Hearns

[dohcvtecpower]

What up with James Hearns planning two visits to tOSU?

[axer13]

heard that also I don't like that he's planning on going twice but he seems like a really solid commit so I wouldn't be too worried since we stuck with him through the ACL injury so that's gotta help a lot.

[UFFL]

If he flipped, this would be one of the biggest recruiting slaps in the face of all time

[stomp_and_chomp]

If he flipped, this would be one of the biggest recruiting slaps in the face of all time

Not really... I can think of other examples that are way worse. I am skeptical at this point, I think he has a small chance to flip, but I think it's _highly_ unlikely. Though, tOSU only has 1 WR committed, what happens when Urban offers Taj Williams and Reggie Davis? I don't think that will happen either, but hey, stranger things have happened.

Edit: He also had a big night. 3 INT's... 1 called back tho, but still, 2 INT's from a LB any day is a win.

[DieAGator]

If he visits twice he's looking.

By the way, I have been using Scout to look up prospects/commits/rankings and all of a sudden my links resolve at foxsportsnext.com. Do not like.

[stomp_and_chomp]

If he visits twice he's looking.

By the way, I have been using Scout to look up prospects/commits/rankings and all of a sudden my links resolve at foxsportsnext.com. Do not like.

Ya. I am not a scout fan, nor have I ever been. But I am hearing that scout sucked so bad that it's now been merged to foxsports to kind of give it a "reboot"... but if all they are doing is dropping that scout name, then its going to be met with more failure. They need competent writers and site organizers.

[LAGatorDoc]

Per Zach A: Hearns 80-90% committed to Gators, only looking at Ohio State. Coaches ok with him going to look at tOSU

http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/13791/hearns-80-90-percent-committed-will-visit-ohio-state/

[mfpardnor2]

After seeing Columbus in January he'll be 100% to UF

[DieAGator]

They need competent writers and site organizers.

I didn't read forums there, only used the database, which was the best in the business. I had "commits, search, prospects" links saved on Firefox toolbar. So with a couple clicks I could easily get to info about a prospect, review another team's commits, and review other team's past classes.

This new site seems to scream "pay or ----- off".


After seeing Columbus in January he'll be 100% to UF I hope so but sometimes if you fall in love you overlook certain things that come back to haunt when it is too late. But yeah, hopefully January and their obnoxious fan base will make him miss home before he makes that mistake.

[FloridaxGators1]

Urban, Mcmallian, Powell and now Herns? Why the obsession with our recruits?

[stomp_and_chomp]

Urban, Mcmallian, Powell and now Herns? Why the obsession with our recruits?

They're all from Florida. Urban isn't dumb, he knows he's tapped into the pipeline... Expect him to be a threat for any recruit here on out. Most of Louisville's team, under Charlie Strong, is filled with Florida kids. tOSU is a bigger pull, so I will say the names they pick up will be bigger. They already have one of our best in-state talents in Joey Bosa.

Team's like Florida, FSU, Miami and to a lesser extent USF, UCF, FIU, etc., will _always_ fill most of their roster with Florida kids. That will never change. But I wouldn't count out teams who are lead by coaches who have made a mark in Florida. Strong has done a great job to recruit Florida and get a lot of talent... but I think Meyer will be more precise and calculating... he'll go after BIG names in the years to come, he just won't fill up on them as most of his roster will be coming from Ohio and Michigan.

What WE have going for us now is the ability to not only recruit from Florida, which is already heavily contested between UF, FSU, Miami, USF, Alabama, LSU, Georgia, etc. etc. etc., but we can also go into places like Georgia, The Carolina's, and even to the West Coast to pull talent from other programs.

[MadduxFanII]

I assume Meyer sees the same thing in Hearns and some of our other guys that Muschamp did. You know, that these guys are good players. Coaches like good players. Good players win games. Wins let coaches keep their jobs.

[UFFL]

I assume Meyer sees the same thing in Hearns and some of our other guys that Muschamp did. You know, that these guys are good players. Coaches like good players. Good players win games. Wins let coaches keep their jobs.

Flawless execution

:)

[GatorNorth]

After seeing Columbus in January he'll be 100% to UF

They're football players, not sun bathers.

[gatormoe1]

Let Hearns go play for that soft football team Meyer uses.

Come to Florida if you wanna play real men football.

[Nicho]

We would squash OSU like a rotten cantaloupe right now.

[risktaker]

Let Hearns go play for that soft football team Meyer uses.

Come to Florida if you wanna play real men football.

I'm sure glad our coaches don't have your attitude.

[gatormoe1]

I'm sure glad our coaches don't have your attitude.

Please reference the part of my post where I said I do not want Hearns, thanks.

[mfpardnor2]

They're football players, not sun bathers.

How many Top 25 teams are from North of the Mason-Dixon Line???

[Tebowism0823]

They're football players, not sun bathers.

Stupid comment. Dont be naive to believe weather doesn't play a factor.

[your_perfect_enemy]

Please reference the part of my post where I said I do not want Hearns, thanks.

Not only that but I'm pretty sure what you said is almost the exact philosophy of the coaches.

[DealWithIt09]

Ya. I am not a scout fan, nor have I ever been. But I am hearing that scout sucked so bad that it's now been merged to foxsports to kind of give it a "reboot"... but if all they are doing is dropping that scout name, then its going to be met with more failure. They need competent writers and site organizers.

Actually the Florida Gatos scout site has the best competent writers that I have seen so far in Higdon and Redman.

[GATORAZ]

Typically I just ignore these thread because most kid are solid but I am actually a little worried about Hearns and McMillan. I dont think McMillan would go that far away from home but Hearns is interesting for a few reasons. The main reason is Urban is desperate for LB's against Indiana OSU started Zack Boren the fullback at LB. When Urban is desperate he will do damn near anything to reel in a recruit.

[LAGatorDoc]

Typically I just ignore these thread because most kid are solid but I am actually a little worried about Hearns and McMillan. I dont think McMillan would go that far away from home but Hearns is interesting for a few reasons. The main reason is Urban is desperate for LB's against Indiana OSU started Zack Boren the fullback at LB. When Urban is desperate he will do damn near anything to real in a recruit.

But if we get Anzalone, are we still worried??

[GATORAZ]

But if we get Anzalone, are we still worried??

we havent got him yet and yes I would like to for us to hold on to Hearns

[UFFL]

What's going on with McMillan?

[stomp_and_chomp]

What's going on with McMillan?

Nothing really.

All of our LB's are being targeted because just about every program needs one or a few.

I wouldn't bet on any of them parting ways with us. If anything, we add Anzalone.

They've all pretty much said that they are taking advantages of free trips... nothing more. No need to worry here.

[richardtangeman]

January visit might be bad "weather" for OSU; but its proximity to LOI signing is bad time for UF

[GATORAZ]

Nothing really.

All of our LB's are being targeted because just about every program needs one or a few.

I wouldn't bet on any of them parting ways with us. If anything, we add Anzalone.

They've all pretty much said that they are taking advantages of free trips... nothing more. No need to worry here.
yeah I dont think McMillan is going to leave us and I do believe he is just going for a free trip. Hearns talking about scheduling multiple trips to tOSU scares me a little because we know how Meyer gets when he is desperate.

[stomp_and_chomp]

yeah I dont think McMillan is going to leave us and I do believe he is just going for a free trip. Hearns talking about scheduling multiple trips to tOSU scares me a little because we know how Meyer gets when he is desperate.

Yes, and although I love Urban... he is totally the type of guy to tell someone ANYTHING they need to hear to get them on board. Remember when he told Sharif Floyd that he had a dream where he was meant to coach him?? I do. Very thankful for that too! ^_^

[bearshark]

The thought of losing sends Ur in esophageal spasms.

[GATORAZ]

Yes, and although I love Urban... he is totally the type of guy to tell someone ANYTHING they need to hear to get them on board. Remember when he told Sharif Floyd that he had a dream where he was meant to coach him?? I do. Very thankful for that too! ^_^

lol at me loving Urban. The man did some great things at Florida but he needed to go. As of right now Urban would send Nicki on a date with a recruit if it could land him a LB

[MadduxFanII]

Remember when he told Sharif Floyd that he had a dream where he was meant to coach him?? I do.

I remember that rumor going around rival boards and Floyd saying it never happened.

[stomp_and_chomp]

lol at me loving Urban. The man did some great things at Florida but he needed to go. As of right now Urban would send Nicki on a date with a recruit if it could land him a LB

Hrmmm, not so sure he _needed_ to go, but I'll miss him none-the-less. He's just experiencing recruiting difficulties that may plague him for years. I, at least, will always be a fan... I mean, Alabama LOVES Nick Saban, even though we all know that dude is a snake. I guess what I am trying to say is, Urban was OUR snake, and a very efficient one, cramming 12 seasons worth of awards, accolades, ace recruits and titles into 4 seasons.

[GATORAZ]

Hrmmm, not so sure he _needed_ to go, but I'll miss him none-the-less. He's just experiencing recruiting difficulties that may plague him for years. I, at least, will always be a fan... I mean, Alabama LOVES Nick Saban, even though we all know that dude is a snake. I guess what I am trying to say is, Urban was OUR snake, and a very efficient one, cramming 12 seasons worth of awards, accolades, ace recruits and titles into 4 seasons.

I dont wish the man any ill I defend him on here all the time. Just think it was time for him to go. I think the program needed a new voice and message. And he is about to do very well at tOSU especially on the recruiting trail.

[stomp_and_chomp]

I dont wish the man any ill I defend him on here all the time. Just think it was time for him to go. I think the program needed a new voice and message. And he is about to do very well at tOSU especially on the recruiting trail.

I feel ya. I think he still pulls in some big targets, but he just won't be the dominate force he once was... but then again, win a national title and I am sure he'll have kids jumping on his bandwagon from all over the nation. Realistically though, I think he is far off from another national title.

[Tebowism0823]

Meyer wont win a title there. He's not the same Meyer he once was.

[GATORAZ]

I feel ya. I think he still pulls in some big targets, but he just won't be the dominate force he once was... but then again, win a national title and I am sure he'll have kids jumping on his bandwagon from all over the nation. Realistically though, I think he is far off from another national title.

I think he a a shot at getting back to the title but will lose to the SEC

[Itssaul]

I think he a a shot at getting back to the title but will lose to the SEC

Only bc his conference is dirt poor

[Tebowism0823]

^^^exactly

[MadduxFanII]

So we're pre-emptively denigrating and explaining away Meyer's success at Ohio State. This is perversely impressive.

[Tebowism0823]

So we're pre-emptively denigrating and explaining away Meyer's success at Ohio State. This is perversely impressive.

I'm definitely not trying to do that. I just dont believe he has the same fire and ambition that it takes to compete at a high level. I could be dead wrong though.

Ps. Steelers suck :)

[GATORAZ]

So we're pre-emptively denigrating and explaining away Meyer's success at Ohio State. This is perversely impressive.

he can coach and he will win a lot of games

[your_perfect_enemy]

lol at me loving Urban. The man did some great things at Florida but he needed to go. As of right now Urban would send Nicki on a date with a recruit if it could land him a LB

I've got some eligibility left and big 10 speed, where do I sign up?

[StrangeGator]

So we're pre-emptively denigrating and explaining away Meyer's success at Ohio State. This is perversely impressive.

Not to mention impressively perverse.

[DieAGator]

It's not like Meyer took a step up in competition. He literally couldn't do it at UF year after year, it was killing him... so he led us to believe. He's going to be happier there now. He does have the chance to never play an SEC team for a NC. He doesn't need a Tebow and Harvin anymore, just needs to beat mediocre teams, campaign for his team, hope the chips fall in his favor.

[StrangeGator]

It's this simple with Meyer. He was too sick to coach in 2010 and he tried to delegate. It didn't work so he resigned so he could take time off to manage his health, but there's no way he would retire. I don't know if he had the OSU job in his sites all along, but there was an opening there. He would have been a fool not to take it. He would have been a fool not to have set himself up for it like he did. Most of us would have done the same thing.

[UFFL]

It's this simple with Meyer. He was too sick to coach in 2010 and he tried to delegate. It didn't work so he resigned so he could take time off to manage his health, but there's no way he would retire. I don't know if he had the OSU job in his sites all along, but there was an opening there. He would have been a fool not to take it. He would have been a fool not to have set himself up for it like he did. Most of us would have done the same thing.

He did great things while he was here. He handled his exit very poorly, and his re-entry into college football even more poorly.

[DeBigLeezard]

Regarding the above post:

I don't think that more could have been said... with less...

[Tebowism0823]

He did great things while he was here. He handled his exit very poorly, and his re-entry into college football even more poorly.

Truth!

[elrongator]

Ahhh to hell with Meyer.
His team cheated their ass off and can't play for squat because they are cheaters.
His conference is weak and that's what he wanted. Way to follow the yellow streak road Urbie. Bowden part deux...wish you'd left sooner rather than just cashing a check in Gainesville while player discipline and coaching went out the window.

[woltes]

All I know is Florida has a coach BOOM now and he's going to be a good one. You would be hard pressed to find another coach who has as much fire as BOOM! I'm not going to say he's going to be the best coach FLorida has ever had becuase it's to early. I will say I would not be surprised if that happend. I think he will be at Florida for a long time.

[stomp_and_chomp]

Ahhh to hell with Meyer.
His team cheated their ass off and can't play for squat because they are cheaters.
His conference is weak and that's what he wanted. Way to follow the yellow streak road Urbie. Bowden part deux...wish you'd left sooner rather than just cashing a check in Gainesville while player discipline and coaching went out the window.

So what are your thoughts on the '06 and '08 Championships? Not trying to call you out or anything, I am just legitimately curious.

[Tebowism0823]

So what are your thoughts on the '06 and '08 Championships? Not trying to call you out or anything, I am just legitimately curious.

I think his point was more focused on the way he went out and to the program he went to. I'm sure he appreciates the titles.

[DieAGator]

So what are your thoughts on the '06 and '08 Championships?

Tell you mine, sort of. On one hand I think Tebow, Harvin, Dan Mullin. OTO, Meyer brought us those guys. It's worth recognizing Meyer's just as much a beneficiary of those winners as we fans.

I'll say this though, the 2006 SECCG vs Arkansas is as good a game as I've ever seen in person, perhaps one of the great SECCGs yet. Meyer and co were unreal that game. Chris Leak got off, Percy got off, the team was brilliant. Meyer looked like he and Mullen were making decisions real-time trying to win the game. It was just unbelievable.

[stomp_and_chomp]

I think his point was more focused on the way he went out and to the program he went to. I'm sure he appreciates the titles.

I understand, I'm just thinking if we never got Meyer at all, Where would the program be?? I'm sure we would have done fine... but fine as in maybe an (1) SEC championship? Tough to say. I know he didn't handle his exit well, and I honestly believe he would have sat out for awhile after leaving Florida... But honestly, who saw Tressel ever being fired from Ohio St.? I think that was the only job Meyer would have jumped for, and he did, because he is an Ohio native.

[stomp_and_chomp]

Tell you mine, sort of. On one hand I think Tebow, Harvin, Dan Mullin. OTO, Meyer brought us those guys. It's worth recognizing Meyer's just as much a beneficiary of those winners as we fans.

I'll say this though, the 2006 SECCG vs Arkansas is as good a game as I've ever seen in person, perhaps one of the great SECCGs yet. Meyer and co were unreal that game. Chris Leak got off, Percy got off, the team was brilliant. Meyer looked like he and Mullen were making decisions real-time trying to win the game. It was just unbelievable.

I think this is why it rubs me the wrong way when people drop a paragraph of straight Meyer bashing. I went to a lot of those games, and for the most part, were some of the best, most fun, games I have ever been to.

And having possible scenario's of Tebow going to Bama or Harvin staying up North... scary!

And a lot of our guys that are producing this year were from Meyer's last class.

But what it really comes down to is, he doesn't hurt us by going to Ohio St. and we are better off with Muschamp. :joecool:

[DeBigLeezard]

Stomp said:

"But what it really comes down to is, he doesn't hurt us by going to Ohio St. and we are better off with Muschamp."

Wow... how true!

[giantgator09]

It's this simple with Meyer. He was too sick to coach in 2010 and he tried to delegate. It didn't work so he resigned so he could take time off to manage his health, but there's no way he would retire. I don't know if he had the OSU job in his sites all along, but there was an opening there. He would have been a fool not to take it. He would have been a fool not to have set himself up for it like he did. Most of us would have done the same thing.

For what its worth, multiple players have told me that he had his eye on the Penn St job planning to take over for Joe Pa until that scandal broke. Then OSU conveniently got in trouble and he found another seemingly perfect opportunity.

He was setting himself up to come back, we all knew that even though we didn't want to believe it. Just heard him say on ESPN he hopes the Gators win it all this year though.

Just food for thought.

[DieAGator]

I think this is why it rubs me the wrong way when people drop a paragraph of straight Meyer bashing. I went to a lot of those games, and for the most part, were some of the best, most fun, games I have ever been to.

And having possible scenario's of Tebow going to Bama or Harvin staying up North... scary!

And a lot of our guys that are producing this year were from Meyer's last class.

But what it really comes down to is, he doesn't hurt us by going to Ohio St. and we are better off with Muschamp. :joecool:

I doubt Meyer wins another NC at Ohio State. Once he is "humbled" more of us will be able to give him his due credit for bringing the right elements together to win us two NCs. I suspect Meyer recognizes the tremendous contribution to his legacy Tebow/Harvin/Mullen made. It's probably that over time once it looks like he couldn't have done it without UF/Tebow/Harvin/Mullen many of us will get over our feelings of betrayal. Heaven forbid he wins another NC up there though.

[The_Graygator]

Not to mention impressively perverse.

Or imperverssively pressive. Either way. :wink:

[The_Graygator]

If there was anyone else in this class I feared we could lose, it was Hearns with him being right up there in the midst of nolie territory.

I'm not sure he'll jump ship though. There's a small chance, But I'd say the odds are a lot better for UF that he sticks to the Gators. He's looking at early PT at UF anyway.

[Speedofsand]

Why is he visiting OSU Jan 11th?

James Hearns, a 4-star out of Tallahassee committed to Florida, was expected to play in this one but will miss the game due to a quad injury. He was thought earlier this fall to be a possible flip for Ohio State. And while an Ohio State visit January 11th is still in the cards for Hearns, he tweeted as recently as yesterday that he's still looking forward to being a Gator. We'll have to see what Kerry Coombs has to say about those plans.


James Hearns ‏@JamesHearns21
Its crazy.. The next football helmet I put on will be a Florida gator helmet
10:03 AM - 29 Dec 12

[gator7_5]

Why is he visiting OSU Jan 11th?


He's never seen snow?

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Yeah, it's never a good thing when a committed prospect takes a January visit to Columbus. Meyer is as good as it gets with high school seniors. I don't care what Hearns tweets about, this won't be over until he signs.

[GATORAZ]

tOSU will get two LB commits this weekend I would not worry about James. James will also visit Florida on the 18th.

[rserina]

James will also visit Florida on the 18th.
That is key. If a Florida commit takes his last visit to Gainesville, indications are pretty good he sticks.

[StrangeGator]

He's never seen snow?

He might be disappointed. Don't know what's up in Columbus, but there is virtually no snow in here in Chicago. We've yet to have more than a fraction of an inch fall. If Columbus weather this weekend is anything like it is in Chicago, Hearns will be anxious to get back home. It is cold and bleak. Lows are in the teens. The sun has not been out in days. The midwest in the winter is just ugly without snow, nothing but dead grass and leafless trees.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

He might be disappointed. Don't know what's up in Columbus, but there is virtually no snow in here in Chicago. We've yet to have more than a fraction of an inch fall. If Columbus weather this weekend is anything like it is in Chicago, Hearns will be anxious to get back home. It is cold and bleak. Lows are in the teens. The sun has not been out in days. The midwest in the winter is just ugly without snow, nothing but dead grass and leafless trees.

Hopefully he doesn't run a razor blade across his wrist while he's up there.

[ametcalf]

^^haha.....we're not worrying about osu recruiting...we're just worrying about our kids making it back alive.

Cold weather just sucks to play in. You smack your hands on a facemask and you'll quickly be singing a different toon. One comparable to a small child crying..ha

[UGator]

I guess the days are gone when a player chose a school they loved from childhood and wanted to represent on the field.

The John Theus family in JAX (John played at Bolles) used to love the Gators, but John's older bro (marginal player) either didn't get an offer from UF or chose the Dawgs for earlier playing time? John then committed to them also. So much for loyalty or playing for their long time favorite school.

We need Hearns and hopes he told Muschamp he just wants some fun time away but is solid to UF and won't let Meyer change his mind. However, 17-18 yr. olds flip for the strangest things sometimes, so his taking visits is a concern.

I don't trust a commitment unless it's 100% and no other visits will be taken! Even then, buyer's remorse can affect a player at the last minute. How about those guys in the last class who flipped the last week and on NSD?

[Tebowism0823]

I guess the days are gone when a player chose a school they loved from childhood and wanted to represent on the field.

The John Theus family in JAX (John played at Bolles) used to love the Gators, but John's older bro (marginal player) either didn't get an offer from UF or chose the Dawgs for earlier playing time? John then committed to them also. So much for loyalty or playing for their long time favorite school.

We need Hearns and hopes he told Muschamp he just wants some fun time away but is solid to UF and won't let Meyer change his mind. However, 17-18 yr. olds flip for the strangest things sometimes, so his taking visits is a concern.

I don't trust a commitment unless it's 100% and no other visits will be taken! Even then, buyer's remorse can affect a player at the last minute. How about those guys in the last class who flipped the last week and on NSD?

I'm ok with a player taking trips while committed. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity and they've worked hard for it. It's basically sightseeing for them so let them enjoy it.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I'm ok with a player taking trips while committed. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity and they've worked hard for it. It's basically sightseeing for them so let them enjoy it.

A prospect should take all five of his visits. I would never bang for depriving a kid of seeing what's out there. Even if he grows up a Gator, has family that went to UF, and can't picture himself being anywhere else, I'd STILL encourage him to see what else is out there. There may be better opportunities out there than what Gainesville has to offer. You only get that opportunity once.

Just do all that before you throw the word "committed" around. These coaches are constantly trying to squeeze 25 hours of work into a 24-hour day, trust that a "committed" prospect is going to keep his word (that's what a "commitment" is), and relies on that kid's word to fill a need. So, when a coach thinks he has three linebacker spots filled early in the summer, then deals with one or two prospects backing out a month before signing day, well...that's not right. Now all the other top prospects that you backed off of are down to just a couple of schools, and it's hard to get into the mix with any of them. So, now you're scrambling to find "fillers".

Coaches have gotten smart, though. They can sense who really is on board; and know who really isn't all that firm. They were honest with Powell about recruiting other prospects, and there was nothing wrong with that.

Take all your visits, enjoy the process, and have fun with it. Just don't commit to a school, give everybody your word that you're going to be on campus, and then decide in January that you want to take all your visits. It's not right.

[gator7_5]

A prospect should take all five of his visits. I would never bang for depriving a kid of seeing what's out there. Even if he grows up a Gator, has family that went to UF, and can't picture himself being anywhere else, I'd STILL encourage him to see what else is out there. There may be better opportunities out there than what Gainesville has to offer. You only get that opportunity once.

Just do all that before you throw the word "committed" around. These coaches are constantly trying to squeeze 25 hours of work into a 24-hour day, trust that a "committed" prospect is going to keep his word (that's what a "commitment" is), and relies on that kid's word to fill a need. So, when a coach thinks he has three linebacker spots filled early in the summer, then deals with one or two prospects backing out a month before signing day, well...that's not right. Now all the other top prospects that you backed off of are down to just a couple of schools, and it's hard to get into the mix with any of them. So, now you're scrambling to find "fillers".

Coaches have gotten smart, though. They can sense who really is on board; and know who really isn't all that firm. They were honest with Powell about recruiting other prospects, and there was nothing wrong with that.

Take all your visits, enjoy the process, and have fun with it. Just don't commit to a school, give everybody your word that you're going to be on campus, and then decide in January that you want to take all your visits. It's not right.

That's a great theory and in a perfect world it would work. But what if the school you are favoring is filling up fast? Sometimes you have to pull the trigger early to get your spot. There are only a handful of players who can wait till february and select any school they want.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

That's not necessarily true, and coaches will almost always hold a scholarship for a player they truly want.

Look, the word "commit" doesn't mean anything these days. A divorce rate of nearly 50% of couples in this country means that half the people that say "I do" at the altar do it in vain. And no, that's not comparing apples to oranges. The value of giving somebody your word has diminished, and recruiting is merely a reflection of what goes on around us. The media actually encourages prospects to pull off bizarre stunts on signing day, and coaches get screwed when committed prospects put another hat on their head on signing day.

I'll put my soapbox away, and I'm not saying anything else about this. It's just a joke sometimes.

[gator7_5]

I agree with that. Just like life, nothings firm until the paper is signed. I've had plenty of clients commit to a project and end up signing with another company.

[ametcalf]

true story

anyone not guilty of changing their minds might indeed be Jesus...and I'd like for you to turn my water into wine.....I mean, options! Recruiting reminds me of sales....and I love it!!

[NoahBeanBizzel]

true story

anyone not guilty of changing their minds might indeed be Jesus...and I'd like for you to turn my water into wine.....I mean, options! Recruiting reminds me of sales....and I love it!!

I'm not GOD. :wink:

[newdad]

If he flips, we flip one back. We will get ours. I do believe he is solid though.

[ametcalf]

I'm not GOD. :wink:

...maybe not, but you're Noah!! :wink:

[ametcalf]

I do hope Hearns sticks w/ UF. I think he's going to be an outstanding MLB!

[GATORAZ]

OSU cancelled his visit

[UFFL]

OSU cancelled his visit

sweet

[bleedorangeblue]

OSU cancelled his visit

Glad to hear it. But I will say that Meyer did pretty good at the LB position with Johnson and Mitchell. Unfortunately, Meyer is putting a great recruiting class together.

[GATORAZ]

Glad to hear it. But I will say that Meyer did pretty good at the LB position with Johnson and Mitchell. Unfortunately, Meyer's putting a great recruiting class together.

They are good players I like out LB's better. Meyer is pulling in some great talent I really like Jalen Marshal. OSU is going to have an even better recruiting year in 2014.

[LAGatorDoc]

They are good players I like out LB's better. Meyer is pulling in some great talent I really like Jalen Marshal. OSU is going to have an even better recruiting year in 2014.

Hopefully so will we.

[GATORAZ]

Hopefully so will we.

we will DB Duke Dawson commits to Florida this week

[LAGatorDoc]

we will DB Duke Dawson commits to Florida this week

Yup, on the 8th... Valentine may go though, he's only a soft commit an looking at Louisville and others again. Bronson was impressive

[GATORAZ]

Yup, on the 8th... Valentine may go though, he's only a soft commit an looking at Louisville and others again. Bronson was impressive

he was always still looking

[619_Gator]

They are good players I like out LB's better. Meyer is pulling in some great talent I really like Jalen Marshal. OSU is going to have an even better recruiting year in 2014.

Our LB class is excellent. McMillan, Hearns, and Rolin knock the crap out of people. Jarrad Davis has good size and comes from a good program in GA. Haven't heard much about him .

[GATORAZ]

Our LB class is excellent. McMillan, Hearns, and Rolin knock the crap out of people. Jarrad Davis has good size and comes from a good program in GA. Haven't heard much about him .

The staff picked Jarrad Davis over Trey Johnson is all you need to know.

[gatorchamp27]

The staff picked Jarrad Davis over Trey Johnson is all you need to know.

I think this was a wise choice anyway

[GatorAvatar]

What's next for Hearns now, gotta hurt to be rejected by Ohio State

[619_Gator]

What's next? He's been a UF commit all year. So, next he will sign with UF and be on campus in the fall. He said he is done and 150% committed to Gators.

[LimeyGator]

Our LB class is excellent. McMillan, Hearns, and Rolin knock the crap out of people. Jarrad Davis has good size and comes from a good program in GA. Haven't heard much about him .

I have little basis for saying this but my gut feeling tells me we are going to look back at this LB group in 5 years and wonder how on earth we got them all in the same class.

Saw a Tweet suggesting that with Jelani going pro, McMillan may get a shot as a starting true freshman!

People, we might desire a Montravious Adams or whomever on the line to round off our gauging at the Recruiting Dinner Table, but if we step back and look at our LBs and DBs in this class.... OOoooooh MMmmmmyyyy!

[atlantagator86]

According to Zack, Hearns is no longer visiting OSU and is "150% committed to the Gators".

[ametcalf]

"150%" - this is beautiful!! Hearns is BEAST!!

Absolutely agree that this LB and DB class is somethin' else...in a special way!!

[LAGatorDoc]

Hard to believe UM would have Hearns be a backup plan to Trey Johnson, but I guess he looks at ESPN recruiting numbers way more than our coaches.

[ArtDeco]

So AZ, can I make my "Hitman Hearns" gameday sign yet?

[austingator]

Never under estimate Urban when it comes to recruting. If he gest him on a visit, then he has a chance.

[619_Gator]

Never under estimate Urban when it comes to recruting. If he gest him on a visit, then he has a chance.

OSU cancelled the visit

[LAGatorDoc]

Never under estimate Urban when it comes to recruting. If he gest him on a visit, then he has a chance.

UM canceled Hearns' visit after he got Trey Johnson.

[GatorAvatar]

What's next? He's been a UF commit all year. So, next he will sign with UF and be on campus in the fall. He said he is done and 150% committed to Gators.

Why did he want to go to OSU.

[619_Gator]

He's an 18 year old High School kid who wanted to check out one of the top Football programs in the country? Just a guess..

[gatormonk]

The staff picked Jarrad Davis over Trey Johnson is all you need to know.

Don't they play different positions?

[DieAGator]

Why did he want to go to OSU.

Because they have a coach you respect and admire.

[StrangeGator]

Why did he want to go to OSU.

Maybe because the last LB OSU recruited from Florida is having a great career there. It's not my favorite school, but the way people talk about here, you'd think it was f$u. It's a pretty nice campus, a very good school and they did win a few games this year.

[Gator4Christ]

I have little basis for saying this but my gut feeling tells me we are going to look back at this LB group in 5 years and wonder how on earth we got them all in the same class.

People, we might desire a Montravious Adams or whomever on the line to round off our gauging at the Recruiting Dinner Table, but if we step back and look at our LBs and DBs in this class.... OOoooooh MMmmmmyyyy!

Nice one... can nearly be said for all positions, excellent recruiting pull. And now with Joker in the mix, go get 'em

[The_Graygator]

"150%" - this is beautiful!! Hearns is BEAST!!

Absolutely agree that this LB and DB class is somethin' else...in a special way!!

Nolies still mad we took him out of Tally too.

[Gatorrick22]

ametcalf

Default "150%" - this is beautiful!! Hearns is BEAST!!

Absolutely agree that this LB and DB class is somethin' else...in a special way!!


Nolies still mad we took him out of Tally too.

Me too. He's going to be a beast on the field.... at BHGS.

[GatorJeff]

me too. He's going to be a beast on the field.... at BHGS.

Big, fast, smart and aggressive. He's going to be a great one for us.

[StrangeGator]

Still listed as a soft commit on some sites. Does he need to firm up, or did he have permission to take visits?

Still don't like the term "soft" commit. I prefer "flaccid." That's make 'em think twice about being indecisive.

[GATORAZ]

Still listed as a soft commit on some sites. Does he need to firm up, or did he have permission to take visits?

Still don't like the term "soft" commit. I prefer "flaccid." That's make 'em think twice about being indecisive.

strange are you the one always reading scouts and talking about "strong or soft verbal"?

[StrangeGator]

strange are you the one always reading scouts and talking about "strong or soft verbal"?

Rarely visit their site, but I probably did a drive by in the last week. Mostly rely on 247, Rivals and espn. 247 also lists commits as either hard or soft but they don't change a kid's status just because he takes a couple of visits. I think the last time I posted anything on this issue was around signing day last year because we had so many commitments who were up in the air near signing day. That's when I first suggested the use of "flaccid."

[UGator]

I guess I've been around long enough to see player after player, who loved UF their entire lives, go someplace else because of a particular coach or early PT or whatever.

We used to have rosters full of loyal players who would never play anywhere else but UF. But today, too many recruits commit and then visit other schools---they say for the fun trips--but too many switch and leave us in a bind.

Meyer and Saban are great recruiters, and any of our commits who visit OSU or Bama or any other SEC school would be in jeopardy to lose, no matter how cold it is elsewhere.

Any of our commitments will be beseiged by other SEC coaches who want to cherry pick and win them over, as we do theirs. It's just the way this recruiting mindset is going these days. Can we really expect a 17-18 year old to be mature and experienced enough to commit and keep their word without our continuous attempts to keep them committed?