is more out of the ordinary.

But I see where you're coming from.

[bantab]

Only the Coach Up Nawth can coach up Percy-type talent. :laugh:

I thought we had settled on calling him the Coach Up North There?

[GATORAZ]

Good news Clark will decided tomorrow if he is going to Clemson or Ohio State this weekend but sounds like he is keeping the Florida official on the 25th.

[Tebowism0823]

Very good news.

[GATORAZ]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50f4bd72/turbine/os-james-clark-wr-new-smyrna-beach-photo-20130114/600

[Allanon]

I thought we had settled on calling him the Coach Up North There?

The coach up yonder way?

[g8r925]

The Coach With Spasms. TCWS

[elrongator]

So am I supposed to defend OSU and UM now?
No, but you could admit that if you are really a Gator fan with an interest in recruiting that it's pretty obvious why it would be considered dumb to state that OSU is the better place for a guy our coaches are interested in.
I laid out a laundry list of why I disagree in any case.
I'd be just as happy to have you get angry from the legit criticism and never come back if you are as dense as all that.
You also have less than 100 posts many of which are now from this thread. It doesn't give much difference between you and a-hole lurker/trolls from other fan bases that come in and try to put subtle anti-Florida crap on our boards.

Saw absolutely nothing by you to support that OSU is better for Clark.
I assume it is because you realized I was right and that UF is better after all.

[elrongator]

Great news on Clark keeping his Gator visit. Also glad Joker saw him today.
Hopefully he just cancels his visit to our lying ex coach's new school.

[revthejedi]

No, but you could admit that if you are really a Gator fan with an interest in recruiting that it's pretty obvious why it would be considered dumb to state that OSU is the better place for a guy our coaches are interested in.
I laid out a laundry list of why I disagree in any case.
I'd be just as happy to have you get angry from the legit criticism and never come back if you are as dense as all that.
You also have less than 100 posts many of which are now from this thread. It doesn't give much difference between you and a-hole lurker/trolls from other fan bases that come in and try to put subtle anti-Florida crap on our boards.

Saw absolutely nothing by you to support that OSU is better for Clark.
I assume it is because you realized I was right and that UF is better after all.

I have no desire to create an itemized list of reasons why in Clark's case, he might feel OSU is better for him than UF. I stand by the comments that I made, and I'll be mighty impressed if the staff can land him considering the WR talent they've collected this class. Every kid you want is not going to come, even if it makes sense from our perspective and it's not always a bad decision on their part (Diggs and Agholor come to mind). I hardly classify your or others criticisms as "legit" and while I'm probably that dense, I'm hardly angry enough to leave a forum I've enjoyed for years. So you're going to have to deal with it or block me (take your pick). I'm not going to touch comments about my post count, because I'm not a child.

[Juggernautz]

I believe Joker closes the deal and the proximity to home helps play a factor as well in the end.

Hope you're right.

[GATORAZ]

revthejedi you are fine keep posting its not that big of a deal I dont know why people are trying to e bully you on something like this but please just drop the issue in this thread

[elrongator]

AZ,
I respect and like your posts, but I don't like low post count lurkers who use every post they can to recruit against the Gators even if its subtle. For example repeating over and over that we have so many WR commits.
Well no duh!! It's because we need them this year desperately.
Clark has a skill set that's quite different from all that are currently committed too.

I just don't like seeing it here.
And F Ohio State. That's Meyer's team and he screwed us royally in how he stayed on then left. Can't imagine anyone saying any recruit we are after would fit better there then being suprised people call them out for it.
Seems pretty clear to me.

[revthejedi]

I'm not going to go into what's wrong with that post. Consider the issue dropped on my end.

[elrongator]

That's probably a wise decision since I still have no idea where you get any support arguing it would be better for James Clark to commit to OSU rather than the Gators. The only reason I even posted about you to begin with.

[Gatorrick22]

Here's an interesting tidbit on Clark. 10.4 in the 100-meters?


New Florida wide receivers coach Joker Phillips has been courting New Smyrna Beach star James Clark quite heavily since he arrived in Gainesville last month. Phillips was visiting the 5-foot-11, 170-pound receiver again Monday night and Clark said he enjoyed his visit.

"In-home visit with Coach Phillips from Florida went well today," Clark wrote in a text message Monday night. "It was really a good chance to strengthen our relationship and get to know each other better."

Clark, however, who still has a visit remaining this weekend to either Clemson or Ohio State, and then his final official visit will be Jan. 25 to Florirda, wasn't quite ready to say the Gators had moved in front of the rest of his four finalists. Northwestern, which Clark visited in November, is also in the mix.

"Ehh, can't really say that until I visit," Clark texted.

He also said he should know by Tuesday which school he will visit this weekend between Ohio State and Clemson. He is coming off a visit to Nebraska and has also visited Purdue, so he has just two official visits remaining.

"It's still in the air," Clark texted. "I'll talk to both tonight so I'll know in the morning."

The speedy receiver, who has clocked a 100-meters in 10.4 seconds, caught 49 passes for 1,112 yards and eight touchdowns this past season. He said he would definitely entertain the idea of running track at the next level if the situation was right.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/blogs/recruiting/os-james-clark-enjoys-in-home-visit-with-florida-joker-philliips-20130114,0,3848563.post

[GATORAZ]

Clark runs a 10.8 he has a PR of 10.4 but that was one race the timers could have been off (might have been hand timed) the win could have helped that day. Most of his times are around a 10.7-10.8

http://www.athletic.net/TrackandField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2247588

[GATORAZ]

Clark has decided to go to Clemson this weekend but says Ohio state is still in the picture

[demosthenes]

Clark has decided to go to Clemson this weekend but says Ohio state is still in the picture


Not as great of news as I would have hoped. This is a win for Clemson and now Joker and Muschamp will have to fight off OSU trying to take UF's official visit. Would rather of had Clark eliminate one team.

[Gatorrick22]

Clark has decided to go to Clemson this weekend but says Ohio state is still in the picture

Crap, Dabo Sweeney is publicly questioning one of his receivers (Hopkins) who's leaving early for the NFL...... Clark will get the full-court press for sure.

[InglesideGator]

Thanks for the updates!

[GATORAZ]

Not as great of news as I would have hoped. This is a win for Clemson and now Joker and Muschamp will have to fight off OSU trying to take UF's official visit. Would rather of had Clark eliminate one team.

I agree you know Urban is going to tell him to take the official to tOSU and drive to Florida.

[Gatorrick22]

Clark runs a 10.8 he has a PR of 10.4 but that was one race the timers could have been off (might have been hand timed) the win could have helped that day. Most of his times are around a 10.7-10.8

http://www.athletic.net/TrackandField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2247588



He's still plenty fast. :yes:

Does Debose run that fast?

[GATORAZ]

He's still plenty fast. :yes:

Does Debose run that fast?

nobody said he was slow but there is a big difference between a 10.4 and a 10.8 I don't know what Debose runs

[StrangeGator]

He's still plenty fast. :yes:

Does Debose run that fast?

Debose ran in the 10.4 range before his injury.

It's not unusual at all for a 17 year old to improve his speed significantly from one year to the next. Don't think Demps was running faster than 10.6 or 10.7 before his senior year in high school. Physical maturity and coaching make a big difference. Wouldn't be surprised to see Clark take .3 to .4 off his 100m times this spring. Regardless of his track times, his football speed is off the charts. He has a great first step, a great 10 yard burst and he continues to accelerate and separate way down field. The only question is how physical he will be against collegiate defenders. That's the only reason I put guys like Hawkins and Robinson ahead of him right now. As far as route running, body control and ball catching technique, he appears to be ahead of the other three commits.

[phideltdj]

I'm just curious why they don't time the recruits running in full pads so you can really get a feeling how they run on a football field. I bet you some of these times would surprise us and then others might not lose much of a step.

[Dreamliner]

I seem to recall that the difference between electronic timing and stopwatch can be around a half-second, such that a stopwatch-timed 10.4 might be 10.8 electronically-timed. Still quite fast, for a football player, just not Demps-fast.

Also, you rarely have to run 100 meters on the football field.

[UFreak]

I seem to recall that the difference between electronic timing and stopwatch can be around a half-second, such that a stopwatch-timed 10.4 might be 10.8 electronically-timed. Still quite fast, for a football player, just not Demps-fast.

Also, you rarely have to run 100 meters on the football field.

100 meters = 109 yards. Yes, very rare :)

[MadduxFanII]

The Coach With Spasms. TCWS

Ha ha. It's funny because Meyer experienced significant health issues and was scared for his well-being because he had dealt with an extraordinary amount of pain from a massive cyst in his brain, but it turned out not to be so serious, so it's OK to mock his concern.

WIT!

[akaijenkins1]

Clark runs a 10.8 he has a PR of 10.4 but that was one race the timers could have been off (might have been hand timed) the win could have helped that day. Most of his times are around a 10.7-10.8

http://www.athletic.net/TrackandField/Athlete.aspx?AID=2247588

It's more likely a mid 10.5. If you look at the kid who came in second place that day, you'll see that the second place kid runs 10.58 twice on the season, they pushed each other this day. What's more, Clark's times are erratic, he's only been running track since the 10th grade, never seen him run but I bet he has inconsistency in his form. He's about 10.6 on an average day if he knows what he's doing.

His 200m times are more consistent and a better barometer. They consistently get better as the season progresses and that 21.5 he ran at the state final prelims is not hand timed and very legit. This is a fast guy who with proper training at UF, good regimen and a more disciplined form, likely gets down to a 10.3 guy. Will never be a sprint Champion but Could help on a college relay though better suited on the football field.

By comparison, Rainey's high school best was 10.61/21.50 (crazy, right?) and he was plenty fast enough. Demps is out of this world which is why we think a 10.5/10.6 ain't much to write home about but it's great speed and more than enough to translate to football speed

[gatorbait96]

Would LOVE to add Clark but after getting Robinson I think he may end up at Clemson. Hope I'm wrong.

[Lawdog88]

So . . . don't think like that !

:yes:

[GATORAZ]

akaijenkins1 I agree he is a relay runner

[Gatorrick22]

What ever he runs..... it's fast enough, and he will only get faster in college.

[StrangeGator]

It's more likely a mid 10.5. If you look at the kid who came in second place that day, you'll see that the second place kid runs 10.58 twice on the season, they pushed each other this day. What's more, Clark's times are erratic, he's only been running track since the 10th grade, never seen him run but I bet he has inconsistency in his form. He's about 10.6 on an average day if he knows what he's doing.

His 200m times are more consistent and a better barometer. They consistently get better as the season progresses and that 21.5 he ran at the state final prelims is not hand timed and very legit. This is a fast guy who with proper training at UF, good regimen and a more disciplined form, likely gets down to a 10.3 guy. Will never be a sprint Champion but Could help on a college relay though better suited on the football field.

By comparison, Rainey's high school best was 10.61/21.50 (crazy, right?) and he was plenty fast enough. Demps is out of this world which is why we think a 10.5/10.6 ain't much to write home about but it's great speed and more than enough to translate to football speed

Exactly. No 10.4 guy is going to run that fast if there's no one on the track faster than 10.9. I saw Houston McTear run in a district meet just two weeks after he ran a nine flat to break the world record in the 100 yard dash. He ran a 9.6 that day. Most of the field ran over ten seconds.

BTW, as fast as Demps was, it was rumored that he never beat Rainey in the forty. Makes sense that Chris led off the 4x100 relay. I doubt either of them covered the first ten yards as quickly as Harvin.

[GATORAZ]

Exactly. No 10.4 guy is going to run that fast if there's no one on the track faster than 10.9. I saw Houston McTear run in a district meet just two weeks after he ran a nine flat to break the world record in the 100 yard dash. He ran a 9.6 that day. Most of the field ran over ten seconds.

BTW, as fast as Demps was, it was rumored that he never beat Rainey in the forty. Makes sense that Chris led off the 4x100 relay. I doubt either of them covered the first ten yards as quickly as Harvin.

you realize what place he ran is the first column?

[GATORAZ]

No matter what his track time is the James is fast and football fast. Earlier this year some people wanted John Mercer because of his BS 10.4 but the kid did not play fast. http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=1744991

James plays fast

[gator1986]

No matter what his track time is the James is fast and football fast. Earlier this year some people wanted John Mercer because of his BS 10.4 but the kid did not play fast. http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=1744991

James plays fast

James goes from 0 to top speed instantaneously.... There is no happy medium when it comes to his speed its no or go!

[Nicho]

Last year I played soccer against a guy who ran a 10.5 in college. He's only a couple of years out so I imagine he is still pretty close to that. It's incredible to actually be on the same field as -- and get smoked by (lol) -- a human who can run that fast. TV or long-distance viewing doesn't do these feats justice.

[g8r925]

Ha ha. It's funny because Meyer experienced significant health issues and was scared for his well-being because he had dealt with an extraordinary amount of pain from a massive cyst in his brain, but it turned out not to be so serious, so it's OK to mock his concern.

WIT!

And what is your point exactly?

[GATORAZ]

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/recruiting/2013/01/latest-on-wr-james-clark

Just spoke to WR James Clark who recently picked up an offer from the Buckeyes.

He has already officially visited Nebraska, Northwestern, and Purdue. The Purdue coaching change is going to get them left out of the picture.

That means he has two official visits left to take. He will be taking one of those this weekend to Clemson.

Clark's last official visit will be the following weekend to Florida or Ohio State. Florida is pushing hard still and has an ongoing relationship with Clark, while the Buckeyes have just joined the picture.

Talking to Clark, I do not expect the Buckeyes to get that last official visit.

This one should come down to Florida and Clemson.

[revthejedi]

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/recruiting/2013/01/latest-on-wr-james-clark

Yes.

[GATORAZ]

Sammy Watkins is James Clark's host this weekend at Clemson

[GATORAZ]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_-CIGCEAEu61M.jpg:large

[GATORAZ]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_-lUnCEAAXg4v.jpg:large

[demosthenes]

Who's the sweater vest?

[GATORAZ]

Who's the sweater vest?

Jeff Scott Clemson WR coach

[Minister_of_Information]

Doggone it.

[gatormoe1]

Wonder if that pic was taken before or after the money transaction.

[gatorr4life]

Clemson or Florida? Hmmm this is a no brainer. Florida in a landslide. We never lose recruits to Clemson. Lol

[GATORAZ]

The good news is he will not be committing to Clemson tomorrow

[StrangeGator]

Is Northwestern still in the picture?

[born2beagator]

Clemson or Florida? Hmmm this is a no brainer. Florida in a landslide. We never lose recruits to Clemson. Lol

If he wants to never win anything, let him go

[GATORAZ]

Is Northwestern still in the picture?

I dont think James has said anything about who is in or out of the picture. That being said I would be shocked if he didn't choose Clemson or Florida.

[UFFL]

The good news is he will not be committing to Clemson tomorrow

How do ya know?

[gator1986]

That jersey looks like crap on him! Lol

[NoahBeanBizzel]

No matter what his track time is the James is fast and football fast. Earlier this year some people wanted John Mercer because of his BS 10.4 but the kid did not play fast. http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=1744991

James plays fast

He sure does. I never really pay attention to forty times the recruiting services give, although they are more accurate now than they were years ago when every receiver prospect reportedly ran a 4.4. They seem to be more honest now about how fast these kids really are. I pay attention to what they look like with the ball in their hands.

AZ, when I watch Clark on film, to me he's as good a receiver as any I've seen in this class. Not the prototype, but neither was Harvin. I can't see how he blocks on many of his clips, but speed, cutting ability, explosiveness...he's as impressive as any (WR) prospect I've seen. I wonder why he's not considered to be an elite prospect. Now, a lot of the major programs around the country are starting to catch on to how good this kid is, but I just don't see how he flew so far under the radar.

[gator1986]

He sure does. I never really pay attention to forty times the recruiting services give, although they are more accurate now than they were years ago when every receiver prospect reportedly ran a 4.4. They seem to be more honest now about how fast these kids really are. I pay attention to what they look like with the ball in their hands.

AZ, when I watch Clark on film, to me he's as good a receiver as any I've seen in this class. Not the prototype, but neither was Harvin. I can't see how he blocks on many of his clips, but speed, cutting ability, explosiveness...he's as impressive as any (WR) prospect I've seen. I wonder why he's not considered to be an elite prospect. Now, a lot of the major programs around the country are starting to catch on to how good this kid is, but I just don't see how he flew so far under the radar.

Clark gets the ball and gets up field fast. His zero to top speed is as good as anyone I have seen, and his moves are unreal!

[Juggernautz]

He should know by now he has a chance to play as a freshman for us.

[your_perfect_enemy]

That jersey looks like crap on him! Lol

It's purple it looks like crap on any football player

[gator1986]

It's purple it looks like crap on any football player

Lol....- I never understood the choice of purple on a jersey in a mans sport... This team by my town Booker High is all bright purple, it's Fugly

[GATORAZ]

He sure does. I never really pay attention to forty times the recruiting services give, although they are more accurate now than they were years ago when every receiver prospect reportedly ran a 4.4. They seem to be more honest now about how fast these kids really are. I pay attention to what they look like with the ball in their hands.

AZ, when I watch Clark on film, to me he's as good a receiver as any I've seen in this class. Not the prototype, but neither was Harvin. I can't see how he blocks on many of his clips, but speed, cutting ability, explosiveness...he's as impressive as any (WR) prospect I've seen. I wonder why he's not considered to be an elite prospect. Now, a lot of the major programs around the country are starting to catch on to how good this kid is, but I just don't see how he flew so far under the radar.

He is ranked the number 23 WR in the country by 247 not much separates the number 25 and the number 10 WR. His Junior film was underwhelming that is why he did not get attention earlier.

[GATORAZ]

WR Ky Prieter committed to Clemson on his visit today. Very underrated WR prospect. Ky was scheduled to visit tOSU next weekend.

[gator7_5]

good.

[GATORAZ]

James Clark ‏@GotEmCoach2
Clemson Visit Was Great!

Clark really liked his visit. Dabo will have his in home with Clark this week. Clark plans to make his announcement on NSD.

Clark also might not visit Florida again seems like he is just worn down by the process.

[GATORAZ]

Lets see what Clark decides after he talks to the Florida staff this week

[UFFL]

I'm not feeling so good about Clark right now

[UFFL]

Even then, you have to be thrilled we got D Rob

Non-sequitur, but Brad Lawing may be on our staff now

[bofusgators]

lark would be a good one for us.

[lean_gator]

You cant get them all guys. Very good WR class we have coming in.

[gatorbait96]

Yeah...I mean it was likely going to be either DRob or Clark...Can't get them all and can't blame the kid either.

[ETGator1]

Color James Clark Clemson. He probably committed to Clemson during the visit.

[GATORAZ]

I dont think we should count Clark out of this class yet

[revthejedi]

As long as he doesn't cancel his visit I think we're in good shape personally.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Gator Country

[elrongator]

Kids all say great things after a visit unless they are absolutely not interested.
His comments change nothing IMO.
Clark can still be a Gator, especially with more recent departures from our roster that included Stephen Alli.

[GATORAZ]

As long as he doesn't cancel his visit I think we're in good shape personally.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Gator Country

just need to get him and his family on campus before NSD we have 2 weekends to do it

[The_Graygator]

Can't believe NSD is that close again.

When NSD gets here, it's like the year's football season is officially ended and over. lol

[FloridaxGators1]

Can't believe NSD is that close again.

When NSD gets here, it's like the year's football season is officially ended and over. lol

After the spring game for me... but of course, you meant this years

[StrangeGator]

He should know by now he has a chance to play as a freshman for us.

Wish I believed that was true. We don't throw a lot, and throw even less to small fast guys. He'd be coming in with five other true freshmen, one of whom will have practiced throughout the spring. He'd also one of the smallest of the group. If speed and athleticism was key to our offense, Debose would be an AA already.

I think our offense is evolving, and I think Clark is very advanced in his route running and pass catching abilities. But if it comes down to where he'd become productive on offense sooner, I don't think the smartest pick would be UF.

[GATORAZ]

Ohio state is trying very hard to get the last official visit. All three staff will go in home with James next week.

[ETGator1]

Ryan Timmons

[Lawdog88]

That's a name.

[GATORAZ]

In homes for Clark this week-Nebraska’s Bo Pelini on Tuesday Ohio State’s Urban Meyer on Wednesday and Clemson’s Dabo Swinney on Thursday.

[revthejedi]

^I'm surprised one of our guys aren't going in home this week as well. We can't let him cancel his visit.

[GATORAZ]

^I'm surprised one of our guys aren't going in home this week as well. We can't let him cancel his visit.

I was pretty positive Urban would go and trial and get Clark's last official. CWM might wait until the last moment to do the in home.

Florida's staff will visit with Clark this week as well we are just not sending in CWM which I think is the right call.

[john_kemp]

well guess what........we waited too long to offer him...he has bumped his visit to Florida for Ohio State..........

[GATORAZ]

well guess what........we waited too long to offer him...he has bumped his visit to Florida for Ohio State..........

he has been to Florida plenty of times and still can take an unofficial visit tOSU offered after us and the only way he can go there is with an official

[edit]

is that official I thought he was going to decide later in the week ?

[GATORAZ]

One thing to remember is Dabo tried the same thing with D rob. Dabo took his in home visit early to try and stop Robinson from visiting Florida again how did that work out?

[StrangeGator]

Given his proximity to Gainesville, I think the in-home visit with UF coaches could be more important than his last two official visits. We just got a substantial upgrade in coaching at his position plus Muschamp is pretty effective in the living room

[GATORAZ]

Given his proximity to Gainesville, I think the in-home visit with UF coaches could be more important than his last two official visits. We just got a substantial upgrade in coaching at his position plus Muschamp is pretty effective in the living room

hopefully CWM will be able to secure a unofficial or official for Feb 1st and James will bring his family.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I wouldn't count Florida out of this one with Joker Phillips in our back pocket. That was a great hire by Muschamp.

It is far from over for Clark's signature.

[Gatorphenom]

Looking at this guy's most recent highlight film and I'm shocked he hasn't blown up the recruiting rankings.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Looking at this guy's most recent highlight film and I'm shocked he hasn't blown up the recruiting rankings.

I was stunned at how good Clark was on film the first time I saw him. His footage impressed me more than any other offensive player I've seen that we're recruiting. The only player in this class more impressive than Clark is Keanu Neal.

Watch Neal's highlights if you haven't. What a player. To me, he's incredibly underrated, not even being ranked among the top 50 prospects in America. That's a joke.

[GATORAZ]

I was stunned at how good Clark was on film the first time I saw him. His footage impressed me more than any other offensive player I've seen that we're recruiting. The only player in this class more impressive than Clark is Keanu Neal.

Watch Neal's highlights if you haven't. What a player. To me, he's incredibly underrated, not even being ranked among the top 50 prospects in America. That's a joke.

you think someone not rated as a top 50 prospect is a joke? WOW Neal is a top 150 prospect.