Lets talk OL recruiting

[risktaker]

I'm going to try not to talk about the last few years recruiting and the misses that have put us in kind of a bind on the OL. Those classes are past and I'd rather talk about what we can expect/hope for from this years class. I personally feel that the OL is the most important position for the next couple of years recruiting.

I find myself going back and forth between agony and ecstacy when thinking about the possibilities for this class. Let me also explain that I'm definitely NOT a "trust the coaches" kind of fan. I'm also not all wrapped up in recruiting rankings though and realize that the OL is a terribly difficult position to evaluate. I look more at a player's offer list because the coaches are the guys that will win or lose based on how they recruit and coach up these kids. So lets break down how the board looks. I'm going to assume that we keep all our current commitments. We have a decent class now, but we need a SPECTACULAR class this year, in terms of quality AND quantity. This class will be made or lost with a few more key players choosing UF.

Max Garcia-Guard: I count him as a recruit for this year because he's going to be a new addition to the team. I don't remember what he was ranked coming out of high school, but he's already D1 tested and I seem to remember that he was all frosh-ACC or something. I wish we didn't have to wait 2 years to see him in the Swamp.

Octavious Jackson-3 star Tackle: I just don't get this one. He definitely doesn't have the prototypical size for a tackle and we seem to be his only decent offer. So am I supposed to believe our coaching staff has noticed something no one else in the country has? He's in Georgia's back yard and they have no interest in him. What am I missing?

Cameron Dillard-3 star Guard/Center: Another 3 star that I'm torn about. He has solid size for an internal lineman and a decent offer list. It worries me that he's from Michigan and doesn't have offers from any of the regional powers. What do you all think of him?

So this is all we have locked up so far. Now on to the players that we could still land.

Tyler Moore- T:Nebraska transfer who has also done well already at the college level. I always worry about transfers, but he doesn't seem to be a problem child. There are rumors that say he's about to commit to us and others have him saying that he'd rather go back to Neb than play here.

Laremy Tunsil-5 star T: I can't believe such an immensely talented player in our backyard seems to have no interest in UF.

Trenton Brown-4 star T (JC/uga commit): Perfect tackle size, physically ready, taking him from uga could ease pain of possibly/probably losing Tunsil to them. I'm always concerned about JC Olinemen though. We've had alot of busts going this route lately. I think he's one of the best tackle options we have left that we have a legit shot at.

Kenny Lacy-4 star T: Seems a little light for a tackle and I don't see him coming all the way from AZ with so many options closer. If we get him on campus though, anything could happen. Personally he'd be a plan B option IMHO behind Moore and Brown.

Rod Johnson-3 star T: Perfect tackle size and rumor seems to be that his grades are keeping him from having a better offer list. The door might still be slightly ajar for this former GATOR commit.

Ira Denson-4 star G(f$u commit): Prototypical G size and many say he's acting more like a UF commit than f$u. He seems to be our best option a guard. We REALLY need to flip him.

David Dawson-4 star G(michigan commit): Great size and amazing offer list. Our window seems to have closed with him, but he obviously had interest and seems to have been scared off by losing his scholly. He could still end up being a NSD flip like Fowler.

Josh Outlaw-4 star G(former UF commit): Solid size and offer list. I can't remember the reasons, but that door seems to have closed (was it his choice or ours?).

Well those seem to be all the players I think we have even a remote chance with. We obviouly have a great shot to add a couple of great tackles and maybe a guard. Looking at what we have already I think it's a must that we add 2 more, but I'd probably feel more comfortable with 3, especially if a couple are transfers that will have to sit out a year. If I had to guess, I'd say we end up with Moore, Brown and Denson. I'd be THRILLED with that class and think we have pretty good chances with all 3.

What are your thoughts on how we could close? Do you honestly think I'm off base with my assesment of our commits? PLEASE give me a reason to believe (beyond "trust the coaches"). :)

[gator7_5]

Apparently, Brown has us as his new leader and UGA has cooled on him..

So I say we get Brown and Moore.

[Gator1865]

I am going to try to touch on a few of your points, but I am a little bit confused because as we stand with the recruits listed above, I firmly believe we will have the top offensive line in the SEC next year and we will be known nationally for it.

First point of reference would be Octavius Jackson. Jackson is a OL known for getting down the field in run blocking and short passing plays. When he gets down the field he is a force to be reckoned with and one of the best at his level. That being said he obviously will need some work technically with the pass protection phase, but I believe the plan will be for him to red shirt this year along with Dillard to go through the workout program and learn some more of the technical skills from Davis.

On Dillard, I believe Michigan, who I am assuming you are referring to with the "school's up there" knew that he had no interest in going there and thus did not offer, along with their plethora of top tier guys. Now I am not going to argue that he is in the same level of guys like Dawson, Tunsil, etc. but he is a solid center/OG with tons of potential that will get time to perfect his skills.

Tyler Moore will be a Gator. Tyler Moore will start. Tyler Moore will be a beast.

Tunsil will not be a Gator. We like Moore better than Tunsil. So long Tunsil.

Trenton Brown has us leading at this moment and I also believe he will be a Gator and have a big presence on this line next year. As you said he has great size to play tackle and that is where he wants to play, a major reason he is rethinking UGA.

Lacy, Johnson, Denson, and Outlaw we have either cooled on them or they have cooled on us. Don't see any in this class. But that is just my opinion.

David Dawson is an enigma that was scared away from visiting when that news leaked near FNL. His Michigan coaches then were able to talk to him and get some of their other commits to do the same. Don't see him in this class.

That being said, if we can add Moore and Brown who are ready to play day 1, I think our line could be something special next year. After those two I think the last spot will be held for someone we want rather than just getting one more OL.

[your_perfect_enemy]

How many juco o-lineman have we even brought in recently that we've had a lot of busts going that route at the position? I'm struggling to come up with any.

[lurkingator1]

I think we get Brown and Moore and with Garcia, Dillard and Jackson that's a very decent class!

[The_Graygator]

I would say we are sitting a little prettier with OL recruits right now after watching our OL the last couple of weeks really coming on.

Let's sit back and wait and see who jumps on board by NSD.

[GATORAZ]

TRUST THE COACHES. Yes the Oline is difficult to evaluate but how can you not like Florida's Oline recruiting?

Garcia- started as a freshmen has been killing it a practice CWM has mentioned him on multiple occasions even though he cant play

Dillard- 3 star on some sites 4 star on others is one of the top center recruits

Octavious Jackson- is really athletic did you watch his film or just look at his stars and offer list? A day before he committed to the Gators FSU and Alabama called his coach and tried to convince them to hold off on his commitment so they could evaluate him more. He is going to play guard. And with his athleticism he will be a good one down the road Oline is a development position. Also remember he camped with Florida so Davis & CWM has seen him up close and personal and though enough of the kid to offer him a scholarship after Dawson didnt show up.

I would rather have a battled test player in Moore than any OL recruit in the country and it looks like the Gators are going to get him. Then it comes down to Brown Dawson and Johnson any one of the 3 will do.

I dont think we will take 3 O linemen just seems like overkill with limited spots left in the class. And I dont think we take Denson. If the coaches really wanted Denson they would have already flipped him or at least had him coming on campus in the next few weeks.

[LAGatorDoc]

Also the ship hasn't sailed on Outlaw. I saw an article last night that when asked he is visiting Clemson but is still STRONGLY considering the gators...

[Gator1865]

Also the ship hasn't sailed on Outlaw. I saw an article last night that when asked he is visiting Clemson but is still STRONGLY considering the gators...

The question is, are we still strongly considering him if we add Moore and Brown. My thought would be, doubtful.

[LAGatorDoc]

Exactly... We will get who WE want

[StrangeGator]

With Garcia and possibly Moore ready to play immediately, the other OL don't need to be first or even second year contributors. They just need to be big, athletic and coachable. We'll get back on track recruiting five and high level four star OL in 2014. With a JUCO and a transfer in this class, we'll probably need to sign four or five next year.

[LAGatorDoc]

With Garcia and possibly Moore ready to play immediately, the other OL don't need to be first or even second year contributors. They just need to be big, athletic and coachable. We'll get back on track recruiting five and high level four star OL in 2014. With a JUCO and a transfer in this class, we'll probably need to sign four or five next year.

Well, except for Trent Brown if we get him since he only has 2 yrs of eligibility being a JUCO. And the fact that he is huge and strong, I think he'd be a perfect RT on our 3rd and short plays next to Halapio or Dunker.

[stomp_and_chomp]

I think we'll get Moore, but I am uncertain how prepared he'll be after sitting out a year. It would be nice to red-shirt him to give Dillman and some of the other guys on the staff some time to work with him. Plus, I don't think he counts toward the cap number for the recruits we can take this cycle, he is added in to the overall number.

I think Brown is a take at this point. He'll commit to us, no doubt, imho.

Octavius Jackson is good for depth. I don't know how well he plays, I guess we'll all see when he gets here... But I still think this is a depth scholly.

Cameron Dillard is a good OL. He can play OG or OC... I think we play him as OC.

Ira Denson is our NSD stud. We have a really good shot, I think.

Same with Derrick Dawson. We have a shot at him still. Alabama beating Michigan disenchanted some of their recruits. Any team that wants a NC should be able to beat Bama any week of the schedule.

We need more inside guys than OT's, atm. Considering we get both Brown and Moore, then I think our focus would have to shift to the inside. And if thats the case, then Denson and Dawson are our best options, them being committed to other schools or not.

[LAGatorDoc]

I think we'll get Moore, but I am uncertain how prepared he'll be after sitting out a year. It would be nice to red-shirt him to give Dillman and some of the other guys on the staff some time to work with him. Plus, I don't think he counts toward the cap number for the recruits we can take this cycle, he is added in to the overall number.

I think Brown is a take at this point. He'll commit to us, no doubt, imho.

Octavius Jackson is good for depth. I don't know how well he plays, I guess we'll all see when he gets here... But I still think this is a depth scholly.

Cameron Dillard is a good OL. He can play OG or OC... I think we play him as OC.

Ira Denson is our NSD stud. We have a really good shot, I think.

Same with Derrick Dawson. We have a shot at him still. Alabama beating Michigan disenchanted some of their recruits. Any team that wants a NC should be able to beat Bama any week of the schedule.

We need more inside guys than OT's, atm. Considering we get both Brown and Moore, then I think our focus would have to shift to the inside. And if thats the case, then Denson and Dawson are our best options, them being committed to other schools or not.

Well we got Moore and I don't see why he can't transfer in the summer semester to UF and start practicing right after Spring ball

[LAGatorDoc]

Oh and he is taking his red shirt now so he doesn't lose a year of eligibility.

[bleedorangeblue]

Octavius Jackson is going to be a beast. His current head coach is Rush Propst, the former head coach at Hoover High. Although I don't care too much for the man, I do believe he knows football. He said the only reason Jackson was not recruited harder was because of shoulder surgery Jackson had after his junior year. Propst said that Jackson was the best offensive lineman he has coached in his 32 years and if you know anything about Hoover and its success in the state of Alabama, that's saying a lot about Jackson.

[RD_gator]

What will be the projected OL (starters/back-ups) for Florida in 2013? Who will Florida lose after this season?

[RD_gator]

Two years from now, UF will still have Chaz Green, Dunker, DJ Humphries, Silberman & Thurman and the new transfers Moore & Garcia as the future offensive linemen. That makes seven OL.

Additionally, the new potential recruits: Dillaird (potential new Center?), Octavius Jackson (?G).
Perhaps UF could reel in a couple of more players here in Trenton Brown & Roderick Johnson (blocks for RB Greg Bryant) at OT. Tunsil is a long shot.

At Guard, the potential recruits could be the following:
- Joshua Outlaw,

[stomp_and_chomp]

Moore is a solid pick-up. He has to get to campus after this semester, he has to work out with the team. He has to have time to let Dillman and the other coaches to condition him. I am not really expecting him to come in and play day 1 without that.

Trenton Brown should round out this class at OT. I still believe that he'll pick UF. 100%

Cameron Dillard seems like a band-aid recruit. We need him at Center, really, but he could play Guard. I guess we'll put him wherever he is needed most.... More than likely at Center.

Octavius Jackson at Guard is nice. It's always good to have some solid guard committed when most of our other targets at that position are already committed elsewhere.

I wouldn't count on Outlaw coming back. From what I have read, there is no contact between the two... no contact since he decommitted.

Rod Johnson has a chance to jump back on, but still, I don't see that happening with us getting Moore and being in the race for Brown. His grades are still an issue.

Denson is a person we could work toward flipping on NSD.

If Derrick Dawson takes a visit to Florida, then I will say most assuredly, he'll flip.

If we are taking 5-6 OL this cycle, then I guess it would look like this:

OT - JUCO - Trenton Brown
OT - Transfer - Tyler Moore
OG - Octavius Jackson
OG/OC - Cameron Dillard

+ OG - Derrick Dawson??
+ OG - Ira Denson??

^---- That's a pretty good scenario right there. If we don't get Denson or Dawson, then we'll probably pick up the best OL available and call it a day.

Overall though, can't really complain. OL was a problem for the last few years, but I think those days are over.

[GATORAZ]

yeah I dont expect Outlaw or Denson to be in this class

[awells05]

Dont forget Garcia

[StrangeGator]

Just about done I think.

[DieAGator]

What will be the projected OL (starters/back-ups) for Florida in 2013? Who will Florida lose after this season?

Two years from now, UF will still have Chaz Green, Dunker, DJ Humphries, Silberman & Thurman and the new transfers Moore & Garcia as the future offensive linemen. That makes seven OL.


Overall though, can't really complain. OL was a problem for the last few years, but I think those days are over.

Yeah, seems like all of a sudden it looks like OL could be a strength for seasons. If current roster and class holds up we have already have 12 experienced OL 2013, 11 2014, 6 2015. Staff has plenty of time to recruit well.

Just posted this on another topic but seems to fit here.

Remaining eligibility beginning 2013 season:

67 Jon Halapio OL 6' 3" 321 RSR
72 Jonothan Harrison OL 6' 4" 299 RSR
64 Kyle Koehne OL 6' 5" 311 RSR

75 Chaz Green OL 6' 5" 310 RJR
76 Max Garcia OL 6' 4" 307 RJR*
Trenton Brown(hopefully) JR
77 Ian Silberman OL 6' 5" 303 RJR

63 Trip Thurman OL 6' 6" 323 RSO
74 Jessamen Dunker OL 6' 4" 301 SO
70 D.J. Humphries OL 6' 6" 275 SO
65 Tommy Jordan OL 6' 4" 306 RSO
Tyler Moore OL RSO

Octavius Jackson OL FR
Cam Dillard FR

By the time Jackson/Dillard are JRs they would likely be the only guys currently on roster still here. Seems like we do need that third true FR OL in this class if staff can pull it off.

[KendrellJones]

Question...can Moore or Garcia play Offensive Guard if need be?

[LAGatorDoc]

Question...can Moore or Garcia play Offensive Guard if need be?

Jason?

I think that is the position that he is currently practicing at... I don't think he is going to play tackle for us

[GATORAZ]

Question...can Moore or Garcia play Offensive Guard if need be?

Both can play guard or tackle as it looks now Garcia will start at guard and Moore will play tackle.

[LAGatorDoc]

Both can play guard or tackle as it looks now Garcia will start at guard and Moore will play tackle.

ThAnks for the clarification... I was talking about Garcia but was a little unclear

[GATORAZ]

edit..

[elrongator]

The decline of REFsu football can be directly linked to their pathetic recruiting of the OL.
I hate to say this, but we have been following that same path for the past two or three classes.
This has to be a giant priority IMO.
Plugging jucos is not the answer either.
We need to show them how fun it's going to be pushing defenses around and wearing them out with our current system.
I have always heard linemen say they prefer run blocking and taking it to a defense more than pass blocking and basically taking a pounding from defense to protect Qb all day.
Seems like we should be doing even better than we are lately.

[Gator1865]

The decline of REFsu football can be directly linked to their pathetic recruiting of the OL.
I hate to say this, but we have been following that same path for the past two or three classes.
This has to be a giant priority IMO.
Plugging jucos is not the answer either.
We need to show them how fun it's going to be pushing defenses around and wearing them out with our current system.
I have always heard linemen say they prefer run blocking and taking it to a defense more than pass blocking and basically taking a pounding from defense to protect Qb all day.
Seems like we should be doing even better than we are lately.

You don't think bringing in proven transfers is a Good idea? Should I boo Garcia and Moore? Just need direction boss.

[Nicho]

The decline of REFsu football can be directly linked to their pathetic recruiting of the OL.
I hate to say this, but we have been following that same path for the past two or three classes.
This has to be a giant priority IMO.
Plugging jucos is not the answer either.
We need to show them how fun it's going to be pushing defenses around and wearing them out with our current system.
I have always heard linemen say they prefer run blocking and taking it to a defense more than pass blocking and basically taking a pounding from defense to protect Qb all day.
Seems like we should be doing even better than we are lately.

Jucos are not the same thing as transfers, for one thing.

[The_Graygator]

Right now, I think we're doing damned well! :wink:

[risktaker]

Thanks for all the great info and perspective. Especially about jackson and dillard. This all makes sense. They seem like they both have great upside and could be solid contributors after RS years. From what ive noticed historically i seem to remember center prospects are often lower rated. Seems weird since theyre so important and having a bad one can really derail an offense.

I had no idea that garcia and moore would both be eligible to play next year. Thats SWEET!!! If we can just add one or two more top players then we will have hit a home run with this class. If we do the same thing next year, we'll be back on track and will be fine getting 3 or 4 a year.

[GATORAZ]

Dillards highlights from the first 3 games this year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTYflBAITQ

[elrongator]

I am happy to get bodies in this class, so don't get me wrong. It's just that the proven formula to success over time for building and maintaining O-line strength is a steady recruiting approach.
3-4 a year usually seems to work better than 1-2 for several years followed by 5-6 with several jucos in the mix.
Seriously, look at REFsu classes near the end of Blobby's tenure.
This is what killed them.
I am happy to welcome both Garcia and Taylor, but I want to see 3-4 true freshmen per class as an average.
To me, it's the most important position requiring depth on the field.

[ofmgator]

I think we're in good shape as long as early commits hold...especially with players already on board.

[DeBigLeezard]

I believe that our coaches have taken a long look at our offensive linemen and although they are good (some of them very good)...yet... I feel that we are not where we need to be as being a DOMINANT offensive line unit.
We now have a great Offensive Line Coach.

I personally am under the strong impression that our coaches went after the likes of Garcia and Moore because they needed to jump start our line... verses trying to bring in a bunch of freshmen.

The coaches realized that they needed experienced beef RIGHT NOW...

This will buy us time to go after and cherry pick those high-quality high school freshmen that will take a couple of years in the weight room and under our Offfensive Line Coach....to get to Muschamp's dominating style of play that he desires.

[rserina]

Yes, this is definitely a stop-gap measure because of a combination of heavy attrition the next two years (I believe eight will graduate, six of whom are contributors) and lack of prep linemen that are ready to contribute. In 2014, we will have a junior Humphries and a senior Green, then a bunch of unproven kids (Silberman, Jordan, Chandler, Dunker, Dillard, Jackson). Garcia and Moore will give you two additional upperclassmen with nice experience on their resumes. I think we need a dynamite 2014 class to secure the future, but those guys keep us stable for the next two seasons.

[GATORAZ]

Moore has three years left it just like he was in Humphries and Dunkers class.

[risktaker]

Yes, this is definitely a stop-gap measure because of a combination of heavy attrition the next two years (I believe eight will graduate, six of whom are contributors) and lack of prep linemen that are ready to contribute. In 2014, we will have a junior Humphries and a senior Green, then a bunch of unproven kids (Silberman, Jordan, Chandler, Dunker, Dillard, Jackson). Garcia and Moore will give you two additional upperclassmen with nice experience on their resumes. I think we need a dynamite 2014 class to secure the future, but those guys keep us stable for the next two seasons.

I agree completely on this. This class definitely isnt ideal for the long term, but is probably exactly what we need to get us to a dominant offense for the next couple of years. If we can close with Brown then at worst this will be a 5 player class with 3 mature guys who will be ready to contribute from day one and 2 probable redshirt candadates with high upside. We can now hold out for a final last minute stud 5 star type recruit to make it a truly special class (tunsil or the michigan kid perhaps).

Next year we're going to need another 5 player class heavy on high school talent.

[risktaker]

So we've gotten Tyler Moore since I posted this. Trenton Brown now seems to be a matter of when he will commit not if. And David Dawson has decommitted from michigan and named the GATORS his leader. Things are sure looking up. If we can close with Brown and Dawson then this would be the perfect OL class. That would give us 4 players that could provide depth next year and be battling for starting roles in their second year. Color me excited. :-)

[DeBigLeezard]

Exacto Mundo!
Everything starts and ends with those on the line.
Florida can recruit top quality skill positions all day long...
All day... (need a few more top shelf receivers, though...)

But getting top quality linemen... is the very essence... the very key to our program being successful!
In spite of losing Theus last year and perhaps Tunsil...this year....
Florida is doing very, very well with its offensive line recruiting.

[DieAGator]

If we can close with Brown and Dawson then this would be the perfect OL class. That would give us 4 players that could provide depth next year and be battling for starting roles in their second year. Color me excited. :-)

Only thing that concerns me is our OT depth. Someone could probably assuage my concerns on that but it seems like we need another HS OT.

[ofmgator]

Risktaker you're not a "trust the coaches fan" what does that make you? The number od stars means little when evaluating players. The level of competition, stats, watching potential recruits in a game, academics, character and sense of team work are some of the factors coaches use to evaluate recruits. This years recruiting class is ranked number three with a few scholarships yet to award. What do you use to make you think a recruit is worthwhile?

[DieAGator]

[i]The number od stars means little when evaluating players[i/]. The level of competition, stats, watching potential recruits in a game, academics, character and sense of team work are some of the factors coaches use to evaluate recruits. My impression is most of the time stars come from evaluations by the services who have some of those factors in mind, but that services also look to coach's evaluations in the form of offers to decide a player's value and specific rank. Services don't have the time to evaluate attitude, character, teamwork so most of the time it is on ability plus different program's interest in a player to set their position rank. But I would say most of the time stars reflect mostly on perceived talent and ability at the next level, the rest is up to staffs to decide.

[elrongator]

Since I last posted on this thread, the Gators have continued to prove their mettle on the field and that should continue turning recruits heads in our direction.
This is good. I am confident we will bolster our lines the right way and we might even be cherry picking by February of 2013!!!

[DieAGator]

Since I last posted on this thread, the Gators have continued to prove their mettle on the field and that should continue turning recruits heads in our direction.
Tend to agree. If I were an OL on the fence I would think I want to learn how to be tough and dominant if my ambition and expectation was to play at the next level.

This is good. I am confident we will bolster our lines the right way and we might even be cherry picking by February of 2013!!!
How so? We need perhaps two more OL and as far as I can tell we have a couple OGs close to committing, though we probably only take one, and likely(hopefully?) Trent Brown at OT. If a David Dawson and T Brown commit who else could we, or would we, take?

[elrongator]

That's what I meant Die,
We get to pick the cherries we like because we have a full class by NSD.
It's a good thing.

[int1974]

OT next year
Green- will start
Moore- Good chance to start
Hump- If not a starter first off the bench
Kohne- Can play both OG and OT
Garcia- unless he moves to OG
Thurman- Might be a surprise for us also can move inside
Brown- Big Man, very big

We will be fine at OT next year

[risktaker]

So we now have Garcia, Dillard, Jackson, Moore and Brown committed with all looking very solid. Garcia, Moore and Brown should be in the rotation from day one. We're still pursuing Rod Johnson, although that could change with Browns commitment. We also have the redshirt freshmen from last years class that will be available. The OL position sure has been upgraded in a big way. :-)

[Gatorrick22]

OT next year
Green- will start
Moore- Good chance to start
Hump- If not a starter first off the bench
Kohne- Can play both OG and OT
Garcia- unless he moves to OG
Thurman- Might be a surprise for us also can move inside
Brown- Big Man, very big

We will be fine at OT next year

Is Halapio done this year? :whistle:

[UFFL]

Is Halapio done this year? :whistle:

Halapio is a guard

[Gatorrick22]

Halapio is a guard

Yep., he is.

[UFFL]

That's not what I meant............ He was obviously he was left off that other posters list of starters on our offensive line.

I don't know what you mean, but I'm just going to pretend I do

[Gatorrick22]

I don't know what you mean, but I'm just going to pretend I do

It's okay if you don't. My response was to the entire offensive line...... Didn't notice the guard part.

[GatorDay2104]

We are probably done recruiting OL this year, with a hall of six. Going to be a good battle to see who starts next year.

[gator996]

It's okay if you don't. My response was to post #49.

Post #49 is about Offensive Tackles
Halapio is a Offensive Guard

...but it looks like Rod Johnson can be added to the list.

Johnson is gonna be a solid lineman for us.

My guess is that Garcia & Kohene are guards.
Moore will battle Humphries & Brown

Thurman & Johnson will #3 OTs.

[DeBigLeezard]

What is the status of Tommy Jordon and Trip Thurman?

I know these are guys that Meyer brought in but how are they progressing?
Both of them seem to have good size, especially Trip.
Any thoughts?

[MaceoP]

Risktaker you're not a "trust the coaches fan" what does that make you?



Unless you are willing or able to personally evaluate each and every recruit, how can you not trust our coaches. IMO, our coaches are far more qualified to evaluate incoming talent than a recruiting reporter. I may be in the minority, but I think it is prudent when weighing or forming an opinion on our incoming class, to give more weight to our coaches and less weight to the recruiting services.

[GATORAZ]

Unless you are willing or able to personally evaluate each and every recruit, how can you not trust our coaches. IMO, our coaches are far more qualified to evaluate incoming talent than a recruiting reporter. I may be in the minority, but I think it is prudent when weighing or forming an opinion on our incoming class, to give more weight to our coaches and less weight to the recruiting services.

Tyrone Crowder is 6ft tall OG. Fans would be going crazy if he committed to us since he is ranked a top 5 OG prospect in the country. He actually tried to commit to the staff on a junior day, but the staff said no after meeting him in person and seeing how short he was. I will trust a staff who gets paid over 5 mil a year to evaluate talent over some recruiting service.

[Gatorrick22]

Post #49 is about Offensive Tackles
Halapio is a Offensive Guard

...but it looks like Rod Johnson can be added to the list.

Johnson is gonna be a solid lineman for us.

My guess is that Garcia & Kohene are guards.
Moore will battle Humphries & Brown

Thurman & Johnson will #3 OTs.

Yes, we'll be flush with tackles.

[stomp_and_chomp]

Tyrone Crowder is 6ft tall OG. Fans would be going crazy if he committed to us since he is ranked a top 5 OG prospect in the country. He actually tried to commit to the staff on a junior day, but the staff said no after meeting him in person and seeing how short he was. I will trust a staff who gets paid over 5 mil a year to evaluate talent over some recruiting service.

Nothing to do with your quote, just wanted to get your attention on this thread, in particular...

When we got Rod Johnson on top of Trenton Brown, I thought our OL class would be done for the year....

BUT, I just read on TOS that someone on the staff was talking with Denson as recent as today. So I think there may still be a chance for us to flip Denson...

I thought for sure the door was shut on him weeks ago... but how crazy is it that now, after landing the 2 big OT's yesterday, is when we would show him the slightest little bit of attention...

Things are looking good, FSU is about to cry... Again.

[themistocles]

Tend to agree. If I were an OL on the fence I would think I want to learn how to be tough and dominant if my ambition and expectation was to play at the next level.

Of course, it is likely that at least some of the better OLine prospects might want to learn how to pass block also.

[GATORAZ]

Nothing to do with your quote, just wanted to get your attention on this thread, in particular...

When we got Rod Johnson on top of Trenton Brown, I thought our OL class would be done for the year....

BUT, I just read on TOS that someone on the staff was talking with Denson as recent as today. So I think there may still be a chance for us to flip Denson...

I thought for sure the door was shut on him weeks ago... but how crazy is it that now, after landing the 2 big OT's yesterday, is when we would show him the slightest little bit of attention...

Things are looking good, FSU is about to cry... Again.
like I said a few months ago I do not expect Ira in this class. Ira will not EE anymore so the staff might continue to talk to him just in case we have room on signing day which I also doubt.

[dadx4]

We are definately bringing in the beef....now if they can just play "as advertised"....had our offense just been half as good as our Defense we would be undefeated and playing in the MNC. This team as far as I am concerned is one of my favorites of all time.