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canadian_gator
11-09-2012, 11:33 AM
Why not? Alabama-Huntsville has one.

HudsonGator
11-09-2012, 11:34 AM
Hear hear

GatorKP
11-09-2012, 11:37 AM
I think it's Alabama Huntsville that has the team. And they're the only Southern team that plays NCAA hockey (not club). I think it would be awesome if we had a team but financially, it would be costly. You would have to fly long distances to every road game and you probably wouldn't draw that big of a crowd to home games. My guess would be you would lose quite a bit of money. Now, I would go to some games and think it would be awesome to watch. But I'm guessing it wouldn't get to big of a draw most of the time.

GatorLaw
11-09-2012, 11:38 AM
Why not? Alabama-Huntsville has one.

That's why not.

intimigator1
11-09-2012, 11:40 AM
I say "Puck it!"..without a doubt there should be hockey in Gainesville...hell there is a really good team in Pensacola!!! I am all in on this one!!! We could beat Minnesota..Minnesota Duluth...Minnesota State just beat UM....now this would enhance all that is Gator!!! Football goes South with this addition! Thanks GatorCountry for giving us a new direction! :)

HudsonGator
11-09-2012, 11:46 AM
Frozen Four, Baby!

intimigator1
11-09-2012, 12:04 PM
ST.Cloud State!!!! Oh YEAH!! Who can rule them out???? Not me!!!! 5-1 odds they take it all this year!!! Any takers....note: Only Florida natives are allowed to bet this line...for others..give me a break..take Colorado College!! You outta your minds?

UFNut
11-09-2012, 12:14 PM
We would have to go to Jacksonville or Orlando just to practice....besides we have a club team last I checked. Until we have ice in Gainesville, this idea doesn't hold water...or ice.

GatorBen
11-09-2012, 12:18 PM
Maybe we can build an indoor football practice facility in such a way that it could also contain an ice rink and some amount of seating.

PIMking
11-09-2012, 12:20 PM
They do have a hockey team, it's a club team and won the 'SEC' two years ago and went to nationals.

hd80dun
11-09-2012, 12:30 PM
UF had a hockey team a decade ago. Don't they play any more? They used to play in Jacksonville.

Edit: I just saw the post above mine. Good to know, thanks.

grant1
11-09-2012, 12:39 PM
Only to take up more space here? No thanks.

intimigator1
11-09-2012, 01:11 PM
I love the change. Thanks Gator Country.....YOU ROCK!

Swampmaster
11-09-2012, 01:13 PM
can they lay a floor over the wood in the odome? How will they freeze all that ice?

orangeblueorangeblue
11-09-2012, 02:53 PM
never heard of this 'hockey'

UFreak
11-09-2012, 03:01 PM
I disagree

sgtfury
11-09-2012, 03:07 PM
Hockey @ UF just like men's soccer: club level only why title 9 (gender equity)

TheRaid
11-09-2012, 04:30 PM
I love the change. Thanks Gator Country.....YOU ROCK!

Enough already.

secgator
11-09-2012, 09:03 PM
Why not? Alabama-Huntsville has one.

Where have you been? It has been posted several times over the past--we DO have, as noted in another post in this thread--a hockey 'team' albeit a club, not a scholly sport here. In fact, the entire SEC has a hockey league with the exception of Kentucky and LSU. No doubt Mizzou has hockey and possibly TAMU, just they aren't shown on the SEC site. FSU also has a team which plays UF every year. One thing to keep in mind...and admire for that matter---the kids playing have to pay their own way! They practice in JAX--drive back and forth on their own--everything is funded by the players and I suppose donations. Hats off to those guys who obviously are playing for the love of the game.

As we speak, UF leads the SEC East with a 5-2 record. :)

Here are the links to UF Hockey, and the SEC Hockey.

http://ufhockey.org/

http://sechchockey.com/

PIMking
11-09-2012, 09:15 PM
never heard of this 'hockey'

it's only the best, and hardest sport to play...

hd80dun
11-09-2012, 09:26 PM
it's only the best, and hardest sport to play...

Hardest? Try hitting a 95 mile per hour fastball. And if you ever nail that, try doing the same to an equally fast splitter.

gatorman_07732
11-09-2012, 09:31 PM
Hockey is just not for the south, it's like mixing grits and raviolis

PIMking
11-09-2012, 09:41 PM
Hardest? Try hitting a 95 mile per hour fastball. And if you ever nail that, try doing the same to an equally fast splitter.

Try skating on ice while hitting a puck at speeds of 90 mph all while not getting your head ripped off by another player. Or if you're lucky be a defenseman that your job is to stand infront of those 95mph shots on purpose...

hd80dun
11-09-2012, 10:05 PM
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nortonis
11-09-2012, 11:45 PM
Haha. Not only did we have a team, I played on it in 93. We never actually played a game that year. We just had a bunch of practices in Tampa.

jd
11-10-2012, 08:28 AM
Hd80dun obviously you have never played the game. Hockey requires way more athletic ability, agility, and toughness than baseball. Not even close. You are the type of guy I would love to skate across my blueline with your head down.

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 08:57 AM
Hd80dun obviously you have never played the game. Hockey requires way more athletic ability, agility, and toughness than baseball. Not even close. You are the type of guy I would love to skate across my blueline with your head down.

LOL. I have played hockey. I wasn't talking about "checking," and if I was still young I would pay good money just to see you try. Many people made that mistake. :joecool:

I was talking about the difficulty of any and all aspects of playing hockey compared to the difficulty of hitting a baseball. There is absolutely no comparison. Hitting a baseball is harder to do than anything you want to name about hockey. Hitting a baseball takes much more hand-eye coordination than any aspect of hockey.

gatordavisl
11-10-2012, 09:13 AM
LOL. I have played hockey. I wasn't talking about "checking," and if I was still young I would pay good money just to see you try. Many people made that mistake. :joecool:

I was talking about the difficulty of any and all aspects of playing hockey compared to the difficulty of hitting a baseball. There is absolutely no comparison. Hitting a baseball is harder to do than anything you want to name about hockey. Hitting a baseball takes much more hand-eye coordination than any aspect of hockey. If you isolate the construct of hand-eye coordination, you can make the case. But to compare any and all aspects of one sport to an isolated construct in another does not make sense in the discussion of which sport is most difficult. A more valid comparison of difficulty is comprehensive for both sports. According to eight panelists in a poll (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills) conducted by ESPN, hockey is a good bit more difficult than baseball.

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 09:29 AM
If you isolate the construct of hand-eye coordination, you can make the case. But to compare any and all aspects of one sport to an isolated construct in another does not make sense in the discussion of which sport is most difficult. A more valid comparison of difficulty is comprehensive for both sports. According to eight panelists in a poll (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills) conducted by ESPN, hockey is a good bit more difficult than baseball.

When I made my very first comment in this thread I said:

Hardest? Try hitting a 95 mile per hour fastball. And if you ever nail that, try doing the same to an equally fast splitter.


Unfortunately, that was an incomplete answer that led to misunderstanding. I should have been more specific that I was talking about a certain aspect of the games. Hitting a baseball, unless you are a pitcher, is the single most important aspect. Without that ability you won't go far. It is the equivalent in importance to skating in hockey.

Hitting in baseball is the hardest thing to do and takes the most skill. The sport of hockey is definitely "harder" overall but hitting a baseball is the single "hardest" thing to do in the world of sports.


Edit: I just went back and checked the link you provided and see that the poll actually agrees with what I was "trying" to say. Here is the link that lays that out:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills?sort=handEye#grid (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills?sort=handEye#grid)

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 10:12 AM
According to eight panelists in a poll (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills) conducted by ESPN, hockey is a good bit more difficult than baseball.

I just went and looked closer at that list and it's pretty good! I have actually done (at some level) 7 of the top 9 sports, with 2 at the college or pro level (and 2 very limited). I was kind of surprised that the "big 4" sports (as I think of them), football, baseball, basketball and hockey, made the Top 10. That is a really good break down. Thanks for posting the link.

nortonis
11-10-2012, 10:25 AM
Hockey is the most difficult sport I've ever played, and I've played them all. There is no other sport where you play so hard for 1 minute that you have to be replaced with a fresh player. Hitting a ball may be difficult to do, and requires great hand-eye coordination, but so do many video games, and wouldn't compare them to giving it your all in any sport.

gatordavisl
11-10-2012, 10:34 AM
I just went and looked closer at that list and it's pretty good! I have actually done (at some level) 7 of the top 9 sports, with 2 at the college or pro level (and 2 very limited). I was kind of surprised that the "big 4" sports (as I think of them), football, baseball, basketball and hockey, made the Top 10. That is a really good break down. Thanks for posting the link. Often polls presented by news media lack validity. This one, however, includes a reasonably comprehensive list of categories and the eight members of the panel appear to offer some credibility. Would be interesting to see a measure of inter-rater reliability for the poll. Then again, it is sports poll and we need not get too too mired in minutiae.

MaceoP
11-10-2012, 11:30 AM
Hockey is a very difficult sport to play. I grew up playing baseball, football, and basketball. I joined a men's soccer league when i was in my 30's, and also played a little roller hockey. Soccer by far is the most un-natural for an American of my era, who never played as a youth. Soccer is very difficult for those who grew up mostly with hand-eye coordination sports.

Obviously the biggest problem with hockey is the lack of facilities, and the difficulty in accessing those facilities. When I lived on Long Island many years ago, I had a good friend who played in a men's ice-hockey league. He usually played anywhere from 12 to 2 am as that was the time his league had access to the ice rink.

In reality, all sports are difficult when you get to the elite level.

In my day, I could hit a fastball, but obviously how many 95mph fastballs did I ever see.. Not many. I believe in all sports, especially at the elite level, the difficulty of the task is compounded by having to consistently accomplish the task..

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 11:31 AM
Hockey is the most difficult sport I've ever played, and I've played them all. There is no other sport where you play so hard for 1 minute that you have to be replaced with a fresh player. Hitting a ball may be difficult to do, and requires great hand-eye coordination, but so do many video games, and wouldn't compare them to giving it your all in any sport.

If you were going only by the stamina it takes to play a sport then hockey would be one of the hardest by far, as would collegiate wrestling and several others such as marathon running. As I said, "overall," hockey is definitely a harder "sport." But hitting a baseball is clearly the hardest thing to do successfully AND consistently. To even compare it in any way to video games is beyond ridiculous.

Baseball doesn't take anywhere near what many other sports require in terms of physical conditioning (though that is different for pitchers and catchers). But conditioning is not a "skill." It is not something you are born with but is something that anybody with good health and determination can acquire.

The ability to be a good hitter in baseball relies much more on innate abilities or gifts than it does in any amount of practicing or studying or techniques, etc. A person who is born with the abilities can certainly refine those abilities and improve those abilities, but all the practice in the world cannot "create" a great hitter.

The world is jam packed with kids and teenagers who are video game wizards. The list of lifetime .300 hitters at the highest level of baseball is an infinitely smaller list. And that is only a very small percentage of all those who have played baseball at the highest levels.

A .300 hitter is someone who failed 7 out of 10 times. Fail 7 out of 10 times after playing a 162 game schedule for 15 years or so and you'll likely end up in the Hall of Fame. That is how difficult it is to hit a baseball. That is why that poll ranks hitting a baseball as the hardest possible thing in sports.

Nobody who has ever even come close to playing baseball at the highest level possible would ever mistake hitting for playing video games.

MaceoP
11-10-2012, 11:42 AM
But hitting a baseball is clearly the hardest thing to do successfully AND consistently.



I would tend to agree with this statement.. However the difficulty in hitting a 95mph fastball is due to the fact that a good pitcher will never let you know what pitch is coming. If any decent player went to a batting cage and only had to hit 95mph fastballs, eventually he would be able to time the machine and have alot more success with hitting than he would against a live pitcher.

In baseball, as opposed to (for example), throwing a football, shooting a basketball, kicking a soccerball, shooting a puck, etc, one doesn't have control over the situation. The task is initiated by the opposing pitcher. This fact, IMO, makes it much more difficult to accomplish.

nortonis
11-10-2012, 11:53 AM
I don't get it. Yes, hitting a baseball is perhaps the hardest thing to do consistently, but so is operating on a human heart, and painting a masterpiece. I define hard, in the context of sports, as physically exerting. For me, hockey is the most physically exerting sport Ive ever played. Hitting a bullseye in darts is very difficult to do, but I wouldn't say that it is one of the hardest sports. The same goes with billiards.

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 12:22 PM
I would tend to agree with this statement.. However the difficulty in hitting a 95mph fastball is due to the fact that a good pitcher will never let you know what pitch is coming. If any decent player went to a batting cage and only had to hit 95mph fastballs, eventually he would be able to time the machine and have alot more success with hitting than he would against a live pitcher.

In baseball, as opposed to (for example), throwing a football, shooting a basketball, kicking a soccerball, shooting a puck, etc, one doesn't have control over the situation. The task is initiated by the opposing pitcher. This fact, IMO, makes it much more difficult to accomplish.

Hitting a 95 mph fastball in a batting cage is certainly a bit easier because you know where the ball is going to be. All you have to do is stick the bat in a certain spot before the ball gets there. But even then the difference between making contact with a ball and getting "hits" are miles apart. Plus, that has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of "hitting a baseball" since baseball games aren't played with "pitching machines."

It also is absolutely meaningless if you are talking about facing a pitcher who throws nothing but fastballs because pitchers don't throw to the same spot every time. MLB is filled with incredibly successful closers who seldom throw anything but fastballs because the greatest baseball players on the planet can hardly hit them. (If you want to take the idea of throwing pitches that the batter knows is coming, to the greatest possible level just look at knuckleball pitchers.)

When I played, on one of the teams I played for, our best pitcher was a guy who could rarely throw even an 85 mph fastball. He was a great pitcher because his control was incredible and he knew (with the catcher's help) where to throw it and when to throw it to that spot.

What hasn't been mentioned is the aspect of any sport that takes place "between the ears" and that is something that is incredibly underrated and often overlooked with baseball. That is also an area where baseball is much more difficult than hockey (though I don't know if such a category was used in that poll, it would be tough for anyone to accurately rank such things except for sports they have played themselves).

HudsonGator
11-10-2012, 12:49 PM
So anyway, hockey would be a pretty cool sport to add.

GATOR_4Life
11-10-2012, 01:01 PM
SEC doesn't play hockey (or a even, in Florida, more viable Men's Soccer) so we don't play. I love Hockey, but it isn't going to happen.

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 01:02 PM
So anyway, hockey would be a pretty cool sport to add.

So anyway, as has been mentioned several times, UF has a hockey team and has had one for quite a while.

jd
11-10-2012, 01:09 PM
Ah, hd you misunderstood my post. Correct response from a hockey player would have been " I don't skate with my head down" but should you come into the zone with your head down, I would mist definetly nuke your a$$. :-D

jsc28
11-10-2012, 01:14 PM
We aren't adding any Mens sports due to Title IX, but if we did I think it would be lacrosse.

hd80dun
11-10-2012, 02:01 PM
Ah, hd you misunderstood my post. Correct response from a hockey player would have been " I don't skate with my head down" but should you come into the zone with your head down, I would mist definetly nuke your a$$. :-D

That was one of the many points that I said your post blew but I wasn't going to bother pointing out. :wink:

bakaduin
11-10-2012, 06:52 PM
I hate that we can't add men's sports due to Title IX but it is reality. WIth all the talent in Florida I think we would field a hell of a competitive Men's soccer squad if given the chance.

Juggernautz
11-11-2012, 04:35 AM
I would prefer a Lingerie team.