View Full Version : Preseason magazines again high on Gators
InstiGATOR1
09-24-2012, 11:37 PM
Brockway looks at what a couple of preseason mags have to say about UF. Here is the first pair:
A pair of major preseason magazines thinks Florida has what it takes to make another deep NCAA Tournament run.
Lindy’s picked Florida to finish second in the Southeastern Conference, behind Kentucky. Athlon, meanwhile, has Florida third in the SEC, behind Kentucky and Missouri.
Lindy’s ranks Florida No. 17 in its preseason Top 25. Athlon has Florida at No. 20.
Click here for the rest:
http://brockway.blogs.gatorsports.com/11630/preseason-magazines-again-high-on-gators/
rserina
09-25-2012, 12:07 AM
Nice to see Brockway back at work after a five-month vacation. I need his job.
InstiGATOR1
09-25-2012, 12:29 AM
The funny thing is that these two mags are actually down on UF compared to others and for example Lunardi's seeding.
your_perfect_enemy
09-25-2012, 10:50 AM
Nice to see Brockway back at work after a five-month vacation. I need his job.
hey now he tweeted Saturday night about how 'pathetic' it was the SID wouldn't let Dunbar come talk to reporters after dealing with the death in the family.
rserina
09-25-2012, 11:23 AM
hey now he tweeted Saturday night about how 'pathetic' it was the SID wouldn't let Dunbar come talk to reporters after dealing with the death in the family.
Ah, tweeting: where journalism meets laziness. Apparently Brockway had to check himself into the hospital and get IV fluids because of the fatigue he developed from writing the above blog post. He has joined the rest of the Sun sports staff in having a medical aversion to consistent production.
ThePlayer
09-25-2012, 11:31 AM
Oh great....Mizzou's program is making the SEC East even MORE brutal now.
Texas aTm should be in the East and Mizzou in the West.
ugaGator
09-25-2012, 12:00 PM
Pretty sure we did away with divisions in basketball...
Bullis33
09-25-2012, 12:14 PM
no more divisions correct....and 15-20 is about right....at least to start the season....and this is by far the toughest schedule ever for BD at UF on paper so we may take some lumps in OOC, but will be battled tested come March
JayCatz44
09-25-2012, 12:44 PM
Florida is at least top 5 IMO.
TheRealTejasGatorII
09-25-2012, 01:16 PM
Oh great....Mizzou's program is making the SEC East even MORE brutal now.
Texas aTm should be in the East and Mizzou in the West.
Not according to the latest SEC basketball alignment...and geography.
REM08
09-25-2012, 01:28 PM
Florida is at least top 5 IMO.
I think its hard to tell going into this year. IMO, nothing is clearly defined at the top. Its hard to even know who belongs at the top. I think, of the top 10-15 teams, SO much is going to depend on which teams click and which just don't. While this is always the case, I think its especially so this year.
I think Florida could easily be top 5, but its so hard to tell at this point because of how many question marks there are with other teams. Its also possible Florida ends up 10-15. I'd error on top 5 at this point though. Either way, this year, I don't think the difference between 1 seeds and 3 seeds is going to be all that much.
tupacbiff
09-25-2012, 02:06 PM
I thought a writer had to write something not copy and paste.
Now that he posted that I'm sure he is done with his preseason "work".
Interesting facts: brockway is German for lazy. In Finnish brockway means incompetent. Coincidence?
I think UF college of journalism should retract his diploma to save their own rep.
rserina
09-25-2012, 02:34 PM
Grading Tupac's post: Started out well, great use of linguistic pun, got a little dark toward the end. B+.
akaGatorhoops
09-25-2012, 03:04 PM
YIKES!! Tough crowd. . .
Funny thing. . . I was actually going to do a coulmn our preseason prognostications. But I think I may go in a different direction! LOL!
I did not read Brockways column, but it doesnt seem to have been well-received!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GatorRade
09-25-2012, 03:57 PM
I think its hard to tell going into this year. IMO, nothing is clearly defined at the top. Its hard to even know who belongs at the top. I think, of the top 10-15 teams, SO much is going to depend on which teams click and which just don't. While this is always the case, I think its especially so this year.
I think Florida could easily be top 5, but its so hard to tell at this point because of how many question marks there are with other teams. Its also possible Florida ends up 10-15. I'd error on top 5 at this point though. Either way, this year, I don't think the difference between 1 seeds and 3 seeds is going to be all that much.
Agreed. You never really know what you are coming in with, even with all of our returning players. Same with UK. Both have very high ceilings, in my opinion, but it's also possible that neither ends up in the sweet 16. Unlikely, but possible.
tupacbiff
09-25-2012, 05:18 PM
Speaking of possibilities it is entirely possible
Although unlikely that uk goes winless.
ufgator4ever
09-25-2012, 06:46 PM
Does someone pay brockway or is he just a social media whore, while collecting unemployment?
REM08
09-25-2012, 07:00 PM
Since there's so much Brockway talk in this thread, it's probably a good place for a question I have. Obviously he's not popular with many of you, is this something common to most/all UF fans? If so, why? Is it just the laziness or lack of original content some of you have referred to, or is there more?
Kentucky fans have a local media guy (Jerry Tipton) who is enemy number 1 when it comes to the locals I guess. Most teams seem to have "that guy." The one always searching for the negative - always looking to diminish the positive. I've followed Brockway on Twitter for a while and might have picked up on this tendency with him as well. Is this perception correct?
tupacbiff
09-25-2012, 08:19 PM
The reason Brockway is not liked is that he is embarrassingly lazy. He provides no inside insight despite being the only local beat writer. He steals story ideas from message boards. He lacks original thought or analysis. He does way too many copy and paste stories from other sites. He just is not good at his job. He does almost no work in the offseason. He does barely any work in season. He provides no information on recruiting. I would guess players hate him because they rarely talk to him. He can't be critical because that would involve original thought, which appears to be his kryptonite. should I go on?
rserina
09-25-2012, 08:51 PM
I think the frustration with Brockway reflects the absolute indifference towards Florida basketball local and regional media show. We get far more out of the national guys at places like ESPN than we ever do out of the Gainesville Sun. Just another reason why this is a terrible hoops school--even the media ignores the team. I honestly don't know how Donovan has dealt with being this overlooked on a regular basis.
GatorLurker
09-25-2012, 09:35 PM
We get far more out of the national guys at places like ESPN than we ever do out of the Gainesville Sun.
With the Sun we get more info on what is currently on the Sports Editor's Ipod than anything hoops related.
If the ink wasn't so heavy you could use the Sun for wrapping fish. I still get it delivered every day, but I that is just inertia on my part. And doing my part to keep the delivery driver employed.
MadduxFanII
09-25-2012, 10:20 PM
I think the frustration with Brockway reflects the absolute indifference towards Florida basketball local and regional media show. We get far more out of the national guys at places like ESPN than we ever do out of the Gainesville Sun. Just another reason why this is a terrible hoops school--even the media ignores the team. I honestly don't know how Donovan has dealt with being this overlooked on a regular basis.
Without attempting to defend Brockway at all, it's worth acknowledging that there's likely a supply and demand dynamic at play here. UF's a football school and the fanbase demands more football than basketball news. By a rather tremendous amount, I suspect. Newspapers aren't exactly awash in resources these days, and many of them have to tailor their coverage to those subjects that they know will draw eyes to the website and the paper.
Of course, there's probably a chicken-and-egg issue here, where media coverage could also drive demand, so...I don't know.
tampajack1
09-25-2012, 11:45 PM
I thought a writer had to write something not copy and paste.
Now that he posted that I'm sure he is done with his preseason "work".
Interesting facts: brockway is German for lazy. In Finnish brockway means incompetent. Coincidence?
I think UF college of journalism should retract his diploma to save their own rep.
Another interesting fact: tupacbiff in both German and Finnish means "full of ****".
gatormoe1
09-25-2012, 11:57 PM
I have no idea who this is but heres another top 25. He has UF @ 11.
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/09/21/sheridan-hoops-college-preseason-top-25/
your_perfect_enemy
09-26-2012, 08:31 AM
With the Sun we get more info on what is currently on the Sports Editor's Ipod than anything hoops related.
If the ink wasn't so heavy you could use the Sun for wrapping fish. I still get it delivered every day, but I that is just inertia on my part. And doing my part to keep the delivery driver employed.
I hate dooleys ipod update as much as the next guy, but sadly that is where I learned Ben Folds Five got back together. So after 2-3 years he accidently informed me of something.
Gator_Tom66
09-26-2012, 09:22 AM
Without attempting to defend Brockway at all, it's worth acknowledging that there's likely a supply and demand dynamic at play here. UF's a football school and the fanbase demands more football than basketball news. By a rather tremendous amount, I suspect. Newspapers aren't exactly awash in resources these days, and many of them have to tailor their coverage to those subjects that they know will draw eyes to the website and the paper.
Of course, there's probably a chicken-and-egg issue here, where media coverage could also drive demand, so...I don't know.
Brockway doesn't write any football stories. So if he earns a salary, it is money wasted. If he is paid by the word, then I guess it is an ok deal for the Sun.
rserina
09-26-2012, 10:56 AM
Without attempting to defend Brockway at all, it's worth acknowledging that there's likely a supply and demand dynamic at play here. UF's a football school and the fanbase demands more football than basketball news. By a rather tremendous amount, I suspect. Newspapers aren't exactly awash in resources these days, and many of them have to tailor their coverage to those subjects that they know will draw eyes to the website and the paper.
Of course, there's probably a chicken-and-egg issue here, where media coverage could also drive demand, so...I don't know.
Oh, I think that is completely fair. But one would assume that if you are a hoops writer, then you must have at least enough of an interest in your craft and enough of a travel budget to make some trips to a tournament or two where Florida prospects are playing or maybe just do a few recruiting phone calls. One of the reasons print media is dying has to be the absolute laziness of journalists who essentially produce on a scheduled publication basis rather than on a story basis. Look at the internet sites and you will find dozens of guys putting up Gator hoops stories at a higher rate than Brockway, and even they are behind the more prominent basketball programs.
gatormoe1
09-26-2012, 11:46 AM
I hate dooleys ipod update as much as the next guy, but sadly that is where I learned Ben Folds Five got back together. So after 2-3 years he accidently informed me of something.
Thank you.
rserina
09-26-2012, 12:20 PM
BFF is back together. Nice.
Tim85
09-26-2012, 01:45 PM
BFF is back together. Nice.
I'm not so certain it's very nice. Some bands shouldn't be reunited. The '90s has come and went.
gatormoe1
09-26-2012, 01:51 PM
I'm not so certain it's very nice. Some bands shouldn't be reunited. The '90s has come and went.
Their new album is already out, its pretty good considering what your point is. I agree with you but they seem to have kept their magic together.
Nicho
09-26-2012, 02:07 PM
BFD.
themistocles
09-28-2012, 06:11 PM
Yeah REM, I too think you make excellent points.
Some advantages the Gators have this year are:
1 - Fewer holes to fill than most teams, and experienced proven players to fill those holes,
2 - Lost of experience, with 3 seniors, 4 juniors and 1 RS Soph returning
3 - Some likely prospects to make the squad 8-10 deep, which would be another advantage.
MJGator8104
09-28-2012, 10:31 PM
Yeah REM, I too think you make excellent points.
Some advantages the Gators have this year are:
1 - Fewer holes to fill than most teams, and experienced proven players to fill those holes,
2 - Lost of experience, with 3 seniors, 4 juniors and 1 RS Soph returning
3 - Some likely prospects to make the squad 8-10 deep, which would be another advantage.
and don't forget the two transfers who, while they can't play in games this season, will be indispensable in helping our players get better in practice.
jeffphillips21
10-03-2012, 02:35 AM
Brockway aside, I do like KB's quote at the end of the article. "Deepest team" since he's been here...
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