iPhone 4S

[StrangeGator]

5X upgrade in processor speed, now available for Sprint subscribers, "Siri" personal assistant with speech to text and speech command capabilities. Yawn. By now we should expect iPhones to cook and wash the dishes for us.

My contract is up late this month, so I might bite the bullet. Hope they're going to offer their speech to text capabilities for their computers. I could use that. It's probably a lot cheaper than Dragon Speak.

[Lutz]

This is what we wait for? The same 3.5" screen is a huge disappointment for me.

[helix139]

A friend of mine said it best: "Hey guys here are some features Android phones have had for a year now...our antenna works now, sorry!"

[Ceal8ter]

Oh I love the android lovers/ apple haters. Androids were a few years behind apple in getting out the SAME technology. I would hope that when it finally came out that they might add a few things to it.

As for apple, not a fanboy, the only apple product Ive ever owned is my Iphone. I will say, however, that it was probably one of the best purchases I've made and I have yet to try a phone that I enjoy more. Outside of using the same case, the hardware improvements on the 4S are actually quite substantial, as are the software innovations that Apple continues to integrate into their products. That being said, I will most likely pass on the 4s and wait for the Iphone 5 to be released next June.

As for android based phones, Ive tried a few and none have made an impression on me at all.

[AnthroMatt]

This is what we wait for? The same 3.5" screen is a huge disappointment for me.

I realize that I am probably in the minority on this, but I am glad the screen size is the same. I never watch movies or lengthy videos on my phone, so smaller size is no issue there. I used to have the Samsuck Epic on Sprint and the 4" screen was borderline too large. It made one-handed use of the phone a bit more difficult and it was not as confortable to hold for extended periods of time. The iPhone 4 fits perfectly in my hand.

[StrangeGator]

I think the reason the case stayed the same was to keep things simple on the supply chain side. They've sold 55,million year-to-date. No way they can fulfill demand if they do a complete makeover.

I'm impressed with the android. I just don't want one. I'm still not confident they can continue to deliver over time. They don't have the 10-12 year run that Apple has, nor the corporate culture so support a run like that. I don't know what they're going to do with Motorola and their culture. They can barely keep a two year winning streak going and that is a sad, paranoid workplace.

[MGBarrett]

Besides a larger screen, what other features do you wish the new iPhone had?

[demosthenes]

Two of my brothers have the iPhone and switching to either the Samsung Prime or HTC Vigor. From what I've seen I'm leaning toward the Prime.

[Gat0r]

I got my 4S on Friday and love it. Never got the 4 and went from 3GS to the 4S. Nothing is close to the iPhone. I know the droid people say all this stuff, but I've tried it... it isn't close...

[og8trz]

I have owned both Android and i-Phone and both have their strengths and weaknesses. Apple has teh advantage of having most everything works on their network.

The Android was better on voice activated web.

[Jupgator]

I have the 3gs and my contract is up, but just can't see going for the 4gs - just not enough usuable features to make a difference. The siri personal asst is cool, but the processor speed increase makes no diff to me because I don't play games on my phone. Also, the iphone 5.0 software was made avaliable over itunes yesterday and I downloaded it, so I have some of the new functionality like the photo editing, etc. on my 3gs. I think I'll wait for the 5.

[Gat0r]

I almost waited too Jupgator for all the same reasons. I had the 3GS too. But I went ahead and took the plunge. I'm glad I did. Everything is easier on this phone and the increased speed is unreal. Even the reception is far better than my GS was and I'm getting cell reception and 3G in places I did not on my 3GS.
In St. Aug, all cell reception is not that good. My wife has a blackberry on verizon. Since she's now seen what the 4S will do she's headed down to get one too..

[Jupgator]

I almost waited too Jupgator for all the same reasons. I had the 3GS too. But I went ahead and took the plunge. I'm glad I did. Everything is easier on this phone and the increased speed is unreal. Even the reception is far better than my GS was and I'm getting cell reception and 3G in places I did not on my 3GS.
In St. Aug, all cell reception is not that good. My wife has a blackberry on verizon. Since she's now seen what the 4S will do she's headed down to get one too..

Thanks for the info. Hummm....may have to reconsider.

[Lutz]

I currently do not have a smartphone. I am looking to get my first smartphone, but am looking to get something with a bigger sized screen than the 3.5" iPhone 4s. I, however, have lots of money already invested in iphone apps for my 32gb ipod Touch so I am kinda torn. I am leaning to the 4.52" Samsung Galaxy S2 or maybe even the soon-to-be released 4.65" Samsung Nexus Prime running the new Android Ice Cream Sandwich operating system.
Love the iPhone for the photo apps. Just wish the 4s had a larger screen.

[Jupgator]

The prob that I've heard about w the larger screens is the phone is too big.

[Lutz]

The prob that I've heard about w the larger screens is the phone is too big.

Bigger phones is what the market is demanding. So I guess larger screens is not a problem. Those with small hands may want to keep to the smaller screens.

[LeafUF]

Had the larger screen concern initially but that was quickly resolved by trying one. I prefer it in every way now. The phone fits in my hand well and works great as a phone and is much better at everything else because the extra screen space makes using apps and typing a better experience. Plus watching Netflix is pretty cool when stuck in an airport like I so often am.

[RayUF07]

Galaxy Nexus is where it's at.

[Sir_Gibby]

Galaxy Nexus is where it's at.

This. 11/21, supposedly.

My fanboy is reserved to having the best piece of tech available. For the longest while, that was the iPhone. Fast forward to the iPhone 4S release. The 4G networks have been out for two years and this phone still wants to run on the cramped 3G networks? I don't even live in a large town and the bandwidth is so constrained compared to when I first got it that it's really frustrating to use.

That, and the hardware on the Android phones have since surpassed what's being in Apple's new iteration.

[Gator_Tom66]

I have the 4S. Siri is quite impressive and still beta. The whole phone is basically now voice activated. It is a noticeably faster than the 4. The pics and video are better also. I am very happy with it.

[Gator_Tom66]

BTW - my kids and friends love to play with Siri.

[fastsix]

Bigger phones is what the market is demanding. So I guess larger screens is not a problem. Those with small hands may want to keep to the smaller screens.

My hands are so big I use an iPad as my phone. And we all know what that means...

...I have to carry my phone around in a backpack.

[Emmitto]

BTW - my kids and friends love to play with Siri.

Siri is a bad influence. Know-it-all with a sassy mouth. She needs a spanking.

I love her.

[Gat0r]

I have the 4S. Siri is quite impressive and still beta. The whole phone is basically now voice activated. It is a noticeably faster than the 4. The pics and video are better also. I am very happy with it.

Me too!! I had not upgraded since the 3GS. Before getting this one I checked out all the competition. The 4S is without doubt the best phone on the market right now.
The speed is unparalleled. Siri is an unreal feature. Nothing is close to this phone right now..

[rburnett]

My hands are so big I use an iPad as my phone. And we all know what that means...

...I have to carry my phone around in a backpack.

lol.. nice

[RayUF07]

Me too!! I had not upgraded since the 3GS. Before getting this one I checked out all the competition. The 4S is without doubt the best phone on the market right now.
The speed is unparalleled. Siri is an unreal feature. Nothing is close to this phone right now..

There are several Android phones much faster than the iPhone.

[Gatorreign]

I Haven't owned any apple products since 92. Been with Sprint forever so I always had an android. When the 4S came out with Sprint I had to try it, even without my girl Siri by my side the phone is all around smoother than any other phone. Now that Ive moved up I went ahead and bought an ipad2 a couple weeks ago.

[Gator_Tom66]

There are several Android phones much faster than the iPhone.

Much?

Either way, faster isn't always better. It is just faster.

[LeafUF]

Much?

Either way, faster isn't always better. It is just faster.

Well when you are responding to a post stating that the 4S has unparalleled speed I would say the response is pretty relevant. Wouldn't you?

Why is it so hard for Apple users to accept that Android technology is in some ways superior?

I love my Droid Bionic but I am not going to go around spouting that nothing is even close to it as if that is some fact. The market is full of good phones right now, the iphone is no longer on a pedestal by itself. Its just in the discussion with a lot of other great phones.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

What "faster" and "more powerful" give you is longevity with a device.

[Gator_Tom66]

Well when you are responding to a post stating that the 4S has unparalleled speed I would say the response is pretty relevant. Wouldn't you?

Why is it so hard for Apple users to accept that Android technology is in some ways superior?

I love my Droid Bionic but I am not going to go around spouting that nothing is even close to it as if that is some fact. The market is full of good phones right now, the iphone is no longer on a pedestal by itself. Its just in the discussion with a lot of other great phones.


I'm sorry Leaf

I should have been more clear. The speed isn't unparalleled. I should have been more specific. The hardware isn't what makes it a great phone. It was just a quick reply.

My biggest happiness with the 4S is the voice features and Siri especially. The previous iPhone, and droids have voice features, but Siri is different.

IMO, it is a game changer much like the first iPhone was. That phone changed the game and made the competition rise to compete.

IMHO - Siri is exactly like that. It is now out of the box and will only get better. Right now, it increased my cell phone abilities exponentially. Siri alone makes my new 4S better than my 4.

How many cell phones have you seen marketed to blind people?

[Ceal8ter]

Well when you are responding to a post stating that the 4S has unparalleled speed I would say the response is pretty relevant. Wouldn't you?

Why is it so hard for Apple users to accept that Android technology is in some ways superior?

I love my Droid Bionic but I am not going to go around spouting that nothing is even close to it as if that is some fact. The market is full of good phones right now, the iphone is no longer on a pedestal by itself. Its just in the discussion with a lot of other great phones.

I would be willing to bet that as IPhones spread to other carriers, IPhone sales will continue to outpace Android sales.

My g/f had an IPhone 4. She claimed she hated it so she got a Samsung Galaxy. A few months later she says she wishes she had her IPhone back.

I've tried both and prefer the IPhone. In fact I just switched to the 4s and I'm very happy with it. I suppose like anything else it's just a matter of preference. It just seems in my personal experience that people that have had both tend to return to the IPhone.

[Gator_Tom66]

Leaf,

I agree there are plenty of great smart phones out there. It is just that apple seems to be the one pushing the innovations.

Siri is a big deal.

Yesterday my son asked her to solve an algebra equation. She did.

[LeafUF]

I would be willing to bet that as IPhones spread to other carriers, IPhone sales will continue to outpace Android sales.

My g/f had an IPhone 4. She claimed she hated it so she got a Samsung Galaxy. A few months later she says she wishes she had her IPhone back.

I've tried both and prefer the IPhone. In fact I just switched to the 4s and I'm very happy with it. I suppose like anything else it's just a matter of preference. It just seems in my personal experience that people that have had both tend to return to the IPhone.

IPhone does not outpace Android. Android OS is the market leader in the smart phone market and it was increasing each quarter. Iphone is the most popular device but it is not the market leader for operating system. Android will continue to hold down the market from a platform perspective but none of the variety of android phones will be able to overtake the iphone because quite simply there are too many options.

I agree that it comes down to preference and it can be specific to the exact phone you use when you jump to an Android. The earlier Androids had a lot of flaws but they have consistently gotten better and I think now from a hardware perspective they are definitely leading the way.

I also think the fact the Android platform is being used by many different companies offers a diversity that the Iphone does not at the moment seem to care about.

Siri may in fact be a game changer and if so I imagine we will see similar technology finding its way to more devices in the coming year.

And as you mention its all about personal perspective when discussing these things. I work in IT and Androids are more common among my coworkers at about 4-1. I would say Blackberry is just about as common as Iphones amongst my peers. Granted its just one small view of the smartphone market but its just as valid as anyone elses.

[LeafUF]

Leaf,

I agree there are plenty of great smart phones out there. It is just that apple seems to be the one pushing the innovations.

Siri is a big deal.

Yesterday my son asked her to solve an algebra equation. She did.

I am not denying this nor would I. I have said on other threads when discussing Google that they would be nowhere without other companies leading the way.

I just get tired of this simplistic view of Apple being the unquestioned best when that is simply not true.

Siri sounds a lot cooler than I thought when I first heard of it. I dont know if it is as big of a leap forward as you make it out to be but I have not used it so that is just a guess. It sounds like a huge step forward in voice activation but the rest doesnt really sound like anything that a phone cant already do.

[Gator_Tom66]

IPhone does not outpace Android. Android OS is the market leader in the smart phone market and it was increasing each quarter. Iphone is the most popular device but it is not the market leader for operating system. Android will continue to hold down the market from a platform perspective but none of the variety of android phones will be able to overtake the iphone because quite simply there are too many options.

I agree that it comes down to preference and it can be specific to the exact phone you use when you jump to an Android. The earlier Androids had a lot of flaws but they have consistently gotten better and I think now from a hardware perspective they are definitely leading the way.

I also think the fact the Android platform is being used by many different companies offers a diversity that the Iphone does not at the moment seem to care about.

Siri may in fact be a game changer and if so I imagine we will see similar technology finding its way to more devices in the coming year.

And as you mention its all about personal perspective when discussing these things. I work in IT and Androids are more common among my coworkers at about 4-1. I would say Blackberry is just about as common as Iphones amongst my peers. Granted its just one small view of the smartphone market but its just as valid as anyone elses.

The android being on many carriers is a plus and a minus. Each OS is slightly different depending in the manufacturer of the phone.

The iPhone on only one manufacturer make them consistent.

Now that apple introduced Siri, android will have to raise their game. And they will.

When choosing a cell phone a person today can choose from a wide variety of great cell phones. We agree about that.

BTW - I'm in IT also and see different ratios than you do. Guys that like to tinker more seem to like the droids, or get an iPhone and jail break it.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Siri's tech has existed on Android since Froyo, I still don't understand what the hoopla is. If I do a voice search for a math problem I get the result and have for many moons.

It was ultimately not even a big selling point for Android but it was the main event at the the last Apple event (like copy and paste was). Excellent marketing, I suppose.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Now that apple introduced Siri, android will have to raise their game.

They've had a custom voice command / query system since Android 2.2, which is now 4 official major releases old.

[Gator_Tom66]

They've had a custom voice command / query system since Android 2.2, which is now 4 official major releases old.

It's more than that.

Push one button, talk naturally to an assistant.

People that can't read can easily use the 4S. If the droid can do that, then yeah, they should fire the marketing team, they can't sell cool drinks at the beach.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

It's more than that.

Push one button, talk naturally to an assistant.

So is Android. "Send email to" and dictate the email. "Navigate to" and it brings up GPS directions (Siri doesn't do this). "Go to Wikipedia" (which goes directly to the site, Siri searches). Like Siri, if you ask something arcane, it searches.

People that can't read can easily use the 4S. If the droid can do that, then yeah, they should fire the marketing team, they can't sell cool drinks at the beach.

Yeah, sorry, it's the same thing. Siri's advantage is natural language processing that let's you use less formal structured speech. At the heart of it, they do the exact same thing, though. Nothing revolutionary about it.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Oh, forgot to mention:

Push one button

You don't even have to push a button in Android. :laugh:

[Gator_Tom66]

So is Android. "Send email to" and dictate the email. "Navigate to" and it brings up GPS directions (Siri doesn't do this). "Go to Wikipedia" (which goes directly to the site, Siri searches). Like Siri, if you ask something arcane, it searches.

Yeah, sorry, it's the same thing. Siri's advantage is natural language processing that let's you use less formal structured speech. At the heart of it, they do the exact same thing, though. Nothing revolutionary about it.

Natural language processing is easier for people to use. Voice commands were on the other iphones also Siri works substantially better

I guess android needs to fire their marketing departments. You might want to let them know about the $ they are losing.

[Gator_Tom66]

Oh, forgot to mention:

You don't even have to push a button in Android. :laugh:

You don't have to push a button on the iPhone either. What was that you were laughing about?

[Gat0r]

Go get a 4S and go get a new android hold one in one and and one in the other. Sorry, it's not close. You droid users can argue you want but just try it. Got some catchin' up to do..

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Go get a 4S and go get a new android hold one in one and and one in the other. Sorry, it's not close. You droid users can argue you want but just try it. Got some catchin' up to do..

I lead a team of iphone and android developers. We have at least 20 Android phones and plenty of 3Gs and 4s around, too.

So basically I'm around these devices every day.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense. You might want to elaborate on what they need to "catch up" on.

You don't have to push a button on the iPhone either. What was that you were laughing about?

Yes, but you have to have the phone in your hand/presence. Android activates a voice command from a voice command, which has been particularly helpful for writing emails while working on something else and when getting driving navigation.

So that's what I was laughing about.

Natural language processing is easier for people to use. Voice commands were on the other iphones also Siri works substantially better

Siri definitely works better than the older, limited iphone voice commands, but then those were considered worst of breed back then, so no real accomplishment.

As to NLP, I think that's a fairly trivial matter and it's worth noting that Android still does NLP on most of your commands anyway. If you're blind there's very little difference between saying "Call Jonathan" and "Hey, please call Jonathan" in terms of convenience.

I guess android needs to fire their marketing departments. You might want to let them know about the $ they are losing.

Well first, Android doesn't lose money because Android does not make money, per se. This is a large part of the cultural difference between Android and IOS and the reason great, robust features like Google Voice Commands usually surface with little fanfare while WWDC spends 20 minutes on revolutionary copy-and-paste functions and Siri, something that has existed for a long time.

Most people who are only exposed to iPhones don't really get a full picture of what Android is or what it does because there are no huge press events. Which is why you were talking about the revolutionary Siri and how Android had to "catch up."

And I love the iPhone - I personally have one. It's a solid and beautiful tool, and iOS is very polished. But I switched to Android full-time a few years ago and haven't looked back. There's only one thing that iPhones still have a major advantage in and that's music library and playback. Which is becoming an increasingly unimportant item. Hell I just use Spotify now anyway.

[Gator_Tom66]

I lead a team of iphone and android developers. We have at least 20 Android phones and plenty of 3Gs and 4s around, too.

So basically I'm around these devices every day.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense. You might want to elaborate on what they need to "catch up" on.



Yes, but you have to have the phone in your hand/presence. Android activates a voice command from a voice command, which has been particularly helpful for writing emails while working on something else and when getting driving navigation.

So that's what I was laughing about.



Siri definitely works better than the older, limited iphone voice commands, but then those were considered worst of breed back then, so no real accomplishment.

As to NLP, I think that's a fairly trivial matter and it's worth noting that Android still does NLP on most of your commands anyway. If you're blind there's very little difference between saying "Call Jonathan" and "Hey, please call Jonathan" in terms of convenience.



Well first, Android doesn't lose money because Android does not make money, per se. This is a large part of the cultural difference between Android and IOS and the reason great, robust features like Google Voice Commands usually surface with little fanfare while WWDC spends 20 minutes on revolutionary copy-and-paste functions and Siri, something that has existed for a long time.

Most people who are only exposed to iPhones don't really get a full picture of what Android is or what it does because there are no huge press events. Which is why you were talking about the revolutionary Siri and how Android had to "catch up."

And I love the iPhone - I personally have one. It's a solid and beautiful tool, and iOS is very polished. But I switched to Android full-time a few years ago and haven't looked back. There's only one thing that iPhones still have a major advantage in and that's music library and playback. Which is becoming an increasingly unimportant item. Hell I just use Spotify now anyway.


I am around and touch Androids daily. There are fine phones. But if there wasn't an iPhone, there would be no Android. There is no best phone, just as there is no greatest drummer. There are phones that are better depending on personal preference and the environment they operate in. Androids are not encrypted, iPhones are, that is important in the corporate world and at UF. I have over 20 GB's of music, so the library is important to me.

I'm glad you like your phone, I'm real happy with mine also. Time will tell if Siri is a game changer, as I think it is. I know someone that cannot read very well. They love the 4S. If Android has a similair feature that works just as well, then their marketing department lost his sale and money. So you are wrong about them not losing anything, they are called customers. We can say Android is losing, or the manufactures of phones that use Android are losing, but they lost a customer to Apple by having crappy marketing departments. Or, the features you describe just don't work as well. Either way, they need to catch up. I'm sure they will.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

But if there wasn't an iPhone, there would be no Android.

This is sort of a weird viewpoint to have. Both have borrowed from each other. Without Blackberry, there'd be no iPhone, but I don't see how that's relevant.

Androids are not encrypted, iPhones are,

Not sure what you mean about iPhones being encrypted. Perhaps they encrypt their data, emails, etc. So does Android. I guess another point

that is important in the corporate world and at UF. I have over 20 GB's of music, so the library is important to me.

And still works in Android.

I'm glad you like your phone[/quote]

Like I said, I own both.

I'm real happy with mine also. Time will tell if Siri is a game changer, as I think it is. I know someone that cannot read very well. They love the 4S. If Android has a similair feature that works just as well, then their marketing department lost his sale and money. So you are wrong about them not losing anything, they are called customers. We can say Android is losing, or the manufactures of phones that use Android are losing, but they lost a customer to Apple by having crappy marketing departments. Or, the features you describe just don't work as well. Either way, they need to catch up. I'm sure they will.

Still with the notion of "catching up." :no: iPhone just caught up to Android in this and many other regards.

[GatorInSC]

Im getting a new phone sometime in the next few weeks and im torn. I have a android phone right now but im bored with android and have always wanted to try i iphone. Also most of my family has apple products so they use facetime to talk. Think i might give the 4s a try.

[LeafUF]

Yes, but you have to have the phone in your hand/presence. Android activates a voice command from a voice command, which has been particularly helpful for writing emails while working on something else and when getting driving navigation.

So that's what I was laughing about.

How do you do this. I only know how to use the voice commands by opening voice command first.

Also have you seen the new app that will react to hand gestures without touching the phone? I guess it uses the camera kind of like Kinect does.

[Gator_Tom66]

This is sort of a weird viewpoint to have. Both have borrowed from each other. Without Blackberry, there'd be no iPhone, but I don't see how that's relevant.

Not sure what you mean about iPhones being encrypted. Perhaps they encrypt their data, emails, etc. So does Android. I guess another point

And still works in Android.

I'm glad you like your phone

I couldn't read all your post. The format was off.

The data to and from the iPhone is encrypted. Currently that is not the case for androids.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I couldn't read all your post. The format was off.

The data to and from the iPhone is encrypted. Currently that is not the case for androids.

Actually, it is and has been since Gingerbread. Rather, it's a setting, not the default.

[LeafUF]

I couldn't read all your post. The format was off.

The data to and from the iPhone is encrypted. Currently that is not the case for androids.

I don't know if this is a true or if it is its not a problem as I know my companies work email can be sent to both android and iPhones using the same program. And I imagine that would not be the case if there were a security risk.

[Gat0r]

For those of you looking into new phones. I went though this about a month ago and what I found agreed with this evaluation. Just go check for yourself without taking advice from anyone.

http://cell-phones.toptenreviews.com/smartphones/

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I probably should have replied to that thread a while back, but there is an option for network encryption and full disk encryption in Android starting at v 3.1. I don't think the iphone has full disk encryption yet.

[Gator_Tom66]

I probably should have replied to that thread a while back, but there is an option for network encryption and full disk encryption in Android starting at v 3.1. I don't think the iphone has full disk encryption yet.


That is not my understanding wrt androids. Iphones are encrypted by default. Do you have a link showing androids are encrypted? I'd be interested to read it if you do.

Encryption
iPhone and iPad offer hardware-based encryption. Hardware encryption uses 256-bit AES to protect all data on the device. Encryption is always enabled, and cannot be disabled by users.
Additionally, data backed up in iTunes to a user’s computer can be encrypted.
This can be enabled by the user, or enforced by using device restriction settings in Configuration Profiles.
iOS supports S/MIME in mail, enabling iPhone and iPad to view and send encrypted email messages. Restrictions can also be used to prevent mail messages from being moved between accounts or messages received in one account being forwarded
from another. (http://images.apple.com/iphone/business/docs/iOS_Security.pdf)

[Gator_Tom66]

I don't know if this is a true or if it is its not a problem as I know my companies work email can be sent to both android and iPhones using the same program. And I imagine that would not be the case if there were a security risk.


UF allows e-mail to be sent to both also, for now. The ball has already started rolling to make it mandatory for all mobile devices that connect to UF to have full encryption capabilities. The literature I have seen indicates the iPhone currently meets this standard and Androids don't. If that is the case, I am sure Android will implement that change. Maybe OBOB will provide a link to it. I only see apps that can encrypt Androids.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Yes, full disk encryption is available starting with 3.1 (current version is 4.0).

Like the iphone it cannot be disabled once activated, but it is also not on by default.

S/Mime is not supported by default in Gmail, but in the mail app.

[Gator_Tom66]

Yes, full disk encryption is available starting with 3.1 (current version is 4.0).

Like the iphone it cannot be disabled once activated, but it is also not on by default.

S/Mime is not supported by default in Gmail, but in the mail app.

Do you have a link? I can't find anything to support it. It isn't a big deal if you don't.

It looks to me like it is hardware dependent. Some driods can and some can't.

http://infosec.ufl.edu/itworkers/pgp/mobdeviceencrypt.shtml

[orangeblueorangeblue]

It's not hardware dependent. I'm staring at the option right now on my phone and tablet (have activated it on neither).

First introduced in 2.3.7 and 3.1 for tablets.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

And prior to 2.3.7 for phones there was a free app that handled it. I can't vouch for that having worked with old Android phones.

[Gator_Tom66]

Then why do some droids have it and other don't? The only difference is hardware.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

The only difference is not hardware.

Not every Android phone is on 2.3.6+.

[Gator_Tom66]

The only difference is not hardware.

Not every Android phone is on 2.3.6+.

Then they need to catch up. :grin:

[orangeblueorangeblue]

That's like saying the iPhone needs to catch up because the 3GS doesn't support Siri.

[Gator_Tom66]

That's like saying the iPhone needs to catch up because the 3GS doesn't support Siri.


Why, is it only older styles that are left back? Encryption is a bit different than Siri. Data protection and all that.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Yes, it's only old phones that don't have this option. And most of them can still get it if users are willing to upgrade.

[helix139]

Yes, it's only old phones that don't have this option. And most of them can still get it if users are willing to upgrade.

And nearly all of them that don't offer OTA Gingerbread updates that are rootable and have unlockable bootloaders (aka any non-moto device) can get them.