LB James Hearns of Lincoln High School, Tallahassee FL withdraws Commitment.

[SUGator51]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xjk5ysAvYY&feature=related

Guess this was happening today as I first heard...

[Nicho]

To quote Phil Rizzuto, Holy Cow!

[gator7_5]

HOLY CRAP. We are having the best day after signing day I've ever seen. If Diggs pulls the trigger today, they need to get the guys on ESPN U back to the studio and do a special day after on the gators!

4 of the top 100 in the fold with 364 days to go. Unreal. We're already guaranteed a top 10 class with 4 kids!

[gators4life]

LOL This is crazy! Locking up the top two LB prospects in FL. Shows you how many guys have been waiting to commit. I've heard that a LOT of coaches and players are really liking this guy named BOOM.

[SUGator51]

Both these guys can really run and really hit.

Guess Andrades wasn't such a bad take after all...

[LimeyGator]

Who cares about 'closing' on all the media 'me' types if we start like this on all the quality prospects we have added so far!!

[tbullard92]

WOW !!! Possibly Davis next?

[LimeyGator]

Where does Hearn feature in ESPNU's view?

[percyharvey]

BIG!!! If another LB prospect wants to go to Florida, they better hurry up.

[SUGator51]

WOW !!! Possibly Davis next?

I wouldn't, no.

[Spiff24]

Any way I can get SUGator51 updates sent straight to my phone???? You always seem to deliver great news! =D

[GatorSurfer]

Cant find it on TOS. Which TOS?

[LeafUF]

I am liking this. I wonder if Muschamp wants to get things to where they were at Texas. Have a full class nice and early then have a relatively quiet signing day.

[villegator95]

This is AWESOME. Welcome to the gatornation guys!

[LimeyGator]

Jason Higdon just tweeted there's MORE huge news on the way. 3???

[GatorSurfer]

What site? Please?

[rjp4u]

Wow...Now that is really Brandon Spikes Part 2. Love how they go backwards after they are hit...very nice.

[GatorAce35]

HUGE HUGE HUGE!!! Both McMillian and Hearns are studs!!

[LimeyGator]

Both Higdon and Daniel Thompson have confirmed a 3rd is on the way!!!! Great day :) speculate away!

[Gatorhead]

SU folded on NSD, he ain't got no crystal ball.

[LeafUF]

Another from Lincoln according to OGGOA

[SUGator51]

SU folded on NSD, he ain't got no crystal ball.

?

[Danielmaddie]

I am liking this. I wonder if Muschamp wants to get things to where they were at Texas. Have a full class nice and early then have a relatively quiet signing day.

I would like that. Less stress on everyone

[texasgator]

Reggie Davis would be huge get, he seems to be a speedy receiver. Getting Andrades could be a huge get after all. I always though Lincoln was a Nole Territory? But, we got Quezzie as their Wr coach.

[luciaboy]

i don't remember this ever happening this early. four excellent pick ups in the last week. lets get k taylor to top it off

[Gatorhead]

?

Yanking your chain my man, appreciate the hard work you put in on this recruiting board.

[SUGator51]

Both Higdon and Daniel Thompson have confirmed a 3rd is on the way!!!! Great day :) speculate away!

lol Daniel Thompson. Please don't cite him anymore, Limey. No offense to him, but I know him, and he just gets his info from other sites and claims he's "hearing" such and such.

I've gotten a few names who it could be, but IDK who it is. But it definitely looks like there's a 3rd out there today...

[atlantagator86]

Hearns is HUGE for an OLB! 6'3" and 230 lbs! He might be ready to play right away.

And it would be nice to pull a kid like this right out of FSU's back yard.

[SUGator51]

Hearns is HUGE for an OLB! 6'3" and 230 lbs! He might be ready to play right away.

And it would be nice to pull a kid like this right out of FSU's back yard.

If I had to pigeon-hole them into spots right now, I think Hearns is a SAM and McMillan is a MIKE

[utahg8r]

Reggie Davis just tweeted that he's next in line.

[LimeyGator]

Some talk of 4 now? Blimey, using it NSD?!!

[villegator95]

Reggie Davis just tweeted that he's next in line.

Yep. Check out his offer list, dang. Today is a good day!

[HotelGM]

rpj4u... Since your karma seemed to start all this... wish for something else? Come on man!!

:)

[StrangeGator]

HOLY CRAP. We are having the best day after signing day I've ever seen. If Diggs pulls the trigger today, they need to get the guys on ESPN U back to the studio and do a special day after on the gators!

4 of the top 100 in the fold with 364 days to go. Unreal. We're already guaranteed a top 10 class with 4 kids!

Haven't seen Brantley or Lane on any of those lists yet. Not to say they won't end up there. Getting two at LB is huge.

[DoctorGator]

I would like that. Less stress on everyone

No, no, no. You don't understand. If we have 29 committed by Thanksgiving and have the consensus no. 1 recruiting class, and they all sign on NSD, the weenies among us will get their panties in a wad because we didn't close well by signing someone new on NSD. :sick:

[HotelGM]

First off, SUGator51 is the guy I look to for info.. SO leave him be. :) Also, always wondered about your handle. What is the SU for? If its not to personal....

[StrangeGator]

Reggie Davis would be huge get, he seems to be a speedy receiver. Getting Andrades could be a huge get after all. I always though Lincoln was a Nole Territory? But, we got Quezzie as their Wr coach.

Try telling Kevin Carter that Lincoln is nole territory.

[LeafUF]

Haven't seen Brantley or Lane on any of those lists yet. Not to say they won't end up there. Getting two at LB is huge.

According to OGGOA:

Though Hearns is not yet rated by either Rivals or ESPNU, he is expected to receive a four-star grade when the first official rankings are revealed. He is Florida’s fourth 2013 commitment joining ESPNU-ranked four-star McMillian, five-star defensive tackle Caleb Brantley (Crescent City, FL) and four-star running back Adam Lane (Winter Haven, FL). McMillian, Brantley and Lane are ESPNU 150 watch list players.

[PSGator66]

Great start for sure!

[Eggy21]

TajMarquis taj marquis williams
my boys jus committed @JamesHearns21 @ReggieD25 #GATOR-NATION Im next in line now
18 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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[Bradass]

Awesome. I hope these guys all stick! Muschamp and co did a GREAT job holding on to all the early commits this year with the exception of good ole Mike Davis.

[Bradass]

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Getting Reggie Davis and Taj Williams in the same day? That would be great. Talk about Lincoln becoming a UF pipeline!

Hey, anyone still want to b!tch about taking Raphael Andrades yesterday? Didn't think so.

[SUGator51]

First off, SUGator51 is the guy I look to for info.. SO leave him be. :) Also, always wondered about your handle. What is the SU for? If its not to personal....

Stetson University.

[SUGator51]

Getting Reggie Davis and Taj Williams in the same day? That would be great. Talk about Lincoln becoming a UF pipeline!

Hey, anyone still want to b!tch about taking Raphael Andrades yesterday? Didn't think so.

Bingo. All of a sudden looking like a great get.

Probably won't be a star, maybe not even a starter, but that was a very solid last-minute, Plan B take considering his love of our University, his overall character, and his effect on some very talented teammates.

[SUGator51]

,

Taj has definitely had some interesting tweets.

He's a guy you take now, IMO.

Reggie Davis? I still maintain I would be surprised if we took him this early.

[LeafUF]

Getting Reggie Davis and Taj Williams in the same day? That would be great. Talk about Lincoln becoming a UF pipeline!

Hey, anyone still want to b!tch about taking Raphael Andrades yesterday? Didn't think so.

Did people really bitch? Good thing I was too busy to be on the boards yesterday, they are becoming insufferable no matter what is going on lately.

[Gator8239]

Hope all these Lincoln kids can have an impact like the Lakeland group did.

[LeafUF]

http://c0014164.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_abbbda2

[gatorjlm]

OMG!!...that kid really brings it!! Both big hitting ILB. We are gonna look like Bama up front.

[g8r925]

yep looks more and more like Taj and Reggie are 3 and 4 today. Heck of a day after signing day for the good guys.

[tommyvee]

I'm confused. Who all did we receive verbals from today?

[Gatorhall]

Quezze (sp) is one of my favorite Gators, always remember the catch and run against Semiholes! Thought the Swamp would crumble because of the noise. It was so deafing on the sidelines it actually hurt my ears.

[sportz10]

For us who follow recruiting casually how many db's and linebackers are we going to sign for this 2013 class?

[StrangeGator]

Hope all these Lincoln kids can have an impact like the Lakeland group did.

Only two Lincoln kids I remember playing for UF ended up in the NFL, one of them in the first round before playing in multiple Pro Bowls.

[g8r925]

I'm confused. Who all did we receive verbals from today?

As of now, we have got two HUGE Lbs in McMillian and Hearns, Hearsn is a kid from Lincoln High were Quezzie Coaches, and he has two more kids in Reggie Davis and Taj Williams that may have committed to us today as well(not confirmed by the masses yet).

[The_Graygator]

SU folded on NSD, he ain't got no crystal ball.


:roll:

Hindsight is so convenient, isn't it?

SUG put his neck on the chopping block and made the calls, and from what I've noticed, you didn't. lol Not slammin' ya, just stating a fact. :angel:

Maybe a few players didn't commit late but how the heck is he supposed to know exactly what these 17 year olds are thinking or if they decide to make a last-minute switch?

Btw, he's called much of this class anyway and has been at least 80% accurate. SUG does a damned good job IMO.

[StrangeGator]

I see Williams and Davis both listed at WR. Is that where Davis is projected? Williams has a nice frame. Davis is a little on the short side. No problem with either as long as we have room for Fullwood and Coley.

[g8r925]

I think with the lack of wr's in the last couple of classes, I think we may take as many as 4 or 5 in this coming class

[The_Graygator]

Bingo. All of a sudden looking like a great get.

Probably won't be a star, maybe not even a starter, but that was a very solid last-minute, Plan B take considering his love of our University, his overall character, and his effect on some very talented teammates.

I have a buddy here in Quincy who's son has played ball with Raphael since he was 14, and anothger friend who actually went to school with him. Both have said Andrardes is a very solid get for our WR corps and that he's a lot in the same mold as Cornelious on our 2006 team was. He will run expert routes, can get open, is slippery and can break tackles, and will catch everything thrown to him.

[DieAGator]

Both these guys can really run and really hit. And they are big guys, the kind Bama and LSU would covet.

Guess Andrades wasn't such a bad take after all...

What do you mean?

[SUGator51]

And they are big guys, the kind Bama and LSU would covet.


What do you mean?

1) Yeah, we'll have four 6'3 250 lb. LBers running all over the place before long

2) People criticized taking Andrades as a "reach."

[SUGator51]

:cat::roll:

Hindsight is so convenient, isn't it?

SUG put his neck on the chopping block and made the calls, and from what I've noticed, you didn't. lol Not slammin' ya, just stating a fact. :angel:

Maybe a few players didn't commit late but how the heck is he supposed to know exactly what these 17 year olds are thinking or if they decide to make a last-minute switch?

Btw, he's called much of this class anyway and has been at least 80% accurate. SUG does a damned good job IMO.

He was kidding, but you're hired.

My percentage rate wasn't bad...could get better with Diggs (still say Florida).

[DieAGator]

2) People criticized taking Andrades as a "reach."

Yeah, I get it now, didn't realize he and Hearns were teammates. I'm pretty happy with what's going on.

[fl_champ]

I just looked at ESPN's top 100 for 2013 and saw a ton of FL prospect on the list and a large majority on that list are seriously considering the Gators. 2013 could be a serious haul for us come NSD.

[Gatorhead]

:roll:

Hindsight is so convenient, isn't it?

SUG put his neck on the chopping block and made the calls, and from what I've noticed, you didn't. lol Not slammin' ya, just stating a fact. :angel:

Maybe a few players didn't commit late but how the heck is he supposed to know exactly what these 17 year olds are thinking or if they decide to make a last-minute switch?

Btw, he's called much of this class anyway and has been at least 80% accurate. SUG does a damned good job IMO.

Relax Gray, I was just messin with SUG, he did a great job with recruiting updates and frankly was my main source this year since I am no longer on the insider board.

I didn't think we would have the big close a number of posters thought we would, it happened under Meyer and Spurrier a couple of times but usually NSD is anticlimatic.

We have a good class, a few holes too but I am already looking forward to next year.

Getting back to recruiting -- SUG please tell me the Taylor kid is a lock, thats the one I want an early commit from! Linebackers are great but we need a darn good rock totin stud on offense!!!!

[WarDamnGator]

Yeah, I get it now, didn't realize he and Hearns were teammates. I'm pretty happy with what's going on.

Hearns tweeted right after Andrades announced "I'm coming too" or something similar. There was also a third player from Lincoln with an offer who said he was going to commit with Hearns. I can't recall the name, though. The tweets were posted here yesterday.

[rjp4u]

rpj4u... Since your karma seemed to start all this... wish for something else? Come on man!!

Ok...Kelvin Taylor, Green, and Derrick Henry...and the OL from Lake City. I would love to see 5 big OL's this year...all mean with a dislike for UGA, FSU, Miami, and Bama.

[rjp4u]

Anyone know where the OL from Lake City is leaning? Has he even said anything? Wasn't that Tim Jernigan's school? Just curious...

[g8r925]

Yep the Ol kid from Lake City is Jernigan's Cousin. And he hasn't given any indication as to where he is headed.

[SUGator51]

Anyone know where the OL from Lake City is leaning? Has he even said anything? Wasn't that Tim Jernigan's school? Just curious...

UF leads...he grew up liking the Gators, lives right around the corner, and mom works at Shands. FSU will battle with us though because his cousin is Jernigan and his coach is a Nole lover.

[Gatorules]

SUG, well I guess the other two kids didn't commit. Hearing anything today?

[Nicho]

SUG, well I guess the other two kids didn't commit. Hearing anything today?

You have to think they were asked to wait until the Diggs decision.

[SmootyGator]

Only two Lincoln kids I remember playing for UF ended up in the NFL, one of them in the first round before playing in multiple Pro Bowls.

Kevin Carter 91'
Zach Pillar 94' (Went to Georgia Tech first, then transferred)

No one else?

[rjp4u]

Thanks for the information on the Lake City OL...I would be excited he is a gator lean, but so was Tim Jernigan and he ended up at FSU. I hope we get him...

What are the other OL's the Gators are in on? Any heavy leans?

[The_Graygator]

:cat:

He was kidding, but you're hired.

My percentage rate wasn't bad...could get better with Diggs (still say Florida).

I see now that he was kidding. Sorry to have railed into him like that but he didn't leave any smilies to indicate he was ribbin'. No harm done I hope.

I still think he's a Gator too.

[The_Graygator]

Relax Gray, I was just messin with SUG, he did a great job with recruiting updates and frankly was my main source this year since I am no longer on the insider board.

I didn't think we would have the big close a number of posters thought we would, it happened under Meyer and Spurrier a couple of times but usually NSD is anticlimatic.

We have a good class, a few holes too but I am already looking forward to next year.

Getting back to recruiting -- SUG please tell me the Taylor kid is a lock, thats the one I want an early commit from! Linebackers are great but we need a darn good rock totin stud on offense!!!!

Sorry to have railed on you, and I see you were kidding now, but I didn;t see a smilie in your other post and thought it was trolling. :grin:

[The_Graygator]

Heard something via e-mail from a friend in Tally that there are some nolie fans who are not happy with Jaquez Green at Lincoln. Heard that some people have complained since the Hearnes commitment to UF.

[SwampFox]

Heard something via e-mail from a friend in Tally that there are some nolie fans who are not happy with Jaquez Green at Lincoln. Heard that some people have complained since the Hearnes commitment to UF.

Poor babies..is there an address where I can send them a basket of pacifiers.?

:grin:

[gatordee]

I am liking this. I wonder if Muschamp wants to get things to where they were at Texas. Have a full class nice and early then have a relatively quiet signing day.

That is the way it is looking. It would be great if he could pull that off in Florida.

[Swamper]

Both are physical, Alabama type LBs

[LeafUF]

That is the way it is looking. It would be great if he could pull that off in Florida.

It seems harder to lock up the state in Florida than it does in Texas but its not like they don't have competition there. If we can consistently lock up 80% of our classes early with only a few waiting til the Spring and signing day that would be excellent.

[SUGator51]

Heard something via e-mail from a friend in Tally that there are some nolie fans who are not happy with Jaquez Green at Lincoln. Heard that some people have complained since the Hearnes commitment to UF.

LOL like coaches don't recruit for them. That's part of recruiting. Deal with it.

[The_Graygator]

Poor babies..is there an address where I can send them a basket of pacifiers.?

:grin:

O.k., here's the scoop so far since I got back to the house and checked my e-mail.

Apparently, there has been at least two big-time nolie alums who have called and complained to Lincoln HS officials (but they'd never admit it anyway), about Green, saying it was him that sent Hearnes and Andrades to UF. They want him o-u-t. Of course, they were told they can't even prove it was Green who actually sent them to UF, but he's guilty because he's a former Gator player.

This reminds me a lot of the numerous nolies who were business owners that threatened local Tally radio stations to stop carrying the Gators Sports Network or they'd pull their sponsorhips.

The GSN got ran out of Tally for a couple of years too until it returned to a smaller, lesser station.

[tommyvee]

As of now, we have got two HUGE Lbs in McMillian and Hearns, Hearsn is a kid from Lincoln High were Quezzie Coaches, and he has two more kids in Reggie Davis and Taj Williams that may have committed to us today as well(not confirmed by the masses yet).

Thanks, 925!

[tommyvee]

Apparently, there has been at least two big-time nolie alums who have called and complained to Lincoln HS officials (but they'd never admit it anyway), about Green, saying it was him that sent Hearnes and Andrades to UF. They want him o-u-t. Of course, they were told they can't even prove it was Green who actually sent them to UF, but he's guilty because he's a former Gator player.


From the article I read about Andrades, Quezzie actually advised him to sign somewhere other than UF before the offer came in late.

[The_Graygator]

But facts don't mean anything to nolie fans. Quezzie is a Gator, so he's automatically to blame for both Andrades and Hearnes.

Remember, we're dealing with nolie fans, who have this incredible inferiority complex when it comes to UF.

[mfpardnor2]

UF leads...he grew up liking the Gators, lives right around the corner, and mom works at Shands. FSU will battle with us though because his cousin is Jernigan and his coach is a Nole lover.
Hopefully Tim used to bully him before the growth spurt and he wants to get even as an OL for the Gators.

:grin:

[yellowboy90]

Kevin Carter 91'
Zach Pillar 94' (Went to Georgia Tech first, then transferred)

No one else?
Galvin Dickey who was a former Qb then wr but switched to baseball

[elrongator]

I am happy whatever momentum we can generate, whenever I see it so this is all good. That said, WE NEED O-LINEMEN!!!
Unlike any position on defense, runningbacks, or even wide receivers,which all rely more on athleticism than game planning and play book memorization, O-linemen take time to develop. Nobody...I mean NOBODY, comes into the SEC as a freshman on the O-line and immediately dominates. Right now we are creating a giant hole in our O-line development. With only 6 signed in three years when average of 4 per year is ideal. This is exactly what led to RefSU decline during past decade. They'd make headlines with stud LBs, and good skill position players then stumble at the O-line.
That's where it's all won and lost... In the trenches and until I see some increases there I will be sweating.

[Gatorrick22]

I am happy whatever momentum we can generate, whenever I see it so this is all good. That said, WE NEED O-LINEMEN!!!
Unlike any position on defense, runningbacks, or even wide receivers,which all rely more on athleticism than game planning and play book memorization, O-linemen take time to develop. Nobody...I mean NOBODY, comes into the SEC as a freshman on the O-line and immediately dominates. Right now we are creating a giant hole in our O-line development. With only 6 signed in three years when average of 4 per year is ideal. This is exactly what led to RefSU decline during past decade. They'd make headlines with stud LBs, and good skill position players then stumble at the O-line.
That's where it's all won and lost... In the trenches and until I see some increases there I will be sweating.

What about M. Pouncy.

[Tr3yGator]

Xavier Nixon also had a very impressive Freshman year on the O Line, but regressed after that.

[elrongator]

Neither pouncy "dominated" as freshman. Check the depth charts. They got into the rotation but didn't start and play like studs from day one.

[MadduxFanII]

I'm looking at the box score from the 2007 season opener against Western Kentucky. Here's the official, UAA-approved starting lineup from that game for the offense:


Florida

POS ## OFFENSE
LT 77 Watkins, J.
LG 63 Tartt, J.
C 67 Miller, D.
RG 56 Pouncey, Ma.
RT 73 Medder, C.
WR 5 Caldwell, A.
WR 1 Harvin, P.
WR 9 Murphy, L.
QB 15 Tebow, T.
RB 33 Moore, K.
FB 29 Rutledge, E.

You'll find Pouncey starting at right guard every game of that season, save Ole Miss.

[DoctorGator]

I'm looking at the box score from the 2007 season opener against Western Kentucky. Here's the official, UAA-approved starting lineup from that game for the offense:


Florida

POS ## OFFENSE
LT 77 Watkins, J.
LG 63 Tartt, J.
C 67 Miller, D.
RG 56 Pouncey, Ma.
RT 73 Medder, C.
WR 5 Caldwell, A.
WR 1 Harvin, P.
WR 9 Murphy, L.
QB 15 Tebow, T.
RB 33 Moore, K.
FB 29 Rutledge, E.

You'll find Pouncey starting at right guard every game of that season, save Ole Miss.

Starting and dominating are two very different things. The best true freshman OL we ever had was OT Reggie Green and he regressed to barely starting ot OG as a Sr. because of a series of knee injuries. As good as Reggie was as a freshman, he rarely dominated. Just doesn't happen.

[LimeyGator]

James Hearns ‏@JamesHearns21
I just got ejected for throwing up the gator chomp at Fsu camp"

I love this kid already!

[sbcg8r]

^^^ Made me so happy to read this!!! I love players with swagger, and Hearns, Taylor, and others in this '13 class have it.

[Gatorallstar1012]

one of the senior fsu o-lineman tweeted him back saying "have fun loosing in doak this year." Yes the guy actually spelled loosing with to oo's and 2nd off Hearns wont be on the team this year when they play at doak. Glad the education system is working out for them up there.

[Gatorbait2784]

one of the senior fsu o-lineman tweeted him back saying "have fun loosing in doak this year." Yes the guy actually spelled loosing with to oo's and 2nd off Hearns wont be on the team this year when they play at doak. Glad the education system is working out for them up there.

And 3rd we wont be "loosing" to FSU this year.

[gnvgator]

http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/files/2012/06/1Hearns-e1339948715118-300x283.jpg

“To be honest, I never thought it would blow up when I tweeted that,” Hearns said. “I was just tweeting what was going on with me. It wasn’t a big deal to me. It just got blown out of proportion. But FSU fans can hop on it and get whatever they want from it. At the end of the day, I’m going to a great college in the University of Florida and that’s all that really matters to me.”

http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/13021/hearns-ejected-from-fsu-camp-for-gator-chomp/

[deep_threat]

He's awesome

[ArtDeco]

So when can we start calling him "Hitman" Hearns?

[stomp_and_chomp]

So when can we start calling him "Hitman" Hearns?

The first time he knocks an FSUcks players helmet off.

When he does that, James "the Hitman" Hearns will be born.

[fubar1]

“To be honest, I never thought it would blow up when I tweeted that,” Hearns said. “I was just tweeting what was going on with me. It wasn’t a big deal to me. It just got blown out of proportion."

This should be the welcome message for anybody opening a Twitter account.

[sleeze]

The first time he knocks an FSUcks players helmet off.

When he does that, James "the Hitman" Hearns will be born.

Agreed

[qwghlmgator]

The first time he knocks an FSUcks players helmet off.

When he does that, James "the Hitman" Hearns will be born.

I'd be scared if I was a running back named Leonard... :dead:

[LimeyGator]

@bbournival: Big-time 2013 linebacker coming to #OhioState #Buckeyes on official visit to " give them a chance" http://t.co/7xDu3T1l

@ESPNGatorNation: #Gators LB commit Daniel McMillian plans to take official visit to Ohio State: http://t.co/8dF2z96V By @bbournival

Hmm. Not sure I like hearing about this...

[LimeyGator]

@bbournival: Big-time 2013 linebacker coming to #OhioState #Buckeyes on official visit to " give them a chance" http://t.co/7xDu3T1l

@ESPNGatorNation: #Gators LB commit Daniel McMillian plans to take official visit to Ohio State: http://t.co/8dF2z96V By @bbournival

Hmm. Not sure I like hearing about this...

Gah sorry, wrong thread... Damn you limited-functionality search tool! :-/

[johnl]

All good in the neighborhood..

[hgators]

Is he or isn't he?

[deep_threat]

I'm not really sure we should be THAT worried but we all know how urbs recruits. Nick Washington and Fulwood are gonna stay on him. Not even sure if he needs that anyway

[DieAGator]

Not worried, doubt he'll be snowed by Meyer.

[RayGator]

Go Gators!

[go82uf]

Ray, did you just wake up excited today?

[RayGator]

Ray, did you just wake up excited today?

Actually, staying up very late doing clean-up, merging dupes, reorganization etc....

[RayGator]

And now that nearly all the football games are over, and won't be doing a lot of game threads, I'll now be busy on AR trying to cleanup dupes and stuff like that! :)

Go Gators!

[Juggernautz]

Sounds like a fulltime job shuffled w\ lotsa overtime.

[gatorbait96]

Per Twitter...on an official visit.

[DuPontGator]

Cheater! I can't believe he is doing this to us!

[Gatorrick22]

Cheater! I can't believe he is doing this to us!

Free all expense payed trip with great food...... Why not?

[1gatorbear]

But it's okay when players committed to other teams visits us ? It's the nature of the beast.

[Gatorrick22]

But it's okay when players committed to other teams visits us ? It's the nature of the beast.

Yepper.

[keefer]

Free all expense payed trip with great food...... Why not?

Nope. UNOFFICIAL.

[Gatorrick22]

Nope. UNOFFICIAL.

Like I said, free food, trip and maybe even $$$$.

[fubar1]

Yesterday's news

[gatorump]

I hope he doesn't like Chick-fil-A

[Speedofsand]

Who is showing him around, Mike Blakely?

[ArtDeco]

Most of these panhandle kids end up at Alabama or Auburn. Both are closer to home.
Personally, I think it shows some cold feet about competing on an extremely high level.
Let's hope it's just a kid taking some cool trips...

[GatorJeff]

Most of these panhandle kids end up at Alabama or Auburn. Both are closer to home.
Personally, I think it shows some cold feet about competing on an extremely high level.
Let's hope it's just a kid taking some cool trips...

Hearns is from Tallahassee, closer to Gainesville than to Bama or Auburn.

[Tebowism0823]

Nope. UNOFFICIAL.

OP said official

[ametcalf]

enjoy your visit....do your thing..and then come on dowwwwnnnn. Auburn sucks!

[dawny]

Dont become Gator Bait, or the door shut soon,good luck on your visit.

[keefer]

OP said official

He changed it.

[DieAGator]

Better Auburn than georgia, Bama or fsu.

[waldosnblvw]

Who is showing him around, Mike Blakely?

I see what you did here :)

[dadx4]

Cam Newton is his host....

[superman2318]

Read somewhere else that someone we have taking visits now...is because they are going to be a grades casualty. It didnt name names though. TIFWIW.

[Gatorrick22]

Cam Newton is his host....

Isn't he taking remedial crayon 101.

[LimeyGator]

He went with teammate Taj Williams. Interesting...

[gator1986]

Free all expense payed trip with great food...... Why not?

I lived in auburn for a while, really nice town super sexy country girls... Who are DTF... Could be bad news for us with Hearns..

[Gatorrick22]

I lived in auburn for a while, really nice town super sexy country girls... Who are DTF... Could be bad news for us with Hearns..

Oh, I know how hot those 'bama girls are, you can believe that, but I doubt that's what will change his mind about not coming to UF. Besides that UF has plenty of hotties too.

He'll have to want to play there, and live there, for four whole long years.

[gator1986]

Oh, I know how hot those 'bama girls are, you can believe that, but I doubt that's what will change his mind about not coming to UF. Besides that, UF has plenty of hotties too.

He'll have to want to play there, and live there, for four whole long years.

God they're hot man and easy. Jesus when I was up there it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Lol I know about UF too, hahaha those girls are absolutely sexy! Anyways I understand living there would suck for four years, I did it for 1. They have Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Winn Dixie, piggly wiggly..

[Gatorrick22]

God they're hot man and easy. Jesus when I was up there it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Lol I know about UF too, hahaha those girls are absolutely sexy! Anyways I understand living there would suck for four years, I did it for 1. They have Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Walmart, Winn Dixie, piggly wiggly..

Damn, I thought Piggly Wigglys went extinct.

[rserina]

Damn, I though Piggly Wigglys went extinct.
I think he was talking about Saban's daughter, not the grocery store.

[Gatorrick22]

I think he was talking about Saban's daughter, not the grocery store.

Lol.......... Bam!

[gator1986]

I think he was talking about Saban's daughter, not the grocery store.

Hahaha! Correct! But seriously piggly wiggly still in business, Publix is about to wipe them out though..

[superman2318]

Hahaha! Correct! But seriously piggly wiggly still in business, Publix is about to wipe them out though..

Owners of Piggly Wiggly had a gentlemens agreement to not invade the others turf....Now that both are dead, Kids dont care so mush.

[gator1986]

Owners of Piggly Wiggly had a gentlemens agreement to not invade the others turf....Now that both are dead, Kids dont care so mush.

Actually the founder of Publix George Jenkins was a store manager at Piggly Wiggly when he was younger. He went to the corporate offices to give his input and voice opinions, they laughed turned him down. He started Publix, a company that's an open door policy company. An employee can call he CEO of the company and talk to him one on one. George Jenkins plan from the get go is to take out Piggly Wiggly, and how do I know? I worked there and we were told religiously...

[ValdostaGatorFan]

I hope he doesn't like Chick-fil-A

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n588/Jkm4au/Ammo/Chiz-Fil-A.gif

[RayGator]

Sounds like a fulltime job shuffled w\ lotsa overtime.

Yes, a lot of overtime. But as a volunteer on here that doesn't compute to more pay! I'm just a Gator who loves my Gators and GatorCountry! Just trying to do my part.

:)

[G8R8U2]

Actually the founder of Publix George Jenkins was a store manager at Piggly Wiggly when he was younger. He went to the corporate offices to give his input and voice opinions, they laughed turned him down. He started Publix, a company that's an open door policy company. An employee can call he CEO of the company and talk to him one on one. George Jenkins plan from the get go is to take out Piggly Wiggly, and how do I know? I worked there and we were told religiously...

An employee can do that as long as he's born again and doesn't have any facial hair... of course, those 2 things are practically prerequisites to being an employee in the first place.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

According to Robbie Andreu. He speculated that it appears that UF might have pulled his offer.

So, I guess that means Powell and Bower are the two prospects Florida can realistically land between now and signing day?

[LAGatorDoc]

No scholly pull, we still want him. This has been known for a while and coaches ok with it

[GATORAZ]

why do we keep making Hearns threads?

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Well, because he's now planning a bizarre visit to Kentucky. Out of nowhere. It's becoming sort of an odd situation.

[LAGatorDoc]

Well, because he's now planning a bizarre visit to Kentucky. Out of nowhere. It's becoming sort of an odd situation.

Not bizarre. Stoops knew him from FSU, now he's at UK. He said come visit me. If his grades are ok, he's ours. If not hasta la vista

[LAGatorDoc]

why do we keep making Hearns threads?

I heard Hearns picked his nose and rubbed it into the auburn jersey he was wearing. Then in good fun he peft an upper decker in the locker room toilet. Should I make a thread about it??

[elrongator]

Why all the concern with Hearns? I have seen nothing from Hearns himself to suggest he's anything but 100% Gator.
As with all our recruits, he has to make grades.
Seems like no biggie.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I heard Hearns picked his nose and rubbed it into the auburn jersey he was wearing. Then in good fun he peft an upper decker in the locker room toilet. Should I make a thread about it??

That'd be nice, but I'd much rather you start a new thread about Powell. What's going on with all that? We're screamin' for an update on him.

[Gatorrick22]

Didn't Powell just visit USCw?

[RayGator]

why do we keep making Hearns threads?

We are watching it. In a couple of days or so we will merge them.

[DieAGator]

I am glad he's visiting Auburn and Kentucky instead of serious rivals.

[Juggernautz]

Something to be said here ^^^

[UGator]

If Hearns wants to visit KY, then maybe he anticipates the competition at UF with our 5 LB recruits would be too much to bear.

If he just wants to take trips, why KY? OSU (think he went there), NEB, USC, Bama, OK or the like would be nicer trips, right?

UF has stuck with him through his knee injury but his vibes now don't show much respect for Muschamp's loyalty.

[gator996]

Don't think it has anything to do with "competition"...hearns is a mike

The most likely answer has already been posted here...

He's from Tally and the FSU DC is now head coach at UK

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Don't think it has anything to do with "competition"...hearns is a mike

The most likely answer has already been posted here...

He's from Tally and the FSU DC is now head coach at UK

There will definitely be competition for any starting job back there. Both Anzalone and Dan McMillian could easily grow into the "Mike" position(s), and both probably project to play that position. It's also expected that Morrison will slide over to the MLB spot.

It was just felt (by some) that Hearns was physically the most developed of any of the players we had coming in to compete immediately for a starting spot in the middle.

With that said, I don't know what the real reason is behind his visit(s). Somebody will give the proverbial "Boys will be boys. HE'S JUST TAKING HIS VISITS, guys." rhetoric in response to any questions anybody has insofar as why he's going to Kentucky. I get that Stoops was recently hired there, but I still find an out-of-the-blue visit to Lexington to be a bit bizarre.

[gator1986]

Powell I see ending up here... Wish we wouldn't of missed out on Daniel, or wish Daniel wouldn't of missed out on us...

[sbcg8r]

I hope youre right 1986... Powell loves USC and the thought of playing with Leonard.

[DieAGator]

Powell I see ending up here...

I don't see Powell making it to the field easily. He's listed at 190.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I don't see Powell making it to the field easily. He's listed at 190.

Not immediately, anyway. He'll likely redshirt, and he'll be on the 2 to 3-year plan. Once he fills out, he'll probably play at anywhere from 215-225. We've had plenty of guys over the years (AJ Jones, Earl Everett, Jeremi Powell, Hicks and Doe) who had to come in and gain weight before they factored into the rotation. Brooks Daniels (Jasper, Fl) was really undersized when he signed at 'Bama, yet he was one of their most productive defensive players. Jevon Kearse came to Florida as a safety. He certainly wasn't playing at 265 lbs. when he signed his LOI.

QP will be put on the PB&J sandwich program once he arrives on campus, and he'll be good to go by the time he's a RS sophomore.

[ametcalf]

Morrison needs to add about 20lbs. I'm hoping Hearns keeps his commitment. I personally believe that he could see early playing time...possibly backing up Morrison....jumping Taylor eventually. Hearns is a beast!!

[gatorbait96]

Update on Hearns:

http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/14856/hearns-address-academics-recruitment/

[revthejedi]

^I really like Hearns, it's good to know that he still considers himself a Gator commit and has a plan to pick up his grades.

[HotlantaGator]

If Hearns wants to visit KY, then maybe he anticipates the competition at UF with our 5 LB recruits would be too much to bear.

If he just wants to take trips, why KY? OSU (think he went there), NEB, USC, Bama, OK or the like would be nicer trips, right?

UF has stuck with him through his knee injury but his vibes now don't show much respect for Muschamp's loyalty.

I wouldn't go very far questioning recruits' loyalty.

Recruiting is a dog eat dog enterprise, if Muschamp did not pursue 3 or 4 or 5 LBs ranked higher than Hearns and that could improve UF that would be coaching malpractice.

You and I both want Muschamp to sign the best LBs UF can get, if Hearns is one of them great.

I must have missed the post where you criticize UF for not showing loyalty to Hearns when UF signed Anzalone and Rolin at Hearns' position.

Its unfair to hold the recruits to a standard we don't hold ourselves to.

If Hearns thinks he finds a situation that is better for him he should go for it.

[mikehev]

I hope he makes the grades and is a part of this class. He seems like the type of player that blows people out of their cleats on the field, and is a good guy off of the field. Fits in well with Gator nation IMO. Hope to see him in the O and B.

In Christ forever,
Mike
John 3:16

[NoahBeanBizzel]

I wish him the best wherever he ends up. He sounds like a great kid.

[apkgator]

^I really like Hearns, it's good to know that he still considers himself a Gator commit and has a plan to pick up his grades.

Of course Daniel said he was good to go with his grades too. The kids are not always the best source when it comes to academics.....and if it were me I believe I would be prepping for the SAT rather than going off on visits every weekend.
Don't count on this one.

[sbcg8r]

So he's taking the ACT on Feb 9th. I really wish he was taking it before Signing Day.

[UGator]

I wonder if kids on the border line academically are encouraged to either pick up their grades and do whatever is possible to be at UF, or they're told to look around for schools where they could qualify?

Maybe some privacy issues are in order so we don't know if Hearns is questionable or not, but the coaches can't talk about or disclose his grade situation anyway.

[StrangeGator]

So he's taking the ACT on Feb 9th. I really wish he was taking it before Signing Day.

Certainly he's taken it at least once during the cycle. Feb 9th is mostly for juniors. He's past the admissions deadlines for most major universities. He's probably taking it again and trying to improve on a borderline score. Low ACT scores won't always keep a kid from signing at UF. If he's taken the classes that are required and has an adequate GPA, the school will usually take the chance on a player getting a satisfactory score before he registers for class. He can be admitted, but all admissions are conditional.

[MadduxFanII]

Do we do the "sliding scale" thing, where the standardized test score we're willing to accept goes down as the student's GPA goes up, and vice versa?

[ArtDeco]

Thank God Tebow was smarter than a rock. Admissions could have potentially sent the Messiah to Alabama.

[Tebowism0823]

Thank God Tebow was smarter than a rock. Admissions could have potentially sent the Messiah to Alabama.

Simmer down troll!

[StrangeGator]

Thank God Tebow was smarter than a rock. Admissions could have potentially sent the Messiah to Alabama.

How much smarter than a rock? He had an excellent GPA but his two part SAT score was in the mid to high 900 range. If he hadn't been a football prospect, his application to UF wouldn't have made it past the front desk. That's what made Tim so great. He was always about determination, digging in to give 200% of what was inside of him. Not only did he become a great football player at UF, he was an honor student as well.

FWIW, Rex Grossman scored over a 1400, but I don't think he left UF with more than a 3.0. He was a great one, but he was not about determination. I think everyone else in his family is a med school grad.

[gator7_5]

How much smarter than a rock? He had an excellent GPA but his two part SAT score was in the mid to high 900 range.

Strange, you're stuck on his SAT score, but I'm pretty sure he took it his so. year of hs and never took it again once he had a passing score.

[magnafides]

Strange, you're stuck on his SAT score, but I'm pretty sure he took it his so. year of hs and never took it again once he had a passing score.

I can't say that I've ever heard of a "passing" SAT score before...

[gators_8]

Passing as in able to qualify..

[demosthenes]

FWIW, Rex Grossman scored over a 1400, but I don't think he left UF with more than a 3.0. He was a great one, but he was not about determination. I think everyone else in his family is a med school grad.
His dad is an optometrist if I remember correctly. One of my relatives in Indiana was a patient of his.

[StrangeGator]

His dad is an optometrist if I remember correctly. One of my relatives in Indiana was a patient of his.

Rex's sister was in med school at Northwestern while Rex was playing for UF. She used to watch games with the local Gator Club.

[StrangeGator]

Strange, you're stuck on his SAT score, but I'm pretty sure he took it his so. year of hs and never took it again once he had a passing score.

Not likely during his sophomore year. That's when you would typically take the PSAT. It's more likely that he took SAT early in his junior year. Whenever he took it, he should have known better than to think a 960 or 980 was adequate at that stage in his education. If he'd had a career ending injury, his college options would have been very limited. Smart kids take it every cycle, or until they get a perfect score.

FWIW, my son took the SAT his freshman year because it was required for the application to the Illinois Math and Science Academy. He scored just over a 1300. Not a fair comparison since he's a freak. Got a 35 on his first and only attempt at the ACT, but can barely tie his shoes. Would have made the deans list this past semester at college, but forgot to turn in his lab reports in chemistry the last six weeks, then showed up for the final the day after it was given. In purely practical terms, Tim is a lot smarter.

Only reason I fixate on standardized test scores is because they are the equalizers. GPAs reflect achievement relative to a small, fixed population in an isolated academic setting. SATs and ACTs measure aptitude "objectively" across a broader population. There are high school systems that give out perfect grades, but don't challenge them enough to excel on ACT/SAT or AP tests. My brother has taught AP history for two years and has yet to have a student score higher than a three.

There are definitely issues with the standardized test system and their undue influence in the college admissions process, especially at the high end, but they are very helpful in identifying students with deficiencies that would make it difficult to succeed in college.

[GATORAZ]

Blake Alderman ‏@MistaAlderman
Rivals 250 LB James Hearns just told me he has decommitted from #Florida

[UFFL]

Bye James

[ametcalf]

funk! that's too bad

[MadduxFanII]

Zach A says Durkin called Hearns and told James they couldn't take him with his grades.

[revthejedi]

Wow, that's disappointing. Maybe Powell see's the light and re-commits.

[Zanso]

I think we turn to Quinton Powell from here?

[stomp_and_chomp]

Zach A says Durkin called Hearns and told James they couldn't take him with his grades.

Sadface.

Was really hoping he could get his grades up. Mad props for throwing a gator chomp and getting kicked out of that FSUcks camp.

I, for one, hope he checks out Lousville. With a couple of commitments from Hearns and Hatcher, that D will look more nasty.

[gymgator]

Could he not enroll in Spring of '14 and get his grades right over the summer/fall?

[stomp_and_chomp]

Could he not enroll in Spring of '14 and get his grades right over the summer/fall?

He'd have to go JUCO for a year... but it would be a lot easier for him to go to a school that would accept his current scores. Lousville isn't bad, Strong is there to stay for awhile... with that huge new contract. He could also easily go to Marshall, WVa, USF, etc.

edit: Also, Kentucky is standing out for him with Stoops being there now.

[BobK89]

Amazing to me how these kids can squander a top flight college chance to play football because of issues with grades.

[GatorAvatar]

Boy...Muschamp not playing around.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Interesting when you think about who was "committed" early in the process at linebacker.

Lawson
Hearns
Powell
McMillian

It looks as if McMillian will be the only player that makes good on his word. Lawson couldn't maintain any self-control. Hearns couldn't get his grades in order. Powell couldn't handle three other players being brought in at his position. Recruiting is something else.

[Tebowism0823]

Boy...Muschamp not playing around.

Out of Muschamps hands.

[DeBigLeezard]

The article on the front page of GC says that Awbrin is, "... now in the driver's seat..."

Another example of how it is harder for Florida to get and keep kids in our university than those to the northwest of us.
I realize that this is a standard that THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA has set.
It just the same thing every year... the Awbrin's, Alabammy's and the FSU's other world get to choose those great defensive players that can cut the grades.

Hate it...

[MotownGator]

I take this as a positive. If we were not willing to wait to see if he will make it, we must feel good about 6-7 we want to fill all our slots.

[StrangeGator]

I take this as a positive. If we were not willing to wait to see if he will make it, we must feel good about 6-7 we want to fill all our slots.

I seriously doubt that is the case. Our admissions people pulled the plug on this one. I don't think we'll be able to replace him with comparable talent at the same position, nor do I think there are six or seven prospects left who are worth offering.

[Gatorrick22]

I seriously doubt that is the case. Our admissions people pulled the plug on this one. I don't think we'll be able to replace him with comparable talent at the same position, nor do I think there are six or seven prospects left who are worth offering.

His replacement is already enrolled.......

[DieAGator]

His replacement is already enrolled.......

Yep, gotta believe staff knew Hearns was likely to have some grade issues so they planned accordingly.

[G8R92]

Amazing to me how these kids can squander a top flight college chance to play football because of issues with grades.

You shouldn't be amazed. Most (certainly not all) athletes excel in their sport at the expense of their academics.

[phideltdj]

I don't like the fact we self-impose this criteria for admission standards and it is not an SEC admission requirement. Why would we give ourselves a recruiting disadvantage? Don't spew that garbage about academic integrity being important as we are talking about the football team and none of us could care less if Percy Harvin or Brandon Spikes could pass calculus...only if they could play ball.

[Gatorrick22]

I don't like the fact we self-impose this criteria for admission standards and it is not an SEC admission requirement. Why would we give ourselves a recruiting disadvantage? Don't spew that garbage about academic integrity being important as we are talking about the football team and none of us could care less if Percy Harvin or Brandon Spikes could pass calculus...only if they could play ball.

Calculus? Maybe if they're going to engineering school.

[MotownGator]

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

[demosthenes]

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

Because our admissions wants to ensure the athletes can endure the academic rigors. What good would it to do to allow anyone in and then have ineligible players for bowl games?

Besides, UF is currently ranked #1 and has had several top ranked and many more highly rated classes. Our admissions isn't hindering our program even if we do have to drop a player or two from consideration every year.

[Gatorrick22]

I think the point is, if we are not going to hold them to the same entrance standards as the rest of the student population, why hold them to a standard that is higher than the NCAA minimum for athletes?

I know.....was just feeling a little bit punchy. :wink:

[phideltdj]

That was my point..once the athletes are admitted the only way they fail out of school is by not attending classes. There are many paths they put the athletes on that don't require the academic rigors you mention...we all know those crip classes like exceptional people, personal growth, intro to engineering so on and so on. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking these guys are forced to take calculus and organic chem.

[atlantagator86]

Sounds like there's a good chance Quinton Powell will end up a Gator with Hearns gone.

Second, if UF gave up on Hearns, then he's probably not going to qualify at Auburn either. I don't think there's a major difference in the academic standards of the SEC schools. Chances are Auburn is going to take him as a sign-and-place.

[MotownGator]

That was my point..once the athletes are admitted the only way they fail out of school is by not attending classes. There are many paths they put the athletes on that don't require the academic rigors you mention...we all know those crip classes like exceptional people, personal growth, intro to engineering so on and so on. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking these guys are forced to take calculus and organic chem.

Exactly. Anybody remember the PG Robinson from the Michigan national champ b-ball team in the late 80s? He was a prop 48 casualty, but when he did get into Michigan, he somehow managed to stay eligible through his 3-4 years there. I would daresay UofMichigan is just as rigorous as Florida.

[ugaGator]

I don't think there's a major difference in the academic standards of the SEC schools. Chances are Auburn is going to take him as a sign-and-place.

There is a big difference.

[demosthenes]

There is a big difference.

I walked into Auburn admissions office when I was looking at colleges and they asked me to fill out an application. They took it and told me to have a seat. I thought they were getting me an acknowledgement of having received my application. I started to get antsy and tired of waiting after 10-15 minutes when they came back and said I'd been accepted. I can't imagine many other schools that lax.

[gator7_5]

Exactly. Anybody remember the PG Robinson from the Michigan national champ b-ball team in the late 80s? He was a prop 48 casualty, but when he did get into Michigan, he somehow managed to stay eligible through his 3-4 years there. I would daresay UofMichigan is just as rigorous as Florida.

Also Plex Burress.

Mich St lived on prop 48 kids from Florida in the 90's.

[atlantagator86]

There is a big difference.

For regular students, yes there is definitely a difference.

But for student athletes, I believe all the SEC schools have very similar admission standards (except maybe Vandy). The issue with UF has always been in regards to certain classes counting, particularly from out of state kids.

But I believe the athletes who have not had qualifying scores at UF, have almost always had to look at schools outside the SEC.

[RayGator]

It's my understanding that LB James Hearns has withdrawn his commitment to UF.

[SeaCay]

It's my understanding that LB James Hearns has withdrawn his commitment to UF.

Timely info... :bored:

[DuPontGator]

Timely info... :bored:

Lol

[DoctorGator]

For regular students, yes there is definitely a difference.

But for student athletes, I believe all the SEC schools have very similar admission standards (except maybe Vandy). The issue with UF has always been in regards to certain classes counting, particularly from out of state kids.

But I believe the athletes who have not had qualifying scores at UF, have almost always had to look at schools outside the SEC.

No. There is a difference in athletes, too. This is patently the case. And has been since at least the 1960's.

I'm very thankful for this. We win alot of championships with these standards.

[GatorAvatar]

It's my understanding that LB James Hearns has withdrawn his commitment to UF.

Read in the Sentinel...Durkin called him to withdraw offer :/

[atlantagator86]

No. There is a difference in athletes, too. This is patently the case. And has been since at least the 1960's.

I'm very thankful for this. We win alot of championships with these standards.

So exactly what are the differences?

I don't ever recall an athlete who couldn't qualify at UF being accepted at UGA or FSU. I know there were several that went to WVU or schools out of conference. And I recall several who became sign-and-place with Ole Miss or Auburn. The only times I recall a player that didn't qualify at UF going to another SEC school were because UF admissions wouldn't count a course taken or something like that.

[Lawdog88]

Well, let's just sit back and watch who tries to pick this kid up, and how.

If it is another SEC school, that will give us some information, unless no other SEC is interested. The schools formerly showing interest were: Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisville, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Miami (Fl), Notre Dame, Ohio State, South Florida.

[UFcody]

So exactly what are the differences?

I don't ever recall an athlete who couldn't qualify at UF being accepted at UGA or FSU. I know there were several that went to WVU or schools out of conference. And I recall several who became sign-and-place with Ole Miss or Auburn. The only times I recall a player that didn't qualify at UF going to another SEC school were because UF admissions wouldn't count a course taken or something like that.

You only have to go as far back as last year... Dante Phillips was committed to Florida couldn't get in and then went to Tennessee.

[palmbayed]

To get into UF as either an athlete or regular student you have to pass Alg. II. I don't know about A&M or MIssouri but UF and Vandy might be the only schools this applys to.

[RayGator]

It's my understanding that LB James Hearns has withdrawn his commitment to UF.

And FWIW it is now my understanding that LB James Hearns is a Kentucky commitment.

That is all. Carry on. :)

[StrangeGator]

To get into UF as either an athlete or regular student you have to pass Alg. II. I don't know about A&M or MIssouri but UF and Vandy might be the only schools this applys to.

UGA is very close to UF academically. They may pass us soon, or more accurately, we may drop below them. Their math requirements may not be as stringent as UF, but only because they're other flagship school has tougher math requirements than UF.

Texas A&M is probably UF's equal academically and likely has similar or even more stringent math requirements because of the technical orientation of the school.

Missouri is a fine school, but their admissions profile is not impressive. That's a school that might start snatching up some of the prospects who are borderline with academics. I'd still send my own kid there before I'd send them to Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, Miss State or Tennessee.