How many of Kiffin's 5 5 Star recruits decommit?

[horanic]

I think at least 3 of his prized recruits will decommit if Kiffen is canned. Quite frankly I wouldnt be surprised if they decommit just because the team just doesnt perform year in and year out. I sure hope Muschamp has his phone ready when Kiffen is canned.

And yes you did read correctly...Kiffen has 5 5 star recruits already committed.

[medigator]

Pat Haden the AD said yesterday regardless how they inish the season that Kifin will be the coach of USC next yr

[nastyreptile]

Pat Haden the AD said yesterday regardless how they inish the season that Kifin will be the coach of USC next yr

I thought that's what Kiffin said that Haden told him...not that Kiffin would ever lie about anything..:whistle:

[GATORAZ]

I think at least 3 of his prized recruits will decommit if Kiffen is canned. Quite frankly I wouldnt be surprised if they decommit just because the team just doesnt perform year in and year out. I sure hope Muschamp has his phone ready when Kiffen is canned.

And yes you did read correctly...Kiffen has 5 5 star recruits already committed.

If they leave they will be replaced by kids that are just as elite there is basically a waiting list for USC right now. Our class is almost done only two USC commits we would look at right now Jason Hatcher and Jalen Ramsey.

Also Haden said yesterday,

"Lane is my head coach, 150 percent, now and hopefully for a long time," Haden told the Los Angeles Times. "I see the future. I see the potential. I know what he's been fighting through and I like what he's done."

[geauxgator1]

Pat Haden the AD said yesterday regardless how they inish the season that Kifin will be the coach of USC next yr

That's what has been reported. If he does get canned, which I don't think will happen, it depends on who they get to replace him For some reason I can see Gruden going to LA. I don't see Gruden going to Tennessee, as has been reported.

[jagervol01]

That's what has been reported. If he does get canned, which I don't think will happen, it depends on who they get to replace him For some reason I can see Gruden going to LA. I don't see Gruden going to Tennessee, as has been reported.
Gruden already turned down USC in January of 2010 just before Lane Kiffin was hired. He has no ties to that program at all. If he does return to college coaching it will be Tennessee but it is much more likely that he either stays with Monday Night Football or takes over for Andy Reid in Philly or Norv Turner in San Diego...and Kiffin isn't going to be fired begin with.

[deviation]

It's USC... why would they decommit? One of the best places in the USA to go to college and the scenes are even better.

You could put a no name coach there and they would still pull in 5* recruits.

[dadx4]

They won't decommit because their checks have already cleared. :grin:

[fredsanford]

Why would they fire him before the probation ends?

[tomis_gator]

I thought that's what Kiffin said that Haden told him...not that Kiffin would ever lie about anything..:whistle:

Bill Plaschke of the LA Times says he actually called Haden after the game to confirm Kiffin's claims and Pat did just that.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-plaschke-usc-ucla-20121118,0,3801159.column

[luciaboy]

none, it is still usc and an nfl pipeline

[rpmGator]

The part of Mike Shula is played by Lane Kiffen...

[lean_gator]

None. But when a coordinator at UF leaves, recruits go crazy! Funny how that works.

[AmbroseGator]

I love it. Hopes he stays for a long, long time. As someone said already, USC will get their recruits. That can't be helped. But with Kiffen at the helm there could be plenty of 3-4 loss seasons for them on the horizon and that suits me just fine.

[oxymoron]

Kiffee must have some really embarassing photos of Haden. He'll wreck that program within 3 years.

[gatorchamp27]

I love it. Hopes he stays for a long, long time. As someone said already, USC will get their recruits. That can't be helped. But with Kiffen at the helm there could be plenty of 3-4 loss seasons for them on the horizon and that suits me just fine.

Amen!!!!

[GatorAbe7]

Kiffin will be at SC until the effects of the scholarship reductions are passed, meaning two more seasons, for a host of reasons:

In no particular order:

1. Kiffin's buyout is enormous. Not even Pac 12 channel money can save it. Between him and his Dad they make 5.5 million.

2. The AD, Pat Haden, will have a harder time filling the HC vacancy with scholarship reductions still lingering. Wait two years and the floodgates will open.

3. Kiffin has at least recruited well, meaning the next coach has a lot to work with.

4. These years were awash anyway, meaning Kiffin was there mainly to withstand the program through the sanctions years. Keeping him around, even after mediocre years like this, will create the demand to can him that SC admins wanted all along.

[busigator96]

if they cange their minds, does UF even want them at this point?

[crl]

None. But when a coordinator at UF leaves, recruits go crazy! Funny how that works.


There aren't as many hot easy bimbos in Gainesville and you don't get the movie star treatment. I think the crackdown on the potheads will hurt recruiting also. Seems the best athletes smoke pot or have poor grades or both, which we can't recruit.

[GATORDONE]

Zero and I'll put money on it

[orangebluegator]

There aren't as many hot easy bimbos in Gainesville and you don't get the movie star treatment. I think the crackdown on the potheads will hurt recruiting also. Seems the best athletes smoke pot or have poor grades or both, which we can't recruit.

Uh oh. Does this mean Washington and Colorado are gonna be reeling in the 5 stars?

[gatorman_07732]

Why would they fire him before the probation ends?

This has been my point but it seems like emotions exceed all around here

[keypox]

you gotta be a really bad coach to lose at USC west.

[woltes]

the guy they would really have a shot at it Ramsey.

[Gator515151]

I saw the funniest thread title on a USC message board the other day. It read "Kiffin=Zook". I had to check and make sure I wasn't on a Gator board.

[GatorLaw]

If they leave they will be replaced by kids that are just as elite there is basically a waiting list for USC right now. Our class is almost done only two USC commits we would look at right now Jason Hatcher and Jalen Ramsey.

Also Haden said yesterday,

"Lane is my head coach, 150 percent, now and hopefully for a long time," Haden told the Los Angeles Times. "I see the future. I see the potential. I know what he's been fighting through and I like what he's done."

Yeah, it's not every coach that can take a preseason #1 team and have it 7-4 after 11 games.

[gotime51]

honestly, he needs to fire his daddy. if i were haden, i would mandate it. its either you and your dad get fired or just your dad

[GATORAZ]

Yeah, it's not every coach that can take a preseason #1 team and have it 7-4 after 11 games.

like others have said he needs to fire his father. Lat year the main reason they lost games was because of the D the same with this year. The talent on defense is also not what USC is used to they should have not been ranked number 1 in the first place.

[HudsonGator]

The talk of him having to fire his father is ironic, since the only reason he is a head coach is his father.

Most guys put years and years in before getting a shot at being a HC. Thanks to his Dad, he moved up the ranks faster than he should have.

[GATORAZ]

The talk of him having to fire his father is ironic, since the only reason he is a head coach is his father.

Most guys put years and years in before getting a shot at being a HC. Thanks to his Dad, he moved up the ranks faster than he should have.

I love how people just assume it was all because of his dad. The guy was OC at USC. He is a great recruiter as well. Teams hire him because him and ED can recruit their ass off. If I was his father I would retire so my son can keep his dream job.

[tomis_gator]

I love how people just assume it was all because of his dad. The guy was OC at USC. He is a great recruiter as well. Teams hire him because him and ED can recruit their ass off. If I was his father I would retire so my son can keep his dream job.

You are fooling yourself if you think Monte had nothing to do with junior getting the Tennessee and USC jobs. Lane even marketed himself that way..."I'm the only one who can bring my dad...a brilliant NFL DC....to your program."

When Lane was hired at both places, no one was gushing over his coaching ability, but everyone (I mean their fans) was drooling at the prospect of having Monte Kiffin coach their defense.

[GATORAZ]

You are fooling yourself if you think Monte had nothing to do with junior getting the Tennessee and USC jobs. Lane even marketed himself that way..."I'm the only one who can bring my dad...a brilliant NFL DC....to your program."

When Lane was hired at both places, no one was gushing over his coaching ability, but everyone (I mean their fans) was drooling at the prospect of having Monte Kiffin coach their defense.

Everyone was gushing over his and Ed's recruiting ability. Did Monty help? Yes but that happens with a lot of successful peoples children. If he couldn't recruit nothing Monty could have said would have gotten Lane those jobs.

[DeBigLeezard]

I love it. Hopes he stays for a long, long time. As someone said already, USC will get their recruits. That can't be helped. But with Kiffen at the helm there could be plenty of 3-4 loss seasons for them on the horizon and that suits me just fine.

That's right!
Keep Kiffy at USC and you will continue to see a program continue to falter....
Why?
Because it is more than his "great" recruiting AND its more than the Hollywood lifestyle that they have.
What they DO have is a coach that is there for himself.

Ask Al Davis what he thinks of Kiffy.
Ask any Tennessee Booster what they think of Kiffy.
Not just some fans... but ask any Vol Booster and those on the inside as to how Kiffy acted.
Does ANYONE think that anybody connected with the University of Tennessee wants this man back on their campus???

And now... USC is stuck with him.

Kiffy is like the rudder on the Titanic.

He is not the huge iceberg that has ripped silently through the hull of the Titanic.
He is not the gashing hole on the right side of the ship.
He is not the water rushing in the gash.
He is the rudder.

The water is pouring in but no one on board is truly aware of how bad their situation is.
All they can sense is that the boat's engines are off and silent...and that folks are being asked to put on life jackets.
Men and women are being asked to calmly go to the main deck and wait outside for a lifeboat.
Within three hours... all hell breaks loose!

What happened three hours earlier?
Because the Titanic's rudder was so small, it could not turn the boat quick enough to totally avoid the iceberg.
Every British ship built following the Titanic disaster had a bigger and strong rudder.

USC is like the passengers on the Titanic. They have no idea that their ship as been gashed... and how quickly their "ship" will sink under Kaptain Kiffy.

[HudsonGator]

You are fooling yourself if you think Monte had nothing to do with junior getting the Tennessee and USC jobs. Lane even marketed himself that way..."I'm the only one who can bring my dad...a brilliant NFL DC....to your program."

When Lane was hired at both places, no one was gushing over his coaching ability, but everyone (I mean their fans) was drooling at the prospect of having Monte Kiffin coach their defense.

Exactly. Kiffin is a joke. Look at the path of destruction he leaves in his wake, Oakland, Tennessee, and before long, USC.

Oh and that special recruiting that he and Ed are so good at got Tennessee on probation.

[GATORAZ]

Exactly. Kiffin is a joke. Look at the path of destruction he leaves in his wake, Oakland, Tennessee, and before long, USC.

Oh and that special recruiting that he and Ed are so good at got Tennessee on probation.

what did he do to Oakland? (Al Davis)
He left Tennessee but who wouldn't leave UT for USC?

[HudsonGator]

Yeah Oakland, he was fired for cause and Davis voided his contract. How often do you see that happen? Answer: never.

He left UT after only one year and after he left he got them put on probation. The gift that keeps on giving.

Not sure why you are defending him, but he is a proven liar and a fraud.

He'll be fired from USC soon enough.

[GATORAZ]

Yeah Oakland, he was fired for cause and Davis voided his contract. How often do you see that happen? Answer: never.

He left UT after only one year and after he left he got them put on probation. The gift that keeps on giving.

Not sure why you are defending him, but he is a proven liar and a fraud.

He'll be fired from USC soon enough.

Well why would anybody hire him for an NFL job in the first place? Al Davis was crazy this can not even be disputed. If you blame anyone for the Oakland debacle it is Al Davis.

He left UT they have a tiny bit of probation because of what some coach on his staff did, It is nothing major and nothing to worry about. He left for his dream job and others would do the same.

What about him is a fraud?

He might get fired from USC but that doesn't take away the fact that he can recruit and he is a pretty decent OC. He will continue to get good jobs because he can recruit. And he should fire his father because that defense is terrible.

[HudsonGator]

Be a Kiffin apologist if you like, but everything I said was factual.

[GATORAZ]

Be a Kiffin apologist if you like, but everything I said was factual.

so is everything I said

[HudsonGator]

Not sure how any Gator fan can have any respect for Kiffin.

Fired for cause from his first HC job.

Got the school who gave him his second HC job on NCAA probation (after only being on the job for 1 year). And of course, there's this gem:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MzEX9i6iU


And off the top of my head, in his short time at USC:

Took a walk-on's scholarship away to put a criminal back on the team.

Caught in blatant and stupid lie about his vote in the coaches poll.

Had a ball-boy get caught deflating footballs during a game.

Switched the jersey numbers of his players during a game against Colorado (Colorado, really?).

[GATORAZ]

I said he can recruit and he can run an offense both those things are true that's why he has a head coaching job. That is also why he will continue to get jobs.

[HudsonGator]

Time will tell, time will tell...

[MadduxFanII]

Kiffin can pretty clearly recruit. Why and how, I'm not sure, but then I'm not an insanely talented 18-year-old with grown men drooling at my feet, begging me to let them pay for my education in exchange for playing football for them. So my failure to comprehend Kiffin's recruiting allure is quite meaningless. He's an excellent recruiter.

He's also clearly a pretty awful human being, and I've been delighted to see his performance this year support my dearly held belief that he's not a very good coach overall. I was beginning to doubt that, but I can set aside that doubt for awhile now.

[rpmGator]

Will KIffen leave USCW in as bad shape as he did the Vols, or the Raiders...

[bleedorangeblue]

I said he can recruit and he can run an offense both those things are true that's why he has a head coaching job. That is also why he will continue to get jobs.

No doubt he can recruit. Coaching, I question. Did you see the end of the Notre Dame game? That was the worst clock management and play calling that I can remember seeing in a long time. He made Addazio look like an offensive genius!:happy:

[bposs]

Not sure how any Gator fan can have any respect for Kiffin.

Fired for cause from his first HC job.

Got the school who gave him his second HC job on NCAA probation (after only being on the job for 1 year). And of course, there's this gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MzEX9i6iU

And off the top of my head, in his short time at USC:

Took a walk-on's scholarship away to put a criminal back on the team.

Caught in blatant and stupid lie about his vote in the coaches poll.

Had a ball-boy get caught deflating footballs during a game.

Switched the jersey numbers of his players during a game against Colorado (Colorado, really?).

And ran 3 straight running plays up the gut against ND at their goal line, and didn't even take the FG, and ran to much time off the clock! Joke of a coach!

[your_perfect_enemy]

wasnt sarkisian the main oc during usc's run, then kiffin took over when he left of uw?

[GATORAZ]

No doubt he can recruit. Coaching, I question. Did you see the end of the Notre Dame game? That was the worst clock management and play calling that I can remember seeing in a long time. He made Addazio look like an offensive genius!:happy:

well Lane and Addazio can both recruit and coach.

[GATORAZ]

Will KIffen leave USCW in as bad shape as he did the Vols, or the Raiders...

the Raiders are you new to watching football?

[Speedofsand]

Monte resigns. New DC, does this make any def. recruits flinch? Ramsey?

[gatorkev_85]

I was thinking the same thing. Could Monte resigning push Ramsey to look harder at us.

[Veritas]

No doubt he can recruit. Coaching, I question. Did you see the end of the Notre Dame game? That was the worst clock management and play calling that I can remember seeing in a long time. He made Addazio look like an offensive genius!:happy:

Yup. I think Haden is going to force him to hire an OC. Head coach and OC are too big of jobs for one person to handle. Rumor is that Jeff Tedford interviewed for the position.

[Gator4Christ]

Ramsey is solidly committed....don't see a switch happening

[1984Gator]

Zero and I'll put money on it

You mean Kiffy will put money on it....