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LoyalGatorFan
11-05-2012, 09:31 PM
Hey fellow NBN's...I am sooo pumped for this bkb season to start, as I am every year....this year could be interesting...if we can gel and play great D which I think most know we are capable of, I can see us making a FF run...if we don't play to our potential and/or have a down year shooting the ball, we could be out first weekend...should be a fun ride....

Hopefully we get our season off on the right foot this weekend...can anyone on here give us a quick lowdown of Gtown as far as who they lost, who they have coming back, and any big time recruits...I know they won 23 or 24 games last year and got to the 2nd round of MM...I also know that Porter kid is a stud but other than that, nothing else....

UFSECKINGS
11-06-2012, 03:53 AM
Haven't heard much about them in Pre-season. They're usually long & athletic, Princeton offense.

UFSECKINGS
11-06-2012, 03:57 AM
I did find this. G-Town replaces their top 3 scorers.

http://www.bigeast.org/tabid/435/article/238290/-BECountdown-Georgetown-Hoyas-Men-s-Basketball-Preview.aspx

themistocles
11-06-2012, 03:48 PM
According to that article, typical College Basketball - have to replace more than one key player.

Admittedly, your three leading scorers is tough. But that was the Gator's situation in 2006, so who knows.

The Thompson's always recruit athletic players who play every minute for what it's worth.

They are always a tough game, even in an off year (which this may well not be).

REM08
11-06-2012, 05:03 PM
They're not good this year. I think I saw them projected 8th in the Big East and Lunardi has them as an 8 seed - fwiw. Still though, who knows what can happen when the game is being played on a ship in 45 degree weather. I think you guys win easy.

tupacbiff
11-06-2012, 06:14 PM
"lunardi has them as an 8 seed". Dumber words have not been spoken. Might as well cite a random person on the street of Auckland, nz for there opinion of georgetown.

LoyalGatorFan
11-06-2012, 06:31 PM
Well REM I hope you are right but apparently today Prather got another concussion in practice so we won't have him for this game....hopefully it won't affect us much....

Ahab
11-06-2012, 07:24 PM
So this game is only on NBCSports channel? That sucks!

Crono139
11-06-2012, 07:49 PM
So this game is only on NBCSports channel? That sucks!

But we get to listen to Stan Van Gundy.

hoyahooligan
11-07-2012, 02:19 PM
Georgetown was picked to finish 5th in the BE this year. The Hoyas are under the Radar but make no mistake this team will be in the top 25 sooner rather than later. The Hoyas return what is essentially 3 out of 6 starters since Otto Porter only started a couple games but played more minutes than a starter Nate Lubick who also returns. We also return starting PG Markel Starks. The hoyas will start a very tall line up that could give Florida's 3 guard offense trouble.

Hoyas will start:
Markel Starks 6'2" JR PG
Greg Whittington 6'8" SO SG
Otto Porter 6'8" SO SF
Nate Lubick 6'8" JR PF
Mikael Hopkins 6'9" SO C

Off the bench Hoyas have:
6'5" SO Guard Jabril Trawick
6'3" FR Guard D'Vauntes Smith Rivera Top 50 recruit
6'7" FR SF Stephen Domingo Top 50 recruit for 2013 who skipped last year of high school to enroll early
6'9" RS SO C Moses Ayegba tore ACL last year.
7'0" FR C Bradley Hayes who we beat you out for.

Hoyas played lots of zone last year and were a terror on defense 7th best in the nation and 1st at defending 3 pointers. It's going to be cold and the out door arena will make it difficult to shoot on the ship.

2gator2
11-07-2012, 08:07 PM
"lunardi has them as an 8 seed". Dumber words have not been spoken. Might as well cite a random person on the street of Auckland, nz for there opinion of georgetown.

Half of my enjoyment of NBN is seeing your random bouts of anger. The other half is the scintillating discussion, of course.

UFSECKINGS
11-08-2012, 12:19 AM
Thx Hoya, G-Town is big... Gonna need Scotty's size at the guard. Less Rosario, IMO

InstiGATOR1
11-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Thx Hoya, G-Town is big... Gonna need Scotty's size at the guard. Less Rosario, IMO

I can see why Donovan might think of going with Young, Murphy and Yeguete in the game at the same time. If he does it, it would probably be in the second half if all three stay out of foul trouble.

dalwood13
11-08-2012, 01:55 AM
I can see why Donovan might think of going with Young, Murphy and Yeguete in the game at the same time. If he does it, it would probably be in the second half if all three stay out of foul trouble.

It would be very difficult to use such a lineup, not only because of the limitations offensively, but because we have no depth behind them. Especially now, with Prather out.

NorthCaptivaGator
11-08-2012, 05:48 AM
It would be very difficult to use such a lineup, not only because of the limitations offensively, but because we have no depth behind them. Especially now, with Prather out.

I'm thinking WY is going to surprise some people with his offense this year

swampgas44
11-08-2012, 07:41 AM
I'm thinking WY is going to surprise some people with his offense this year

I agree. :yes:

dalwood13
11-08-2012, 09:19 AM
I'm thinking WY is going to surprise some people with his offense this year

He may be much better offensively but he is not a jump shooter. He can not take someone off the dribble. He is not a great playmaker for others. These are things our offensive system requires from a successful 3. Will Yeguete has a much different skill set.

don23lucia
11-08-2012, 10:02 AM
I dont think we ever even offered Hayes, and this is a whole new year you dont have to justify why you think Georgetown will be good the games tomorrow and we will see just how good both teams are at that point. Playing zone D is good since UF is generally considered a certified zone buster.

This game wont make or break anyones season, but I think it will be a good game.



Georgetown was picked to finish 5th in the BE this year. The Hoyas are under the Radar but make no mistake this team will be in the top 25 sooner rather than later. The Hoyas return what is essentially 3 out of 6 starters since Otto Porter only started a couple games but played more minutes than a starter Nate Lubick who also returns. We also return starting PG Markel Starks. The hoyas will start a very tall line up that could give Florida's 3 guard offense trouble.

Hoyas will start:
Markel Starks 6'2" JR PG
Greg Whittington 6'8" SO SG
Otto Porter 6'8" SO SF
Nate Lubick 6'8" JR PF
Mikael Hopkins 6'9" SO C

Off the bench Hoyas have:
6'5" SO Guard Jabril Trawick
6'3" FR Guard D'Vauntes Smith Rivera Top 50 recruit
6'7" FR SF Stephen Domingo Top 50 recruit for 2013 who skipped last year of high school to enroll early
6'9" RS SO C Moses Ayegba tore ACL last year.
7'0" FR C Bradley Hayes who we beat you out for.

Hoyas played lots of zone last year and were a terror on defense 7th best in the nation and 1st at defending 3 pointers. It's going to be cold and the out door arena will make it difficult to shoot on the ship.

ReggieNelson
11-08-2012, 10:18 AM
lol nate lubick is such a bum

otto porter is probably the most talented player on either team. they struggle with turnovers, too bad wilbekin is out bc their pg play is spotty as best.

they will be relying on many fresh/soph to make a significant year-over-year jump.

gatordd
11-08-2012, 10:33 AM
Sucks Scottie is out

NorthCaptivaGator
11-08-2012, 11:16 AM
He may be much better offensively but he is not a jump shooter. He can not take someone off the dribble. He is not a great playmaker for others. These are things our offensive system requires from a successful 3. Will Yeguete has a much different skill set.

Who said anything about Will playing the 3?

hoyahooligan
11-08-2012, 11:49 AM
I dont think we ever even offered Hayes, and this is a whole new year you dont have to justify why you think Georgetown will be good the games tomorrow and we will see just how good both teams are at that point. Playing zone D is good since UF is generally considered a certified zone buster.

This game wont make or break anyones season, it think it will be a good game.

You're right you hadn't offered Hayes.

Hoyas were the #1 in the nation at defending the 3pt shot last year so good luck trying to shoot us out of the zone especially outdoors on a ship.

gulfgator
11-08-2012, 12:35 PM
They're not good this year. I think I saw them projected 8th in the Big East and Lunardi has them as an 8 seed - fwiw. Still though, who knows what can happen when the game is being played on a ship in 45 degree weather. I think you guys win easy.

No one really knows if "They're not good this year". They replaced three starters. yes, but other than that, you or no one else knows how "good" they are. For me, i'll watch some of the season, before deciding who's good or not, conference projections often times mean sqaudoosh.

RD_gator
11-08-2012, 01:59 PM
You're right you hadn't offered Hayes.

Hoyas were the #1 in the nation at defending the 3pt shot last year so good luck trying to shoot us out of the zone especially outdoors on a ship.

Thanks for the breakdown of your team. Last season, Florida was one of the top 3-pt shooting teams in the nation (Kenny Boynton & Murphy both shot over 40% from 3pt-range). Florida gave both Big East teams, Louisville & Marquete, fits in the second week of the NCAA tourney & also played Syracuse/Rutgers close on their home floors so the Gators certainly have some experience playing some teams from your conference. Florida returns seven players from that team but the Gators seemed to have lost both their PG (Scottie Wilbekin) & their SF (Casey Prather to a second concussion this week) for this game against Georgetown.

Fourth year starter Kenny Boynton will probably switch over to PG, perhaps Mike Rosario will play SG and at SF, the Gators may have to use either a true freshman (Michael Frazier) or Will Yuguete. Florida will have to rely upon some of their other freshmen for back-up duty: PG Braxton Ogbueze (top 50 ESPN player), SG Graham Dillon, & Devon Walker.

In the post, it should be a good duel between UF's Patric Young/ Erik Murphy/Will Yuguete against G'town's Otto Porter & company. Florida will try to break the zone by passing the ball inside to their PF near the FT line: the 6'10" Murphy is an excellent passer & he will need to make good decisions when UF passes the ball inside. Florida played Syracuse's zone tough but they were missing Murphy when they played the Orangemen last year. This should be a good game; the weather conditions could make it tough on both teams - it could be windy & the temperature could dip in to the 40s late in the game! They should have played this game in the daytime.

RD_gator
11-08-2012, 02:05 PM
Georgetown was picked to finish 5th in the BE this year. The Hoyas are under the Radar but make no mistake this team will be in the top 25 sooner rather than later. The Hoyas return what is essentially 3 out of 6 starters since Otto Porter only started a couple games but played more minutes than a starter Nate Lubick who also returns. We also return starting PG Markel Starks. The hoyas will start a very tall line up that could give Florida's 3 guard offense trouble.

Hoyas will start:
Markel Starks 6'2" JR PG
Greg Whittington 6'8" SO SG
Otto Porter 6'8" SO SF
Nate Lubick 6'8" JR PF
Mikael Hopkins 6'9" SO C

Off the bench Hoyas have:
6'5" SO Guard Jabril Trawick
6'3" FR Guard D'Vauntes Smith Rivera Top 50 recruit
6'7" FR SF Stephen Domingo Top 50 recruit for 2013 who skipped last year of high school to enroll early
6'9" RS SO C Moses Ayegba tore ACL last year.
7'0" FR C Bradley Hayes who we beat you out for.

Hoyas played lots of zone last year and were a terror on defense 7th best in the nation and 1st at defending 3 pointers. It's going to be cold and the out door arena will make it difficult to shoot on the ship.


Will Georgetown really use a 6'8" SG? Wow!
I wonder if Florida will try to press the Hoyas!

hoyahooligan
11-08-2012, 02:21 PM
yes we will. He can defend any position on the court. He is an excellent perimeter defender. Here's a link to a CBS article naming him one of the best defenders in the nation. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/storylist/20512719/7/2012-13-college-basketball-previews/cbssportscom-best-defenders He shot 35.7% from 3 last year but 44% from the beginning of BE play onwards. He has a pretty good handle especially for someone his size. There is concern about press, but the best way to beat a press is by passing. Porter often will come back to help break the press.

It's going to be a close competitive game. Can't wait!

dalwood13
11-08-2012, 08:10 PM
Who said anything about Will playing the 3?

Someone posted about playing a lineup with Young, Murphy and Yeguete playing together to match up with Georgetown's size.

I replied saying that this lineup would have limitations offensively, plus would make rotations difficult to work without Prather.

You replied to my post saying that Yeguete would be a pleasant surprise offensively.

I replied to your post agreeing that he could be, but that his skill set does not apply to playing the 3 in our system, which my reason for saying a lineup with all three of Young, Murphy and Yeguete in the game simultaneously would have limitations.

If your trying to say Murphy would play the 3, he skill set is almost equally inapplicable to playing the 3 in our system.

NorthCaptivaGator
11-08-2012, 11:16 PM
Someone posted about playing a lineup with Young, Murphy and Yeguete playing together to match up with Georgetown's size.

I replied saying that this lineup would have limitations offensively, plus would make rotations difficult to work without Prather.

You replied to my post saying that Yeguete would be a pleasant surprise offensively.

I replied to your post agreeing that he could be, but that his skill set does not apply to playing the 3 in our system, which my reason for saying a lineup with all three of Young, Murphy and Yeguete in the game simultaneously would have limitations.

If your trying to say Murphy would play the 3, he skill set is almost equally inapplicable to playing the 3 in our system.

if we were to have those three on the floor together than, yes, either murph or will would be ill suited for our traditional 3 offensively though I would expect murph at the 3 on offense with Will guarding the opposite 3

StrangeGator
11-09-2012, 04:22 PM
if we were to have those three on the floor together than, yes, either murph or will would be ill suited for our traditional 3 offensively though I would expect murph at the 3 on offense with Will guarding the opposite 3

That makes the most sense with those three and I don't know if there's any getting around it with Georgetown's size, unless one of our freshmen is able to handle the position on both ends of the court. Not saying this will be the starting group, but I think we'll see them out there together for extensive stretches. Murphy might be better suited for the three than he's given credit for. He's got a bit of Chandler Parsons in him.