Big weekend for visitors

[dailydoublecat]

Impressive list of visitors wow. You guys have Randle, Hill, Towns, and Dakari Johnson. Billy D and staff doing work. Good luck guys!!

[Bullgator40509]

Thanks! Hopefully the visits will go well:)

[GatorPlanet]

Huge weekend for both football and basketball recruiting. Rock the Swamp, Gators!

[jshaas]

Anyone spot the recruits last night?

[themistocles]

The Gators continue to have one recruiting advantage over Kentucky, and that is that while Kentucky always has one of the worst football teams in the Nation, Florida over the past 30 years or so frequently has one of the better ones, which tends to bring recruits of all types to major games.

[dailydoublecat]

We should just shut down the football program at UK. Im sure the bball visitors enjoyed the pigskin.

[LoyalGatorFan]

We should just shut down the football program at UK. Im sure the bball visitors enjoyed the pigskin.

You're not the only UK fan I have heard say that lol....but congrats on getting the Harrison brothers...those 2 going up against Hill and Walker should make for some exciting battles in the coming years...hopefully we can land at least 1 of Randle, parker, Embid, or Johnson....I would be ecstatic with any of those to go with Hill and Walker

[ugaGator]

You're not the only UK fan I have heard say that lol....but congrats on getting the Harrison brothers...those 2 going up against Hill and Walker should make for some exciting battles in the coming years...hopefully we can land at least 1 of Randle, parker, Embid, or Johnson....I would be ecstatic with any of those to go with Hill and Walker

Well, if we get Johnson, Hill and Walker might already be gone before Johnson gets to campus...

[g8tr82]

I was at the UK-MSU game yesterday, less noise than an Opera, no atmosphere at all.

[GatorLurker]

I am not a football fan at all, but I did watch much of the LSU/UF game yesterday after coming home from Orlando on a trip to see folks that I consult with about engineering stuff.

I was impressed.

Can Billy D give the same message that winning in the trenches is the way to win games to players that were "the $h1t" in HS? I hope so.

At the next level it is even more important. Would MJ even be in the conversation about being the GOAT if he hadn't put in the effort to improve his D? To me that makes him in the conversation and probably at the top spot.

[regurgigator]

We should just shut down the football program at UK. Im sure the bball visitors enjoyed the pigskin.

At most colleges with big-time sports programs, profits from football help subsidize other sports. Does basketball subsidize football (and other sports) at UK?

[twodaparty]

At most colleges with big-time sports programs, profits from football help subsidize other sports. Does basketball subsidize football (and other sports) at UK?

They (uk) steal money from the SEC in the sport that makes the money for the conference (football) and spend it disproportionately on the only sport they care about (basketball). I really wish we would kick kentucky out of the SEC as they are just leaches and have a slimeball cheating coach in the one sport they care about. I actually respected them when they had OTS who did it the right way without cheating.

[jeffphillips21]

At most colleges with big-time sports programs, profits from football help subsidize other sports. Does basketball subsidize football (and other sports) at UK?

I've heard that UK football still brings double the money in that basketball does, despite the huge disparity in quality

[twodaparty]

I've heard that UK football still brings double the money in that basketball does, despite the huge disparity in quality

See my post this is true. They mooch off SEC football revenues and get their equal share they contribute squat to, and put it into basketball! Boot them please!

[don23lucia]

I've heard that UK football still brings double the money in that basketball does, despite the huge disparity in quality

Its more than that, i have to find the article.

[Brandongator]

i dont think booting the SECs best B Ball team would be helpful for the SEC in the world of College Basketball. When Bama wins the MNC and Kentucky wins the B ball National Title its only good for the SEC IMO. I hate Kentucky in basketball but i appreciate what they do for the SEC in terms of respect in the basketball world

[twodaparty]

^^ boot them it's a simple economic decision. They take more money from the conference than they make for us. They belong in the big 10 anyway. Football is what drives revenues and profits for our league. Always has always will. And Florida is the best basketball program in the SEC since Billy D has arrived. And we do it the right way, so I can hold my head high saying that.

[kellgator]

Booting UK from the SEC is the dumbest thing I've ever heard if you love basketball. If there was no UK in the SEC we'd probably have a lot more conference titles, but they wouldn't mean squat from a national perspective. Our 2 (sometimes 3) games against UK each year are must see national TV events. You can't buy that kind of pub. If UK left, all SEC teams would suffer as result. Don't get me wrong, I dislike Cal as much as anyone, but he'd still get the same recruits whether UK was in the SEC or not. I would argue that UK leaving would hurt our recruiting.

[dailydoublecat]

So back to the title of the thread--how did the visits go? Trust me if we got rid of football at UK I wouldn't shed a tear. I honestly hate the sport personally!

Jeff

[jshaas]

Is like to know also

[ufgator4ever]

They (uk) steal money from the SEC in the sport that makes the money for the conference (football) and spend it disproportionately on the only sport they care about (basketball). I really wish we would kick kentucky out of the SEC as they are just leaches and have a slimeball cheating coach in the one sport they care about. I actually respected them when they had OTS who did it the right way without cheating.

If we kicked out all of the schools who have cheated in the past or are obviously cheaters at one sport or another, the SECwould be Vandebilt. One school is not a conference. And they exagerate their academic excellence, if that disqualifies them.

[themistocles]

If we kicked out all of the schools who have cheated in the past or are obviously cheaters at one sport or another, the SECwould be Vandebilt. One school is not a conference. And they exagerate their academic excellence, if that disqualifies them.

When you say that Vanderbilt exaggerates their academic excellent, exactly what do you mean?

They are an elite private AAU member, which means they spend something like 3 times as much on instructional expenditures as do public AAU schools like UF, Texas, Virginia, Illinois, Michigan, and Cal-Berkeley. This means that their students are working in a far superior learning environment, which, in fact, is the major factor in Academic Excellence from any perspective.

Do you mean something stupid like UF has more National Merit Scholars, or some other idiotic rating think like US New Does in their Moronic America's Best Colleges. All of those sorts of ratings are utterly worthless. There really is only one worthwhile rating of colleges, and that is the National Research Council's docedeciennial rating of Doctoral Programs.

So, on what is your seemingly unsupportable statement based?

[phideltdj]

I believe there are many falsehoods with regards to academic reputations through our university systems. It starts with the elite private high schools that parents pay college like tuition for their kid to attend....I believe many of those private schools artificially inflate student grades to obtain higher grades and test scores. After all, it wouldn't make sense to spend 20K a year for your kids education and they end up with a C average when they can get a C average for free at a public school. The more students that attend a prestigious university, the more money that public school can charge for enrollment. It's all big business now and when money is involved things get corrupted. Is statistics at UF that much different than a statistics class at UCF or even Harvard? Every university has professors that are difficult and some that are easy. I'm quite sure an excellent student at UF would share the same success at an Ivy league school even if they didn't have the initial scores to get admission.

[StrangeGator]

I believe there are many falsehoods with regards to academic reputations through our university systems. It starts with the elite private high schools that parents pay college like tuition for their kid to attend....I believe many of those private schools artificially inflate student grades to obtain higher grades and test scores. After all, it wouldn't make sense to spend 20K a year for your kids education and they end up with a C average when they can get a C average for free at a public school. The more students that attend a prestigious university, the more money that public school can charge for enrollment. It's all big business now and when money is involved things get corrupted. Is statistics at UF that much different than a statistics class at UCF or even Harvard? Every university has professors that are difficult and some that are easy. I'm quite sure an excellent student at UF would share the same success at an Ivy league school even if they didn't have the initial scores to get admission.

You can inflate grades, but you can't inflate test scores. Kids at private high schools on average do much better on standardized tests. Some of that is due to more rigorous academics and better preparation for those tests. Some of it is purely genetics and the environment their were raised in. FWIW, the majority of Vanderbilt students come from public high schools. They're in the enviable position of turning down about 75% of their applicants, most of whom are very high achievers. They don't have to cheat at anything to get those students. Vanderbilt deserves every bit of their reputation.

[InstiGATOR1]

Is statistics at UF that much different than a statistics class at UCF or even Harvard? Every university has professors that are difficult and some that are easy. I'm quite sure an excellent student at UF would share the same success at an Ivy league school even if they didn't have the initial scores to get admission.

What college sell is credentials. The reason that students go to Harvard etc is:

1. To gain a credential that has more prestige or value than a UF credential which has more prestige than a UCF credential. Part of the prestige value is due to competing against higher level competition at various schools. Thus an SEC football championship ring brings more prestige than an ACC football championship ring which has more prestige than an Ivy League football championship ring. The pecking order in academics is different of course and more school than athletic conference oriented. That is not to say some Ivy league players don't make the NFL nor that some UF students don't make it at the highest level of their area of study.

2. To network with other likely high achievers. The better the degree the more likely soe of your colleagues or former alums are around to give you a boost. This until recently put the so called directional schools at a disadvantage, but that disadvantage goes away some each year as the USF or UCF alums move up organizational ladders. Still the network you get from an Ivy can be very helpful in your career and adds to the value of the degree.